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Justice Stevens's Papers Reveal How The Fortune Cookies Were Baked In Lawrence v. Texas
Believe it or not, Justice Kennedy's final opinion toned down some of the "awkward language."
So far, I have not been blown away by the revelations from Justice Stevens's papers. Maybe my expectations were too high. In one sense, the earlier drafts are something like legislative history history, and do not represent the full opinion of the Court. But more precisely, Stevens did not have all of the memos that explain why certain changes were made. I suppose those records may be found with Justice Kennedy's papers.
In any event, the latest story from Joan Biskupic and Devan Cole includes a few worthwhile revelations about Lawrence v. Texas.
First, believe it or not, Justice Kennedy's draft opinion had even more cringeworthy rhetoric. And the Court's progressives objected!
Kennedy also withdrew language that some of his colleagues regarded as awkward or out of place, such as, "The sexual instinct is of endless fascination for the human. Its beauty and power are best respected when the individual has substantial freedom to explore it to attain a better understanding of the concept of self and the place he or she has in a larger universe."
His final opinion, instead, said in that section, "When sexuality finds overt expression in intimate conduct with another person, the conduct can be but one element in a personal bond that is more enduring. The liberty protected by the Constitution allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice."
Justice Scalia, preach:
If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: "The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity," I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.
And to paraphrase Scalia and Bismarck, "no one should see how sausages or Kennedy opinions are made."
Second, at conference, Justice Breyer only wanted to grant cert if there were five votes to reverse Bowers:
When the nine justices considered in December 2002 whether to take up the appeal, Stevens, Kennedy, David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg voted to hear the case. (It takes four to grant a case a hearing but five to decide it.)
Breyer signaled that he wanted to hear the case, too, Stevens' notes indicate, but only if those ready to hear it were prepared to stick together for a majority to reverse Bowers' holding that constitutional due process of law does not cover private same-sex relations.
I don't know if we have ever seen confirmation that there is such an overt discussion of the merits at the conference vote to grant cert. I always assumed these conversations happened, but Stevens's papers reflects that practice exists.
Third, Justice O'Connor voted not to grant cert--perhaps to avoid having to revisit Bowers.
Then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justices O'Connor, Scalia and Clarence Thomas voted to let the lower court action and the charges against the men stand. It is not known why O'Connor voted against the appeal at this stage, but she may have wanted to avoid confronting her vote with the majority in the earlier Bowers case.
Fourth, O'Connor reached her decision on equal protection after oral arguments, and never planned to join Justice Kennedy's majority opinion.
After oral arguments on March 26, 2003, the five votes held, according to Stevens' notes from their private meeting, and O'Connor moved to their side as well. She wanted to reverse the lower court ruling, on the grounds that the Texas law violated the equal protection of the law. That allowed O'Connor, also an appointee of Ronald Reagan, to avoid casting a vote to outright reverse her Bowers v. Hardwick position.
Fifth, Justice Breyer urged Justice Kennedy to limit his majority opinion to the sodomy ban. Breyer, ever the pragmatist, realized that Lawrence should not, overtly at least, reach out to the same-sex marriage issue. That (inevitable) result would come twelve years later in Obergefell.
"After reading my first circulation, Stephen [Breyer] suggested revisions to make it clear we do not decide more than the question presented," Kennedy wrote on June 10 of that year of a conversation with Breyer. "These, plus a few other edits, are contained in a new circulation to the entire Court. Stephen's suggestions were quite constructive, and I am hoping how he can join."
Sixth, it seems that Justice O'Connor initially framed her equal protection concurrence in terms of a classification. But she had discussions with Amy Wildermuth, a Stevens clerk, who was the only-out gay law clerk at the Court that term. Wildermuth suggested other language that focused on "moral disapproval."
At the top of Stevens' copy of O'Connor's first draft is the small notation, "Suggested changes to SOC's opinion from Amy Wildermuth." Throughout the eight-page draft are various edits, mainly concerned with the nuances of phrasing. . . .
In her conclusion, for example, O'Connor had originally written, "A law branding one class of citizens as criminal solely because the majority disapproves of the defining characteristic of the class runs contrary to the values of the Constitution and the Equal Protection Clause."
O'Connor changed it to Wildermuth's suggested language: "A law branding one class of persons as criminal solely based on the State's moral disapproval of that class and the conduct associated with that class runs contrary to the values of the Constitution and the Equal Protection Clause."
Wildermuth's revision here would prove quite significant down the road. This theme of "moral disapproval" played an important role in Justice Kennedy's majority opinion, and would ultimately form the basis for Windsor and Obergefell. Justice Scalia predicted as much in his Lawrence dissent:
This reasoning leaves on pretty shaky grounds state laws limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples. Justice O'Connor seeks to preserve them by the conclusory statement that "preserving the traditional institution of marriage" is a legitimate state interest. But "preserving the traditional institution of marriage" is just a kinder way of describing the State's moral disapproval of same-sex couples. Texas's interest in § 21.06 could be recast in similarly euphemistic terms: "preserving the traditional sexual mores of our society." In the jurisprudence JUSTICE O'CONNOR has seemingly created, judges can validate laws by characterizing them as "preserving the traditions of society" (good); or invalidate them by characterizing them as "expressing moral disapproval" (bad).
One final point on sourcing. CNN quotes Wildermuth:
"'Are we using the right terms?' 'Are we saying this in a way that could be offensive?' If you're not in the culture, you just don't know," Wildermuth said in an interview with CNN about the kinds of questions that came her way.
Wildermuth, now teaching at Ohio State Moritz College of Law, emphasized the era, when justices were less familiar with LGBTQ interests. "I was happy to share my perspective," she said. "It was not something I was uncomfortable with."
Nothing in the Stevens files indicated why Wildermuth was enlisted. When reached by CNN, she explained, "It wasn't unusual for people working on cases to be asked to help the clerks in other chambers, to provide feedback. It also was true that I was the only out gay law clerk at the time. That may also have prompted interest in getting feedback from me and from my co-clerks."
CNN apparently also spoke with other clerks from "various chambers" who confirmed Wildermuth's account, and commented on other aspects of deliberations. Jeannie Suk Gersen likewise wrote an article about the deliberations in Grutter and Gratz, based on the Stevens papers. She quoted two clerks from that term, Cristina Rodriguez (O'Connor) and Adam Mortara (Thomas).
Is talking to the press about internal deliberations the new normal? Is there some sort of statute of limitation--an O'Connor-esque 20 year clock on law clerk confidentiality? Or, is it that law clerks can speak out of turn to confirm information in publicly-available files.
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"Stevens, Kennedy, David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg voted to hear the case."
3 of 4 picked by GOP presidents. Sad.
They aren't called the stupid party for nothing.
Yes it’s so sad that you can’t put people in prison for the “crime” of consenting adults engaging in sexual behavior in private. Utter ghoul.
Bigots gonna bigot.
Especially at the white, male, faux libertarian, movement conservative Volokh Conspiracy, which welcomes the bigotry.
Until replacement, that is, clingers.
Kinder, Gentler Frank here, "Reverend"
"Replacement" is so umm
"Unkind, Ungentle"
it's like saying "JFK was "Replaced" by LBJ"
"MLK Jr." was "Replaced" with "The Reverend" Jesse Jackson
trying to remember who "Replaced" you at Penn State, "Coach"
Ooops, Frank got a little un-kind there
Frank
Replacement is beautiful.
Here is how it works:
Elderly right-wingers die off in the natural course, taking their stale, ugly conservative thinking to grave. Better, younger Americans replace the culture war casualties in our society (birth, immigration) and electorate (18th birthdays). This makes America less rural, less religious, less bigoted, less backward, and more diverse.
This has become the American way.
"..you can’t put people in prison for the 'crime' of consenting adults engaging in sexual behavior in private."
It was a crime without scare quotes, and if you want that to be unconstitutional you need a better argument than that you wish it were otherwise/
Try to imagine a Justice Miers…would you still defend wanting Elian Gonzalez to remain with his American kidnappers if Bush had gotten his way?? I know no one can ever take away the joy you got from slaughtering hundreds of thousands innocent Muslims and creating 7000 new Gold Star Families…W, the President!
Miers would not have been as good as Alito but far better than Roberts.
You really think Miers would have voted as you prefer, overturn Roe, and also decided Citizens United, Shelby County the same as Roberts, also his dissents in Windsor and Obergefell? You’re kidding yourself. She was another O’Connor waiting to happen–she would have Soutered right along with the liberals. Roberts is not O’Connor or Souter.
Blackman's personal jihad against Roberts is unhinged and irrational, as is anyone who tries to imagine the mystical unicorn they would like in his place.
Roberts is shit. Improving on shit doesn’t take a unicorn though I agree Miers could have been worse. Bush, after all, was shit too.
Elian Gonzalez' "kidnapper" was his mother.
It's more about time period then partisanship.
Simply put, before Clinton gay issues weren't really a partisan issue, and people (in both parties) were more free to have whatever view they had without it being seen as "against the party".
Which is to say... when those justices were nominated, their stance on gay folk wasn't much of a consideration.
Nowadays, of course, what a person thinks about "is it morally acceptable to be gay" is part of the litmus test.
Let each Justice write what they will without such horse trading. If it was good enough for John Jay, it must be good enough for Roberts.
We weren't so judge-ridden then. So, no.
It's not too hard to imagine how Scalia would have ruled in Loving.
His Lawrence dissent wouldn't need much editing.
As an aside...
Your own writing betrays you. Even as you try and claim that this is all so ho-hum, you can't stop obsessing over it, looking for the smallest glimmer of insight... that you then claim wasn't all that insightful.
It's odd. Like the guys that can't stop writing about how hot gay sex is while complaining it's so sinful and evil. Your focus and obsession betray you.
"Gay Sex"
big difference between Britney/Madonna kiss and whatever Booty-Judge and Chasten do.
One's hot, other is just inherently disgusting, and that's not based on religion or ethics, just my Reptilian Brain...
Frank
You mean playing choo choo train going into a tunnel?
It's not sinful or evil. It's just disgusting, and a sensible society doesn't tolerate it.
C'mon (man!!!) you wouldn't like to see AOC and MTG make out?? what are you? a Homo!?!?!?!??!?
Ooops, that wasn't too kind/gentle
Frank
He probably is.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/
https://zerohedge.com/political/wearing-shirt-saying-there-are-only-two-genders-not-protected-speech-rules-obama
What do you know? A non-white female Obongo judge is kowtowing to the transgender lobby in violation of her oath.
Another day at the Volokh Conspiracy, another day of multifaceted right-wing bigotry.
By now, the sole reasonable conclusion is that the Volokh Conspirators want their blog to be steeped in racism, gay-bashing, Islamophobia, white supremacy, antisemitism, misogyny, xenophobia, and QAnon-MAGA delusion.
Homosexuality is a choice, in the sense that it is a learning disorder that may result from trauma or lack of social bonding. Like any addictive disorder, it is accompanied by a host of maladaptive behaviour.
Homosexuals are more likely to have eating disorders (7-12x), to smoke (27-200% higher), engage in alcohol abuse (3x), amphetamine abuse (12x higher), heroin (10x higher) and other illegal drug use, have a gambling addiction (21% higher), engage in interpersonal violence (2x).
The National Association of Addiction Professionals even produced a special Powerpoint outlining a variety of homosexual addictions. 25% of serial arsonists are homosexuals, as are one-third of thrill-seeking arsonists. Homosexual arsonists even have their own Tumblr E-zin (“Flaming”).
Homosexuals (both men and women) are MORE likely to be involved in an unintended pregnancy than heterosexuals (3x higher), and they have 4.5x-100x more sexual partners than heterosexuals. 93% of “lesbians” reported have sex with men. Rates of suicide are 2-10x higher.
All of these numbers hold across all cultures in which studies have been done, regardless of how “gay-friendly” the culture is.
Jason Hill, a homosexual man writing in the Federalist, agrees that the homosexual lifestyle revolves around addiction: “Promiscuous sex and drug use are not exceptional or marginalized currents in gay culture. They are an omnipresent force in every register, crook, and cranny of the gay world. The new and disturbing “Poz Me” trend merging in gay culture needs to be nationally discussed. This culture consists in underground online sites where gay men who are HIV negative hook up with men who are not and beg to be “breeded” by HIV-positive men.”
Gays make up 80% of the both the AIDS and the syphilis cases in the US, their rate of syphilis is ten times that of the heterosexual population, and hepatitis-B transmits nearly nine times more efficiently than AIDS among homosexuals. 55% of homosexual men with ano-rectal complaints have gonorrhea, one-third have herpes simplex, 15% have chlamydia. Gays contract gonorrhea of the throat at a rate four times higher than heterosexuals. 91% of homosexual men have intestinal protozoa: the majority of shigella and amoeba infections among non-travelled immunocompetent patients are homosexuals. Indeed, one New York study found that every single such patient with giardiasis was homosexual. E. histolytica infection is a staggering twenty-seven times more prevelant in homosexuals. Not surprisingly, the most powerful predictor for both giardiasis and E. histolytica infection is homosexual behaviour. Rates of anal cancer are 2500 times higher in homosexuals.
If we regulate or outlaw alcohol, tobacco and drug use because of their harm to society, then outlawing homosexuality is reasonable.
I agree that that language does not belong in a Supreme Court opinion, but I don't disagree with it. Do you?
Reminds me of the Mystery of Life passage from Casey. Kennedy liked to get philosophical in some of his opinions.
When your "sexual instinct" lmpels you to look to penetrate another guy's butt to get your rocks off I don't think beauty or respect need play any part in it. Fucking feels great, I know, but lipsticking up a pig is a repulsive exercise at best.
Philosopher Justice of the Supreme Court
(an office that doesn't actually exist, but Kennedy pretended ir did and that he occupied it)
So 2 married gay dudes, is their marital bed activities not in sufficiently coached by reason and intellect?
Would you make adultery a criminal offense?
You one of those no fault divorce is bad people?
I don't like Kennedy opinions much either, but you're just doing the same cringe but for puritanism.
Guy who looked at child porn because “Hunter Biden” has thoughts on sexual ethics.
... you want me to fuck your daughter? Is that what you're saying? You want me to leave my husband and fuck your daughter?
What kind of asshole are you to wish that on her?
Betrayal, marital fidelity-related or otherwise, sucks.
Lots of things suck.
Dunno if it's time to call in the government every time someone betrays someone else.
You want to institute some kinda governmental War on Sin?
Adultery is a criminal offense under Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (The "General Article" where they can get you for Mopery, Impersonating a Human etc), seems most of the prosecutions have been in the Marine Corpse.
3 Elements to the offense
1: That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;
2: That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and
3: That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Frank "Never Convicted"
Adultery is a criminal offense in sixteen states. I don´t know of any prosecutions therefor since Lawrence v. Texas was decided.
You did say you viewed what was on The Laptop, and it included child porn.
Which means you viewed child porn.
Not sure you thought that through.
Two things.
First, it’s not a lie. I book-marked it so every time you claim it is, I can prove you wrong and remind everyone.
https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/22/the-question-i-would-ask-kbj-how-would-you-change-the-supreme-court-confirmation-process/?comments=true#comments
Second. This quote: “the guy who defines his place in the universe by his genitals” is just the social conservative world view. That biological sex and gender is an immutable trait defined in part by outward secondary sex characteristics. That the sexes have distinct natural roles to play in human society and that certain acts involving them are by their very nature disordered and unnatural. I mean you’re literally defending anti-sodomy laws here, how is that not defining the place of people by their genitals!?
Kalak, you define the world by your genitals too. If I were meeting you for the first time at a party and asked you to tell me about yourself one of the first things you’d say is that you’re married and have X number of children. Which conveys that you like women and have vaginal sex with your wife. You define yourself by your sexuality just as much as gay people do.
You don’t think about it in those terms because you see your sexuality as sacred and gay sexuality not so much. But you’re really no different than gay people are. Sexuality is a core part of a person’s identity.
Also the entire anti-LGBT movement is about social conservatives believing social/cultural roles and appropriate human behavior are dictated at least in part by one’s genitals.
Except it’s not:
https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/22/the-question-i-would-ask-kbj-how-would-you-change-the-supreme-court-confirmation-process/?comments=true#comments
“I would not be caught dead spreading this allegation if I hadn’t at least seen the images and videos myself. Btw reddit will give you a sitewide ban for linking to their competitors where this can be found.”
“I would not be caught dead spreading this allegation if I hadn’t at least seen the images and videos myself. Btw reddit will give you a sitewide ban for linking to their competitors where this can be found.”
It is a gotcha because I, and most normal people, would never in a million years click on something I believed to contain images or video of child sexual abuse I found on the internet.
The bigotry, ignorance, and authoritarianism of current conservatives' ideological ancestors, augmented by a bunch of silly superstition.
Why do you think sodomy was illegal, or forbidden, in most of the world’s history?
Because for most of the world's history, including biblical times, it was considered highly desirable to expand the group's population - to bed fruitful and multiply - and homosexual conduct was thought to decrease population growth.
Does that concern apply today?
No. Because it is a place that has long had a very bad reputation of a place where people posted child sexual abuse materials. Which you looked for. And tried to link to by your own admission. Because Hunter Biden.
You think you're normal? There's the problem.
What if you look at it by "Accident"?? Like the "Ball Showing" game we all played in High School, you know, where you trick someone into looking at your balls accidently, and when they do, you get to punch them in the arm (your mileage may vary, some areas you got to kick the violator in the balls) all sorts of variations with how you presented your balls, the "Bat Wing" where you stretch the skin of your Scrotum, so it resembles, duh, a Bat Wing, the "Brain" where you pull the Skin tight over your balls so it resembles, duh,
a Brain,
Frank
In the context of not wanting to look at child porn? Yes. Yes I am.
This is an impressive excluded middle. Alongside some pretty flailing attempts at emotionalism.
So: adultery shouldn't be illegal doesn't mean I think child molestation shouldn't be illegal.
Just as: You think sodomy should be illegal doesn't mean you think all sex should be illegal.
We all draw lines. It's quite a thing if you think you're somehow not.
You do realize that the individual mandate is gone and nobody cares?? In fact by not getting rid of the individual mandate at that time Republicans were able to get $300 billion more in tax cuts that gave us 2.5% GDP growth.
"I book-marked it "
You are a weird dude. Keeping track of comments like a maniac.
Hopefully mad does not have a pet rabbit.
Careful, this is supposed to be a kinder, gentler VC. If Frank can do it so can you.
You fuck my daughter and Frank's not gonna be gentle or kind.
So all this open mindedness of things sexual...
So why is having sex with siblings or heck, your mom (HT J. Morrison) so Taboo.
and don't tell me about Birth Defects, I had a Vasectomy in the last Millenium.
Not saying I want to (redacted) my sister or Mom, but I'd rather do that than get boo-fued by some dude.
Frank
Haha, no it was an incredible self-own and I'm glad someone saved it.
Someone admitting to a federal sex crime, even if it was just on a blog comment, is not something that should be forgotten. It kind of changes your whole perception of a person.
It’s curious though. You’ve said that you think all pornography should be banned. Indeed you have extremely socially conservative beliefs on sex and sexuality. You also routinely cast yourself as a defender of victims against criminals and think “justice” is more important than anything else, including rights or fair proceedings.
Yet here you are calling me the maniac and not the dude who admitted to viewing child sex abuse material and encouraged others to do the same. Indeed you’re worried about his safety. That’s interesting wouldn’t you say?
If your idea of "kinder and gentler" means I have to smile and nod while Mad_Kalak goes off, but he gets to go off with no objection, that's not "kinder and gentler", that's just "shut up and take it, [slur]".
That said, I looked through the headlines and blurbs up till Thursday last week, and the only trace of kinder/gentler I can find is your own claim on Monday's open thread, so I literally have no clue what you're talking about.
Try being a gay, gay and turn the other cheek.
Cool story bro. Really convincing me that this "kinder/gentler" thing is real, and not just a way for you to harass people you don't like.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with consensual sexual activity between adults.
Unlike adultery that betrays no vows, no trust.
You know that, I'm sure, Herr Mad_Kalak, but ignore it. Your Fuehrer, after all, hated homosexuals.
Here’s the issue. You think incest is icky and most people (including me) agree with you. But once procreation is off the table (you’ve had a vasectomy) then other than that you think it’s icky, what real harm does it do? I personally think eating raw oysters is icky but I don’t try to pass laws about it. And from a public health standpoint I suspect far more people suffer ill effects from undercooked seafood than from consensual non-procreative incest among adults.
That's the point,
it IS ill-legal (at Bushwood)
why?
and with the Daily Star Wars Bar Scene for the whole "Pride" month,
why no "Incest is Best!!!!" celebrations??
and I didn't say Incest was "Icky", just that it wasn't as "Icky" as getting Boo-Fooed
Frank
I think the standard argument is that it dramatically changes the family dynamic in psychologically unhealthy ways if household members are seen as potential romantic/sexual partners.
Also I would think there is an extremely strong presumption against household incestuous relationships being “consensual.” Even between adults claiming it’s consensual, it would be highly likely that the relationship is the result of some form of manipulation, coercion, and (real) grooming by the one of them.
I care that Roberts is a clown who, when it was pointed out that Obamacare could no longer conceivably be a tax, decided that no one had standing to challenge his faceplant.
Being married and having children no longer necessarily indicates having vaginal sex. And it was never conclusive evidence of heterosexuality. What do you think the downlow was/is about?
Justice Kennedy´s flowery language is not too different from that employed by Justice Brennan nearly a half century before:
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476, 487 (1957).
"The life of the law has not been logic, but experience."
I suspect that's probably true; I once knew a gay couple that was also father and son; at the time I knew them the son was in his mid twenties and the father was around fifty. I have no doubt that their incestuous relationship came about because of unhealthy dynamics in the home growing up, and may even have started before the son became an adult.
That said, though, adults make lots of unhealthy choices for lots of unhealthy reasons, some of them going back to things that happened to them in childhood. And once someone is an adult, they generally have the right to make their own choices.
Oh, the fact that someone likes a particular type of sex doesn't mean they don't also like other types of sex. But if someone is the biological parent of a child, it does mean that they've had vaginal sex, at least once.
But not everyone shares your tastes. If I showed you two pictures, one of a naked man and the other of a naked woman, and asked you to tell me why you like one but not the other, I doubt you could give me an objective reason. It would come down to you like what you like. And if what you like isn't causing any harm, why is it anyone else's concern?
How 'bout you worry about what your "sexual instinct" impels you to do, and stop sweating what other consenting adults are up to?
Being obsessed with other people's sex lives isn't healthy, whether we're talking about middle-aged women going through the tabloids obsessed with celebrities or [whatever you are] obsessing over random gay men.
Look, just admit you were too dumb to understand how standing works.
One sign that someone is a hack is when they try to personalize a decision for no reason. "Roberts" didn’t decide that; 7 justices did, including Thomas, Kavanaugh, and Barrett, and Roberts — while joining the opinion — was not even the author of it.
I'll admit that I am too dumb to understand how standing works. How is it that a law that affects the entire economy cannot be challenged by anyone, but producing wheat on your own farm for your own use is interstate commerce? If any market effect, however small, is interstate commerce and affects the entire economy, why doesn't regulation of the entire medical marketplace give standing to anyone who consumes medical products?
This is not sarcasm. I am looking for serious answers.
You’ve stumbled upon the answer! (I somewhat agree with your synopsis.)
How exactly does that apply to constitutional law judging? I know this is contrary to your worldview/living-constitution nonsense, but I know of one way legitimate way for something to be constitutional at one moment, then not at another future time, absent an amendment. (This is the Obergefell oral arguments Q: did traditional marriage become unconstitutional the moment 14A was ratified, but no one realized it like a tree falling in a forest?) When is today?
Things don’t suddenly become unconstitutional for governments to restrict because of technological innovation (birth control becoming commonplace, inexpensive/effective).
How exactly does that apply to constitutional law judging?
I didn't say it did. I just gave my opinion in answer to m_k's question.
I know this is contrary to your worldview/living-constitution nonsense,
You don't know my worldview or my views on the Constitution.
It is true, though, that I think much of originalism as argued today is hogwash.