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Another Attempt to Vanish My Posts About Kelly Hyman v. Alex Daoud—Seemingly Backed by Court Order
[UPDATE 10/28/2024 3:57 pm: The business day after the motion below was filed, the court vacated the Mar. 13 order in relevant part.]
Kelly Hyman is a lawyer, frequent FoxNews.com contributor, and a media and Twitter commentator in this year's presidential campaign. She had also (in Hyman v. Daoud) sued her father, a disgraced former Miami Beach mayor, over a real estate transaction. And, for several years, there have been attempts to vanish from the Internet various materials related to that dispute—including attempts to vanish news stories about it, including my own articles.
On Oct. 17, I got an e-mail related to the latest such attempt:
[Subject] Request for Link Removal as per Court Order
Hello,
I am reaching out to request the removal of the following link from your website, as per a court order:
- https://reason.com/volokh/2020/11/24/an-odd-response-from-one-of-the-lawyers-in-the-kelly-hyman-v-alex-daoud-case/
- https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/14/attempt-to-vanish-my-article-about-attempt-to-vanish-my-article-about-attempt-to-vanish-other-articles/
I've attached a copy of the court order for you to look over. Please proceed with removing the links at your earliest convenience.
Thank you for taking the time to look into this matter.
Sincerely,
Angelina
The court order, issued in the initial Hyman v. Daoud case in March of this year, specifically states, "This order requires the taking down or deletion or deindexing the following links on the internet:," followed by several links, including those on sites run by (among others) CBS News, Miami Herald, the Daily Mail, and me.
It orders "any internet-related services, internet service provider, host provider and/or search engine" to remove or deindex those items, and "remove and cause to be removed from any Site … all … [materials] related to directly or indirectly to this lawsuit, and/or Kelly Hyman [or certain relatives] and/or any website or posting defamatory, slander, or any statements against" those people.
And it states, "This order along with any court documents related directly or indirectly to this matter is prohibited from being posted including, but not limited to any website, and/or social media and/or internet."
I think this order is unjustified, and certainly shouldn't be a basis for the removal of any my posts. Fortunately, Marc Randazza and Kylie Werk of the Randazza Legal Group, PLLC agreed to represent me pro bono in challenging the order. In particular, we argue, among other things (see Hyman v. Daoud, No. 2012-044972-CA-01, Doc. No. 48 (Fla. Cir. Ct. Miami-Dade County Oct. 25, 2024):
[1.] Under Florida law, the order cannot bind me (even though it mentions some of my posts). Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.610(c) provides that injunctions are "binding on the parties to the action, their officers, agents, servants, employees, and attorneys and on those persons in active concert or participation with them." But I'm entirely unconnected to Hyman or Daoud, except to the extent that I've written about their litigation. See, e.g., Spagnuolo v. Ins. Office of Am., Inc. (Fla. 5th DCA 2023) ("to the extent that" the injunction "purports to enjoin anybody other than" the parties, it must be "quashed because the trial court has no jurisdiction over non-parties"); Two Islands Dev. Corp. v. Clarke (Fla. 3d DCA 2015) ("'A court is without jurisdiction to issue an injunction which would interfere with the rights of those who are not parties to the action. An injunction can lie only when its scope is limited in effect to the rights of parties before the court.'").
[2.] Applying the order to me would in any event violate the Due Process Clause. Nonparties to a lawsuit, who received "neither notice of, nor sufficient representation in" the proceedings, cannot be bound by the court's decision "as a matter of federal due process." Richards v. Jefferson County, Ala. (1996). "Due process requires notice reasonably calculated, under all the circumstances, to apprise interested parties of the pendency of the action and afford them an opportunity to present their objections." United Student Aid Funds, Inc. v. Espinosa (2010). Florida courts naturally agree: Even when "consistent with Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.610(c), an injunction may bind a non-party," "even a non-party with notice of the injunction cannot be bound without having an opportunity to be heard." Midnight Express Power Boats, Inc. v. Aguilar (Fla. 3d DCA 2024).
[3.] The Order, if applied to my posts, would violate the First Amendment. Those posts consist entirely of statements from public records, other accurate factual statements, and opinion. They don't fit within any First Amendment exception, such as for true threats of violence, or for libel, and they haven't been found to so fit. A court thus may not order that I remove them. (I expect the same is true about many of the other items listed in the order, including those from mainstream media sources; but I suspect I only have standing to challenge the inclusion of my own posts.)
[4.] The Order is also unconstitutional to the extent it prohibits "[t]his order along with any court documents related directly or indirectly to this matter" from being published on "any website, and/or social media and/or internet." The republication of judicial documents is itself protected under the First Amendment. See, e.g., Florida Star v. B.J.F. (1989); Cox Broad. Corp. v. Cohn (1975).
There's more going on in the motion as well, but these are some of the core points. I hope the court will turn to this promptly. Many thanks to Marc Randazza and Kylie Werk for representing me on this.
I should note that I'm not intending to remove the posts mentioned in the order, because I believe the order doesn't bind me under Florida law (as well as being transparently invalid under the First Amendment and the Due Process Clause in the event it is read as purporting to bind me).
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Professor Volokh...hope you win your case.
A TRO can bind a party without prior notice or opportunity to be heard, but a nonparty is entitled to the procedural protections associated with an injunction. Is that right?
Issuance of an ex parte prior restraint of speech without notice implicates First Amendment concerns:
Carroll v. Princess Anne, 393 U.S. 175, 180 (1968). The issue does not become moot after the TRO expires. Id., at 179.
A TRO may issue without notice but it is not effective until properly served on the party enjoined, and TROs typically have a short life, expiring automatically in 7 to 14 days.
"Temporary" being the operative word?
Although as we recently discussed here in relation to one of Prof. Volokh's crusades, California's can weirdly last significantly longer than that.
Eugene Volokh and Reason? If she thought the letter would intimidate anyone she's screwing with the wrong people.
It’s astonishing to me that someone allegedly educated enough to be a lawyer is still unaware of the Streisand Effect.
You may overestimate the intelligence (or, perhaps, integrity) of those "educated enough to be a lawyer."
Much more concerning is the lack of intelligence of the judge in this case.
Yes, now that my attention has been engaged, I feel an itch that must be scratched to go find out what is so embarrassing or otherwise vexatious to Ms. Hyman that she is going to such lengths to vanish this down the memory hole. I do hope whatever it is, it is sufficiently salacious as to warrant the expenditure of my time needed to search it out. (EV may be occupied with the legal considerations, but out of consideration for those of us who most interested in what are hopefully dirty details, he might have pointed to where we will find them least tangled up in the procedural stuff.)
BTW, is this how so-called "reputation management" companies generally work? Do they have a bag of other tricks to deploy on behalf of clients?
It looks like the court actually held a hearing on the motion to correct, so it's possible it's not as rubber-stampy as it appears.
The court may actually think it has the authority to compel the removal of the stuff.
You know, it's one thing to have authority, and another thing to have power effective to vindicate your authority.
Maybe EV, and a lot of commenters on this blog, could benefit by a review of the West Wing Lemon Lyman episode.
Maybe I missed it in prior posts, but what is it about this case that warrants such an overreaching order suppressing news reporting about it.
I'd love to see the responses of CBS News, Miami Herald, the Daily Mail.
Does the Florida court even have jurisdiction over you or this website?
I assume you've confirmed that the order is genuine and not a forgery, as we've seen at times in the past?
I have some collateral questions.
Who is "Angelina?" Just curious.
Further, aren't there ethical issues with Kelly Hyman knowingly receiving an improper injunction against a third party?
Given the repeated attempts, and the shady maneuverings, I have issues with someone abusing the court system that is an officer of the court.
I think Angelina works at a "reputation management company," Blue Ocean Global Tech.
I checked the docket (publicly available).
The court granted your motion to vacate. YAY! Just happened.
That said ... so many questions. How can you file a motion to correct a clerical error in a Final Order to include things AFTER the final order - that's not a cleric error.
Also also, this was a settlement- it should have been enforcing the settlement, which would have made it obvious you couldn't do it against third parties.
I have serious issues with how this was done, and I am happy the judge immediately corrected it.
"That said … so many questions. How can you file a motion to correct a clerical error in a Final Order to include things AFTER the final order..."
You write it and you send it to the court.
The motion included one possible explanation for such a filing.