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Wisconsin S. Ct. Overturns Injunction Restricting Abortion Protester's Speech to Abortion Clinic Employee
From the majority opinion in Kindschy v. Aish, written by Justice Rebecca Dallet:
The circuit court heard two days of testimony, and made the following findings of fact:
- On October 8, 2019, as Kindschy and a co-worker were leaving the clinic, Aish stated that Kindschy had time to repent, that "it won't be long before bad things will happen to you and your family," and that "you could get killed by a drunk driver tonight."
- On February 18, 2020, Aish said to Kindschy, "I pray you guys make it home safely for another day or two until you turn to Christ and repent. You still have time."
- On February 25, 2020, Aish again indicated that Kindschy would be lucky if she made it home safely.
- The statements made by Aish on these dates were specifically directed toward Kindschy.
… [T]he circuit court issued a four-year injunction which prohibited Aish from speaking to Kindschy, or going to her residence "or any other premises temporarily occupied by [Kindschy]."
The majority concluded that "even if Aish's statements were true threats—an issue we do not decide—the harassment injunction still violates the First Amendment because the circuit court did not make the necessary finding that Aish 'consciously disregarded a substantial risk that his communications would be viewed as threatening violence,'" the standard required by Counterman v. Colorado. And the majority concluded the injunction couldn't be justified under strict scrutiny:
Kindschy claims several state interests are served by the injunction, including protecting her right to privacy, her right to free passage in going to and from work, and her right to be free from the fear of death or bodily harm. She further maintains that the injunction is narrowly tailored and burdens no more speech than is necessary because Aish is free to protest anywhere except locations she temporarily occupies.
Strict scrutiny is a high bar, and the injunction at issue here cannot clear it. Even if the interests Kindschy identified are compelling, an injunction still must be narrowly
tailored to protect those interests.Here, the injunction orders Aish to avoid any location Kindschy might be, effectively prohibiting Aish from speaking not just to Kindschy, but to others at the clinic or anywhere else that she might be. In doing so, the injunction burdens significantly more speech than is necessary to protect individual privacy, freedom of movement to and from work, and freedom from fear of death. Therefore, it cannot survive strict scrutiny.
Justice Rebecca Grassl Bradley concurred in the judgment, and was joined by Chief Justice Annette Kingsland Ziegler; the concurrence argued that Aish's statements were not true threats, and thus wouldn't have punishable regardless of Aish's mental state. An excerpt (the opinion is quite long):
More importantly, none of the three statements suggested Aish or a co-conspirator would be the one to cause any harm to Kindschy. At most, the statements suggested unaffiliated third parties could cause Kindschy harm, like a "drunk driver." When Aish specified what kind of harm might befall Kindschy, it was a harm he would be extremely unlikely to cause and not something he would intend. If a statement does not expressly or implicitly suggest the speaker or coconspirator intends to commit the violence, the statement cannot be viewed as a true threat.
"[T]he statement, 'If you smoke cigarettes you will die of lung cancer,' is protected, even though its purpose is to scare you into quitting smoking. So is, 'If you mess around with Tom's girlfriend, he'll break your legs,' unless the speaker is sent by Tom." People who believe employees of abortion providers "are sinners who are going to be struck down by the hand of God should be able to voice their beliefs. The line is crossed, however, when the speaker suggests that he or his associates will help God by taking action down on Earth." Jennifer E. Rothman, Freedom of Speech and True Threats, 25 Harv. J.L. & Pub. Pol'y 283, 346 (2001). On their face, Aish's statements did not cross that line.
The concurrence goes on at some length to explain its reasoning, as does the majority; you can read the full opinions here.
Aish is represented by Joan M. Mannix (Thomas More Society) and Dudley A. Williams (Buting, Williams & Stilling S.C.).
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The Court seems to have come to the correct legal conclusion. Unfortunately, it’s the kind of situation in which a restraining order sought to prevent an alleged domestic abuser from harassing a spouse is correctly denied according to the law. The alleged abuser subsequently returns with a gun (which nobody knew he owned) and murders the spouse. The law is scrupulously observed but does not protect the actual person who fears for her life.
Why can't the Court add to its opinion a statement suggesting strongly that Aisch shape the fuck up and choose his words more carefully?
Because the court is not supposed to tell a person who's only doing legal activity to shape up. And I wouldn't want to live in the society where courts could do that.
Since God would do the killing, is it a true threat, or just truth? God may threaten, and kill, but there’s nothing the court could do about it. Why couldn't mortals discuss this?
"Nice business you have there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it." Stereotypical threat from a gangster, or just a strong pitch from a legitimate insurance salesman? The latter should steer clear of that sort of thing because people will react to it as if it's the former. Religious protesters who murder abortion clinic workers have perhaps put what this guy said similarly beyond the pale.
And surely Dr. Ed 2 will soon to tell us how the clinic should just have cleared out those protesters with a snowplow; Wisconsin is bound to have a few of those.
The abortion clinic is in the middle of an interstate highway?
I don't recall that Dr. Ed 2 fantasy murders were limited to protests on an interstate highway.
Meanwhile, we have Bernie ("D&C") Sanders and Lizzy ("Tomahawk Chop") Warren here in the Badger state stumping for abortion now, abortion tomorrow, and abortion forever! No number of aborted black babies is too high for these geriatric East coast lefties who demand their tribute in piles of fetus.
Why do these types always gotta make it so weird?
I find it quite ironic that the most strident opponents of abortion rights claim to be serving God. After all, if the Old Testament is believed, Yahweh is a major league baby killer.
He put a targeted hit on Bathsheba's firstborn, causing the poor infant to suffer for a week before dying. The Great Flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Tenth Plague did not exempt the babies from the carnage.
Yahweh and his Chosen People were also huge fans of genocide, including the mass slaughter of infants and children. All quotations here are from the original Revised Standard Version.
"However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you." Deuteronomy 20:16-17.
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD. This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ” I Samuel 15:1-3 (emphasis added)
"Sama'ria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open." Hosea 13:16 (emphasis added)
"Then they utterly destroyed all in the city [of Jericho,] both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and asses, with the edge of the sword." Joshua 6:21
"And the LORD said to me, 'Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land over to you; begin to take possession, that you may occupy his land.' Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Jahaz. And the LORD our God gave him over to us; and we defeated him and his sons and all his people. And we captured all his cities at that time and utterly destroyed every city, men, women, and children; we left none remaining[.]" Deuteronomy 2:31-34
"So the LORD our God gave into our hand Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people; and we smote him until no survivor was left to him. And we took all his cities at that time--there was not a city which we did not take from them--sixty cities, the whole region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates, and bars, besides very many unwalled villages. And we utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon the king of Heshbon, destroying every city, men, women, and children." Deuteronomy 3:3-6
"And Joshua took Makke'dah on that day, and smote it and its king with the edge of the sword; he utterly destroyed every person in it, he left none remaining; and he did to the king of Makke'dah as he had done to the king of Jericho. Then Joshua passed on from Makke'dah, and all Israel with him, to Libnah, and fought against Libnah; and the LORD gave it also and its king into the hand of Israel; and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and every person in it; he left none remaining in it; and he did to its king as he had done to the king of Jericho. And Joshua passed on from Libnah, and all Israel with him, to Lachish, and laid siege to it, and assaulted it: and the LORD gave Lachish into the hand of Israel, and he took it on the second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and every person in it, as he had done to Libnah. Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he left none remaining. And Joshua passed on with all Israel from Lachish to Eglon; and they laid siege to it, and assaulted it; and they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword; and every person in it he utterly destroyed that day, as he had done to Lachish. Then Joshua went up with all Israel from Eglon to Hebron; and they assaulted it, and took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and its king and its towns, and every person in it; he left none remaining, as he had done to Eglon, and utterly destroyed it with every person in it. Then Joshua, with all Israel, turned back to Debir and assaulted it, and he took it with its king and all its towns; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed every person in it; he left none remaining; as he had done to Hebron and to Libnah and its king, so he did to Debir and to its king. So Joshua defeated the whole land, the hill country and the Negeb and the lowland and the slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:28-40
One of the main themes of the novel The Klansman, the source of the movie The Birth of a Nation, was that the “Negro equality” people were complete and total hypocrites who didn’t actually practice anything like what they preached, and were only pitching this bullshit on the gullible for personal advancement and to gain political power.
Does that really totally discredit the message? If you’re right that it does for opposition to abortion, why isn’t the Klu Klx Klan right that it does the same for opposition to slavery and segregation?
The ad-hominem approach has been tried many times before in this country. There is of course some truth to all of this. Our country is filled with hypocrites who are joining the party to get an office or showing up at the protest to be more attractive to babes. It’s always been that way. Given any issue at all, any position on the issue at all, plenty of its supporters are like that. It’s just the way Americans seem to be.
Also, given the number of people who die from disease, disasters, and “Acts of God,” not to mention spontaneous abortions, I don’t think any religious person would question that God is a major baby killer.
But think for a minute about the consequences of your argument. By the same logic, God is also a major adult murderer. Indeed, we’re all mortal, we’re all going to be killed sooner or later. Since death is a universal condition, the religious person who regards God as responsible for what goes on in the world has to accept that God is a umiveral murderer.
Does it follow that religious people who oppose murder among adults are rediculous hypocrites? Your logic would say they are.
Time and again, rhetoric aimed at baiting the enemy turns difficult paradoxes into facile, puerile caricatures.
Boorish, superstitious, obsolete, worthless assholes have rights, too.
Until they are replaced by better Americans.
Costco will not replace us.
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The Wisconsin court got the First Amendment analysis right. The injunction was overbroad and should not have been issued.
That having been said, I remain puzzled that folks who protest outside of family planning clinics think that haranguing clinic personnel is in any manner persuasive.
By facilitating family planning and distributing contraceptives, Planned Parenthood likely has prevented more abortions than all the "sidewalk counselors" in human history combined. If preventing abortions is the objective, the blastocystophiles should heartily give thanks for Planned Parenthood.
Is the traditional street preacher message - the much caricatured “Repent! The end is near!” - a true threat?
I think context is essential. When the clinic workers saw the street peacher, they thought terrorist, not street preacher. And, from their point of view, this could be understandable.
But it is the speaker’s intent, not merely the listener’s perception, that determines whether something is a true threat or not. If Aish were involved in some sort of plan of violence against clinic workers, the words would take on a different meaning. But in the absence of any such involvement, I think the law has to assume he is speaking as a traditional street preacher. The fact that his listeners find his words uncomfortable do not make them threats in any sense that the First Amendment permits an American civil court to address.
This is why partisan zealots can make poor judges. You have to be able to consider things from the point of view of your political opponents and see how they perceive things.
The clinic workers’ point of view is understandable in light of how they would perceive vocal and confrontational abortion opponents, so I don’t think this case is frivolous, as some people have suggested. (The fact that they won in the lower court establishes this in any event). But the street preacher, as an individual, has to be considered on his own personal merits and motives, independently of the plaintiffs’ or the judge’s beliefs about what “his sort of people” might do. Absent any evidence the street preacher is personally involved in violence, his references to possible Divine vengeance can’t be treated as threats.