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When it Comes To Trump, the Bulwark’s Charlie Sykes Is ‘All Out of Fucks To Give’: Podcast

Q&A about the rise of right-wing "grifters" such as Charlie Kirk, the death of The Weekly Standard, and the future of the American right.

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"The conservative [movement] needs to be rethought in a variety of ways," says Charlie Sykes, the editor in chief of The Bulwark, the conservative website started in part by William Kristol in the wake of the demise of The Weekly Standard. "There's no question that Trumpism represents a repudiation of much of the conservative tradition, but we're not going to be able to simply turn the clock back."

A longtime radio host and best-selling author based in Milwaukee and early critic of Donald Trump, Sykes says that The Bulwark, whose motto is "conservatism conserved," is a place where the broadly defined right, including libertarians, can go to think through what happened to the Republican Party and what might come next in American politics. Calling Turning Point USA's Charlie Kirk an opportunistic "grifter," Sykes tells Reason that "to the extent that Republicans lash themselves to the mast of Trumpism…they make it more possible that we're going to have President Bernie Sanders and fully nationalized health care."

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29 responses to “When it Comes To Trump, the Bulwark’s Charlie Sykes Is ‘All Out of Fucks To Give’: Podcast

  1. I don’t care for the foul language.

    1. Yeah, Nick, now Crusty will not be able to let his girlfriend read Reason. That kind of language does not belong in the classroom.

    2. It is pretty piss poor. I could cuss better before boot camp!

  2. started in part by William Kristol in the wake of the demise of The Weekly Standard

    That’s encouraging. Kristol, along with David Frum, Max Boot, and Jennifer Rubin, is among the few conservatives worth listening to at a time when the right has been almost entirely taken over by the alt-right. In fact I prefer the neoconservatives over phony, Russia-friendly “progressives” like Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey.

    1. What prominent libertarians are you trying to parody? Non-interventionism has consistently been an issue that unites the left and right branches of libertarianism.

      1. Trump?

      2. I think the character has drifted a bit over time.

    2. Neocons now!

      “Libertarian Moment”

  3. The way I see it, we could either have reality-based conservatism or nostalgia-based conservatism.

    Reality-based conservatism would be conservatism that is capable of adapting to changing circumstances in an evidence-based manner.

    Nostalgia-based conservatism would be conservatism that tries to recreate the past by rejecting ongoing social change.

    Trumpism is basically an appeal to nostalgia using fear of change to motivate its adherents.

    1. Little Jeffy, how can you say that when you have zero sense of reality, and are a total idiot? Trump is trying to fix things, but a stupid ungrateful child like you shits on him at every turn.

    2. racebaitingjeffism is the sowing of the fear, hatred, and resentment of identity politics.

    3. Jeff, what the hell are ya talking about, son?

  4. The conservative movement needs to be rethought . . . as in change or die.

    I vote “die.”

    Perhaps the best way to build a party on the former Republican Party’s foundation — limited government, science, tolerance, competence, education, progress, science, foreign humility — is to work from scratch.

    1. No Arty, people like you will die, if they don’t back off and keep pushing their communism. Look forward to your new address, face down in the landfill if you don’t learn to obey.

      1. Another all-talk malcontent takes time from a busy schedule of complying obediently with the liberal-libertarian mainstream’s preferences to bark like a little doggie.

        Carry on, clinger. While getting ready to toe the line on even more liberal-libertarian progress, of course.

        1. You are a seriously odd person/bot/troll. Whatever you may be, it is 100% odd.

    2. You must be really smart, you listed “science” twice.

      1. Science may the most important factor distinguishing half-educated right-wing malcontents from their betters.

    3. “I want the cultural Marxists to rule the country forever and ever.”

      1. I want to continue to win the culture war. You going to do anything to change how that has been going for more than a half-century of American progress?

  5. Don’t know who this guy is but if Trumpism is a repudiation of the conservative tradition as articulated by Bill Kristol, I say bring it on.

    1. The Establishment grifters are still fuming that the marks got wise.

  6. We’re supposed to care what little Bill Kristol bitches think?

    Fail.

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  8. Reason aligning with the Deep State Globalist Uniparty, whether Right of Left, is part of the general realignment of politics in the Western World.

    On the Right: Government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
    On the Left: Government of the people, by the government , and for the government .

    1. From La Wik:
      Sykes did not support the Donald Trump presidential 2016 bid, campaigning against him and instead choosing to cast a write-in vote for independent conservative candidate Evan McMullin.

      He’s just the right wing of the Deep State Globalist Uniparty, doing his best to destroy the Republican Party as long as it isn’t controlled by the Uniparty.

      1. You figure it’s guys like Sykes, rather than Trump, who are diminishing the Republican Party?

        Which fourth-tier, barely accredited, backwater goober factory is responsible for your level of understanding? Liberty? Wheaton? Hillsdale? Regent? Ouachita Baptist?

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