Hot Takes Are Making the Ukraine Invasion Worse
Our political and media elites should think twice before they swarm social media like Russian tanks driving deep into Ukraine.
HD DownloadWhenever something Earth-shattering and awful happens, we've come to expect grifters, celebrities, and attention whores to go to the mattresses with the dumbest and most-self-obsessed takes imaginable.
That's all well and good—Viva free speech!—but we shouldn't stand for that from the "serious" people—the activists, media figures, and policymakers who keep telling us how smart, informed, and wise they are.
That's especially true when we're talking about actual war.
So here's a word to the would-be wise: You don't have to serve up glib, instamatic replies that would make Joy Behar wince in the hopes of building a consensus for your pre-existing obsessions.
The Democratic Socialists of America—whose ranks include Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.)—don't have to rush into print to blame America first when Russian President Vladimir Putin defies international law.
Former Wisconsin governor and perennial Republican presidential contender Scott Walker doesn't have to turn a hot war into a hot take about Joe Biden and immigration, of all things.
Supposedly sober journalists like NBC's Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel don't have to float trial balloons about blowing up Russian convoys and starting World War III.
John Kerry—Joe Biden's special envoy for climate change—doesn't have to drag the topic immediately back to the melting Arctic ice pack.
State liquor authorities in Virginia, Oregon, Utah, Ohio, and New Hampshire don't have to rush to ban Russian alcohol from store shelves.
Democratic members of Congress like Rep. Eric Salwell don't have to propose "kicking every Russian student out of the United States" right this very moment. And Republicans like Rep. Adam Kinzinger can just say no to no-fly zones that would absolutely be an act of war.
War hysteria is a real thing and it drives decent people to stupidity, madness, and worse. When America declared war on Germany during World War I, people all over the country killed dachshunds out of patriotic fervor.
Walter Jones was the North Carolina congressman who got the House cafeteria to rename french fries as "freedom fries" after France refused to join our 2003 invasion of Iraq. Within a couple of years, he regretted not just his culinary intervention but his support for Operation Iraqi Freedom and spent the rest of his life apologizing for a catastrophic military action based on bad intelligence.
War is complex and filled with unexpected outcomes. Will the rush, say, to cut everyday Russians out of the global economic system have its intended effect, or will it simply increase the scale of human suffering and the resolve of the aggressor? Past wars teach us the folly of quick decisions and courses of action informed by bad information and emotion.
Our elites—especially our elected leaders—can leave the glibness to the rest of us and maybe, just maybe, think before they swarm social media like Russian tanks driving deep into Ukraine.
Written and narrated by Nick Gillespie. Edited by Regan Taylor.
Photo Credits: Robin Jerstad/ZUMAPRESS/Newscom; Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/Newscom; Brian Cahn/ZUMAPRESS/Newscom; JEMAL COUNTESS/UPI/Newscom; Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/Newscom; DavidBailey, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons; Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call/Newscom; Peabody Awards, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons
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https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1499734684879704067?t=nJIZZ263D5vBbr2ybXhkwA&s=19
Last night the Ukrainian government fomented mass hysteria by claiming that a nuclear reactor was being shelled—the world's stenographers recklessly broadcast the lie. Today the stenographers are making it look as though the hysteria they amplified was about a plant being seized.
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Yeah those articles seemed a bit rich, like Russia doesn't know what happens inside a nuclear reactor.
Or outside one.
The articles I read said there was a fire at an onsite training facility, and armor rolled in as soon as it was put out. Nothing I read said any reactors were attacked.
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1499563012998545410?t=Disgo_x2_klSPFWeKso1HQ&s=19
Zelensky issues an urgent new message warning that Russian artillery fire at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant risks a nuclear radiation catastrophe that threatens the entire continent. “You know the word Chernobyl,” he says grimly.
This is not one of his regular war updates. He’s not at the podium. He’s clearly recording himself with a mobile phone, sitting at his desk, presumably in his bunker in Kyiv. Chilling.
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Right. Power plant attacked. Risk if reactors attacked. Reactors not attacked. The end. What's the big deal?
The “big deal” is that Ukraine is lying to get NATO involved.
Can’t say I blame them. Biden’s lying was one of the things that got them invaded in the first place.
you want liar?
Heres one, a Radical Liberal in Libertarian clothing :
"Within a couple of years, he regretted not just his culinary intervention but his support for Operation Iraqi Freedom and spent the rest of his life apologizing for a catastrophic military action based on bad intelligence."
Thats the Trademark Democrat Bush hater LIE about no WMDS in Iraq.
The UNMOVIC said there were. Their Inspectors found some in Baghdad May 2003 iirc as recorded in the UNMOVIC Iraq Compendium.
That was after 10 + years of Hussein making illegal chem weapons and firing 110 THOUSAND on Iran, and having been caught lying about manufacturing them
Shallow radical Progressive Globalist DEMOCRATS like Reason dont care that Hussein committed war crimes including murdering his own people so long as they can spew politically motivated hate based lies.
They take Bushes statement that large stockpiles of chem weapons werent found, and his refusal to apologize or kow tow to the Radical Left Media as license to twist the facts.
ONE chemical weapon is a WMD. It doesnt take finding truckloads.
To Reason, mass murder is OK as long as its covered up?
If Iraq was a quagmire it was bc Obama stayed there years after the UN and US called it " over" in 2007 and got caught lying about sending more troops, and Pallets of Cash to our enemies. A European paper ran an expose on the 3000 troops Oliar secretly sent in. The site was
' politicalcraft' or something like that.
But Obama worshippers conveniently ignore that....its just Blame Bush.
PS " no WMDs" was the twin lie to " Bushes War", twice a Lie.
Presidents dont make war, Congress does, exposing the Communist idealogs pushing that lie, and Iraq was an Internationally sanctioned real war, with the UN Allies. Not the US.
Why Communists like the writers here at Reason hate it is that WE WON.
On the plus side, it used to take months or years for people to find out what a bunch of b.s. they were fed; in many cases, they never found out and never even had access to the information.
These days, such propaganda and misinformation lasts about a day and the propaganda machine quickly changes course because they have to. That's progress.
It's also why progressives and the media are scared shitless and foaming at the mouth: they pretty much unlimited power to manipulate they used to enjoy is disappearing before their eyes.
These days, such propaganda and misinformation lasts about a day
Give or take two years.
It’s a big shrug for Apple shareholders. We’re supposedly on the brink of WW3, and shareholders voted for a “civil rights audit”.
The intersectional victims are at war with each other.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/shareholders-want-apple-to-audit-its-treatment-of-women-minority-employees/ar-AAUCMzz
Hot takes. Like a certain reason editor saying we should just airlift all Ukrainians out of Ukraine and then locking down her Twitter account due to backlash?
To be fair, the Reason Fiona-bot was programmed to spew just one theme.
I admit this to be a vague intelligence-y gut feeling but it seems like the Fiona airlift-bot and the slash-Canadian-truckers-tires bot are running on the same basic framework.
#FionaOnFire
Does Scotty know?
I guess Scotty doesn’t know.
Wait, someone seriously suggested that?
Less Nogales and more spit takes.
‘Hot takes’……. Fucking auto correct.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1499745836552630272?t=3Lx4x_yGlCgDFnfJIid1Yg&s=19
I'm proud to be associated with several of the handful of growing social media and news platforms that reject the hubristic view that its duty is to anoint itself arbiters of truth and falsity, and then censor the internet at the behest of DC Democrats and the US Security State.
The internet is valuable only if it remains free from centralized state and corporate censorship. if not, it becomes history's most potent tool of coercion and surveillance. These independent outlets are vital for liberating the internet, and our discourse, from Big Tech tyranny.
I don't disagree with Greenwald's take here, but I strongly suspect at this point that the whole reason the internet was actually released into the wild by DARPA to being with was so that it could be exploited as an international surveillance tool by the intel agencies, just as the FBI tracked library book checkout lists or conducted illegal phone taps.
You get billions of people to freely expose themselves and their personal information online, and throw in the rubber-stamp nature of the FISA process, and you have a tool that's ripe for abuse by the government. Greenwald's idealism is commendable, but his interaction with Snowden and his documentation of how the surveillance agencies use their pets in the media to broadcast propaganda should have disabused him of the reality a long time ago.
Put it this way--it's not really an accident that the CIA's venture capital arm, In-Q-Tel, has provided venture capital to Silicon Valley for a generation now.
You're not wrong.
All tech (all things really) are good and bad.
My hope for the internet is that sheer mass is enough to overcome its utility for surveillance and such, but that hope looks less likely to be/come true everyday.
Featute and Bug. depending on whether youre NSA or not.
If not intentional, the Govt has found it convenient to use the Net for just that purpose.
"Volunteers"
https://twitter.com/BowenBBC/status/1499621073473708032?t=tZlKRz_pWXbOsDaOzEK2RA&s=19
18 year old Ukrainian volunteers off to war in Kyiv. Three days training and they will be on the front line.
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https://twitter.com/DrClaytonForre1/status/1499221312363016199?t=AE7o-1aCsP8Wy8oDJOvoag&s=19
If the globalists can steal a billionaire's yacht with no due process, they can easily steal your home, your Prius and your savings account.
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https://twitter.com/OmarAlghabra/status/1499472158996803585?t=J27Is5X6Ni3SNgKslzMc9w&s=19
A charter aircraft that carried Russian foreign nationals has been held at the Yellowknife airport. We will continue to hold Russia accountable for its invasion of Ukraine.
Ironically here we steal from people who are too poor to fight it.
It’s literally happening and has been happening and both judges and attorneys have no qualms doing it. It’s going to get a whole life worse soon though and people can take so much.
I think this administration and others believe they can unify this country with a war and they’ve grossly underestimated - more likely have ignored- the fact they’ve made that impossible.
Americans have lost a common purpose and anyone with half a brain or an ounce of true empathy should understand or recognize they are making Putin look like the reasonable one with these tactics.
Whole “lot”worse..
People can only take so much..
I'm getting the feeling that for some people, a ceasefire in Ukraine would be the most disastrous news they could hear.
are those people named Biden/Harris?
Among others, yes.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force--as if a million Twitter bluechecks cried out in anguish, and suddenly lost their preference cascade."
Lol
"Whenever something Earth-shattering and awful happens, we've come to expect grifters, celebrities, and attention whores to go to the mattresses with the dumbest and most-self-obsessed takes imaginable.
That's all well and good—Viva free speech!"
Huh? That's not what the wise censors at FB and on college campuses have told us. What's truly good is not having to read or hear things that might challenge our ideologies or make us sad.
Free speech is racist!
Huh? That's not what the wise censors at FB and on college campuses have told us. What's truly good is not having to read or hear things that might challenge our ideologies or make us sad.
A couple years ago, a left-wing buddy of mine posted an anti-gun piece on FB that was parroted by an old school acquaintance of ours. When I pushed back on the latter's presumptions and showed the flaws in his logic, he got completely assmad, complained that I was "long-winded" (presumably because I offered a nuanced refutation rather than a strawman that he could mock), and then tried to psychoanalyze me as having been traumatized because I didn't agree with his dumb left-wing NPC comments.
After I basically laughed in his face and mocked his lame deflections like I did with White Mike on his dumb middle-school-level social maturity, my buddy actually called to apologize that the acquaintance had been such an asshole.
Literally nothing these idiots say can be taken in good faith.
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1497747535783411714?t=moOmjMmNmy06HX6PcE5T4A&s=19
Watch Yevhen Karas the leader of Ukraine's neo-Nazi terror gang C14's speech from Kiev earlier this month. Straight from the horses' mouth, he dispels the many narratives pushed by the left, the mainstream media and the State Department.
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I also noticed a lot of idiots there attacking Israel and trying to draw false equivalence between Ukraine guerrilla fighters and Palestinian terrorists.
https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1499430536321941516?t=e6uMbRAS32w4SeYvgByZmw&s=19
White House is asking for $10 Billion for Ukraine and $22.5 billion for pfizer and moderna all rolled into one emergency supplemental. Watch Republicans support it. The average American just doesnt matter.
“War hysteria is a real thing and it drives decent people to stupidity, madness, and worse. When America declared war on Germany during World War I, people all over the country killed dachshunds out of patriotic fervor.”
This is where I draw the fucking line people.
Me too. Assuming that 'out of patriotic fervor' means 'the country' refers to America, on one side of line is the "Keeping dachshunds is dumb." group and the other side is the "That's some funny shit." group.
I wonder, if it were widely reported that animals, wild and domestic, could contract and spread COVID, how many people would've euthanized their animals or kept them locked in their homes.
See: Australia.
They didn't kill the dogs because the dogs had covid, they killed the dogs because people who may or may not have had covid wanted to leave their homes to adopt and pick them up.
Also, Fauci killed thousands of puppies.
I favor summary execution for the perpetrators.
Something Reason writers should take to heart!
https://www.nextgov.com/cio-briefing/2022/03/russias-invasion-will-boost-2023-defense-budget-top-democrat-says/362747/
Never allow an opportunity to enrich the MIC go to waste
Love how they pulled "10-20" years out of their asses. That must be some budget shortfall they can conveniently plug in that needed that much funding.
The American people were overwhelmingly against entering WWI, until they were manipulated into it by US government propaganda.
And you are a willing participant in the current propaganda campaign to get America involved in the war in Ukraine with b.s. articles talking about "Inspiring support for Ukrainian freedom".
On the day Russia invaded, 74% opposed the US having a major role in the war.
Now?
US senators are recommending assassination and people are arguing that nuclear war isn't really that big a deal.
https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2022/03/03/is-a-russia-nato-clash-over-ukraine-ahead/
Pat Buchanan. Obviously Putin propaganda
Russians put Putin power and now they will have to live with the consequence's. Just like when we put libs in power in our cities who took advantage of us during the pandemic; we also must accept what happens when we sit around and do nothing. If Russians don't want to be hated around the world, then fight for change in their country.
That's really what the stupid political and media elites in the West actually think. It is so far removed from reality that it is laughable.
The Russians don't want Europe and the US to piss all over them, which is what Europe and the US have been doing for the past 30 years. That is fundamentally why this war is happening and why Putin is actually pretty popular.
Cognitive dissonance at its best and on display here.
Should’ve done this
should’ve done that
shouldn’t have done this or that,
could’ve done this or that….
It’s a never ending litany of statements like this that prove true empathy is an extremely rare trait.
COMMENT OF THE DAY !
The Democratic Socialists of America—whose ranks include Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.)—don't have to rush into print to blame America first when Russian President Vladimir Putin defies international law.
Yes they do. You don't join a communist organization to support freedom.
Salwell; the fucker of Chinese spies and the advocate of nuking US citizens? THAT Salwell?
How the fuck does this imbecile keep his job?
The more I read Reason, the more my decision to avoid (anti)social media is confirmed.
A comment section is social media my dude.
Shit. Now you tell me!
No, its more than 140 characters and puppy and kitty pics !
/ sarc
And I expect better from reason than vapid virtue signaling, yet this "article" was still published.
https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1499822333166563333?t=vQUM1JGU8TWqrvxh37U-MQ&s=19
Now that everybody is distracted, the individuals and organisations who screwed you over, lied to you daily, and shat all over your freedoms & rights for the past 2 years will not be held accountable for their wrongdoing.
They will get away scot free. And it wasn't even hard.
"Hot Takes Are Making the Ukraine Invasion Worse"
Worse for who Nick?
Talk about glib people who should probably have kept their mouths shut...
I am NOT for guilt-tripping ourselves, but we NEED THE TRUTH!
BUT CANCEL RUSSIA. That means ALL RUSSIANS. The West's response to Russia needs to be a DIKE not a SIEVE. Make them pariahs - let them know what it is like to be a leper. Facilitate Putin's fall from power. Don't do ANYTHING to give them respite. Are the Ukrainians getting any comfort from Putin? The message is clear, if your leaders disrupt the world order, you will eat shoe leather.
Eh, make the Russian oligarchs and government apparatchiks into pariahs, but what did regular Russian citizens do, exactly?
Also, canceling Dostoevsky or the animated movie Anastasia is probably going more than a little too far.
I guess Colossus won’t be in Deadpool 3 now.
Well, get your pussy ass on over there and fight.
Do you know what it feels like to be a “leper”?
Do you even hear yourself?
It’s comments like this that scare me the most!
Congratulations, you are one step closer to actively taking a part in or cheering on, the actual genocide of people.
"Our elites—especially our elected leaders—can leave the glibness to the rest of us and maybe, just maybe, think before they swarm social media like Russian tanks driving deep into Ukraine."
What does crashing a social media account into a muddy ditch look like?
Also, do i need to start getting Freedom Dressing to make a Reuben?
Good points, but turn down the music.
"Echoing the anti-German sentiments expressed through the use of dachshunds in political cartoons, advertisements and postcards, it was reported that some dachshunds on the home front were actually the victims of violence themselves. Author Graham Greene was a schoolboy in Berkhamsted in Hertfordshire at the outbreak of World War One, and recorded much later in his autobiography,(‘A Sort of Life’, published in 1971), the anti-German hysteria experienced in his home town, during which a dachshund was reputedly stoned in the high street. Though reports of this kind have been repeated, and have somewhat entered into World War One folklore, actual documented cases of dachshund-stoning in Britain seem to be rare."
While I do think Americans would behave any better than Brits, I was unable to find any mass attacks on these little doggies in America. Perhaps the author got carried away in the hysteria of war.
Before anyone even thinks of going after Russian breeds, I must say that in over four and a half months in Russia I don’t recall seeing a single Borzoi. The most popular breeds, based on what I saw were Wire Haired Fox Terriers, Standard Poodles and Boxers. THOSE, gentlemen, are our targets—AFTER THEM!!!! (Actually, NO! I love all three and actually grew up with a Wire Haired Fox Terrier.)
I have no sympathy for mass murderers or their Little Dogs.
That many modern Germans dont either seems apparent in their hesitancy to get involved in " this"
"...but we shouldn't stand for that from the "serious" people—the activists, media figures, and policymakers who keep telling us how smart, informed, and wise they are..."
We sure should; how else would we find out how stupid they are?
The problem with TDS, politicians, media and noble laureate economists lying constantly or pushing a narrative makes everyone distrust the media and economists.
The boy who cried wolf eventually sees a wolf.
Presented without comment. https://t.co/qtYwNKa3IK
Refugee candidate, or nah?
https://twitter.com/ClintEhrlich/status/1499934121853812740?t=EGpvPYWoVy5W533mMDOFcQ&s=19
The life of another "disloyal" lawmaker is under threat in Ukraine.
Nestor Shufrych was detained on questionable charges by vigilantes and handed over to Ukraine's security services.
Photos of him in custody imply he was threatened with beheading.
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Officially, Mr. Shufrych, a People's Deputy of Ukraine, was arrested for taking photos of a Ukrainian checkpoint.
It is claimed, implausibly, that he was acting as a spy passing information to the Russians.
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In reality, it's clear that his detention is based on his politics.
That was made obvious in his rough interrogation by Ukraine's successor to the KGB (the SBU).
Here, he's being threatened for public statements in which he called for an end to the war in Donbas.
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Watch that video again and remember that this is a sitting member of Ukraine's parliament.
Imagine if a CIA officer were throwing around an anti-war Congressman the same way.
When people like @TulsiGabbard say Ukraine isn't a democracy, this is what they mean.
"International law" is whatever the US and Europe want it to be at any time and in any situation.
The US and Europe fail to live by their own supposed rules constantly. "International law" is only dusted off when they have some agenda.
Oh fuck off. Every nation fails to live by its own supposed rules constantly. That's government. It's a shit sandwich, and the only rule is, the less of it the better.
Putin's the asshole here. Plain and simple.
Former Wisconsin governor and perennial Republican presidential contender Scott Walker doesn't have to turn a hot war into a hot take about Joe Biden and immigration, of all things.
Amusingly Reason writes this even as it turned a hot war into a hot take for immigration.
Thats called Sleight of Hand...or Keyboard.
Thats Radical Prog Leftist stuff.
They hold onto The Agenda like Mr Burns old sewer - soaked, torn and tatteted teddy bear.
You just want grandma- I mean, Ukrainians to die!
Putin really, truly had NO choice, other than to invade Ukraine, because lawless anti-authority scum in the USA are blowing upon cheap plastic "lung flutes" without permission, dammit!!!
If you love peace and Ukrainians, you will STOP this senseless law-breaking!!!
To find precise details on what NOT to do, to avoid the flute police, please see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/DONT_DO_THIS/ … This has been a pubic service, courtesy of the Church of SQRLS!
It was trespassing, after all.
Like Iran did to the Ukrainian commercial airliner two years ago, killing about 180ppl?????
Maybe you or your family will be sitting on the next plane ✈️ that some deranged idiot decides should be shot out of the sky…..
Jeffy would approve.
Thank God the women of Ukraine aren't armed and committing suicide. That would just be horrible if they could choose to defend themselves.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4822326/russian-troops-accused-of-raping-numerous-women/
Why aren't the women armed?
"I don't understand"
The only thing you ever posted that was true.
Neither event was based on real votes.
SLAM !!