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Justice Alito Defends The Supreme Court In Ways Chief Justice Roberts Cannot
If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Supreme Court, Justice Alito is its heart.
I've grown completely numb to the daily reporting on alleged ethical problems at the Supreme Court. All of these pieces follow a similar pattern. (1) Reporter spends an inordinate amount of time poring over mountains of publicly-available documents. (2) Reporter finds something that was not disclosed, or not fully-disclosed. (3) Reporter raises allegation that the failure to fully disclose that item is a problem, without actually identifying what that problem is. (4) Reporter interviews left-wing ethics groups who insist that full disclosure is necessary. (5) Reporter interviews the same cadre of law professors, who maintain that even though no actual rule was violated, the Justice should abide by some unwritten, higher standard. (6) Reporter publishes piece, which is widely shared on social media, but not actually read. (7) Sober analysis later reveals that the Justice either complied with the rules or made a good-faith mistake that will promptly be corrected. I'll have much more to say about this journalistic paint-by-numbers in a future ABA Journal column. Sunlight is a good disinfectant; too much heat will burn everything down.
But you know what the press has largely forgotten about? An actual judicial crisis: how the draft Dobbs opinion leaked to the press. The media should devote as much attention to the leak, as it fixates on who Amy Coney Barrett hosted a baby shower for 20 years ago.
And amidst these attacks, the Supreme Court remains rudderless. We know that the Chef Justice is unable, or unwilling to defend his Court beyond self-serving bromides about the Court as an "institution." If he thought his shoddy letter to the Senate would quell controversy, he was very wrong. The statement the Chief organized raised more questions than it answered. Fortunately, at least one member of the Court is willing to defend the Court against the never-ending barrage of attacks: Justice Samuel Alito. If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Court, Justice Alito is its heart.
We see this heart in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, given in mid-April. He defends the Supreme Court in ways the Chief Justice cannot, or will not.
First, Alito explains, correctly, that what will harm the Court's legitimacy is to rule based on public perception--exactly what the Casey plurality purported to do:
The threat to politicize the court can tempt justices to rule defensively—to take account of political ramifications and thereby politicize their own institution. The plurality explicitly did that in Casey, and some sitting justices have been accused of it in recent years. Justice Alito isn't one of them.
"This is not a situation in which the right thing to do is different from the expedient thing to do, at least in the long term," he says. The public "will have reason to question our legitimacy if they see that what we are doing is not following the Constitution and the laws, but we've got our finger to the wind"—he lofts a digit—"and we're issuing decisions that nobody really believes represent our sincere thinking about the law, but are structured in a way to curry favor, avoid controversy or something like that."
Justice Antonin Scalia said something similar in his dissent in Casey: "The notion that we would decide a case differently from the way we otherwise would have in order to show that we can stand firm against public disapproval is frightening."
I made this point in a Newsweek column last summer. Dobbs did not simply overrule Casey. Dobbs overruled the "judges of wisdom" who based their decision on popular sentiment.
Justice Alito calls out the incessant criticism targeting the Court's "legitimacy."
But as the court has grown more conservative in recent years, the left has stepped up the attacks on the court's "legitimacy," including character assassination of individual justices, with little objection from mainstream Democrats and plenty of help from the media.
Justice Alito says "this type of concerted attack on the court and on individual justices" is "new during my lifetime. . . . We are being hammered daily, and I think quite unfairly in a lot of instances."
Ultimately, these efforts are a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you keep repeating the "legitimacy" line over and over again, it eventually becomes "true." People will believe the Court is no longer legitimate.
Those who throw the mud then disparage the justices for being dirty. "We're being bombarded with this," Justice Alito says, "and then those who are attacking us say, 'Look how unpopular they are. Look how low their approval rating has sunk.' Well, yeah, what do you expect when you're—day in and day out, 'They're illegitimate. They're engaging in all sorts of unethical conduct. They're doing this, they're doing that'?"
And these efforts will, in the end, weaken the ability of the Court do its business.
It "undermines confidence in the government," Justice Alito says. "It's one thing to say the court is wrong; it's another thing to say it's an illegitimate institution. You could say the same thing about Congress and the president. . . . When you say that they're illegitimate, any of the three branches of government, you're really striking at something that's essential to self-government."
Second, Alito observes that those most familiar with the Court's work refuse to defend the Court.
"And nobody, practically nobody, is defending us. The idea has always been that judges are not supposed to respond to criticisms, but if the courts are being unfairly attacked, the organized bar will come to their defense." Instead, "if anything, they've participated to some degree in these attacks."
Indeed, the American Bar Association has adopted a resolution calling on the Court to adopt an ethics code. You may think that resolution is neutral, or even salutary. But the leaders in the legal profession are feeding into the "legitimacy" attack.
Yet, many of the same people who carp about legitimacy also insist that Court "expansion" is the only way to restore the Court's legitimacy. Alito disagrees.
Justice Alito finds the whole notion appalling: "To change the size of the court just because you want to change the result in cases—that would destroy it. You want to talk about our legitimacy? That would destroy the perception that we're anything other than a political body."
Third, Justice Alito turns to Dobbs. Justice Alito echoed Justice Thomas's concerns that the leak harmed the Court's collegiality:
He now says that the leak "created an atmosphere of suspicion and distrust. We worked through it, and last year we got our work done. This year, I think, we're trying to get back to normal operations as much as we can. . . . But it was damaging."
Alito also reveals that he suspects he knows who leaked the draft.
Justice Alito says the marshal "did a good job with the resources that were available to her" and agrees that the evidence was insufficient for a public accusation. "I personally have a pretty good idea who is responsible, but that's different from the level of proof that is needed to name somebody," he says.
Does "who is" here refer to a single person, or to more than one person? I think the former. But more importantly, Justice Alito opines on the motive. Hint, it wasn't a conservative.
He's certain about the motive: "It was a part of an effort to prevent the Dobbs draft . . . from becoming the decision of the court. And that's how it was used for those six weeks by people on the outside—as part of the campaign to try to intimidate the court."
Alito finds it preposterous that anyone would think a conservative leaked the document:
A few pundits on the left speculated that the leaker might have been a conservative attempting to lock in the five-justice majority and overturn the constitutional right to abortion. "That's infuriating to me," Justice Alito says of the theory. "Look, this made us targets of assassination. Would I do that to myself? Would the five of us have done that to ourselves? It's quite implausible."
Those who maintain that Alito leaked the opinion to "lock in" votes will now have to accuses Alito of lying. (That won't be a problem.)
Alito also highlights an obvious fact: a Justice was almost assassinated to prevent the majority from releasing the opinion. In hindsight, at least, a conservative would never have made this move.
That campaign included unlawful assemblies outside justices' homes, and that wasn't the worst of it. "Those of us who were thought to be in the majority, thought to have approved my draft opinion, were really targets of assassination," Justice Alito says. "It was rational for people to believe that they might be able to stop the decision in Dobbs by killing one of us." On June 8, an armed man was arrested outside the home of Justice Brett Kavanaugh; the suspect was later charged with attempted assassination and has pleaded not guilty.
Justice Alito also weighed in on the changes to his security protocol:
He adds that "I don't feel physically unsafe, because we now have a lot of protection." He is "driven around in basically a tank, and I'm not really supposed to go anyplace by myself without the tank and my members of the police force." Deputy U.S. marshals guard the justices' homes 24/7. (The U.S. Marshals Service, a bureau of the Justice Department, is distinct from the marshal of the court, who reports to the justices and oversees the Supreme Court Police.)
Finally, Alito also predicted that Justice Scalia would have joined the majority in Dobbs:
How did Scalia escape the opprobrium to which his younger colleagues and successors have been subjected? In part by dissenting often. "Nobody can say for sure," Justice Alito says, "but I'm willing to bet he would have been on the side that has been so heavily criticized in all the controversial cases. His vote would have been there, and he would have been subjected to the same kind of criticism."
There's little doubt that would have been true of Dobbs. "Some decisions," Justice Alito says, "and I think that Roe and Casey fell in this category, are so egregiously wrong, so clearly wrong, that that's a very strong factor in support of overruling them." Scalia was even blunter in Casey: "We should get out of this area, where we have no right to be, and where we do neither ourselves nor the country any good by remaining."
"When you're in dissent," Justice Alito observes, "well, his ideas were amusing and interesting. He spoke at a lot of law schools and he was honored at law schools, but he wasn't a threat, because those views were not prevailing on issues that really hit home."
I agree.
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Sorry, Alito’s “Who, moi?” deflection doesn’t pass the parsimony test. There are four justices and their respective teams of clerks who might have seen Roberts’ attempts to sway Kavanaugh and shared enough of Josh’s opprobrium for the CJ to feel perfectly justified in cornering Kavanaugh by a well-timed leak. Kavanaugh’s concurrence also showed him trying to cabin Dobbs by signaling its limited scope (we’ll soon see whether those promises hold, I suppose), suggesting that he had some trepidation about going as far as Alito. Meanwhile, it’s hard to see the point of a liberal justice leaking the opinion, particularly if they saw Kavanaugh wavering. Let’s also not forget the way Alito tipped the Court’s hand on the Hobby Lobby decision. This lady doth protest too much.
As his pointless dissent on the Mifepristone stay (most recently) demonstrated, he’s a troll, a troll exulting in his ability to really stick it to the libz. And anyone who has dealt with a troll knows that trolls love to lie, mislead, mischaracterize, and insinuate. No one will ever contradict him with contrary evidence, so who’s going to stop him? Certainly not co-conspiring trolls like Josh Blackman.
That's a lot of words to say you don't care if your side keeps trying to murder people they disagree with.
That's exceptionally few words to say that you seem to agree with Alito that everyone who disagrees with his decisions is a potential assasin.
Gotta agree with Simon. Alito’s decisionmaking and opinions are by far the most nakedly political of all the justices. This self-serving “defense” in the WSJ serves only to show that he knows his actions are hurting the court, and why, and that he intends to continue in the same vein.
That’s an exceptionally stupid claim as to what Alito believes.
Since Alito just like week dissented from an important decision on the grounds it was extremely unfair that other justices dissented from his vote on other cases, and that in this interview he is mixing together murder threats and news stories about the court into one salad, I think the argument that the man thinks that any and all disagreement with him is illegitimate and possibly murderous is very strong actually.
If you think that Thomas is the SC’s intellectual leader and Alito is its heart, I am not sure your analysis on other aspects of the SC is likely to be credible.
And for all your snivelling defence of Thomas and Gorsuch (by implication) the fact remains that they failed to disclose benefits of significant value and we should expect a higher standard from SC justices - who should themselves have enough awareness of ethics to know that their disclosures should be beyond the literal text of the law. But perhaps neither Blackman nor Thomas understand the Caesar's Wife principle.
Oh, and it's not as though Thomas only made these omissions once or twice...unless you adopt the Lance Armstrong approach - "I only lied once, though I did repeat the lie".
BTW the WSJ article neglects to mention who called the police on the Kavanaugh "attempted" assassin...
Well you guys claim the Supreme Court is the most rightwing in history and Thomas is the most rightwing judge so logically he'd be the intellectual leader.
Oh...I get it....he's black so according to you he must be dumb and can't possibly be an intellectual leader. Its so nice to see the mask slip off every now and then.
That's...an incredibly dumb parallel. William O. Douglas was the most left wing member of the most left wing Supreme Court in American history, and no one would argue that he was the ideological brain of the court.
As a relatively new reader I really wish this place had an upvote function so one could see if this sort of thing represents the commentariat here or is the outlier one hopes it is.
The commenters tend to be disaffected, bigoted right-wing culture war losers consumed by white grievance, Christian grievance, male grievance, and on-the-spectrum grievance.
Not all of them, but plenty of them, and most of the others stand aside and let the racism, hypocrisy, gay-bashing, religious extremism, misogyny, immigrant-bashing, cowardice, antisemitism, Islamophobia, and disaffectedness reign.
Not a single Conspirator -- these are law professors, some associated with strong, mainstream schools -- will acknowledge, let alone address, the rampant bigotry, belligerent ignorance, and even more bigotry.
This blog has become another stop along the AM radio dial. Cherry-picked, misleading sniping at the modern American mainstream. Bizarre fixations. Faux libertarianism. Complaints that strong campuses are insufficiently hospitable to bigots. Conspicuous disregard of conservative follies.
Tucker Carlson, Jack Teixeira, Steven Crowder, Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Lou Dobbs would be right at home here.
that's enough from you Coach Sandusky!!! Drop and give me 20 (Pushups, not recruits you ass fucked)
So proud of his "Reverend" and "Lawyer" status, but strangely evasive on where he studied, "Howard"?? "Morehouse"?? "Alabama State" "Moe's College of Law & Taxidermy"??
And so quick to dis Josh on his "South Texas" law bonerfides, when it's his hair that deserves heckling...
Frank
That's an amusing mouthful of garbage from our favorite middle-schooler who spends his days and nights in his mother's basement pretending he's a doctor. What's the matter, Frankie, couldn't get anyone to go to the Prom with you? Maybe your sister will go with you.
Most of the bigotry in the Reason comments section would disappear if they moderated it as they do on other sites.
Though, if that happened, where would you go?
“Defence of Thomas and Gorsuch (by implication)”
There are massive differences between those two in any aspect you can name. Your inference is not a reasonable one.
Wouldn’t that make Kavanaugh the Supreme Court’s penis?? And ACB its vagina??
After a few interesting Blackman OPs, it's good to have our old crazy Josh back in the saddle. Any OP that starts with the premise of Thomas being the intellectual leader of the Court is laughable on its face.
If Josh were a sports writer, I assume his columns would go along the lines of, "If the Washington Generals are the best team in basketball history, then . . . ."
“But perhaps neither Blackman nor Thomas understand the Caesar’s Wife principle.”
This saying has a misogynistic background.
Some women including Caesar’s wife Pompeia were celebrating a woman-only religious ceremony. A dude named Clodius crashed the party dressed as a woman. In those days such things were considered sacrilegious, and Clodius was brought to trial.
“Caesar divorced Pompeia at once, but when he was summoned to testify at the trial, he said he knew nothing about the matters with which Clodius was charged. His statement appeared strange, and the prosecutor therefore asked, “Why, then, didst thou divorce thy wife?” “Because,” said Caesar, “I thought my wife ought not even to be under suspicion.””
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/e/roman/texts/plutarch/lives/caesar*.html
Divorcing your wife without evidence of wrongdoing, in order to please the mob and further your political career…that doesn’t convey the same metaphorical meaning you’re assigning to it.
But Caesar's wife has come to mean only that those in positions of authority should avoid even the appearance of impropriety.
The Margrave of Azilia : “Divorcing your wife without evidence of wrongdoing, in order to please the mob… (etc)”
Three Points:
1. Caesar was eager for an excuse to divorce Pompeia, so the idea he was “forced” by the mob is off the mark.
2. Thomas’ sugardaddy was also funneling money to Ginni, so that makes the analogy off the mark further still. Indeed, who in Thomas’ family wasn’t on the dole? The Justice’s wife’s salary was paid for by Crow. The Justice’s mother lived in a house at the indulgence of Crow. The Justice enjoyed all his high living by the mercy of Crow. We haven’t yet heard of Thomas brothers or sisters on the take, but no one could possibly be surprised,
3. What kind of man sells his mother’s house to his sugardaddy with the old lady still inside ?!? Someone eager to keep the cash spigot cranked open wide. Someone with zero self-respect.
"1. Caesar was eager for an excuse to divorce Pompeia, so the idea he was “forced” by the mob is off the mark."
Far be it from me to defend Caesar's honesty, but if your explanation is the right one that's all the more reason *not* to use the Caesar's wife analogy.
Or the analogy is that some people are looking for an excuse to get rid of Thomas because he doesn't think there's a right to kill your own child in the womb and his replacement would probably think there was such a right.
To remove someone from office on ethics grounds, knowing that the replacement would be an assassin, is itself unethical.
Note Magister's comment. There are many expressions whose origins are not quite as benign as current usage, from "grandfather clause" to "blue blood". Current usage is what counts.
As you evidently couldn't address the actual point, the violation of a particular principle, you have effectively conceded it.
Remind me who in politics *does* pass the Caesar's wife test as you interpret it?
Remind me who in politics fails the Caesar’s wife test to the degree of Clarence and Ginni?
(Note : It’s not fair to answer Trump. Sleaze-wise, he’s obviously a special case)
I guess I'll have to defer to your knowledge, since you know them well enough to be on a first-name basis with them.
“and we’re issuing decisions that nobody really believes represent our sincere thinking about the law, but are structured in a way to curry favor, avoid controversy or something like that.”
This is the same Samuel Alito that just last week voted to enact a pretty sweeping change in the way medication regulated in the US using the argumentation that a) other justices were mean to his votes in shadow dockets cases and b) the FDA would just ignore the ruling? Or is it like an evil twin or Soros-operated clone, or maybe the man is suffering from short term loss?
On another topic, "That campaign included unlawful assemblies outside justices' homes, and that wasn't the worst of it. "Those of us who were thought to be in the majority, thought to have approved my draft opinion, were really targets of assassination," Justice Alito says. "It was rational for people to believe that they might be able to stop the decision in Dobbs by killing one of us." On June 8, an armed man was arrested outside the home of Justice Brett Kavanaugh; the suspect was later charged with attempted assassination and has pleaded not guilty.
Leaving aside that the small fact that the man who was arrrested outside Kavanaugh's home called the police on himself and therefore that charging with attempted assasination is massive prosecutorial overkill, the substance of the compliant is just nauseatingly hypocritical. The Supreme Court found that women who want to enter abortion clinics must subject themselves to "sidewalk counselling." The court is about to find that people who get thousands of threatening messages online should just suck it up because free speech, bitch. Congregating with weapons outside libraries or abortion clinics or supermarkets or churches is absolutely legal is protected constitutional activity. So where does Alito get the gall to whine that people are engaging in First and Second Amendment activity in his general environs?
I think you make a good point. We should start gathering together and also expressing our 1st and 2nd amendment rights at the homes of Federal Bureaucrats who routinely oppress and murder us and get away with it.
Maybe we can take nooses and guillotines through the wealthy DC suburbs as a reminder to the Federals that they are supposed to be serving us and we won't tolerate serving them much longer.
"We should start doing things we've been doing for the last three years, and then you'll see !"
Democrats bus protestors to homes of officials.
Republicans have not returned the favor, yet.
But we should. When the people who govern you don’t fear you and believe they will never be held accountable you get what we have today. It will get much worse of we don’t stop it.
The bureaucrats need to be reminded the direction the relationship is supposed to be.
Again, threatening people with stuff you've been doing for 3 years now (armed protests in front of private homes of officials very much included) does not make you seem the terrifying force of nature you see in the mirror.
Are you experiencing some sort of Mandela Effect?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-29/dozens-protest-outside-of-la-health-director-barbara-ferrers-echo-park-home
https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/12/07/943820889/michigan-secretary-of-state-says-armed-protesters-descended-on-her-home-saturday
Yes. We should. "Sauce for the goose, Mr. Saavik."
You already are.
Caesar's goose must be above saucepicion.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I liked it!
Silly, silly BCD. Like Humanoid mentioned, I seem to recall legions of people across the nation stalking outside the homes of doctors, legislators, nurses, school officials, election workers, Congress, and with full tactical gear and weaponry in the state houses of Michigan, Idaho, Oregon...I suppose I should stop here...it's kinda getting embarrassing for you
Ah, but from BCD's position, those were upright citizens, decent law-abiding white folk just like him.
The point of this is clearly an attack by the Democrats on the rule of law.
They dislike that they do not control the court and wish to threaten it into submission.
Good.
Why is it good that Democrats are trying to violently threaten justices to get their preferred outcome in a case?
Actually, it’s good that people are loudly protesting the court, and very bad that a sitting Supreme Court justice is out there making the argument that anyone denouncing him is a potential assassin based on the fact one mentally sick guy called police on himself and got duly indicted for his actions. In fact, given his whining in the abortion pill stay dissent, he clearly feels that fellow justices dissenting from his writing is an action that is no so far removed from assassination, and yet being the awful person that I am, I think legal dissents are fine, actually.
“”but if the courts are being unfairly attacked, the organized bar will come to their defense.”
Instead, “if anything, they’ve participated to some degree in these attacks.” Indeed, the American Bar Association has adopted a resolution calling on the Court to adopt and ethics code. You may think that resolution is neutral, or even salutary. But the leaders in the legal profession are feeding into the “legitimacy” attack.” I see no contradiction between expecting the bar to defend the Court against UNFAIR attacks and the bar’s agreement with the current attacks.
Had you seen the report Robert’s wife made 10 million between 2007 and 2014 before you wrote this? That may also have a bearing on his limp response. Not exactly a Caesar’s wife standard, is it?
lol that's one month for a Biden or Pelosi sibling
No one cares
That’s several days for Bush’s brother who is on China’s payroll to this very day. Remember when you voted for Bush when he was sacrificing thousands of our best and brightest because you enjoyed slaughtering innocent Muslims??
I wonder why Obama escalated the Muslim murdering, given his background and all?
Obama was focused on his domestic agenda and truly believed he would make Republicans happy by continuing Bush’s asinine war against the Taliban. But Republicans are only happy when they are whining and throwing tantrums. Still, Obama handed Trump a very good situation and the GWOT was manageable…and then Trump did the right thing surrendering to the Taliban because we weren’t making any progress.
And you could peer into his heart of hearts and see how pure and full of love he is!
You f'n bootlickers are something else. You can't be a real person, you must be Chat GPT with the way you suck the nuts of Democrats while shitting on Republicans.
What was your reaction when Trump drastically ramped up drone attacks on Muslims when Obama left the WH? And what did you think when Biden more or less shut down the drone attacks program?
Is there something wrong with her making money?
Are you unfamiliar with the specifics here, David?
Just wait. If the Democrats regain the house in 2024 and keep the Senate without Manchin and Sinema, Schumer will get his wish to abolish the filibuster and the good times will roll. With five new progressive justices on the Supreme Court and four new Democrat Senators from the new states of Columbia and Puerto Rico, the Dems will be assured of permanent control of the presidency, Congress, the courts, and the bureaucracy.
We “bitter clingers” (as our local bully likes to call us) can look forward to living in a virtual gulag without jobs, with $hitty healthcare health care, and crappy social services. No doubt we will be marked as domestic terrorists and placed on “do not fly” lists. Heck, they may even institute passports for interstate travel.
So, in your little fantasy:
1. The extra 5 electoral votes that Democrats get from PR (DC already has electoral votes), make the presidency unwinnable for Republicans.
2. Same goes for the extra 7 or so seats both new states get in the House.
3. Conservatives are so economically helpless that Democrats manage to make all of them (something like 40% of all adults) unemployable...without the economy cratering enough for them to lose WI, PA and MI.
And it's the LIBERALS who are snobs who think Real Americans are useless hicks...
What local bully is that?
Ohhh, I get it, the paste eater, right?
“If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Supreme Court, Justice Alito is its heart.”
This is the gayest thing I have ever read.
Have you not seen any recent Bud light or Maybelliene commercials? Nor driven by an FBI office recently?
Yeah there are Pride Parades in the Castro District less gay than this
Don't bring kids into this. That's so gross.
Alito is right. A Democrat leaked it to try and get conservative justices assinated.
It wouldn't surprise me to see the Democrat Administrative State and their bootlickers start murdering people. Historically that's the pattern.
They would have had to murder three people. If one "armed man almost got somewhere near" one Justice is the best the full power of the Democratic administration can do, not much threat to freedom or the safety of the members of the Court.
You keep saying this BCD.
It is clear you wish for that kind of excuse.
You are not going to get it. There will be no hunting of conservatives or reeducation camps.
lol they already are doing that to J6ers, except Epps funnily enough, and Nannas and Granpas who pray in front of abortion clinics.
I pray for Republicans to have children with Down’s Syndrome…such a blessing. The Santorums raw dogging it over 45 years old produced a real blessing…Allah provides!
I tell you right now if they could create an in utero test for LGBTQ or Democrat-tendencies (bootlicking or the whip cracking kind) I would donate so much money to Planned Parenthood they’ll name at least 3 abortion clinics after me. Of course I would never see them since I don’t go to those kind of neighborhoods, lol. I’m too White.
You do realize that’s why Trump supported PP…if Republicans put family planning clinics in Black neighborhoods they would be accused of genocide. Trump’s superpower was just using common sense because Bushism was the most asinine of ideologies.
Why would Republicans put PP clinics in black neighborhoods when Democrats have already done that?
Republicans couldn’t do it…that’s why it’s nuts for Republicans to oppose PP.
I wish for you to have the very same health issues I have. That's my way of saying you should be on the receiving end of any I'll you wish for others. I hope you find a good pain doctor; my life would be a greater misery without the wonders modern pharmaceuticals.
You don't even believe this. Hence your continuing to take refuge in dark predictions.
I don’t believe the FBI raided abortion protestors in excessive ways or that J6ers aren’t being unfairly prosecuted and oppressed?
Are you serious? Now you're trying to gaslight me and what I believe? lol good grief
You don't believe that Democrats are murdering people or putting them into camps.
Hell, I'm not even sure you think J6 are political prisoners. You're not really one to think anything - you feel.
You're angry, and you are saying things written by that anger. But in the end, you're more noise than conviction.
Is this sort of pathological bootlicking of authority a schtick or is that who you really are?
Back at ya.
Question: who will enforce pure blood laws in your utopia, and what kind of footwear they are going to use?
And what precious metals will their toilets be made of?
'you feel.'
He lies.
Nobody is as stupid as you pretend to be, so no, you don't believe those things.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/10/07/fbi-arrests-father-of-11-in-front-of-his-children-for-pro-life-work/
You ignorant bootlicker.
You never know anything.
A father of eleven would never break the law!
The meanest people on the mainstream American left are saying Feinstein needs to be pressured to leave her job. Or that democrats need to end blue slips. And maybe for once ignore a clearly illegal court order.
And these schmucks really truly think concentration camps are imminent.
The FBI had 30 armed agents a boat and a helicopter and a CNN crew to raid Roger Stone.
But yeah live in your fantasy world where the worse that's happening is crying on reddit about Skeletor not voting on mini-PB&Js.
Those FBI agents were ARMED! Whoa, that is big.
You're so lame.
You think that raid on Stone was appropriate?
In a world where local police departments in small towns have massively armed SWAT teams, no, it's not at all exceptional.
It’s not appropriate. But also not exceptional.
I don't know FBI procedures, so I can't really say what is usual. And I have zero experience in law enforcement, so I don't know what's common for an arrest/search.
It may have been too much, but also how the FBI always rolls; they are not known for restraint.
I don't know. You don't know. But you think you know all sorts of things you do not.
I do know FBI agents generally go armed.
They had a gunboat and a helicopter for an unarmed 70-year-old man.
You do you, Sacrastr0, you do you.
I love how you think the left is somehow enamored with the FBI.
Please, Republicans, gut the place. Decommission FISA while you're at it. Fix pre-trial procedures like bail and coercive plea-bargaining. That would be wonderful.
They had a gunboat?
Defund the cops.
I know that frequently non-violent criminals who have been under investigation and are represented by legal counsel are given the opportunity to surrender to the authorities in lieu of being arrested. Sending armed SWAT teams to arrest a non-violent suspect is ludicrous and should be illegal absent some justification.
Ah. You weren't paying attention to the stuff Stone was saying.
No. But then again most American law enforcement tactics are not.
It also wasn’t any worse than things that have been done by law enforcement to people who didn’t even come close to doing something wrong or illegal.
Yeah but you’re NOT Roger stone lol. Roger stone is a notorious l dirty trickster who did the same shit for over 50 years and eventuall finally did some stuff that constituted probable cause for federal agents.
Most people do a LOT less to get the attention of local cops and get in trouble.
You guys are FINE. Holy shit.
There will be no hunting of conservatives or reeducation camps.
But only because left-wingers aren't much into hunting, and right-wingers are such hopeless educational prospects.
Hard to workup much sympathy for Alito's whining. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. His decision had real, and for some fatal, consequences for millions of women. He should have expected some people to have nothing but contempt for him and his cronies.
That one nutcase showed up armed is simply a consequence of the world we live in, including the wide availability of guns.
As for the notion that assassinating Kavanaugh would have blocked the decision, remember, that it was 6-3 and would have gone the same way without him. He would have had to kill 3 people to make it a tie. Of course, that assumes this guy knew how to count. Plus, the loon who set out to commit murder would have had to know when the final vote was taken. Killing a Justice after that would only mean that the decision would have been entered after they died.
As for leaking the draft decision, SO WHAT?
When Congress makes political decisions, it publishes the proposed legislation before the vote. The committee votes are public and the version that reaches a floor vote is public. No reason the Court could not work the same way. Even if it were true that the Court is not political.
Some of us have considered the Court illegitimate for years, so disgust over this particular political behavior is nothing new.
The court is illegitimate, Congress is illegitimate, and the Presidency most definitely is illegitimate.
We're in for a Great Reset alright, just not the Marxist/Democrat kind.
Or life will continue as it has since the founding of the federal government. Three illegitimate branches then, now and as it will be in the future.
I don't think you know much about history. The future won't be anything like the present.
It's going to be better for some, and much much worse for others.
I hope the Democrats don't win so we don't end up as some neo-tech slaves. I pray the good guys win so we can celebrate freedom, natural families, good genes, genetic intelligence, pure blood, and healthy bodies.
Sorry to break it to you buddy: nobody is going to celebrate "pure blood" in the foreseeable future. And I'd wager that your "natural family" isn't inviting you to any family events any time soon, with restraining orders being a non-zero probability.
The idea of "pure blood" was pretty popular in pre-War Germany. Whether that worked out well I suppose is a matter of opinion. Some people think the notion leads to violence. Of course, some people believe that violence in the name of pure blood is a good thing.
There is a small chance he is thinking of "pure blood" in terms of no vaccinations. In which case, polio viruses don't care about his feelings.
He's racist and anti-semitic, so the distinction hardly matters.
" natural families, good genes, genetic intelligence, pure blood, and healthy bodies."
Sounds like a very selective definition of "freedom." What about freedom for all the people who do not fit into this description?
You mean Democrats?
the Normies??? they're happy with bright colors and flashing lights, add a few new "Quick Pick" scratch off lottery tickets and they'll be fine.
(BCD starts humming, "tomorrow belongs to me")
"When Congress makes political decisions, it publishes the proposed legislation before the vote."
You mean in theory, right? You know, the schoolhouse version of how a bill becomes law.
No. The bills are published before they are voted on. That is fact, not school history.
RE: "If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Court, Justice Alito is its heart."
HAHAHAHA I love Josh Blackman. Every day he gets funnier and funnier.
Didn't the Court piss away its legitimacy long, long ago under CJ Taney? Or are we not considering Scott v. Sanford as a landmark case (meant to put a controversy beyond further debate)?
The Court waxes and wanes. We’re in a weird period where the Court is very unpopular and illegitimate to a lot of people but the elected reps aligned with those who most disagree with the current decisions are super old lawyers who think the court a force for good because of the Warren court era they remember
Yeah, Taney’s opinion is what made it bad for Blacks in America. Lol.
Now Bush v Gore opinion actually led to hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims being slaughtered…buh Taney.
Thanks for reminding me why I love Bush v Gore
Obviously Dredd Scott is an awful opinion but the reality is it was crafted to prevent the Civil War and in the grand scheme of things it is fairly inconsequential in light of 4 million Black enslaved when it was decided. So Dredd Scott was one person and 4 million Blacks were enslaved and free Black Americans needed to be realistic that they needed a powerful white friend just in case they were kidnapped by whites as they couldn’t depend on the legal system or anything other than a powerful white person.
I just keep coming to this interview because it's such a gold mine of idiocy. "
""And nobody, practically nobody, is defending us. The idea has always been that judges are not supposed to respond to criticisms, but if the courts are being unfairly attacked, the organized bar will come to their defense." Instead, "if anything, they've participated to some degree in these attacks.""
Basically, change a few words here and there, and he is a student activist calling on the Dean of Diversity and Incusion and Other Good Things to make the campus a safe place for Supreme Court bodies.
I don't know if there has been a bigger partisan tool than Alito in the modern era of the Court.
None of the other 8 can I so easily predict where they will come down. For Alito, I just think of what the most red meat GOP tool would want, and bang there's his chosen outcome. The key is never to consider any single jurisprudential philosophy, just shoot from the hip id.
The other 8, not so much. Y'all may hate Sotomayor, but she seems to have some principles she's going around, and will join some unexpected lineups. Alito, not so much.
Of course Blackman thinks Alito is a moral giant; Blackman sees his own reflection and has fallen in love.
I am no fan of anyone on the other conservatives on the court, but if ever Blackman's "only religious conservatives should get religious freedom" argument gets to the court, Alito is going to be the only one of them to vote for it.
Rehnquist of all people wrote Dickerson. Alito would never.
Also the only time I’ve ever said Alito was absolutely correct and persuasive in real life was a venue decision.
Let's remember the loki rule: if Roberts and Kagan vote the same way, the opinion is correct. If not, the incorrect opinion is one the Alito endorsed.
Nice. Is that from somewhere? I want the cite.
Loki? You know, the guy who used to comment here a lot, and now not so much?
Oh haha got it. Yeah Bernstein accused me of being loki at one point, I guess it makes sense we have a similar sensibility.
I remember Loki (loki13). He was usually pretty reasonable. That was in the volokh.com days, when we had a better signal-to-noise ratio.
Justice Alito says the marshal "did a good job with the resources that were available to her" and agrees that the evidence was insufficient for a public accusation. "I personally have a pretty good idea who is responsible, but that's different from the level of proof that is needed to name somebody," he says.
This was truly a WTF comment for me. If you don't have the proof needed to name somebody, then the only point of saying he has "a pretty good idea who is responsible" is to pat himself on the back and get people to start guessing which "liberal" did it. JFC, what a troll.
Republicans controlled the investigation. They hired a Republican partisan to assist with the investigation. The Republican-preferred outcome prevailed in Dobbs. The Republicans who conducted the investigation have not (publicly) identified the leaker.
Alito concludes from this that the leaker was a Democrat.
Clingers gonna cling.
If Alito is lying about this he should be impeached…I am not a fan of Alito but I am not cynical enough to believe he would lie when he doesn’t really have to.
Justice Alito believes a lot of strange -- even delusional -- things. He may not be lying. He likely is just expressing confidence -- congruent with partisanship -- concerning belief in fairy tales.
If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Supreme Court, Justice Alito is its heart.
If my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather.
But Jumanji Jackson says that she can't tell a woman from a man. So, according to the brainless lefties on the SC, your grandmother might well have been your grandfather.
I remember when yiu claimed to be a philosophy professor and a careful thinker.
Mask got too inconvenient, I guess.
If Blackman can get a job at a bottom-scraping law school, maybe this guy could catch on as an instructor at some shit-rate religious school.
“If Justice Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Supreme Court, Justice Alito is its heart.”
If.
To Professor Blackman: Fraud!
I am no fan of Josh but damn do I love drinking in all the leftist tears in these comments. What a wonderful way to enjoy my Friday evening.
Just stop by a daycare at changing time then at least there’s more of a reason for wailing and tears.
Obviously not a parent. I am. Your comment reveals you as a smirking, virgin ignoramous.
One should never react negatively, and certainly not with tears. Such things have consequences.
I’m reminded of when I was holding my infant son in my arms. I spoke to my wife — and I noticed that whenever I spoke, my son looked at me. It’s an instinctual reaction. I realized just then, that — I should be real careful about what I said around my child, even when he was too young to understand the words. Because he was paying very careful attention.
If lib tears of laughter are your thing, drink up. On Josh’s posts there’s a bottomless reservoir.
joke's on you; i actually love being body slammed by one dozen perfect wrestlers. and my mouth isn't filled with bloodm, it's victory wine.
When leftists respond critically to obviously shitty arguments and rightists applaud them, I guess you have to take your consolations where you can.
Yeah, the leak may have made some of the justices targets for assassination, but that’s just the price we have to pay for the robust protection of Second Amendment rights that these same justices have imposed upon America in contradiction of over 200 years of American jurisprudence. If American school children have to die to protect our liberty to be heavily armed at all times, the least Alito can do is be willing to lay down his life as well.
I haven’t been Justice Thomas’ biggest fan, but I’ve been far from his worst enemy. I’ve agreed with him on a number of points where he’s been an outlier, for example the Dormant Commerce Clause.
But there’s no possible way these gifts could be called token or immaterial. When a Justice has a relationship with a wealthy individual that involves the Justice recieving gifts so valuable they sometimes exceed his salary, there’s just no excuse for neglecting a duty to disclose them, let alone initially disclosing them but stopping after the press starts noticing them, which tends to suggest one is aware they create a bad impression. And that would be so even if the individual or the individual’s family didn’t control businesses with cases before the Court.
Professor Blackman’s efforts to excuse the inexcusable are hackery at its worst. The word “toady” comes to mind.