Today in Supreme Court History: June 21, 1989

6/21/1989: Texas v. Johnson is decided.

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[Queen Amalthea]

Remember, free speech and anti-cancel culture warrior Trump pushed a Flag Burning Amendment often.

[Dan Schiavetta]

Also Trump dodged the draft. IIRC the man who burned the flag in that case was a combat veteran.

[DaivdBehar]

Trivial speech case. Your Democrat kind burned down our cities, and were immunized by the traitor prosecutors.

[Sarcastr0]

The best way I've ever seen the various heresies explained is to picture the ratio of God to Man in Jesus as if it was instead Man to Horse.

The mainline (Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant, hashed out at Chalcedon in 451) conception of Jesus would thus be like Donkey from Shrek. Is he a donkey? Yes. He has the form, the mannerisms, the appetites. But he is also a human, with a human mind, language and understanding. He is both, as one, inseparable.

Monophysitism's conception instead would be a Centaur. Both man and horse, together, but not quite either, instead Jesus was something different and unique and it was pointless to argue over the exact ratio. (Monophysitism was an attempt to find a compromise everybody could agree was good enough, to stop the constant theological infighting.) Where this ran into heresy compared to the mainline is that it's pretty easy to argue that a centaur is less than human and less than horse.

Nestorianism's conception was of a horse and rider. There is a full man, and a full horse, moving together as one, but fundamentally separate. When we killed Jesus, we drove a lance through the horse and then thought we killed the whole thing.

Arianism meanwhile would be like a statue of a horse. Is it a horse? No, it's not even made of the same stuff, it just looks like one. But it's not a man either, though you can see the work man did to create it. Jesus was thus a specific and unique creation of God to satisfy the requirements He decided on.

Gnosticism would be a man wearing a horse costume. There was no horse, only the appearance of one. God can't become a human any more than a human can become a horse. As such, the Crucifixion and all related things were an illusion, as if you saw the costume catch on a corner and tear, so you begin crying that the horse was injured.

[bernard11]

Excuse me, Sarcastro, but does this have something to do with Texas v. Johnson?

Or, having been cheated out of an open thread last week - I demand a refund - are you trying to hijack this one?

[Sarcastr0]

The second.

In general, when I have something off topic it'd be cool to share and I don't wanna wait till Thurs, I use these roboposts.

And nothing of value was lost.