Could All Parents Have 'Pandemic Pods' If There Were More School Choice? A Soho Forum Debate
As K–12 education goes remote, groups of parents are hiring teachers to teach their kids in person. Is that wrong?

"The latest in school segregation." That's how the headline of a recent New York Times op-ed described private "pandemic pods," in which parents of K–12 students hire an in-person teacher while public schools remain online-only due to COVID-19 lockdowns. The pandemic pods, says the writer, "will exacerbate inequities, racial segregation and the opportunity gap within schools."
Business Insider had a somewhat different take, claiming the pods are "inequitable and inevitable" and "a dream come true for the school choice movement."
Are pandemic pods just the latest tool by which "nice white parents" use their financial and political clout to separate out their kids, thus increasing segregation in education? And if so, is the solution to increase government spending on K–12 schools so that all parents will want to keep their kids in the public system?
That was the subject of an online Soho Forum debate held on Wednesday, September 16, 2020. The Soho Forum is a monthly series sponsored by Reason. The debates are done Oxford-style, which means the audience votes on the resolution at both the beginning and end of the event; the side that gains the most ground is victorious.
Arguing for more government spending was Jon Hale, a professor of education at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. Arguing in favor of pods and other parental innovations was Corey DeAngelis, director of school choice at the Reason Foundation, the nonprofit that publishes this website. Soho Forum Director Gene Epstein moderated the debate.
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How do they know it's just nice white parents using the pods?
Clearly trying to educate your kids when the government refuses to do so is white supremacist behavior. Even black parents who join the pod are white supremacists. It's just white supremacy all the way down.
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No different than politicians sending their kids to DC private schools.
NYT and WaPo have no disagreement with that. Oops.
The pandemic pods, says the writer, "will exacerbate inequities, racial segregation and the opportunity gap within schools."
What's not to like about that?
If we call them 'safe spaces' will that change the idea that they are bad for only certain people?
Read between the lines, Education, your online Pandemic crap and limited schoolroom access isn't getting it done. Smart parents will take their children's education into their own hands at that point rather than follow into the 'everyone must excel but not beyond the lowest common denominator' concept.
As with the 'Rona - identify the vulnerable and step up the program for those in need instead of pulling it all down so none feel left out.
RBG just went tits up. Because 2020 wasn’t nasty enough already
So trump can stop his virus now?
Ginsburg is dead. Let the shitstorm begin
Heads will explode.
Bought extra ammo last week. May not be enough for the shit storm liberals about to push.
At the banks of the Sanzu river millions of aborted kids look up from their rock piles to see a shriveled, rotting soul searching for a place to ford.
Rest in peace. So the Republicans control the White House and the Senate, and have 4 months to select, nominate and confirm a new Justice. What could possibly go wrong?
Susan Collins.
Republicans deciding "it wouldn't be fair?"
Shit is about to get very ugly, especially if T fast tracks a senate vote.
A group of parents hiring a teacher to teach their kids is the way education should be. No administrators, no agenda, just education. If the teacher isn't any good or tries to teach things the parents don't want, they fire him or her and hire someone else. More responsive teachers, more engaged parents, and no taxpayer money squandered.
WhiTe SuPreMaCiSt!!!1!!
Everyone who thinks it's wrong should go on record so parents know who the enemies of their children’s education are.
There's going to be a lot of teachers on that list!
But there will be no educators
If you have to ask whether something is racist, the answer is "yes".
The purpose of public schools isn't to teach general knowledge or critical thinking. The last thing we need in a democracy is a bunch of people who can think for themselves. Do you have any idea how hard it is to lord over people like that? And besides, if you teach them to think for themselves, how do you know they won't think bigoted thoughts? How will they come to learn that anything that gets in they way of equality of outcome is necessarily racist? What if they they their personal achievements are something other than privilege?
No, the purpose of education in this country is 1) so that women with young children can further their careers, and 2) to wring racism, homophobia, misogyny, and xenophobia out of the future.
How do you plan to wring racism out of lily white children in a lily white classroom? And that's just for starters!
Nice try, racist!
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Jesus Christ, of course they're racist. Everything is racist these days. Carrots are racist, gray socks are racist, wishing people a Happy Birthday is racist, picking your nose is racist - and if you don't know why all these things are racist then you're a fucking racist. In fact, even if you do know, you're still a fucking racist.
Speaking of which........
We’ve all seen the commercials on TV for the HIV drug Descovy? The one with all the black people saying things like:
“It’s time to step up,
To prep up”
“To help keep you free
From the risk of HIV”
Why are they trying to hip hop-ize AIDS? And do they really think that black people can only be spoken to in short simple sentences that rhyme?
Let’s end this racist bullshit.
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Someone with a twitter account should really get the ball rolling on this.
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Everything is racist except of course for actual racial discrimination, which isn't racist if it's for the right races.
Now, all white people must all flagellate yourselves with lead-tipped whips, or if they're really masochistic, listen to lengthy seminars on diversity.
"is that wrong?"
A formerly Libertarianish rag even has to ask this?
And who argued for the correct position which is all schooling should be private?
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Fuck the equity fetishists. Time to shove some science and morality up their asses.
Science, or even the most basic objective observations, proves how different we are in every measurable way, from abilities and capacities to desires and priorities.
Morality either respects at least some personal liberty--and associated responsibility--or not. And I do not care how you justify assuming control of others. If you do that, you should be killed.
Desires, priorities, capacities.. none of which are objective at all.
Perhaps in some way ability as in how far you can throw a ball is measurable. Or your score in a test of trigonometry. Yet those things depend on both inherited and learned factors.
Parents choosing and doing what is best for their kids is......up for debate? No it's not. What debate? Fuck you, that's my debate position.
Its only racist if you think free will and freedom of association are racist.
Those are white constructs so of course they're racist.
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