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Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Against Universal Studios Based on Employee's Use of "OK" Gesture
From an order by Judge John Kralik of the L.A. Superior Court in McGee v. Universal City Studios, LLC, decided April 30 but just posted on Westlaw:
Plaintiffs … allege that they were at Defendant Universal City Studios, LLC's theme park Universal Studios Hollywood. They allege that on July 18, 2021, Defendant "Beetlejuice Doe," an employee of Defendant Universal City Studios, LLC, acting in the course and scope of employment, was dressed as the fictional Beetlejuice character from the 1988 film and was greeting visitors and posing for photographs. Plaintiffs allege that they stopped to take a picture with Defendant Beetlejuice Doe. Marisol McGee (a Latin-American woman) posed with Defendant Beetlejuice Doe, while John McGee (an African-American man) took the photo and Dylan McGee (a mixed-race minor boy) watched. When taking the picture, they allege that Defendant Beetlejuice Doe displayed a racist, offensive "White Power" hand gesture.
The Complaint alleges the gesture was this (known to most of us, when the lines and words are absent, as the "OK" gesture):
Plaintiff sued for, among other things, a violation of California's law banning various kinds of discrimination in public accommodation (the Unruh Act), but the court granted Universal's motion to dismiss:
… Plaintiffs allege that Defendants' perception of Plaintiffs' race, ethnicity, color, ancestry, and/or national origin was a substantial motivating reason for Defendants' conduct and that Defendants' acts/omissions were the legal cause of Plaintiffs' damages…. [They] allege that the hand gesture is a symbol for "White Power" and provide facts and exhibits from various organizations and news outlets to support that it is not merely the "okay" symbol but a symbol of "White Supremacy."
Plaintiffs allege that Defendants should have known that, for several years prior to the incident, the subject hand gesture became a universally known "White Power" symbol that was used to target and express hatred towards certain populations based on race, ethnicity, color, and ancestry, and that the "White Power" hand gesture is considered intolerable in a civilized community. Plaintiffs allege that UCS is a subsidiary of Comcast Corporation, which is one of the news outlets that reported about the symbol, such that it should be aware of these reports. Plaintiffs allege that UCS had actual notice of the "White Power" symbol because UCS had been sued at least twice before for using the "White Power" hand gesture in 2019 through its "Felonious Gru" character and had issued a public statement and apology that it did not want its guests to experience what the families experienced and that it would take steps to make sure it did not happen again….
Plaintiffs have alleged facts regarding the intent with which numerous other persons have used an "white power," or "okay" hand gesture. Yet, as confirmed by oral argument they have not alleged any additional facts to explain why the Defendant Beetlejuice Doe character in question may have used this gesture or why UCS allegedly authorized him to do so.
Plaintiffs are inferring a specific meaning to what their own exhibit characterizes as "an obvious and ancient gesture that has arisen in many cultures over the years with different meanings." Indeed, this is the exhibit that contains the picture that Plaintiffs incorporate into their complaint to explain the newer meaning of the gesture. Although Plaintiffs previously objected to the Court considering this exhibit, they have now attached it into their complaint. This exhibit reads in part:
The overwhelming usage of the "okay" hand gesture today is still its traditional purpose as a gesture signifying assent or approval. As a result, someone who uses the symbol cannot be assumed to be using the symbol in either a trolling or, especially, white supremacist context unless other contextual evidence exists to support the contention. Since 2017, many people have been falsely accused of being racist or white supremacist for using the "okay" gesture in its traditional and innocuous sense.
Likewise, Exhibit B states that "it's impossible to tell if the sign is sincerely sinister shorthand for white supremacy or merely a kind of douchey magic spell that triggers libs with a wiggle of the fingers." This exhibit asserts that use of the symbol is "kinda racist," but concludes that assessment amounts to "wildly guessing." While noting that some racist groups have used it as a symbol of white power, it continues to be used in sign languages, yoga, and as a signal that all is well. This analysis conflicts with that of Plaintiffs' lawyers in the [Complaint] itself, but it is the [Complaint] that places it before the Court. Thus, the [Complaint] concedes that the gesture itself is ambiguous. Given the ambiguous nature of the signal, improper intent cannot be presumed from the mere gesture itself.
With this amendment, it is apparent that the mere use of this gesture is the issue here. Plaintiffs have not alleged any new facts or context regarding the incident itself to support the contention that intentional racial discrimination or harassment occurred. Even the photograph of the allegedly offensive gesture is not attached for the purpose of providing such context. As such, the Court's analysis remains the same. Whether some or all internet pundits contend that this gesture is offensive or innocent, or both, or neither, is not the question. There are no facts regarding this incident that demonstrate that the Defendant Beetlejuice Doe character or UCS intended racial discrimination beyond a gesture that the [Complaint] now concedes is ambiguous.
The test as to whether an offense to a protected class has occurred must be objective, not subjective as Plaintiffs demand. Entertainment and literature often contain material that is offensive to some persons. For example, compare the majority opinion in United States v. One Book Entitled Ulysses (2d Cir. 1934) 72 F.2d 705, which viewed James Joyce's Ulysses as "a work of symmetry and excellent craftsmanship of a sort." with the dissent, which viewed parts of the book as "too indecent to add as a footnote" to the opinion.
The Court knows of no case where the observation of subjectively offensive material at an amusement park amounts to intentional discrimination or a denial of services, and indeed the Court is unwilling to extend the Unruh Act that far, as it would open the Courts to an infinite number of such cases. For example, some patrons might easily allege an offense to their religion based on the mere appearance of the intentionally ugly and undead Beetlejuice character. An entire "world" of the park is devoted to attracting young people to witchcraft, which also might offend traditional religious values.
In this case, the regulation of speech is based on shifting and subjective perceptions of meaning rather than a clear prohibition. To allow the Unruh Act to be used as a speech code based on internet pundits' evolving perceptions of proper usage would make it vulnerable to First Amendment challenge. It also seems a trivialization of the original aims of a proud statute, which has been a fundamental part of California's civic and legal system since it was enacted in 1959 and thus has required generations of equal treatment under the law. The California Legislature is certainly capable of going beyond the Unruh Act to pass laws that prohibit certain forms of speech and conduct in business establishments, but it must do so clearly and directly, thereby allowing the legislation to be clearly understood so that it can be obeyed or challenged constitutionally before citizens are subjected to damages, fines, and attorney's fees….
The court likewise threw out plaintiffs' claims for intentional infliction of emotional distress and for negligence.
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A good companion to Orin S. Kerr's recent blog post.
Sure. Diverting attention from Alito's (and Thomas') conduct requires as much diversionary chaff as can be mustered.
I bet Justice Alito has used the "okay" sign. Impeachment is just around the corner.
He hasn't but his wife may have.
Oh, man. The usual suspects, especially the "Reverend," are about to have aneurisms. I mean, don't you know that symbols, even if once benign, acquire certain meanings? And if racist groups start using something, everyone is presumed to know that's what it means now, and it is therefore prima facie evidence that anyone who uses it is also a racist? Don't you know???
The judge has his own website: https://johnjkralik.com/
A bit unusual for a judge.
And does anyone think that Beetlejuice is a bit creepy for a character to entertain children at an amusement park?
Apparently the amusement park owners think otherwise, and it's their money at stake. I find clowns creepy, yet lots of otherwise sane people like them.
Also, Beetlejuice was a children's cartoon show that ran for four (4) years.
Clowns? If they try to be scary instead of merry, kookamunga them right in the heinie.
re: "does anyone think that Beetlejuice is a bit creepy ..."
No. Certainly no more creepy than the traditional subjects of fairy tales, fables and other common children's stories around the world.
Today is White Grievance Day and Conservative Grievance Day at the Volokh Conspiracy.
Tomorrow might be Male Grievance Day, Transgender This Day, Drag Queen Day, Transgender That Day, Black Crime Day, Lesbian Day, Transgender Sorority Drama Day, the ever-popular Racial Slur Day, or Transgender Something Else Day.
To celebrate:
The former law prof
tosses the daily red meat
to the clingerverse
I wonder how UCLA is celebrating today.
Ah yes, the antisemite can't stand that rationality has prevailed.
Don't you have a swastika to paint somewhere?
He could cut out the middleman tornadoes and go blow up a school full of (possibly) MAGA kids in the Midwest.
He must have an interesting back story. He may even have detailed it in all his comments. Someone ought to feed all his comments into various AIs and see what they make of it, if they can consistently decipher him.
I don't think there's anything particularly unique about the Rev. I think he exemplifies a certain type. He thinks of himself as a "liberal," but is, basically, a fascist (including even antisemitism!).
The Rev has the remarkable distinction of being the only Young Pioneer ever to receive the Klansman of the Year Award. In his acceptance speech he credited his achievement to the dogmatic atheism of his parents and the fact that they hated him.
Keep talking, assholes.
Who's the next Volokh Conspirator you bigots are going to blog right off campus?
Since when does bigotry (real or perceived) bother you, Bored Lawyer? Did a bolt of Jesus lightning strike you over the weekend, or something?
I love seeing disaffected Jew-haters get triggered.
You love all disaffected racists, Jew-haters, gay-bashers, Islamophobes, antisemites, xenophobes, transphobes, misogynists, and other right-wing bigots, like most right-wing stains at this white, male, wingnut blog.
You are seething with obese, white, self-hating, spittle-flecked, male liberal rage.
I bet you live in an all-white neighborhood.
I'm winning the culture war, watching with delight as cranky old conservative bigots get replaced and have their stale, bigoted right-wing thinking stomped by the glorious American liberal-libertarian mainstream.
My side was been winning the culture war -- which has been decided -- for a half-century. Clingers hardest hit. Which is great!
No wonder conservatives are cranky, disaffected, delusional, and desperate. Bigotry, superstition, and backwardness have consequences, thank goodness, at the modern American marketplace of ideas.
Let's toast another decade of kicking the bigoted shit out of right-wingers in the culture war!
I'm glad to have that picture included. I never understood before how OK turned into white power. Was it an abbreviation of OKKK? Did it symbolize bullet holes in heads?
Now I know, and it's scarred me for life what my fingers are capable of doing without my (conscious) knowledge. I'm going to have to amputate them ... but once I've amputated one hand's fingers, how can I possibly do the other?
O woe is me!
Some supposedly alt right figures flashed the okay sign and then the twitter blue checks decided this was white supremacy so nobody is allowed to flash the okay sign anymore. Simple as that.
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Fucking loonies...
Not even that much. It was a troll on 4chan. Only a lefty could even conceive of that as being probable cause.
It started as a 4chan meme to troll people into thinking that an innocent sign meant white supremacy. And people fell for it.
Gosh, I hope the plaintiffs will be...ok.
Oh ! I’d never seen it with the letters doodled on it before. So that’s why it’s alleged to be a white power symbol.
Funny thing is, I can’t get my fingers into the position to make that w and p, as shown. If I splay out fingers 3,4 and 5 to make a decent w, then the o from my forefinger and thumb doesn’t stick out sideways as in the picture, but straight towards me.
The only way I can get even a lame w and p is if I use my left hand and have the palm facing away from me. That creates a rather scrabbly grandma’s writing w p. But even then the forefinger and thumb isn’t really over the palm of my hand so it’s more of an o than a p.
Looks like I may get drummed out of the next Klam Bake or whatever it is they do.
Can anyone do a good one ? Maybe a pianist or violinist – someone who does finger exercises ? Is there a big musical faction in the white power movement ?
Reminds me of a case from several years ago where some on the internet concluded that a photo on the Facebook page of a black police officer, showing him giving a special fraternity handshake with a friend, was proof that he was a member of the Crips.
*shrug*
Not every unpleasant experience is actionable, or should be.
In a normal world, you would send a complaint to the employer and they would (probably) apologize and send you comp tickets, and investigate and discipline the employee (if appropriate).
Meh. Life would be better if we stopped trying to get courts involved with everything.
It took three years to get rid of this suit!
(Actually, I dunno when it was filed; it was dismissed 3 years after the incident itself.)
True fact.
I am aware of a federal lawsuit that is on its fifth complaint, after more than 16 months. Still not at issue.
And the Plaintiffs still haven't been able to get the pleading right. If the court allows it, they will be on number six shortly. And no, it's not pro se. And no, they are not complicated claims.
I briefly looked it up. State court, and it looks like the summons was issued August 4, 2023, with a demurrer (ugh, I hate the non-standard civil procedure) filed October 12, 2023. So ... not actually that long to get rid of.
You know, considering everything.
So it just took them 2 years to find a lawyer willing to take the case; once it was filed, it was dealt with (relatively) expeditiously.
Meh. Life would be better if we stopped trying to get courts involved with everything.
It would be even better if we stopped manufacturing excuses to be offended at every possible opportunity based on nothing more than overactive imaginations and general stupidity.
All of these "secret" meanings; who can keep up?
You only have to go to the Kerr or Blackman posts to find all those that not only know all the secret meanings but also are able to understand exactly which meaning someone is using.
Well, part of the issue with certain in-groups adopting symbols is that they can use them to identify themselves, and that the use might remain unknown to other people.
I don't think it's arguable that the "ok" symbol is used by white supremacists. It's also used by edgy teens who want to provoke and shock and aren't really thinking things through. And it's also used by regular people who don't know that it means anything other than ... you know, ok!
Which allows white supremacists to claim plausible deniability, but also ensnares regular people in false accusations.
Anyway, stupid lawsuit. Glad it got dismissed.
Hear, hear! One less stupid lawsuit is something to celebrate.
OK
The right people know that the symbol actually means "It stinks!"
As I said last week, white supremacists saying 'lets use the OK sign as a shibboleth as a prank on the normies' is still white supremacists using the OK sign as a shibboleth.
Thus, if a bunch of chinless white guys are all flashing the OK sign at the camera in some photo, my antennae will go up.
Not gonna make any immediate assumptions beyond that. And certainly not gonna sue anyone.
Now let's try that same wise approach with Justice Alita and the flag.
I can understand the confusion, because the woman seems to run that household, but it's Alito, not Alita.
First, I appreciate the callback. Really - it's so easy to just forget entries when the're done.
As to Alito - I’ve said I’m quite skeptical of his story, especially when a second flag hit the narrative.
But I think reasonable minds can differ on that one. I don't think that's contradictory to my thinking here.
I’m not going to sue Alito either, if that helps.
Alito is lying and you know it.
"white supremacists saying ‘lets use the OK sign as a shibboleth as a prank on the normies’ is still white supremacists using the OK sign as a shibboleth."
And people who aren't white supremacists saying ‘lets use the OK sign as a shibboleth as a prank on the normies’ are still people who aren't white supremacists using the OK sign as a shibboleth.
Glad we cleared that up.
Yes, which is why I look for other elements, like a bunch of chinless white guys all smirking at the camera. Add in the OK sign, and I've got a rebuttable presumption.
I wonder if the ruling would have been different in Canada, Germany, Sweden, or the European Court of Human Rights.
Why? You figure the world is no longer safe enough for white supremacists, conservative racists, and bigoted white nationalists?
Scuba divers should rejoice now. They won't have to give up their okay symbol to avoid offending lunatics.
Did anyone else play that game back in the 80's, when you tried to make someone look at your hand making that symbol, and if they did you could punch them? Childish but entertaining. Little did we know...
Biden has also used the "Okay" sign, so it must be okay.
https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000611733605.jpg
As well as this well-known white supremacist:
https://fortune.com/img-assets/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gettyimages-465692015-1.jpg
Speaking of word games, see this article, in off all places, the Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/israel-hamas-female-captives-sabaya-translation/678505/?utm_source=apple_news
It centers around Hamas operatives calling women they capture sabaya. As the article demonstrates, it basically means that a woman captured in war is a slave, whom the master can force to have sex with him. IOW, rape. After a review of the history of the word, the author writes: "I cannot stress enough that such relationships—that is, having sex with someone you own—constitute rape in all modern interpretations of the word, and they are frowned upon whether they occur in the Levant, the Hejaz, or Monticello."
"Is there a word in English that conveys that one views the battered women in one’s control as potentially sexually available? I think probably not. I would be very careful before speaking up to defend the user of such a word."
That's whom the pro-Palestinians are defending: people who believe women captured in war are to be treated as slaves, potentially forced to have sex with their masters.
What was that about war crimes and the Geneva Convention again?