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"Dating an Actress … Would Not Cause 'Public Hatred,' 'Shame,' [or] 'Ridicule'"
MyPillow founder Michael Lindell loses lawsuit over allegedly false claim that he had a "secret romance with 30 Rock actress Jane Krakowski and wooed her with flowers and champagne."
Libel law requires more than just a showing of false factual allegations about the plaintiff (plus, generally, knowledge/reckless/sometimes negligence as to the falsehood). It also requires that the allegations tend to diminish the plaintiff's reputation, and the decision Friday by Judge Paul Crotty (S.D.N.Y.) in Lindell v. Mail Media Inc. held that this story didn't have that tendency:
Even assuming the romance never happened, the [allegation] would not defame Lindell. Dating an actress—secret or not—would not cause "public hatred," "shame," "ridicule," or any similar feeling towards Lindell. Both Lindell and Krakowski are unmarried adults, and Lindell's alleged actions typify those of a person in a consenting relationship….
Lindell also claims the Article falsely associates him with alcohol because it said he bought Krakowski champagne and other bottles of liquor. That association is indirect at best. The Article never stated Lindell consumes alcohol himself. In fact, it explicitly noted Lindell is sober.
Inferring a step further, Lindell claims the Article still defamed him because he would never buy alcohol or "foist" it on other people after recovering from his own addiction. But whatever Lindell's personal history with addiction, buying alcohol for a dating partner would not reasonably expose him to "public hatred," "shame," or "ridicule." The purchase of alcohol is a legal and ordinary act…. [N]o reasonable reader could find it offensive to exchange champagne or other bottles of liquor as gifts between romantic partners….
Lindell asks the Court to view the Article through the lens of his faith and his redemptive story. He contends "in the context of his profession" as founder of the Lindell Recovery Network, "allegations that he is a hypocrite about issues of Christian morality and alcohol consumption can plausibly allege defamatory meaning." …
[E]ven in the light most favorable to Lindell's claim, the Court cannot find any language in the Article suggesting he is a hypocrite, at least regarding his romantic relationships or his abstention from alcohol. Importantly, the Article does not discuss the Lindell Recovery Network—or more generally, Lindell's work with people struggling with substance abuse—a single time….. The Article is also silent about Lindell's dating history (besides the fact that he has an ex-wife) and his views on relationships. All told, the Article simply does not provide any of Lindell's moral principles to juxtapose against his relationship with Krakowski. In other words, the reader would have no reason to think Lindell's actions would undermine his religious or charitable mission when the reader was never told about that mission in the first place.
In many states, even nondefamatory falsehoods could be actionable as "false light" invasion of privacy, if they are offensive enough. But New York, the relevant state in this case, doesn't recognize a false light theory.
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The defamatory allegation is that he would be interested in that awful, ugly, skank Democrat. That is pretty humiliating.
Bingo.
The judge erred. Whether the article is defamatory or libelous is a question of fact for a jury.
How about the fact that she is disease ridden?
In November 2021, Krakowski had contracted a breakthrough case of COVID-19 despite being vaccinated.
Why on earth would that be relevant?
Hi Eugene! I know that you read the comments from time to time. You can't possibly be surprised that these threads routinely bring up ridiculous, insulting, stupid non sequiturs like this. Sometimes there is a minimal effort to pretend it's related to the OP, but usually not.
You sound like a Democrat, with your idiotic smugness.
Hi David. No, probably more Libertarian than Democrat. Or do you think that LTBF's comment was actually relevant to the case? Since Lindell didn't argue that point, it's not one that could be considered at this time. As to smugness, it's in the eye of the beholder. You regularly express your own strongly held views, repeatedly and with little variation. What makes my post "smug" in a way that yours are not, accept perhaps the level of vitriol?
Your inability to see the irony and the relevance of her Democrat virtue signalling and her still getting sick is stupid of you and of Eugene.
"routinely bring up ridiculous, insulting, stupid non sequiturs like this." is smug.
Wolfefan, Volokh refuses to see the catechism origin of the common law, illegal in our secular nation. He refuses to read Article I Section 1 giving "all" lawmaking power to the Congress, and none to the scumbag lawyer traitors on the Supreme Court. He cannot grasp the utter failure of every self-stated goal of every law subject, and the devastating toxic effect of his profession on our nation. It is 10 times more toxic and damaging than organized crime.
Volokh is a lawyer profession denier.
That adds to the disgrace. Volokh is clueless. Do you know why? He is an irremediable, lawyer dumbass. She did everything the Democrat orthodoxy required, yet is a disease ridden hooer. Lindell should be deeply ashamed of this courtship.
Huh. I guess the Streisand effect can be turned to one's advantage.
You know, that’s a really good explanation why someone might file a lawsuit like this.
One could even imagine a reputation management company that specializes in creating fake gossip articles positioning the client in relationships with celebrities which can then be suitably denied, and then arranging for bogus defamation lawsuits to enable the Streisand effect to maximize their reputational impact.
It might be a very profitable business.
Before "reputation management company" there were newspaper gossip columnists who did the same thing. Watch Sweet Smell of Success.
Goodness, if anything, an allegation of a Hollywood actor dating a prominent right-wing figure is going to cause concrete damages to the Hollywood actor, who will likely suffer ostracization from his/her peers and likely lose work and/or potential work.
I don't know -- Jenna Maroney dated OJ Simpson and thought he was a total gentleman.
On the other hand, she turned down sex with Harvey Weinstein on three occasions (out of five).
I had to look up "Jenna Maroney". I must confess I've never seen an episode of 30 Rock.
Do yourself a favor and watch it on Netflix. I'd argue it is in the top 5 funniest shows in the history of TV.
It helps that Alec Baldwin managed to make it through the series without killing anyone on the set.
Not so fast.
In the "Cutbacks" episode, Liz Lemon says:
"OK, guys, I just want to say congratulations on our 50th show! That's 50 hours of comedy, over 300 sketches, one unsolved crew death, and an Emmy! ... magazine cover story."
[holds up magazine with cover story on "TGS" titled "The Death of Comedy"]
Easy there with the hyperbole. It was ok.
Filing a frivolous lawsuit with ridiculous accusations, however, would cause shame and ridicule. And did.
Lindell really needs to chill out and unwindulax.
Has it been established, with evidence, whether he is still on crack?
Hunter Biden? Yes!
Hunter Biden seems a loser.
Difficult to believe he isn't a registered Republican, unreconstructed bigot, and Volokh Conspiracy fan.
"Both Lindell and Krakowski are unmarried adults, and Lindell's alleged actions typify those of a person in a consenting relationship"
I would think there might still be members of the public out there (including potential jurors) who think fornication is a bad thing, even if they could somehow be insulated from knowledge of Lindell's professed moral standards.
"Secret romance" could just mean holding hands and pitching woo.
You know, that's a good point, the quoted portions of the article don't necessarily suggest fornication, just considerable attentiveness.
A good Christian man doesn’t date in secret.
He dates publicly, so that the lady does not have her intentions and chastity impugned.
And never ever engages in pillow talk.
ISWYDT.
That Lindell sells enough pillows to purchase all of those advertisements -- that there are that many gullible, downscale, dumb Americans -- momentarily gives one pause concerning the future of this country.
Then one recognizes where those pillow-buying citizens live, and how relevant they will be to shaping American progress or our economy, and all that remains is a bit of pity.
how many gullible downscale dumb Amuricans buy lottery tickets? at least with the My Pillow you get a Pillow....
I think we're looking at this all wrong. Clearly the My Pillow guy didn't think enough people knew that he had a fling with a famous actress, so he filed a lawsuit to get more stories written about it. I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.
To paraphrase an old joke:
An old Jewish guy goes into a Catholic confessional:
Old Jewish guy: Father, I have committed the sin of fornication with a famous Hollywood actress.
Priest: Aren't you Jewish? Why are you telling me?
Old Jewish guy: I'm telling everyone!
I can see how someone who considers Donald Trump a model of virtue would feel ridiculed and shamed by an assertion that he has sex with consenting and/or unmarried partners.
I can see how someone who considers Donald Trump a model of virtue
Nobody considers Donald Trump to be a model of virtue anymore than anyone considers Bill Clinton to be one.
If anything, it's Jane K. who should be suing for defamation.
Who would want to be allegedly associated with this nutjob.
According to the tabloid article, the relationship "BAFFLED her friends."
She has flat out denied it ever happened.
I think the rumor started when she gave out My Pillows as holiday gifts to all her friends. I'm sure she got a great deal for buying in bulk. Nothing more.
On rereading this, I thought of Donald Trump and Megan Mullally. She was embarrassed when video proof proof emerged of their prior association.
I should proof proof read before posting posting.
But I LUV Nancy & Beth
So as a matter of law, a man's pursuit of a single actress is not embarrassing enough to be actionable. Makes me wonder: Back in the day, was it defamatory to falsely state that a white man/woman was involved with a black woman/man?
One wonders what kind of law Mr. Lindell's attorney practices when he isn't mangling this type of suit.
Are the defendants seeking fees?
Lindell was represented by attorney-to-the-right-wingers-with-sufficient-discernment-to-avoid-Stephen-Biss-but-still-not-much-class-or-taste: Charles Harder.
And, of course, our own Dilan Esper.
Whatever else you can say about Harder — and I could say a lot, all of which would be protected opinion — one cannot accuse him of being a dilettante. He's experienced in defamation law. Which makes this lawsuit particularly puzzling, except under the obvious check-clearing standard: "I'll sue anyone my client wants if his check clears."
"And, of course, our own Dilan Esper."
Ha ha is that really true? Awesome!
Yes. I mean, I don't know what their respective contributions were, but Harder and Esper are the two attorneys of record.
The defendants wanted fees under NY's new anti-SLAPP law, but the court pointed out that this was procedurally improper. They'll have to file a new suit if they want that, and there's a split of authority as to whether it applies in federal court.
Under my state's law one brings a "special motion to dismiss" and need not choose only one of two remedies (dismissal and attorney's fees).
Yes, but according to this judge (I actually haven't looked into it), that's not how NY's law was drafted.
Who knew there were millions of peoples willing to buy overpriced pillows??, which I thought had already been perfected as much as possible, and now he's expanded into Slippers! can't wait for "My Vibrator", not for myself.
I'm just walking quietly away from that last phrase...
Maybe he'll call the My Vibrator "Patented Phil."