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If An Applicant Didn't Check a Race Box, Harvard Would Assign a Race Anyway
Imagine you were a black or Hispanic applicant who did not want to be given a racial/ethnic preference when applying to Harvard. Or you were an Asian American applicant who feared that your Asian background would be a hindrance. The obvious thing to do, beyond lying on your application, would be to leave the race and ethnicity questions on the Common Application blank. I have even seen an admission consultant suggest that if someone leaves those questions blank, admissions officers would treat your application as if you were somewhere in between white and Asian.
It turns out, though, that according to the plaintiffs' statement of undisputed material facts filed in August 2018, with citations to the record, Harvard did not accept "undisclosed" for race as an answer, at least for applicants who piqued its interest:
184. If a student does not identify his or her race, the Admissions Office has alternative ways to determine the student's race through other information the Common Application requires, including the student's last name, citizenship status, birthplace, language proficiency, country of birth of the student's parents, and the parents' last names and former last names. Ex. 204, McGrath Ex. 3.
185. The Admissions Office can also do outside research through social media to determine an applicant's race, which it has done in at least one instance. Ex. 20, Ray 31:16-32:10.
Fascinating, and troubling. I have interacted with several academics who support affirmative action on condition that racial identity is voluntarily self-disclosed and defined, rather than imposed. It turns out that this did not apply to Harvard, and likely other schools.
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You will be assigned your place in a future perfect society.
Racists will always be racist.
I hope Skynet will set all race indicators in all databases to blank.
(Just before it assigns the life vocation to the individual)
These are the same people who like to cite studies where job applicants with a "black sounding" name go to the bottom of the stack, right? Guess it's only a problem when other people do it.
No, that's not it. It's only a problem if it's done to the wrong people.
This is how these people think:
We like certain racial / ethnic groups. We dislike certain other racial / ethnic groups. Anything we do to help members of our favored groups (or, I suppose, to hurt members of our disfavored groups) is justified. (If you ask them, they'll give you a long list of "reasons," e.g., such-and-such were victimized by such-and-such . . . well, maybe not them, but their great-great-great-great-grandpa, but still!)
The difference is that a "Black sounding" name usually indicates a racial activist and not just a random Black dude.
This is the reason that many countries don’t allow names or personal history to be revealed in Board exams (all exams from 10th grade onwards till Masters' are conducted by a board) and admission applications.
In many Asian countries, students apply or write exams with an issued number to keep their names anonymous from examiners and admission officials; and to ensure that MERIT is the only thing considered.
The intent is to reduce/eliminate any biases that examiners may have.
The crazy thing is, if you buy their rather questionable “diversity” rationale for racism in college admissions, this actually kind of makes sense. We must construct a diverse class for the alleged benefits of diversity. The wishes of the people being harvested for their diversity are somewhat besides the point.
UMass Amherst demonstrated that 20 years ago -- it REQUIRED all Asian students to live in the same building. Moved them out of the rooms they wanted to live in and with the kids they wanted as roommates and forced them into the Asian-only building.
The government considers me 'hispanic' although I looked quite scandinavian as a youth - tall, blond (now gray), blue eyed. Hispanic surname, parents born in central America, emigrated after WWII (I was the first in the family born in the US).
While it wasn't a big issue when I was in school, in post-doctoral education it became one - and I'd leave the question blank, and they would choose 'hispanic' because of my surname.
Which seemed rather fraudulent to me.
Were you at Camp Lejeune in the early 90's??
There was a Doc there with a similar umm "Background" that was always getting asked to speak at Hispanic school groups due to his Hispanic last name (it was "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" error, I didn't ask, he didn't tell) . He was about as Hispanic as Joseph Goebbels,
Frank
Of course it is fraudulent and discriminatory to boot.
"Or you were an Asian American applicant who feared that your Asian background would be a hindrance."
Or, more likely, you were a white, straight male who is enemy number one of the woke.
I have have a generic name that I share with a famous football player who is not white, so people see my name and often assume I'm black. But I check the "native American" box when available because I was born in America. Worked for Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren.
You wouldn't bother not checking if you were white, because if you don't check it is assumed you are either white or Asian, and it's better to be white than Asian.
Georgia Medical Board asks your race when you renew your license, I always put "Human"
So you lie?
C'mon (Man) I set that right up on the hitting tee for you nim-rods and that's the best you can do???
You check other.
I remember an episode of Seinfeld in which Jerry was disappointed because a woman with an Asian name turned out to be white. He had wanted his first Asian girlfriend. Wikipedia says the episode title is "The Chinese Woman".
One could set up a fake social media presence, but the odds of it making a difference are very small.
In practice is there any consequence to lying on the form? Not "I heard there was some Cherokee blood in my history" shading the truth, but outright lying?
When my niece and nephew were applying to college I suggested to my brother that he change his name and everyone his his family to Sanchez and then just have the kids leave the question blank on the application. He didn't, though.
I check OTHER and fill in
Citizen of the United States of America.
Kind of like SPQR...I like it
I worked with a fellow from the South with the last name Loper. When his daughter applied for college, I suggested that she mistyped and the r became an s.
from Russian Wikipedia:
note: Throughout the article, the word национальность (literally “nationality”) is used. I use the literal translation below, but what is meant by this is one’s ethnicity (Russian, Ukrainian, Georgian, etc.).
In USSR, line #5 for indicating one’s nationality was part of the standard Personal Information form used by the Interior Ministry to issue identification documents, as well as similar forms used by Personnel offices in all government establishments.
In the Soviet Union, the indication of one’s nationality in one’s passport and other identification documents was mandatory. A citizen’s nationality was entered in line #5 based on the nationality of his parents (or one of them). If the parents had different nationalities, in accordance with the 8/28/1974 decree of the Council of Ministers, the citizen had the right to pick the nationality of either parent when receiving his first passport at 16. He would not subsequently be able to change his nationality. For children under 16, nationality was usually determined by the father’s nationality. The nationality indicated in the passport had to be among the officially-recognized Soviet nationalities, according to the List of Nationalities, first issued in 1924.
If under Stalin the “policy on nationalities” sometimes included repression based on one’s nationality, and even deportation of entire national groups, after Stalin the existence of line #5 allowed the Soviet government to quietly and unofficially employ “soft forms” of discrimination and restrictions of entire national groups in their civil rights. This had to do, first of all, with the right to reside in certain parts of USSR, the right to practice certain professions, the right to education, and one’s employment. While in certain Soviet republics local national minorities were discriminated against, everywhere in USSR there was a permanent, quiet discrimination against Jews, Germans, Crimean Tatars, Greeks, Meskhetian Turks, and others — in employment, college admissions, graduate school admission, career advancement and obtaining managing positions, government awards and honors, membership in executive and legislative entities, foreign trips, etc.
The racial assignment checkbox must be filled, and as the “paper bag test” can’t be applied in person proxy information will be used to detect the applicant’s race and complete the entry accordingly.
By racists. To enable yet more politically-useful racism.
Great folks picking up what Prof. Bernstein is laying down.
Just the best people, having good times.
And you have a problem with that? Why?
I always check declines to state or other for race, ethnicity, sexual preference, etc.
He's making blanket and unsubstantiated accusations of racism again; don't worry about it.
You can't attack the argument logically so you instead try to smear it by those who are persuaded by it. Pathetic, but predictable.
If you check the wrong race box when applying to Harvard, would that be mail fraud?
Trick question – nobody applies by mail any more. Checking the wrong race box would be computer fraud instead.
(/sarc, I think (or hope))
You mean wire fraud.
I assume that private data brokers have databases with everyone's race and everything else Harvard wants to know. In the future, applications will not be needed. Harvard will just acquire the info from data brokers.
In my department, we are never allowed to assume a candidate's race, no matter how "obvious" ... probably because, I don't know, it may be racist.
I'm not the least bothered by what deeply concerns Prof B (ie, using social media to check applicants). If there is, let's say, a huge admissions advantage to checking "Latino" on the application, I'd be shocked if some people didn't lie about this, and didn't falsely put down this untruthful self-reporting of being Latino. What is the problem with a school doing a bit of due diligence? *Especially* on social media, which is what we have voluntarily chosen to show to the world? I'm seeing zero privacy invasion.
"If there is, let’s say, a huge admissions advantage to checking “Latino” on the application"
But there wouldn't be, because that would be illegal...right?
Anyway, the application would say "Latinx" or "hispanic," not the sexist "Latino."
SM,
I am bothered because it is an act of significant disrespect toward the applicant.
If they are going to "check," then they owe the applicants an explanation of the same on the application form.
I always decline to state with respect to such questions, because I do not trust the institution not to use the information for discriminatory practices.
Agreed ... and also because my race is never an option.
Well this is a bit misleading for people who don't practice law. Did the defendant dispute this fact in the MSJ? I'm sure you are aware that the UMF is not quite undisputed, the party filing the MSJ just aspirationally names the document as such and then the party opposing the MSJ has an opportunity to dispute the fact in their separate statement. What was Harvard's response?
To be clear, I trust the plaintiffs had some evidence to cite, but this is only one side of the story. I've opposed many an MSJ where the moving party submits highly disputed "undisputed facts"
What I love is the fact that WHITE folk from South Africa are technically African-Americans in that they were born in Africa and now are Americans....
The diversity mafia doesn't like that mentioned....
It still stuns me how this was exactly what Harvard did when they were trying to limit Jews. They would assign a rating of 1 to 3 based on the same damn information.