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Remy: People Will Die!

Remy channels his inner Elizabeth Warren to vilify the other side.

Written and performed by Remy
Music mastered by Ben Karlstrom
Video by Meredith Bragg

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LYRICS:

People need kidneys, it's sad but decreed
yet this Senator's hoarding one more than she needs
I offer this bill and I hope you'll vote "aye"
Unless, of course, you just want PEOPLE TO DIE!

Traffic deaths have many crying with fear
Over 30,000 people are dying each year
this modest change I propose must be applied
Unless, of course, you just want PEOPLE TO DIE!

Alcohol deaths are exceeding comparisons
Black people, white people, Native Americans
We need to ban alcohol, it can't be denied
Unless, of course, you just want PEOPLE TO DIE!

Murders are bad. They have no defenders
yet many are committed by repeat offenders
I say lifetime in prison, whatever the crime
unless, of course, you want PEOPLE TO DIE!

So I don't have a bill, or a groan to detail
I just need a short clip for my donor email
Tim THERE'S BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS! YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE!
That good? Cool. Tim, dinner at five? Yeah.

These car deaths I mentioned are terrible stuff
It just doesn't seem that one seatbelt's enough
Either vote for my act so that fewer will cry
Unless, of course, you just want PEOPLE TO DIE!

The carbs. The container. We cannot ignore
Whipped cream's killing more people than ever before
This bill would be passed and be ratified
if those people there didn't want PEOPLE TO DIE!

Why not weigh all the costs, the effects, the results
Empathize with each other as if we were adults
Use our brains to craft arguments--not vilify
See that freedom's a trade-off--YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE!

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  • PurityDiluting||

    So the govt can't regulate away all causes of death and make us immortal? Sad

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Not that many guys vernments, going all the way back to Gilgamesh, haven't tried. Frankly, Gilgamesh's efforts to wrng the secret of immortality from the gods strike me as more to the point than anything the current bunch have tried. OTOH , I can't seemany of the present batch of superannuated pols going on a Heroic Quest....

  • WakaWaka||

    "Noted Alt-right Provocateur, Remy, Makes Racist Video Mocking Those Impacted by Right-wing Policies"

    - Slate

  • Michael Hihn||

    "Reason goobers say, Huh?"

    Waka waka is an idiot. By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago, It even provided universal TREATMENT, versus 20% uninsured among Medicaid eligibles.

    Thank GOD, libertarians have spent 50 years teaching us that private charity delivers better than government.
    Oh wait, the anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarians are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of the private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.

    Instead, goober libertarians will decide where the money goes. Because free markets,
    From their smug moral superiority, free market slogans and soundbites are superior to free market OUTCOMES (for the past 450 years).

    Remind me. How do they differ from all the other authoritarians? Ahhh, better slogans.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Attention goobers: Sorry, I should have stated that this was sarcasm

    "Reason goobers say, Huh?"
    Waka waka is an idiot. By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago,

    Non-goobers donl't need to be told.

  • ||

    Did you just respond to yourself?

  • Michael Hihn||

    (sneer) That's how one ADDS to a comment, after it's been posted, Dufus ... errr Rufus

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    You complain about verbal aggression a lot, but this whole response chain was just unprovoked verbal aggression on your part.

  • Michael Hihn||

    You complain about verbal aggression a lot, but this whole response chain was just unprovoked verbal aggression on your part.

    In my own defense ... you're full of shit. I never complain. Just explain my self-defense, for those easily confused, such as yourself. Respond. Include ridicule where appropriate. Like here.

    6.29.17 @ 6:42AM = satire

    6.29.17 @ 7:14AM = addendum to my own comment. Included: "Non-goobers don't need to be told."

    6.29.17 @ 1:02PM = legitimate response to silly question Was it silly? Already answered..

    Anything else?

  • SQRLSY One||

    Mike the Hihnister One wrestles himself down into the murky mud and mire, then declares Himself to be a "Victim"... Beyond being a "Victim" of His Own Smugness, there's NOTHING new to be seen here, so move along now...

    More smugness at 11:00 !!!

  • MarkLastname||

    "Dufus"
    Awwww what a burn!

    Now tell us the new list you demented old loon!

  • Chipper Morning, Now #1||

    Haha, awesome. This is one of Remy's best. Love the quick cut to Warren when he mentions Native Americans.

  • Juice||

    Yup. Came here to say that. This one is gold.

  • ||

    That really was a clever dig right in the face of that Professor Pocahontas in glasses and a wig!

  • Chipper Morning, Now #1||

    Animal abuse, it's simply terrible,
    SIV in the chicken coop, it's not a parable,
    My rule requires the dick lashed to the thigh,
    Unless, of course, you just want ROOSTERS TO DIE!

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Wonderful! My hat is off to you for that fine versification.

  • Chipper Morning, Now #1||

    All of these arguments, things get so personal,
    Commenters emptying their locutory arsenal,
    Naught's settled till Tony and Hihn testify,
    Unless, of course, you just want ALL THREADS TO DIE!

  • Citizen X - #6||

    You've been lurking in the Libertarian Voter thread, haven't you.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Is there a wiki I could read to make sense of Hihn's posts? Because I just do not understand what he is yelling.

  • Michael Hihn||

    make sense of Hihn's posts? Because I just do not understand what he is yelling.

    Because you're a fucking slaver. A lost cause.. Hopeless.

    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6887912

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Yes, I've read what you wrote. But you don't clearly represent your thoughts so it is difficult to get what you are saying.

    I am presuming you are sarcastic when you say, "the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear."

    But then you accuse libertarians of stealing the money for themselves. Which I don't understand. What libertarian stance are you associating that with. Because it seems like you would be in agreement with most people here, that people should decide what to do with their money. So I don't understand what you are criticizing.

    Finally, "What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government." Are you attempting to say that any government action is justified as long as it comes from elected action?

    I am attempting to engage with your for real, by the way. So I would love to have clarification on your points without being accused of violent aggression.

  • Michael Hihn||

    But you don't clearly represent your thoughts so it is difficult to get what you are saying.

    The problem may be yours, since you falsely accusing me of aggression above. (proof linked at end)

    I am presuming you are sarcastic when you say, "the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear."

    You assume I MIGHT believe that magic can restore hundreds of billions of private care infrastructure instantly?

    But then you accuse libertarians of stealing the money for themselves. Which I don't understand.

    The infrastructure you just mentioned. Medicaid spending was taken from the free choices of donors, for charitable healthcare. Repeal Medicare and the ONLY libertarian end-game is to return those dollars to their original free market outcome. NOT impose their own preferences on where to shift dollars.

    This is influenced by their SHAMEFUL refusal to accept tens of millions of decisions in a free market -- further related to anti-gubmnint libs being authoritarian.

    What libertarian stance are you associating that with.

    The sole topic on this page! Allowing people, to die ... against the express wishes of the people in a free market.

    Cont'd

  • Michael Hihn||

    Cont'd Part 2

    Because it seems like you would be in agreement with most people here, that people should decide what to do with their money.

    Wrong people AND the wrong people. THIS money exists from SPECIFIC people whose SPECIFIC choices are denied

    Finally, "What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government." Are you attempting to say that any government action is justified as long as it comes from elected action?

    How do you justify minority rule? Or ANY other alternative?
    Do you support anti-gummint libs who demand control WITHOUT being elected? In my dictionary, that's authoritarian. You're dictionary?

    I would love to have clarification on your points without being accused of violent aggression.

    I won't here. But proved above
    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6888911

    I NEVER accuse anyone of violent aggression, which would be crazy, VERBAL aggression is the same mentality. Bully, Authoritarian, etc.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    LOL, you certainly are nothing without your strawmen, Hihnarrea.

  • Michael Hihn||

    TEN ASSAULTS ON THIS PAGE!

    Red Rocks Baiting n
    LOL, you certainly are nothing without your strawmen, Hihnarrea.

    Sticks and srones may break ,my bones, buy childish names will never hurt.

    Now --- be a man -- tell is what you claim is a strawman -- so I can jam it up your ass.
    Again

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Sticks and srones may break ,my bones, buy childish names will never hurt

    "THAT'S WHY I REPEATEDLY SHRIEK IN PERPETUAL ASSPAIN WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T TAKE MY SHITPOSTS AT FACE VALUE!!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    Dumbfuck gets crazier by the hour!

    He quotes me:

    Sticks and stones may break ,my bones, buy childish names will never hurt me

    THEN PROVES ME RIGHT!

    THAT'S WHY I REPEATEDLY SHRIEK IN PERPETUAL ASSPAIN WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T TAKE MY SHITPOSTS AT FACE VALUE!!

    Was he shrieking is asspain ... as he composed a shit post? (snort)

    He's fueling his own death spiral.
    1) He launches an aggression.
    2) I either jam it up his ass if he's wrong ... or ridicule when he's crazy.
    3) He flies into an intense rage. Another assault
    4) Demolished or ridiculed again.
    5) Escalates. MORE rage.

    See, his own #1 is causing all his pain in #3. I'm just the middleman.
    It's like punching himself in the face ... harder and harder until it stops.
    THAT would continue forever. So far, he's been stalking me for just a fem months, punishing me for an earlier self-inflicted wound.

    He can't even do ridicule. He tried to ridicule me, I think (who could know?) .. and ridiculed himself.

    Which is why he qualifies as a goober.

    Uh-oh ....

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Hihnarrea losing his shit in real time, everyone! Watch projection in action!

    (cartwheels away cackling)

  • MarkLastname||

    "I am attempting to engage with your for real."
    Boy are you in for a treat.

  • Michael Hihn||

    "I am attempting to engage with your for real."
    Boy are you in for a treat

    HYSTERICAL., I jammed his bullshit up his ass ... exactly as I've done to you. Do you two travel in a pack like wild dogs?

    (Your fellow sanctimonious blowhard)"." I would love to have clarification on your points without being accused of violent aggression."

    (Me jamming it up his ass. First. Now you.) "I won't here. But proved it above"
    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6888911

    Were you a psycho liar to post HIS lie? (Would that be bullshit squared?)
    Or too stupid to realize you'd humiliate yourself again? Perhaps both?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WATCH ME INDULGE MY ANAL FIXATION AFTER A SIX HOUR NAPPY!! REEEEEEEEEEE!!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    MOAR AGGRESSION (yawn)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WHEW IT TOOK ME ALL DAY TO WHINE ABOUT AGGRESSION LIKE A MEWLING PUSS!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    CHILDISH NAME-CALLING

    TO WHINE ABOUT AGGRESSION LIKE A MEWLING PUSS!

    Do pussies do THIS?

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Captain Hihnsane-O the Spambot King.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Reason goobers CHEER!

    By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago, It even provided universal TREATMENT, versus 20% uninsured among Medicaid eligibles.

    Thank GOD, libertarians have spent 50 years teaching us that private charity delivers better than government.
    Oh wait, the anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of a private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.

    Instead, goober libertarians will decide where the money goes. Because free markets,
    From their smug moral superiority, free market slogans and soundbites are superior to free market OUTCOMES (for the past 450 years).

    Remind me. How do they differ from all the other authoritarians? Ahhh, better slogans
    What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government. Sorry assholes, you're still accomplices to the progressives who are kicking our ass.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I actually do want people to die. Overpopulation, people. It's a thing.

  • Sevo||

    Watermelons are on aisle #6.

  • Zeb||

    If no one ever died, it would become an actual problem.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    RACIST!!!1111!!!!!111!!!!1111!!!!1111!!!11111!!!!!

  • Sevo||

    Mike!

  • Michael Hihn||

    Reason goobers CHEER! Lewd by Sevo!

    By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago, It even provided universal TREATMENT, versus 20% uninsured among Medicaid eligibles.

    Thank GOD, libertarians have spent 50 years teaching us that private charity delivers better than government.
    Oh wait, the anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of a private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.

    Instead, goober libertarians will decide where the money goes. Because free markets,
    From their smug moral superiority, free market slogans and soundbites are superior to free market OUTCOMES (for the past 450 years).

    Remind me. How do they differ from all the other authoritarians? Ahhh, better slogans
    What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government. Sorry assholes, you're still accomplices to the progressives who are kicking our ass.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "The Hihntard says..."

  • Michael Hihn||

    The Hihntard says..."

    That RETARDS reject free-market outcomes. REFUSE to return the money to the people the state stole it from. Did I whoooosh over your head again, puppet?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Shorter Hihntard: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"

    (skips away chuckling)

  • Michael Hihn||

    (boldface in self-defense of repeated aggression by a serial stalker)

    That RETARDS reject free-market outcomes. REFUSE to return the money to the people the state stole it from. Did I whoooosh over your head again, puppet?

    Shorter Hihntard: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

    WHOOOOOSH 2

    (skips away chuckling)

    Sorry, I can't dumb it down to your level.

    Will it now launch (another) aggression? More infantile name-calling?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    WHOOOOOSH 2

    That's the sound of the wind swooping through your skull.

    Sorry, I can't dumb it down to your level.

    Please, the Ancient Aliens guy has more credibility than you do.

    Will it now launch (another) butthurt whine?

    (hops away chortling)

  • MarkLastname||

    Don't get Hihn started on who built the pyramids.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Don't get Hihn started on who built the pyramids.

    MORE unprovoked aggression,
    Are you two a snarling pack of wild dogs?

  • Michael Hihn||

    MORE unprovoked aggression

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WATCH ME SHITPOST LIKE A SPAMBOT!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    (More aggression)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    (more spambotting)

  • Michael Hihn||

    (more spambotting)

    Here's more ...

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    (more spambotting)

  • Zeb||

    And if no one died the world would be overrun by old people. Probably driving. Think about that for a minute.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Like Florida, but with fewer carnivorous lizards.

  • Longtobefree||

    Alligator:
    Kingdom: Animalia
    Phylum: Chordata
    Class: Reptilia
    Order: Crocodilia
    Family: Alligatoridae
    Subfamily: Alligatorinae
    Genus: Alligator

    Lizards:
    Kingdom: Animalia
    Phylum: Chordata
    Superclass: Tetrapoda
    Class: Reptilia
    Order: Squamata
    Suborder: Lacertilia*

    But only us old guys actually drive in Florida. With the top down, even in the 'winter'!

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    If no one died, then all of us would die.

  • Earth Skeptic||

    Think of the endless turn signals!

  • ||

    Overpopulation, people. It's a thing.

    Fake news. Just like there being intrinsic differences between races and sexes.

    The gender construct thing is real though. People are legitimately suffering with the appendages nature attached to them.

  • Zeb||

    People are legitimately suffering with the appendages nature attached to them.

    Aren't we all.

  • Eman||

    People without the appendages nature attached to them are probably suffering more.

  • notJoe||

    Where's Robby and why is this Remy guy wearing his hair?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    That's actually Jared Kushner's hair.

  • notJoe||

    No, the other guy. The one playing Sen. Knowbetter.

  • Longtobefree||

    Whipped Cream: serving size 2 tablespoons, carbs zero.
    FAKE NEWS!!! Sad.

  • Flaco||

    Look how the edge of his eyeglass frames disappears against the green screen when he turns his head.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    I watched it carefully and think it must be skinny frames, because the top part of the frame is still visible against the dark wood background when he turns his head, even while the outer edge of the frame does seem to disappear.

  • Ghetto Slovak Goatherder||

    I'm a medical student out in California. A classmate posted that the bill is "literal genocide." Dozens of classmates "liked" it. Not one dissent.

    So I posted that even though I don't support the bill or the PPACA, calling it genocide is pretty intellectually bankrupt.

    I didn't get a serious response, mostly emotive insults.

    I will share this with the hysterical mob. It's about as serious a response as theirs. Perfect timing. Thanks.

  • Sevo||

    "A classmate posted that the bill is "literal genocide.""

    In a book about China, written not long after it was opened to western journos, the author pointed out that most Chinese were conscious of the date of the medical license when they saw a doctor; if it was granted during or shortly after the Cultural Revolution, they found reasons to look elsewhere for medical care.
    You might share THAT with the hysterical mob; hysterical mobs typically don't perform difficult tasks well.

  • Michael Hihn||

    THAT with the hysterical mob; hysterical mobs typically don't perform difficult tasks well.

    They're not hysterical. They're scared shitless of .... you, slaver .. and this entire page of smirking assholes (so far). . "LET THEM EAT CAKE!"

    I'm in cancer treatment. Bills so far look to total $100,000 total. Mine will be among the lowest cost, because they caught it quickly. 0.8" tumor.

    If I was among the people YOU would allow to die ... while smirking ... I'd hunt you down, blow your fucking head off ... and jam the cake up your ass.

    For 450 years, until Medicaid, HUMANS always paid for uninsured care, voluntarily, of their free choice. In wealthier America, we had universal treatment, regardless of income. Government destroyed that, in effect seizing the donations in taxes.

    Now YOU want to shut down Medicaid ... but YOU arrogantly SHIT on market outcomes ... in free markets ,.; through voluntary choices and decisions ... and YOU will control where the money goes.

    HYSTERIA? No, you, slaver.

    (goober will now smirk some more, post another self-righteous rage, and continue disgracing the cause of individual liberty. Because authoritarian)

    .

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    If I was among the people YOU would allow to die ... while smirking ... I'd hunt you down, blow your fucking head off ... and jam the cake up your ass

    Lol, you can't even comment on an internet board without boilerplating the same arguments, you silly bitch. The only thing you'd end up blowing up is your own colostomy bag.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Lol, you can't even comment on an internet board without boilerplating the same arguments, you silly bitch.

    So many assholes in denial ... REFUSING to defend free market outcomes. Fucking thug.

    Sever denial is a mental deficiency .. especially denying a self-evident truth.
    Niow wipe the shit off your face, goober.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Sever denial is a mental deficiency .. especially denying a self-evident truth.
    Niow wipe the shit off your face, goober

    Try typing slower so you don't look like you're having a seizure, princess. LOL.

  • Michael Hihn||

    THREE AGGRESSIONS. Authoritarian -- PROUD of Inciting

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WORDS HURT REEEEEEEEEEE!!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    "WORDS HURT REEEEEEEEEEE!!"

    Like these?

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Hihnarrea achieves spambot status.

  • MarkLastname||

    "I'm in cancer treatment. Bills so far look to total $100,000 total."
    Which is why you save money over the course of your life to pay for medical costs and/or buy insurance. If you want the government to force you to save money because you think you're too stupid to remember, fine, but don't make it another underhanded way to redistribute income: if you're estimated life time medical costs are $1,000,000, then the state takes enough out of your salary (factoring in interest) from the moment you start working, based on expected earnings, life expectancy, etc. That way you see and pay the real cost, instead of getting to piss away your money on cruises then shirking your medical costs onto the net three generations (which is called a ponzi scheme).

    "If I was among the people YOU would allow to die ... while smirking ... I'd hunt you down, blow your fucking head off ... and jam the cake up your ass"
    For all the pant-shitting you do accusing people of aggression for daring to disagree with your nonsense, you've just uttered the most violent, aggressive threat I've ever seen in a Reason comments section.

    'Isn't it ironic, don'tcha think... a little too Ironic...'

  • Michael Hihn||

    Behold the sheer barbarity of anti-gubmint oobers.

    I'M THE ONE WHO WANTS TO REPEAL ALL OF MEDICAID ... HE'S THE LYING SACK OF SHIT WHO WANTS TO ***KEEP***IT*** … AND DENY PRIVATE DONORS THE RIGHT TO CONTROL THEIR OWN DOLLARS

    HOW FUCKIING STUPID ARE THEY?
    HE WANTS TO KEEP A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM ... FINANCED BY TAXES ... INSTEAD OF PRIVATE CHARITY ... FINANCED VOLUNTARILY ....

    **********AND SAYS THAT IS LIBERTARIAN! (OMFG)

    me: I'm in cancer treatment. Bills so far look to total $100,000 total. Mine will be among the lowest cost, because they caught it quickly. 0.8" tumor.
    If I was among the people YOU would allow to die ... while smirking ...

    Which is why you save money over the course of your life to pay for medical costs and/or buy insurance.

    FUCKING LIAR. REFUSES TO RESTORE PRIVATE CHARITY THE MONEY STOLEN BY MEDICAID --- REPEATED TEN TIMES ON THIS PAGE ... INCLUDING THE COMMENT YOU NOW CITE AND REPLY TO

    NOW DENIES CHARITY CARE EVER EXISTED, NO CHARITY HOSPITALS. NOTHING
    DESTROYS HIS NARRATIVE

    If you want the government to force you to save money because you think you're too stupid to remember, fine,,

    FUCKING PATHETIC LIAR. I WANT GOVERNMENT TO RESTORE THE MONEY IT STOLE FROM CHARITIES FOR MEDICAID.

    YOU WANT TO CUT MEDICAID -- AND SPEND THE MONEY ELSEWHERE

    CONT'D

  • Michael Hihn||

    Parrt 2

    "If I was among the people YOU would allow to die ... while smirking ... I'd hunt you down, blow your fucking head off ... and jam the cake up your ass"

    For all the pant-shitting you do accusing people of aggression for daring to disagree with your nonsense, you've just uttered the most violent, aggressive threat I've ever seen in a Reason comments section.

    HAVE YOU NO SHAME AT ALL, YOU BARBARIC SHITSTAIN.
    IF YOU THREATEN THEIR LIFE …. THAT IS THE AGGRESSIVE THREAT.
    ANYONE WHO DARES TO OBJECT, IS .... PANTS-SHITTING.

    *****HOW****DARE**** YOU:

    1)DEFY THE OUTCOMES OF A FREE MARKET?
    2) REFUSE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SHIFT THEIR OWN MONEY
    TO WHERE THEY INTEND?
    3) FUCK THE CHURCHES AND OTHERS WHO BUILT AND MAINTAINED CHARITY HOSPITALS … BY KEEPING THE MONEY STOLEN FROM THEM … SO YOU CAN RETAIN MEDICAID
    4) DEFEND KEEPING 75% OF MEDICAID … INSTEAD OF ZERO PERCENT.

    Or is the bully too fucking stupid to know what he's attacking ... and defending?

    THIS is the anti-gubmint (fake) libertarians
    Witless accomplices to the oppressive state.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WATCH ME HAVE A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN IN REAL TIME ON THIS THREAD!! MY INFANTILE PROJECTION IS UNRELENTING!! DON'T YOU DARE SAY EVEN THE MOST ANODYNE OF REBUKES TOWARDS ME OR WHAT I WRITE OR I'LL SHITPOST AT YOU AGAIN!!

    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    (laugh)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    (titter)

  • Michael Hihn||

    Reason goobers CHEER!

    By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago, It even provided universal TREATMENT, versus 20% uninsured among Medicaid eligibles.

    Thank GOD, libertarians have spent 50 years teaching us that private charity delivers better than government.
    Oh wait, the anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of a private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.

    Instead, goober libertarians will decide where the money goes. Because free markets,
    From their smug moral superiority, free market slogans and soundbites are superior to free market OUTCOMES (for the past 450 years).

    Remind me. How do they differ from all the other authoritarians? Ahhh, better slogans
    What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government. Sorry assholes, you're still accomplices to the progressives who are kicking our ass.

  • Finrod||

    I literally want to genocide all those pigfuckers that use the word literally figuratively.

  • PuddingHead||

    Catchy, I will be humming this as I load up the duffel bag.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Awesome, just bloody awesome! -- for someone who wants PEOPLE TO DYE their t-shirts.

  • Africanis||

    Pass my law, "The American Immortality Act " and we are all good. If you die then we fine you 100% of all your assets and it goes towards funding children's climate change education studies provided by Al Gore himself. So if you vote against it, you want people to die, hate children and the earth.

  • XM||

    The most important line in the video

    "Freedom's a tradeoff"

    There's no such thing as an affordable healthcare that covers everything and gives you the best available treatment. It doesn't exist. It's not possible for you go to the hospital and get tested for every known deadly disease or receive treatment every time you don't feel 100%.

    If you want some sort of single payer scheme, the funding comes right out of your pocket. Gas price is something like $4.50 in Canada and probably higher in places like Japan. If you spend your entire life paying taxes and working 12 hours a day to support your minimalist lifestyle, then paying 40 bucks for MRI is the least your country can do for you.

  • Michael Hihn||

    What a fucking disgrace. The goobers will love it. Progressives will run it as an ad.
    See, the American people have always wanted the uninsured to be treated ... and paid for the private charities, foundations and charity hospitals to do so. They even had univeral TREATMENT ... ntil the state took, in taxes, the free choices of millions of individuals

    Now, the anti-gubmint goober wing of libertarians wants to seize control the same money ... instead of simply returning to taxpayers ... like as tax credits for donations to, actualy any life support charities, to replace the entire welfare state ... as pro-liberty libertarians have proposed since the 70s. But that's more difficult than beating one's chest, bellowiing "repeal." The GOOBERS will choose,

    See, by repealing Mediaid, the complete private infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically restore itself. Disagree? Don't believe in fairy dust? Then you're a Slaver."

    This leaves ONLY Bernie Sanders offering to do what the majority of Americans have wanted, since our founding, and been willing to pay for. Goobers ask, piously, "What did the founders intend?"

    Well, dumbass, they intended an elected government. Consent of the governed. Fuck off, slavers.

  • Vapourwear||

    Charlie bit me!

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    It's fucking LOL watching a "true libertarian" like Hihntard have a conniption fit over the idea of a Medicaid repeal--a program that now costs $368 billion a year in grants to states--and then flip out at the "anti-gubmint" ghost in his head.

  • Michael Hihn||

    It's fucking LOL watching a "true libertarian" like Hihntard have a conniption fit over the idea of a Medicaid repeal--a program that now costs $368 billion a year in grants to states--and then flip out at the "anti-gubmint" ghost in his head.

    It's fucking LOL, watching goobers DEFEND rejecting free market outcomes, and KEEPING the money stolen froi, donors to pay for universal treatment in a free market,
    To watch Christian conservatives SHIT all over the charity hospitals and care they supported for 450 years.

    Yep, anti-gubmint goobers. Who also refuse to READ/

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    The only goobers are the ones dribbling out of your nose, goofy.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Portrait of a bully -- MORE self-defense of aggression.

    TOTALLY FUCKS UP -- RIDICULED

    a "true libertarian" like Hihntard have a conniption fit over the idea of a Medicaid repeal--a program that now costs $368 billion a year in grants to states--and then flip out at the "anti-gubmint" ghost in his head.

    It's fucking LOL,
    1) watching goobers DEFEND rejecting free market outcomes, and KEEPING the money stolen froi, donors to pay for universal treatment in a free market,

    2) watching Christian conservatives SHIT all over the charity hospitals and care they built and supported for 450 years.

    Yep, anti-gubmint goobers. Who also refuse to READ

    New infantile hissy fit ... punishing me for ridiculing his fuckup. Typical bully,

    The only goobers are the ones dribbling out of your nose, goofy.

    It could have been an honest screwup.

    Now he KNOWINGLY defends
    1) REJECTING free market outcomes
    2) KEEPING the money stolen form private charities, individual, corporate and foundation donors.
    3) Christian Conservatives SHITTING on the charity hospitals and care they supported for 450 years,

    Again, THESE are the anti-gubmint goobers. Persona; assaults and insults. The authoritarian "mind"

    The only goobers are the ones dribbling out of your nose, goofy
  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WATCH MY INTERNET HISSY FIT IT TOTALLY MEANS I HAVE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE TO SAY REEEEEEEEEE!"

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    New infantile hissy fit ... punishing me for ridiculing his fuckup. Typical bully,

    "SHUT UP GHOST IN MY HEAD I DID TOO EMBARRASS YOU HERE!!"

    (shuffles away tittering)

  • Michael Hihn||

    (shuffles away tittering)

    WAIT!

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Spambot Hihntard. A disgrace to coherent thinking and keeping drool within the mouth.

  • ace_m82||

    Now, the anti-gubmint goober wing of libertarians wants to seize control the same money

    Who?

    See, by repealing Mediaid, the complete private infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically restore itself. Disagree? Don't believe in fairy dust? Then you're a Slaver.

    Well, yes, by stealing and controlling, those people would be "slavers" by the current (non-official) definition. And it would fix itself by what we like to call "incentives" and "the free market". People like living, and they will pay hard-earned money in order to live.

    Well, dumbass, they intended an elected government. Consent of the governed.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/06.....-p#comment

    "Hypothetically, assume an entire Congress is elected on the same platform -- single-payer healthcare. Would it then be proper for Congress to do so? Why not? (I assume you answered wrong.)"

    "Do governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed? Is that principle superior to the Constitution?"
    "You have NO power to shit on Will of the People and Consent of the Governed."

    So Hihn doesn't believe in any unalienable rights, as the majority can simply vote their way into giving government the power to stomp on any "right" you may claim.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Watch the goober REFUSE to face the reality of elections (getting thrown out on your ass)... the outcomes of free markets ... and the empowerment of Berniecare.

    So Hihn doesn't believe in any unalienable rights, as the majority can simply vote their way into giving government the power to stomp on any "right" you may claim.

    Pathetic retard, YOU are the one defying the unalienable right of people to choose what they support.

    WHILE CLAIMING TO DEFEND UNALIENABLE RIGHTS!! OMG

    Who?

    Brainwashed anti-gubmint goobers. Thanks for confirming your authoritarian mentality. (puke)

  • ace_m82||

    Watch the goober REFUSE to face the reality of elections (getting thrown out on your ass)...

    The reality of elections is usually tyranny. I oppose tyranny. Why don't you, Mr. Pure Libertarian?

    the outcomes of free markets

    Gonna have to explain that one... Unless you think government is an outcome of an election, you've lost me.

    and the empowerment of Berniecare

    ???

    Pathetic retard, YOU are the one defying the unalienable right of people to choose what they support.

    Oh, no, they can choose to support whatever they want. They just can't use force-of-arms against those who haven't initiated force against them. If you believe that you can use force-of-arms against people who haven't initiated force against you, you are A, a slaver, and B, against all unalienable rights (as those rights can and will be taken away by the "reality of elections"). Or is it that you think your one, true unalienable "right" is to choose your tyrant?

    Who?

    Brainwashed anti-gubmint goobers.

    I'll take that lack of naming to mean that you can't think of any.

    But:

    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.
    May the Lord show you his favor
    and give you his peace.

  • Michael Hihn||

    (posted in defense of aggression)

    I oppose tyranny.

    BULLSHIT. You defend minority rule, and SHITTING on a free market.

    the outcomes of free markets

    Gonna have to explain that one...

    (OMFG) LEARN how stupid you just admitted!

    When we had a free-market in healthcare -- Americans financed charity hospitals and clinics, financed by a web of churches, charities, and other nonprofits. Their purpose, freely chosen, was universal treatment for the uninsured, regardless of income. Until shortly after Medicaid,

    WHO ARE YOU TO DEFY MARKET CHOICES ,... WHEN THE *ONLY* WAY TO REPEAL MEDICAID IS TO RETURN THE DOLLARS TO THEIR RIGHTFUL INTENT

    and the empowerment of Berniecare

    ???

    MORE IGNORANCE! The people want - and are willing to pay for -- universal care for the uninsured. If we don't provide it in the private sector ... that leaves Berniecare as the ONLY acceptable option. While you piss and moan defending minority rule.

    MEDICAID DESTROYED THEIR WORK. TOOK THEIR MONEY IN TAXES,
    YOU'D REPEAL MEDICAID AND ALSO FUCK THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS. JUST LIKE THE PROGS

    YOU'RE ALSO A FUCKING DISGRACE AS A CHRISTIAN.
    THOSE CHARITY HOSPITALS YOU ASSHOLES ARE SHITTING ON WERE ... BUILT, STAFFED, OPERATED BY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES ... FINANCED (PARTIALLY) BY THE COLLECTION PLATE AND ENDOWMENTS.

  • ace_m82||

    BULLSHIT. You defend minority rule

    No, I defend rights (the one right to not have force initiated upon you). "Rights" are not supposed to be affected by the rule of anyone, even in the poor system of government we now have.

    SHITTING on a free market.
    Their purpose, freely chosen, was universal treatment for the uninsured, regardless of income.

    That's a good thing. Charities are great. I give to some of them. I have no issue with this.

    WHO ARE YOU TO DEFY MARKET CHOICES ,... WHEN THE *ONLY* WAY TO REPEAL MEDICAID IS TO RETURN THE DOLLARS TO THEIR RIGHTFUL INTENT

    No, it is to give the dollars back to their rightful owners. The owners can then do with them as they please.

    LEARN how stupid you just admitted!

    I usually ignore these, but if you're going to insult, at least proof-read first!

    MORE IGNORANCE! The people want - and are willing to pay for -- universal care for the uninsured. If we don't provide it in the private sector...

    Stop right there. If people are want something and are willing to pay for it, it will happen in the private sector. If it doesn't happen in the private sector, the people aren't willing to pay for it (definitional truth).

    YOU'D REPEAL MEDICAID AND ALSO FUCK THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS.

    No, I'd return their money.

    Still:
    May the Lord bless you
    and keep you.

  • Michael Hihn||

    WHO ARE YOU TO DEFY MARKET CHOICES ,... WHEN THE *ONLY* WAY TO REPEAL MEDICAID IS TO RETURN THE DOLLARS TO THEIR RIGHTFUL INTENT

    No, it is to give the dollars back to their rightful owners.

    (sneer) That would be tax credits to the people replacing Medcaid. To eliminate it altogether. My plan.

  • ace_m82||

    So... Why are you arguing with me and accusing me of everything you can think of? I'm simply showing you why your logic is wrong (logical inconsistency). You accuse "libertarians" (you may be using the word differently than the rest of us, true) of theft.

    Answer me clearly, Hihn, can the majority overrule individual rights or not? It seems that "consent of the governed" (if it means majority rule) is incompatible with individual rights. (Yes, this would mean that The Declaration of Independence is logically inconsistent.) So, which one is supreme? If the majority votes to disarm me, enslave me, then kill me, do they have that authority?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Answer me clearly, Hihn

    Hercules had an easier time completing the 12 Labors than someone getting anything more than spittle-flecked projection out of Hihnohoser.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Red Rocks, here's my answer, thug (smirk)

    Why do you deny the right to form voluntary associations? Why must they include you?

    If 20 people form a Kiwanis chapter … why can you then join, demand rules benefiting you alone? … claim you do NOT support minority rule ... without being ridiculed? (lol)

    … "consent of the governed" (if it means majority rule) is incompatible with individual rights.

    How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    (Yes, this would mean that The Declaration of Independence is logically inconsistent.)

    Proving your authoritarian mentality!

    "Governments receive their just powers by the consent of the governed."
    How can yours be just WITHOUT consent of the governed ?
    If 100 people agree to tax themselves ... and taxation is theft TO YOU … . why MUST it be theft to them? And who the FUCK are you?

    If Kiwanis increases dues by $20 ... by what right do you refuse to pay ... INSTEAD OF LEAVING, snowflake?

    So, which one is supreme?

    For governing or philosophy? (smirk)

    If the majority votes to disarm me, enslave me, then kill me, do they have that authority?

    (VOMIT) You deny equal, unalienable and/or God-given rights .., except for YOU
    AND CALL THAT LIBERTY? OMG

    AGAIN: How can you govern a society … never even seeking majority support .. and NOT be a fucking authoritarian?

    (flush)

  • Michael Hihn||

    Your time has expired, Gomer

    Why do you deny the right to form voluntary associations? Why must they include you?

    If 20 people form a Kiwanis chapter … why can you then join, demand rules benefiting you alone? … claim you do NOT support minority rule ... without being ridiculed? (lol)

    … "consent of the governed" (if it means majority rule) is incompatible with individual rights.

    How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    (Yes, this would mean that The Declaration of Independence is logically inconsistent.)

    Proving your authoritarian mentality!

    "Governments receive their just powers by the consent of the governed."
    How can yours be just WITHOUT consent of the governed ?
    If 100 people agree to tax themselves ... and taxation is theft TO YOU … . why MUST it be theft to them? And who the FUCK are you?

    If Kiwanis increases dues by $20 ... by what right do you refuse to pay ... INSTEAD OF LEAVING, snowflake?

    So, which one is supreme?

    For governing or philosophy? (smirk)

    If the majority votes to disarm me, enslave me, then kill me, do they have that authority?

    (VOMIT) You deny equal, unalienable and/or God-given rights .., except for YOU
    AND CALL THAT LIBERTY? OMG

    AGAIN: How can you govern a society … never even seeking majority support .. and NOT be a fucking authoritarian?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "I HATE AUTHORITARIANS THAT'S WHY I HATE A HISSY FIT WHEN PEOPLE SAID WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY MEDICAID! NOW I'LL ACCUSE PEOPLE OF MAKING ARGUMENTS THEY NEVER MADE! "

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Why do you deny the right to form voluntary associations? Why must they include you?

    No one's made that statement, moron--just the voices in your head.

    If 20 people form a Kiwanis chapter … why can you then join, demand rules benefiting you alone? … claim you do NOT support minority rule ... without being ridiculed? (lol)

    No one's made that statement, moron--just the voices in your head.

    If 100 people agree to tax themselves ... and taxation is theft TO YOU … . why MUST it be theft to them? And who the FUCK are you?

    Only a moron would conflate a Kiwanis club org with the federal government. No one forces you to pay dues, but we're all forced to pay taxes for Medicaid, dummy.

    AGAIN: How can you govern a society … never even seeking majority support .. and NOT be a fucking authoritarian?

    Hey dumbfuck--you're making an excellent argument for why Medicaid should be cut.

  • Michael Hihn||

    retarded!!

    If 100 people agree to tax themselves ... and taxation is theft TO YOU … . why MUST it be theft to them? And who the FUCK are you?

    Only a moron would conflate a Kiwanis club org with the federal government. No one forces you to pay dues, but we're all forced to pay taxes for Medicaid, dummy.

    hahahahahahahahhahahaha DENIAL IS NOT A DEFENSE. IT'S A MENTAL DISORDER!

    At Kiwanis ... pay the dues or leave. Same here dumbfuck!
    HOW MANY TIMES MUST I DUMB IT DOWN FOR YOU ASSHOLES?

    ONE MORE TIME FOR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED

    Government - like Kiwanis, dumfuck -- is a VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.
    ITS MEMBERS AGREE, FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY -- TO JAIL THEMSELVES FOR REFUSING TO PAY THE DUES.

    2% OF THE MEMBERSHIP REFUSES TO PAY THE DUES ... AND CLAIM MORE POWER THAN THE 98%.

    "INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY"ALLOWS THEM TO RESIGN ... FUCKING LEAVE
    THEY REFUSE TO RESIGN ....AND INSTEAD SUCK OFF THE LIBERTY CREATED BY OTHERS ... BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTALLY UNABLE TO CREATE THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION ... AN ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY! omfg

    Now count how many times Acer and Red Rocks CANNOT GRASP THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LOGIC ...as the SUCK THE TEATS of others.

    GOOBERS? AUTHORITARIANS>

  • ace_m82||

    Government - like Kiwanis, dumfuck -- is a VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.
    ITS MEMBERS AGREE, FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY -- TO JAIL THEMSELVES FOR REFUSING TO PAY THE DUES.

    That is far and away the stupidest thing you've ever said. You have outdone yourself, Hihn.

    And in case you think it's still true, I don't consent to government. I am forced to deal with it every day. I am not "freely and voluntarily" agreeing to anything.

    Is this really what your entire philosophy of government depends on? No wonder it's so screwed up!

    "INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY"ALLOWS THEM TO RESIGN ... FUCKING LEAVE
    THEY REFUSE TO RESIGN

    So, your theory is that the only way to resign from the government (that I am not a part of) is to leave? If I live on this earth, how, precisely, would I do that?

    Also, just because the cartel (which describes government quite well) controls a town, does that mean that the only manner I can "resign" from the cartel is to leave the town?

    Also, wouldn't that entire theory negate the American Revolution? Wouldn't that mean that the Civil War should have gone the other way?

    Or if you think the Colonists didn't "consent" to British rule anymore, wouldn't that mean that we could now rid ourselves of government because Congress' approval rating is so low?

    When did I sign the social contract, Hihn?

  • Michael Hihn||

    ANOTHER MASSIVE FUCKUP

    "INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY"ALLOWS THEM TO RESIGN ... FUCKING LEAVE
    THEY REFUSE TO RESIGN

    So, your theory is that the only way to resign from the government (that I am not a part of) is to leave? If I live on this earth, how, precisely, would I do that?

    RESIGN FROM THE CULTURE YOU DUMBFUCK, RETARDED PUPPET.

    STOP SUCKING THE TEAT OF SELF-GOVERNMENT CREATED BY OTHERS,
    STOP TRYING TO IMPOSE ANARCHY IN DEFIANCE OF VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.

    GO CREATE YOUR OWN SOCIETY ... DUMBFUCK AUTHORITARIANS: ACER-M82, RON PAUL, LEW ROCKWELL, RED ROCKS AND ALL THE OTHERS.

    THE WORLD DOES NOT OWE YOU A SOCIETY
    TAKE YOUR ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY AND ... SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS
    RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HEAD.

    ***AND****STOP****FUCKING***LADY***LIBERTY***

    These SICK FUCKS are WHY 91% if libertarians REFUSE to be called libertarian (Cato SURVEY)
    REJECTED BY OUR OWN MAJORITY ... by fewer than 3% of us.

  • ace_m82||

    RESIGN FROM THE CULTURE

    Culture =/= government.

    STOP SUCKING THE TEAT OF SELF-GOVERNMENT CREATED BY OTHERS

    Killing it is hard.

    STOP TRYING TO IMPOSE ANARCHY IN DEFIANCE OF VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.

    Yes, I "impose" myself by not initiating force. Also, the cartel still isn't voluntary.

    O CREATE YOUR OWN SOCIETY

    Society =/= government.

    THE WORLD DOES NOT OWE YOU A SOCIETY

    If by that you mean "government", then can you tell them that? I just want people to stop initiating force.

    STOP****FUCKING***LADY***LIBERTY

    By "liberty" you mean the liberty to leave when they take all you have, enslave you, and kill you? Good luck with that!

    So, your theory is that the only way to resign from the government (that I am not a part of) is to leave? If I live on this earth, how, precisely, would I do that?

    Also, just because the cartel (which describes government quite well) controls a town, does that mean that the only manner I can "resign" from the cartel is to leave the town?

    Also, wouldn't that entire theory negate the American Revolution? Wouldn't that mean that the Civil War should have gone the other way?

    Or if you think the Colonists didn't "consent" to British rule anymore, wouldn't that mean that we could now rid ourselves of government because Congress' approval rating is so low?

    When did I sign the social contract, Hihn?

  • Michael Hihn||

    ANOTHER LINK TO SAVE ... DUMBFUCKERY OF ANTI-GUBMINT PUPPETS

    LIBERTY: RESIGN FROM THE CULTURE

    SLAVER: "Culture =/= government."

    LIBERTY: Until you say the exacr opposite a few seconds later!
    THE WORLD DOES NOT OWE YOU A SOCIETY


    SLAVER (a few seconds later!) If by that you mean "government",

    1) Make up your mind
    2) IF SOCIETY MEANS GOVERNMENT … THEN YOUR ANARCHIC SOCIETY IS IMPOSSIBLE!! (duh)

    STOP****FUCKING***LADY***LIBERTY

    By "liberty" you mean the liberty to leave when they take all you have,

    BEFORE – UNLESS YOU'RE EVEN CRAZIER. (SHRUG)

    Also, wouldn't that entire theory negate the American Revolution?

    ONLY IF YOU'RE STUPID ENOUGH TO CONFUSE THE REVOLUTION ,... WITH THE CONSTITUTION ..,,. WHICH FOLLOWED THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION.,

    Wouldn't that mean that the Civil War should have gone the other way?

    OMFG .... BRAINWASHED BY HIS IGNORANCE OF HISTORY!!

    PAY ATTENTION CHUMP.
    1) THE SOUTH SECEDED
    2) THE NORTH IGNORED IT.... UNTIL ...
    3) THE SOUTH ATTACKED FORT SUMTER
    4) THE CONFEDERATIO COULD HAVE WITHDRAWN AT ANY TIME, AND RETAINED THE CONFEDERACY.
    5) BUT THEY WERE AS STUPID AS ... YOUR TRIBE.
    6) SECEDE FROM AMERICA LIKE YOU JUST ENDORSED!
    7) AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND ON WHETHER A SOCIETY ANDGOVERNMENT ARE THE SAME THING. (snorf)

  • ace_m82||

    Make up your mind

    No, make up your mind, Hihn, I'm trying to translate your ramblings into English. My only assumption is that you think that "society" does mean "government" (which is very wrong).

    BEFORE – UNLESS YOU'RE EVEN CRAZIER.

    I did say I usually understand you, but not here.

    ONLY IF YOU'RE STUPID ENOUGH TO CONFUSE THE REVOLUTION ,... WITH THE CONSTITUTION

    No, you misunderstand me (and that's not terribly shocking). If the only way to assert your rights from government is to leave the location, then the American Revolution was wrong as that territory was claimed by the British government. The Revolutionaries should have left, according to your logic.

    THE CONFEDERATIO COULD HAVE WITHDRAWN AT ANY TIME, AND RETAINED THE CONFEDERACY.

    That's a massive revision if I ever saw it. You are right in your chain of events, but the Fort was in the South and it should have been left to them.

    SECEDE FROM AMERICA LIKE YOU JUST ENDORSED!

    I didn't endorse it, I brought it up.

    If I live on this earth, how, precisely, would I "leave" government?

    Also, just because the cartel (which describes government quite well) controls a town, does that mean that the only manner I can "resign" from the cartel is to leave the town?

    Doesn't Congress' approval rating mean that we don't consent to government anymore?

    When did I sign the social contract, Hihn?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    retarded!!

    Yes, your posts are the epitome of emotional infantilism.

    At Kiwanis ... pay the dues or leave. Same here dumbfuck!
    HOW MANY TIMES MUST I DUMB IT DOWN FOR YOU ASSHOLES?

    Only a dumbfuck would equate a private organization with a government organization or program.

    2% OF THE MEMBERSHIP REFUSES TO PAY THE DUES ... AND CLAIM MORE POWER THAN THE 98%.

    "Citation needed"

    The rest of your post is SJW "well if they don't like it they can leave" blooing. That cancer clearly ate whatever is left if your brain, dumbshit.

  • ace_m82||

    Red Rocks:

    If justice is repayment, you are definitely being just in your responses.

    If Hihn is reading this, you know how annoying Red Rocks is being to you? That's because he's doing to you precisely what you do to all of us. I guess you just made him snap. If you're that annoyed by what he's doing, think about how annoyed all of us have been at you for years!

    Not all of your arguments are terrible, but you simply cannot change your worldview when presented with copious amounts of evidence and even proof otherwise. Nothing thus far has made you learn anything, at all. That, combined with your inability to see disagreement as anything other that "aggression, bullying, and stalking" and your insistence in acting like a spoiled 4 year old makes most people treat you like they do.

    But even if you never change, Hihn:

    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.
    May the Lord show you his favor
    and give you his peace.

  • Michael Hihn||

    MOAR Aggression

    "I HATE AUTHORITARIANS THAT'S WHY I HATE A HISSY FIT WHEN PEOPLE SAID WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY MEDICAID!

    Psychopathic liar.

    Over a dozen times on this page, I state that LIBERTARIANS would never repeal Medicaid, and decide on their own, where to allocate the savings.

    Libertarians know that Medicaid replaced private charity -- where Americans VOLUNTARILY provided care to the uninsured, delivered by Charity Hospitals, financed by church collection plates, various forms of charities and foundations, and the fraternal organizations who began providing charitable care 450 years ago THAT IS THE FREELY EXPRESSED WILL OF THE PEOPLE -- DEFIED BY THE GOOBERS.

    Libertarians would ALLOW the private care infrastructure to be rebuilt and restored ... paid by the savings of repealing Medicare.

    FUCKING GOOBERS *REFUSE* TO RETURN THE MONEY TO PRIVATE CHARITY ... AND IN THEIR MINDLESS CONFORMITY .... WANT TO PRESERCE MOST OF MEDICAID ... AND THE DUMBFUCKS *brag* THEY WOULD INCREASE BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING ON MEDICAID!

    TRUE BELIEVERS .. EAGERLY BRAINWASHED

    PROOF THAT ACER AND REDROICKS ARE RAGING PSYCHOS (sneer)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Sure, Hihntard, that's why you exploded in self-righteous fury about the site making fun of the hysteria over a government medical welfare program possibly having its funding cut.

    You're such an unself-aware dumbshit that you can't even keep your outrages straight--just like an infantile SJW.

    FUCKING GOOBERS *REFUSE* TO RETURN THE MONEY TO PRIVATE CHARITY ... AND IN THEIR MINDLESS CONFORMITY .... WANT TO PRESERCE MOST OF MEDICAID ... AND THE DUMBFUCKS *brag* THEY WOULD INCREASE BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING ON MEDICAID!

    Here Hihntard makes an argument against a position that literally no one on this site or comment section other than biggov progs have advocated.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    How is cutting Medicaid or eliminating it altogether incompatible with them?

  • ace_m82||

    Why do you deny the right to form voluntary associations?

    I don't, in any way.

    How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    It isn't. Government isn't compatible with individual rights (unless there is 100% consent).

    Proving your authoritarian mentality!

    No, proving logical consistency.

    How can yours be just WITHOUT consent of the governed ?

    No government. Problem solved.

    If 100 people agree to tax themselves...

    Then it isn't taxation.

    So, which one is supreme?

    For governing or philosophy?

    There is no distinction.

    If the majority votes to disarm me, enslave me, then kill me, do they have that authority?

    (VOMIT) You deny equal, unalienable and/or God-given rights .., except for YOU
    AND CALL THAT LIBERTY? OMG

    Was that an answer? Did you just answer they they DO have the authority to do that? Answer directly!

    How can you govern a society

    Don't.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Self-defense
    SETUP THE KILL.

    How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    Government isn't compatible with individual rights (unless there is 100% consent).

    INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS MEANS 0.0001% CAN OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
    THAT'S DICTATOR RIGHTS, SLAVER. YOUR "RIGHT" IS TO LEAVE.

    Now expose a TRUE beleeber. (mindless puppet)

    LIBERTARIAN dangles bait - : Why do you deny the right to form voluntary associations?

    SLAVER bites - I don't, in any way.

    LIBERTARIAN sets up the kill - How can yours be just WITHOUT consent of the governed?

    SLAVER CRASHES! - No government. Problem solved.

    ((CELEBRATES)
    HOW RETARDED IS THAT???

    Mass movements do not need a god, but they do need a devil. Hatred unifies the True Believers."
    -Eric Hoffer, "The True Believers" (1951)

    Throughout human history, the worst moral atrocitres have been committed by those manipulated to BELIEVE they are defending some "greater good" -- the Collective, the State, the Master Race, the Party or a God. Zealots and fanatics. The militant self-righteous.
    -Mike Hihn (1994)

    Nobody is reading THIS page. But THESE words AND LINK
    Will be seen EVERY TIME these assholes (acer & red rocks) continue 1+ year of stalking me.
    Every time THUGS try to shout down blasphemy to their "god."

    I baited them. They bit. (snort)

  • ace_m82||

    INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS MEANS 0.0001% CAN OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
    THAT'S DICTATOR RIGHTS, SLAVER. YOUR "RIGHT" IS TO LEAVE.

    I'll be happy to note that you consider me a "dictator" when I complain as they put chains around my hands and feet and lead me away to be executed. Guess I should have just left, right?

    HOW RETARDED IS THAT???

    Government isn't voluntary any more than taxes are. Being born into the cartel town doesn't make me a part of the cartel and doesn't make the cartel voluntary, nor does it make the cartel just.

    Nobody is reading THIS page. But THESE words AND LINK
    Will be seen EVERY TIME these assholes (acer & red rocks) continue 1+ year of stalking me.

    Yes, please, link to this. Link to you saying that government is voluntary and the only thing you can do to protect your rights is to leave. Please, please do so.

    I won't even need to post my own links to your logical inconsistencies if you do it for me.

    Finally:

    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.
    May the Lord show you his favor
    and give you his peace.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Will be seen EVERY TIME these assholes (acer & red rocks) continue 1+ year of stalking me.
    Every time THUGS try to shout down blasphemy to their "god."

    You're such a whiny little bitch, Hihn. Don't blame us just because you can't stop yourself from posting unmitigated bullshit in a desperate attempt to constantly get the last word.

    I baited them. They bit. (snort)

    Lol, please. The only thing you've demonstrated is what a dishonest, senile, demented waste of carbon molecules you are.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS MEANS 0.0001% CAN OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

    Hihntard's SJW manifesto. Next he'll be telling us that property is theft.

  • Michael Hihn||

    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6890500

    Liberty Mike: How is MINORITY rule compatible with individual rights?

    acerm82: Government isn't compatible with individual rights (unless there is 100% consent).

    Liberty Mike: INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS MEANS 0.0001% CAN OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THAT'S DICTATOR RIGHTS, SLAVER. YOUR "RIGHT" IS TO LEAVE

    Red Rocks defends slaver:Hihntard's SJW manifesto.

    FUCK JEFFERSON

  • ace_m82||

    Jefferson here was the personification of logical inconsistency, holding slaves while writing the Declaration!

    And yes, whining along the lines of "Jefferson said it so it must be right" is what we like to call "Appeal to Authority".

  • Michael Hihn||

    Jefferson here was the personification of logical inconsistency, holding slaves while writing the Declaration!

    Slavery as approved by the Bible?
    Why are progs so ignorant that slavery had been the norm for thousands of years, all of human history ... and why do you SHAME us for repealing it in fewer than 90 years.

    And yes, whining along the lines of "Jefferson said it so it must be right" is what we like to call "Appeal to Authority".

    Fucking liar.
    I ridiculed you notion that "government isn't compatible with individual rights unless there is 100% consent. -- so that a handful of dumbfucks could DEMAND that 98% of Americans agree with THEM.

    A dumbfuck who just SCREAMED that slavery should not have been repealed unless there was unanimous consent to do so ... (snort)

    The same dumbfuck who ALSO says a miniorty can reject the concept of equal, unalienable and/or God-Given rights ... and unleashes a shitstorm when THAT tyranny is exposed

    I'll take Jefferson over some Christian Taliban who pisses on anyone not as "perfect" as themselves ... while shitting on he Will of God in the Name of God,

    And claims there is an NFP - "force" -- instead of an NAP ("aggression) .. because he practices verbal aggression, and uses the state to mandate marriage INequality (because it never initiates force, but merely aggression, lol)

  • ace_m82||

    Slavery as approved by the Bible?

    You must mean "allowed". He also allowed divorce, even though he hated it.

    I ridiculed you notion that "government isn't compatible with individual rights unless there is 100% consent. -- so that a handful of dumbfucks could DEMAND that 98% of Americans agree with THEM.

    No, just that they stop oppressing me (and us).

    A dumbfuck who just SCREAMED that slavery should not have been repealed unless there was unanimous consent to do so

    Government codified slavery and defended it. It was an initiation of force on two levels, the enslavement of the slave owner and the protection of the state. Without the state, there couldn't have been slavery in places like Mississippi (vast majority of pop. was slaves).

    The same dumbfuck who ALSO says a miniorty can reject the concept of equal, unalienable and/or God-Given rights

    No, that's you. You think rights are dependent on "consent of the governed" which to you means "elections". So, when the Germans elected the Nazis in 1933, that was "consent of the governed" (by your definition) and those Jews should have had the foresight to leave before they were stolen from, enslaved, and killed (by your own responses to my questions).

    Me: By "liberty" you mean the liberty to leave when they take all you have, enslave you, and kill you?

    Hihn: BEFORE – UNLESS YOU'RE EVEN CRAZIER.
  • ace_m82||

    I'll take Jefferson over some Christian Taliban who pisses on anyone not as "perfect" as themselves

    Not even close to me, as I continually tell you I am not righteous, I am a sinner, saved by grace, through faith. Also, by your own definition:

    Taliban favors a theocratic government.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/06.....bertarians

    I can't be Taliban, as I'm an An-Cap.

    And claims there is an NFP - "force" -- instead of an NAP ("aggression) .. because he practices verbal aggression, and uses the state to mandate marriage INequality (because it never initiates force, but merely aggression, lol)

    Once again, I'm an An-Cap, so I don't use the state for anything. And, as you have such a poor definition of "aggression" (meaning anyone who dares to tell Hihn he's wrong more than once), I keep to "initiation of force" because it better defines what NAP is supposed to refer to. If I call someone an idiot (whether they are one or not) I have not "aggressed" in the manner specified by NAP. You may not respond to that insult through force-of-arms.

    I will use the entire quote this time so Hihn no longer has the excuse of ignorance:

    "This is how you are to bless the Israelites. Say to them:

    'The Lord bless you
    and keep you;
    the Lord make his face shine on you
    and be gracious to you;
    the Lord turn his face toward you
    and give you peace."'

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "WATCH ME INVOKE JEFFERSON'S NAME LIKE A TOTEM IN THE VAIN HOPE NO ONE NOTICES I CAN'T MAKE A COHERENT ARGUMENT WITHOUT SHITTING MYSELF!!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    "WATCH ME INVOKE JEFFERSON'S NAME LIKE A TOTEM IN THE VAIN HOPE NO ONE NOTICES I CAN'T MAKE A COHERENT ARGUMENT WITHOUT SHITTING MYSELF!!"

    Dumbfuck shits on his own face AGAIN. I defended Jefferson over brainwashed AGGRESSORS who say that human rights are impossible ... unless EVERYONE consents to HIS choices and values!

    (snicker)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    unless EVERYONE consents to HIS choices and values!

    "WATCH ME PROJECT AGAIN LIKE A 70S-ERA PORN HOUSE THEATER!! I'M TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN I'M POSTING UNDER MY OWN SOCKPUPPET BECAUSE I'M A SPAMARRHETIC DIPSHIT!!"

    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6890613

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Pathetic retard, YOU are the one defying the unalienable right of people to choose what they support

    "SOMEONE ISN'T PARROTING WHAT I SAYSO I'M GOING TO LAUNCH UNPROVOKED AGGRESSIONS FOR HAVING MY OWN WORDS QUOTED BACK TO ME WHILE CLAIMING I DON'T LAUNCH UNPROVOKED AGGRESSIONS! I'M A REAL-LIFE BENJAMIN BUTTON!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

  • Michael Hihn||

    SOMEONE ISN'T PARROTING WHAT I SAY

    (sneer) That very comment is an unprovoked aggression in this thread. Everyone can see that instantly. He doesn't care.
    Cyber-bullies attack. From their lust to control others.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "I BURNED MYSELF OUT SO BAD FROM MY SHITPOSTS TWO HOURS AGO THAT I HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER NAP SO I COULD SHITPOST AGAIN!! WATCH ME REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"

    (moonwalks away cackling)

  • Michael Hihn||

    (moonwalks away cackling)

    STILL CACKLING? (lol)

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    You're arguing with the ghost in your head again, Hihntard.

  • ||

    Very good, Remy.

    Nailed it.

  • PaulTheBeav||

    That was awesome, LOL.

  • MarkLastname||

    Jeez, Hihn is really fucking this thread dry. I guess Medicaid pays for his catheters.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Hihn is really fucking this thread dry. I guess Medicaid pays for his catheters

    (laughing)
    1) Goober doesn't know what a thread is EITHER!
    2) Starting a new thread ... with a personal attack ... is unprovoked aggression, by definition.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Too bad it didn't pay for a straitjacket and a padded room as well so he could argue with the voices in his head in a safe environment.

  • American Memer||

    Someday, just for kicks, I'm going to pick a Hihn post and just lavishly agree with absolutely everything in it, just to see if he's ever had to handle that situation before. Should be fun.

  • Michael Hihn||

    If you're as big a fucking bully as him .... will you also stalk me down the page?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    If you're as big a fucking bully as him

    And you're a dementia-addled dork who can't handle a iota of contradiction to your worldview without losing your shit.

  • Michael Hihn||

    And you're a dementia-addled dork who can't handle a iota of contradiction to your worldview without losing your shit

    (smirk) JAMMED it up the bully's ass --- and twisted -- in self-defense ... after baiting them in a setup,
    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6890500

    (sneer)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    (smirk) JAMMED it up the bully's ass --- and twisted -- in self-defense ... after baiting them in a setup,

    You're really letting your fleshlight fantasies

    Here's where I turned you inside out in self-defense of your aggression!
    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6889282

    (hops away chortling)

  • Michael Hihn||

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the rich

    And here Hihnarrea argues with the strawman in his head.

  • Michael Hihn||

    (sneer)

  • Edwin||

    What the hell is wrong with this guy Hihn? Does anybody understand what the hell he's talkign about? Why don't they kick him off? At least Tony makes basic sense.

    Hihn, I and everyone else here have literally NO idea what you're talking about. You keep writing as though we know about whatever pet issues/factoids you're talking about, and you fail to explicitly spell them out. And then you start using sarcasm but you keep changing pronouns so I can't tell if you're saying that us libertarians are saying sometrhing by saying the opposite sarcastically or... I dunno, I honestly just can't tell. You can't even keep your pronouns/persons right.

    Are you saying that the enstatement of medicaid way back when involved co-opting charity money from hospitals? If so, I honestly had no idea, and I doubt many of us here did.

    On a very basic note, Berniecare or Obamacare or whatever, cannot by any stretch of the imagination be libertarian. And "the people" do NOT want it, at least not by any large margin. We all would like to see the uninsured and pre-existing conditioned covered, IF it's fiscally possible, but that's a big if. There is nothng liberty-oriented about shoving it down everyone's throats, and making everyone pay more taxes for it.

    You seem to be trying to say so by walking it through some very particular interpretation about some factoid relating to medicare and charity dollars that, as I explained above,

  • Edwin||

    you have yet to even explain to us. If you'd like to explain it, we're all ears. Until then, maybe calm down a little?

  • Michael Hihn||

    you have yet to even explain to us.

    Ummmm

    Repeal Medicare and the ONLY libertarian end-game is to return those dollars to their original free market outcome. NOT impose their own preferences on where to shift dollars.

    By repealing Medicaid, the entire private charity infrastructure -- and funding -- will magically reappear as it was before government killed it, 50 years ago, It even provided universal TREATMENT, versus 20% uninsured among Medicaid eligibles. ((insert: some missed what I thought was obvious sarcasm/ridicul)))

    Thank GOD, libertarians have spent 50 years teaching us that private charity delivers better than government.
    Oh wait, the anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of a private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.
  • ace_m82||

    Why don't they kick him off?

    They don't kick anyone off.

    Hihn, I and everyone else here have literally NO idea what you're talking about.

    Sadly, I do usually understand what he's talking about. It's all based on logical inconsistencies and it takes hundreds of posts to nail it down.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Maybe all that goal-posting shifting is what put that cancer in his head.

  • meta||

    You understand hihnonese? That's deserves a merit badge

  • Michael Hihn||

    TRUTH SQUAD

    >ace_m82|" Sadly, I do usually understand what he's talking about. It's all based on logical inconsistencies

    >Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting "Maybe all that goal-posting shifting is what put that cancer in his head.

    >meta| "You understand hihnonese? That's deserves a merit badge"

    For 450 years, until Medicaid, HUMANS always paid for uninsured care, voluntarily, of their free choice …In wealthier America, we had universal treatment, regardless of income. Government destroyed that…

    Repeal Medicare and the ONLY libertarian end-game is to return those dollars to their original free market outcome. NOT impose their own preferences on where to shift dollars.

    ... anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity. They COULD return government health care dollars, and let individuals decide where to finance the rebuilding of a private care network ,,, that provided care to those who needed it ... since the 1500s.

    Instead, goober libertarians will decide where the money goes. Because free markets,
    From their smug moral superiority, free market slogans and soundbites are superior to ACTUAL free market OUTCOMES (for the past 450 years).

    Remind me. How do they differ from all the other authoritarians? Ahhh, better slogans
    What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government. Sorry assholes, you're still accomplices to the progressives who are kicking our ass.
  • ace_m82||

    Government destroyed that.

    Repeal Medicare and the ONLY libertarian end-game is to return those dollars to their original free market outcome.

    Yep.

    anti-gubmint libs. inspired by Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard and other authoritarian thugs are PISSING on private charity

    Who, again? You didn't answer last time.

    Also, I'm fairly certain that Rothbard was an An-Cap, and calling that philosophy "authoritarian" is great violence to the English language.

    What did the founders intend? An ELECTED government.

    True, however they believed that rights were still unalienable, and that no election could result in taking everything you own, enslaving you, and killing you. But you do, because when you have to choose between "consent of the governed" and "unalienable rights", you chose "consent" (which, to you, means majority/mob rule). In fact, above you say:

    INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS MEANS 0.0001% CAN OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
    THAT'S DICTATOR RIGHTS, SLAVER. YOUR "RIGHT" IS TO LEAVE.

    And I don't even need to comment further to make that look as evil as it is. Speaking of, you also said:

    Government - like Kiwanis, dumfuck -- is a VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.
    ITS MEMBERS AGREE, FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY -- TO JAIL THEMSELVES FOR REFUSING TO PAY THE DUES.

    And yet:
    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.

  • John Galt II||

    Behold the self-righteous

    This atheist will AGAIN refer yoi to the Holy Bible, Jesus of Nazareth.
    And AGAIN school you on the same Sermon on the Mount that you keep screwing up. He even likened your ilk to "the hypocrites." --for making a public spectacle of their faith.

    Sermon on the Mount. Matthew 6:5

    do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others... And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words

    Self-Righteous

    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.

    ... making a public spectacle of your faith ..... in defiance of the Christ you claim to worship ... like a hypocrite .... WHILE COMMITTING AGGRESSION.

    Reject the Anti-Christ. Accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. Fall on your knees. Beg His forgiveness.

  • ace_m82||

    Again, Hihn? I will link to the history of your multiple handles when I get back to my notes on your behavior.

    Sermon on the Mount...

    Yes, indeed, he did say that. He also said:

    "Bless those who curse you, and pray for those who insult you." Luke 6:28

    Also:

    "Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing." 1 Peter 3:9

    "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them." Romans 12:14

    As I am not praying here, I can't possibly be guilty of what you quote. And as blessing always takes place directly to the person receiving it, I can't bless you any other way. But of course, you'd have to know the Scripture to actually know that...

    Self-Righteous

    No, a sinner, saved by grace through faith. I do my best, and by God's blessing get better every day, to follow precisely what my God has said.

    making a public spectacle of your faith

    Read carefully, that's not what the Sermon on the Mount says. Of course, that would require you to change your mind, and we all know that's impossible, Hihn.

    So, again:

    May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.
    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.
    May the Lord show you his favor
    and give you his peace.

  • ace_m82||

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/12.....nt_6652623

    Completely loses his mind by using 3 (!) different handles, also uses his Hihn handle to respond to himself… 3 days after no one other than he or I were posting anymore.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/01.....nt_6730841

    Says precisely the same thing using 2 different handles. Begins with a quote of mine "If the child is a living human".

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Clown-ass Hihntard can't figure out if he's an atheist or a Christian.

  • Michael Hihn||

    The hysteria of ant-gubmint goobers

    True, however they believed that rights were still unalienable, and that no election could result in taking everything you own, enslaving you, and killing you.

    (lol) What election was that, goober? How could it even appear on the ballot, Sparky?

    But you do, because when you have to choose between "consent of the governed" and "unalienable rights", you chose "consent" (which, to you, means majority/mob rule). In fact, above you say:

    (yawn) Bat-shit crazy ,... even for you, Correction -- a massive fucking lie.
    Call you out as a liar.
    1) I never said that.
    2) You REPEATEDLY deny unalienable rights, an absolute denial, not an election choice. AND you want the state to enforce it.

  • ace_m82||

    What election was that, goober?

    I'm thinking Germany 1933... (Technically a plurality, not a majority, but it was an election, and they got the "consent of the governed" by your definition.)

    Call you out as a liar.
    1) I never said that.

    No, you refuse to say it, even though you do believe it. Prove me wrong, deny that "consent of the governed" (majority rules) can trump unalienable rights!

    But you did say:

    By "liberty" you mean the liberty to leave when they take all you have, enslave you, and kill you?

    BEFORE – UNLESS YOU'RE EVEN CRAZIER.

    So apparently you do indeed think that when (not if) the majority votes to take everything you have

    You REPEATEDLY deny unalienable rights

    No, I don't. I recognize that government, defined as that which taxes and claims a monopoly of violence, is the antithesis of unalienable rights.

  • ace_m82||

    Didn't finish that one sentence:

    So apparently you do indeed think that when (not if) the majority votes to take everything you have, enslave you and kill you, then they can legitimately do so, if you haven't had the wisdom to leave first.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Are you saying that the enstatement of medicaid way back when involved co-opting charity money from hospitals?

    Which part of this confuses you?

    For 450 years, until Medicaid, HUMANS always paid for uninsured care, voluntarily, of their free choice. In wealthier America, we had universal treatment, regardless of income. Government destroyed that, in effect seizing the donations in taxes.

    Now YOU want to shut down Medicaid ... but YOU arrogantly SHIT on market outcomes ... in free markets ,.; through voluntary choices and decisions ... and YOU will control where the money goes.

    (Details to your request to repeat it.)

    ..On a very basic note, Berniecare or Obamacare or whatever, cannot by any stretch of the imagination be libertarian. …
    ...And "the people" do NOT want it…
    ....There is nothng liberty-oriented about shoving it down everyone's throats, and making everyone pay more taxes for it.

    Who the fuck said otherwise?

    We all would like to see the uninsured and pre-existing conditioned covered, IF it's fiscally possible, but that's a big if.

    Tell Rand Paul, Remy & 90% of the goobers.here

    … particular interpretation about some factoid relating to medicare and charity dollars that, as I explained above

    Based on YOUR false assumptions as noted. My snarkiness responds to yours (based on pulling stuff out of your ass)

  • Michael Hihn||

    FUCK FREE SPEECH

    Why don't they kick him off?

    REPRESS THE TRUTH

    ABSOLUTE VIDEO PROOF ... Rand Paul's shameless Obamacare FRAUD .... so he can pull the strings of his witless puppets .. acer_m82 ... Red Rocks Baiting N Inciting ... even a Fox political hack, KENNEDY

    We PREACH that the private sector IS better -- never that it WAS better .. because anti-gubmint goobers have NO CLUE how to do it any better the state --- and actually REFUSE to RESTORE the private sector. When Rand Paul says JUST REPEAL MEDICAID -- DO NOT shift the money back to private charity -- do what HE wants with the savings, that's AUTHORITARIAN ...

    ... in February. President Trump initially supported "Repeal an Replace, in the same day". Who proposed it ... wait for it .....

    RAND PAUL ... the fraudulent bullshitter that acer and Red Rocks carry water for!

    For the mentally challenged: Transitioning ALL Medicaid funding back to private charity would FULLY RESTORE private charity care ... and FULLY REPEAL Medicaid. Anti-gubmint goobers would repeal PART of Medicaid ... just enough to offset tax cuts for the riich ... while refusing coverage that AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS FREELY FINANCED.

    DISGRACE to liberty. ENABLERS to BernieCare. And their witless puppets. (shudder)

  • John Galt II||

    Well-played, Michael, but I think you're being too kind. You must do what you gotta do. I must do what I gotta do. If you suffer any more attacks, for defending an alternative to cut government the most, on a libertarian website, well, I follow comments on 17 libertarian websites and blogs. If needed, I shall be posting your alert on Kennedy and Rand Paul everywhere I can.

    It's the best I can do to support my fictional namesake.
    If you're religious, God Bless. Either way, He will know my blessing.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Lol at Hihntard responding to his own post with his sockpuppet.

  • Brad G||

    Ha ha..what a delicious parody! -- I spotted it on the daily caller lst, I believe....good stuff.

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