How Many of Us Will Die From the Coronavirus?
Here is the best way to make sense of constantly changing predictions, says Reason Science Correspondent Ronald Bailey

How many people are infected with the coronavirus, what will it mean for our hospitals, and how many will die? Those are the questions at the front of everyone's mind. To get the best possible sense of things, Nick Gillespie talks with Reason's science correspondent, Ronald Bailey, about the constantly changing, often contradictory information coming from official channels.
Audio production by Ian Keyser.
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All of us, because Trump.
Did I do that right?
Well people who don't hate Trump, certainly deserve to die for sure.
Right, unreason?
You nailed it man. Can hardly go a day without the writers here wishing death upon their fellow Americans. Sad!
I'd settle for a day without you constantly crying like a bitch.
I don’t really post here that often. But hey, remember that time that you cried like a bitch for a whole month cause Ken said something you didn’t like? That was neat.
*sigh*
I guess we can try again tomorrow after you've staunched your flow
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Mmmm nah doesn't ring a bell but I do remember you crying like a bitch at me about something before I ran you off.
Was that what you were giving me the Nancy Kerrigan over? Really?
Hahahah sure it doesn’t, bud. Hey, I’m just glad you took the advice of multiple people on this board and left the past behind you. Looking back, it probably seems silly to have gotten that mad about Ken saying you were insufficiently in favor of freedom of association. Which it should, cause it was.
So you decided to cry at me now about something you cried at me about weeks ago, as evidence that you're not constanty crying?
Seems like you need a bigtissue
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Hmmm again dont recall that but I do recall you crying at me and ignoring it while I continued what I was doing.
But you rarely post here and its only ever to cry so maybe you missed it.
“Right by you’re a known liar and a censorious bloviator”
Also lol I like that you gave one reply but then came back for another nine minutes later because you wanted to add more. But no, this place isn’t on your mind 24/7. No sir.
Wow and you're STILL crying man you are super butthurt.
"then came back for another nine minutes later"
"bignose
March.27.2020 at 9:11 pm"
"bignose
March.27.2020 at 9:35 pm"
Lol
Me "god you cry constantly"
you " NU UHHHHH!!!
bignose
March.27.2020 at 8:03 pm
bignose
March.27.2020 at 9:11 pm
bignose
March.27.2020 at 9:35 pm"
/thread
Your crying like a bitch to post ratio is higher than covid death rates.
I’m sorry that I made fun of your friend.
What thread was that in? It would be a fun read after watching you lose your bitch mind and then run when I pointed out how much you cry in this thread.
"bignose
March.27.2020 at 8:03 pm
I don’t really post here that often"
Except, apparently, when someone points out how much he cries, then he can't shut the fuck up.
I asked a question of unreason and they answered with bignose the sock troll.
Maybe not death. But certainly bankruptcy.
Relax, Rush Limbaugh says at most 20,000 can die, because climate models.
https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2020/03/limbaugh-covid-19-is-no-big-deal.html
Progs always want Trump supporters beaten. Yet are incapable of doing it themselves, unless it’s a ten on one fight.
This may be easier for people to watch.
That doesn't look good.
If the article is true, Spain's medical facilities are being stretched beyond capacity so they have to triage.
They mention that at the beginning of the month, there was a massive woman's rights rally in the streets, supported by the Prime Minister.
Don't worry. It'll come around again next month.
Chicks. Can't live with em. Can't live without em. Can't stop em from spreading deadly diseases.
What about that discussion yesterday about really cute sex robots?
Germanys CFR rate is at 0.5%. They also have one of the more random samples of population testing for covid. Yet are dumbfuck governors are still relying on the British model.
In WA, most of the infections, and almost all of the deaths are confined to King and Snohomish counties. Yet the rest of us are locked down anyway.
Jay Inslee is a massive idiot.
if the Trump Admin had flung itself into testing and getting adequate PEP to hospitals , we might have a more strategic approach.
But of course he denied it, then did nothing , then made that worse by creating a situation of states competing for scarce resources.
if , for instance we had enough ventilators so that I felt that with reasonable certainty i could get one if needed, then we would be in another world. I am at risk. So while the epidemiology suggests that this may be not as large a threat as originally thought , to those facing the horrors of a slow strangulation in a hallway in a busy hospital, this is the worst situation imaginable.
I think minds will change when in a few weeks small towns and cities in red america go to their community hospitals with 2 ventilators, MAGAites will storm the Bastille.
BTW for what its is worth to anyone, do you suppose Trump can live with massive loss of life less comfortably than say Stalin?
He could care less it 50M of us die as long as we are Democrats.
In the end its not the Covid 19 pandemic, it is Trump's sociopathic annihilation of alot of us that history will record.
"...BTW for what its is worth to anyone, do you suppose Trump can live with massive loss of life less comfortably than say Stalin?.."
You're doing it wrong, shitstain: Trump = Hitler.
BTW we can hope TDS is fatal in your case; the world will be a better palce.
As many as it takes to clean up the 'reason comment section' of all the right wing Trump supporting loonies!
I just coughed in your general direction, fuck face.
Lol. He realist a fuck face though.
Really is.
See, this is exactly what I mean. But that's ok, keep dishing out the insults. You may or may not get over your cough.
Still hiding in your house like a bitch from a cold bug?
You literally complain about insults after wishing death to people?
Yeah, I guess I did. It seems like i just joined your elite club of douchebags.
Meh we expect it, you are a stupid hypocrite after all.
Dont be like sarcasmic. I dont wish death on dumbfucks. Need people to laugh at
Will you ever get over your AIDS though Tony?
Waaaaa, everyone who disagrees with me is a right wing Trump humper. Waaaaa
Calm down ABC/sarcasmic/chipper/eric/DoL/etc.
I was mocking Wearenotperfect, Jesse. I’ve been posting here for 12 years under the same handle.
I believe jesse was joining in to throw deserved shade at ABC/sarcasmic/chipper/eric/DoL/etc
Fair enough
Nobody wants that kind of death rate dude. That would imply a death rate of 90%. That’s scary.
Hi jeff.
How ever many deaths are predicted by the media, divide by a factor of how many lying media types are writing about it.
Just the dead ones.
No one knows, no one can know.
Who will bury the survivors?
Right drama llama but you eat your own shit and llie about being pro death
How Many of Us Will Die From the Coronavirus?
A tiny fraction of those who will die from the flu, auto accidents, sky diving and drowning in the bath tub.
As I like to say... it is in the noise.
I know of a young lady who caught the flu and then drowned in the shower.
You have no idea what your talking about. The flu, auto accidents, and sky diving don't crash health care systems in literally EVERY country they effect.
Do yourself a favor and pull you're head out of your ass before you're caught Condition White
Except that’s not true, as shown on this very website.
https://pnhp.org/news/nhs-strains-under-flu-epidemic/
The NHS! Hahaha!
Which other healthcare systems would you like links to? Influenza causes a massive overload on every country’s healthcare system every flu season.
Here’s one from the US from last year:
http://www.statnews.com/2018/01/15/flu-hospital-pandemics
Guys,
Before I succumb to COVID-19 can you Trumpian dicksuckers answer an existential question so I can answer it when Jesus asks me about it. Take this...
Looks like a third rate Grandstander named @RepThomasMassie, a Congressman from, unfortunately, a truly GREAT State, Kentucky, wants to vote against the new Save Our Workers Bill in Congress. He just wants the publicity. He can’t stop it, only delay, which is both dangerous......
When it comes to the Constitution or a proclamation from perfect Dear Leader which one wins out? If I don't answer correctly I'm afraid that I'll be thrown into a Lake of Fire for eternity because Jesus and Gawd love me so much. Thanks!
You're already dead to me.
It clearly bothers you that all this shook out in Trump's favor and all your stupid panic was a joke.
American Socialist
March.27.2020 at 7:11 pm
"Guys,..."
Shitstain...
an existential question so I can answer it when Jesus asks me about it.
Jesus already knows you didn't pay your bills.
You know Trump attacked Massie for the stunt, right Jeff? You agree with Trump. You're a fucking Trump dick sucker.
You know, the other day on the news they reported that with opening day of the baseball season being suspended, stadiums expected to be full of eager fans were instead empty this day. They then cut to Asian Reporter Tricia Takanawa, reporting live from in front of the empty stadium, to confirm that, yes indeed, the stadium was empty, the parking lot was empty, the plaza in front of the stadium was empty, the concession stands were empty, the field was empty, the whole goddamn place was empty, so screw you, all you non-believers who doubted our news report that the stadium was empty - there's the proof!
It reminded me of the endless reports you see when a hurricane strikes Florida, the news anchor reports there's a hurricane and then they cut to the reporter standing out there in a 60-mile-an-hour wind in the middle of a flooded street with airborne horses and cows flying by in the background saying "See? It's a hurricane! We told you so, but you didn't believe us, did you? No, I got to haul my ass down to Fort Lauderdale just to show you Doubting Thomases that we weren't just making this shit up! It's a goddamn hurricane! Do you believe us now?"
And then it occurred to me, you know, they keep claiming there's a bunch of people who have died from the coronavirus......
Sure, except when reporters get busted for faking things. Like when some dare-devil Florida hurricane weather reporter appeared to be submerged up to his waist and bent over in howling wind, only to be busted when two guys casually walked behind him in ankle-deep water.
Don't worry, in a short time you'll be able to see some of those people dying first hand
Love the throwaway sock for when it doesn't happen
What's JFree going to do?
Get mocked. Like the crybaby upthread did.
Under 5K is my prediction (this season at least)
My over under was around 15k, but guessing now under 10.
How many will die from an economy ruined by the manufactured panic?
To be fair, probably not as many.
But the right (and harder) question is how many years of life saved from COVID-19, mostly old people, is worth how many years of suffering and diminished life experience for everyone else?
What’s a few hundred thousand broken eggs if it brings about the glorious revolution and ushers in a new Socialist paradise.
Well thanks to a bit of Keynesian socialist intervention from the party of Not Socialism probably not many.
Fuck off and die, commie kid.
Why do you assume that the economy would have been just fine if we had all ignored it and gone about our business? Do you really think that the alternative will have NO economic impact?
The economy was fucked no matter what. This is a question of how much of our workforce are we going to lose over this, which will in turn affect how quickly we can get back up on our feet.
The only GOOD thing about the virus is that it will relieve the pressure on the social security fund... and that it has probably done more to stop mass shootings than any gun control measure ever has!
Because he’s not a lying, retarded piece of shit like you?
"Why do you assume that the economy would have been just fine if we had all ignored it and gone about our business? Do you really think that the alternative will have NO economic impact?"
Need a hand with that strawman? The scumbag commie-kid is just up-thread and could use some money to pay his mortgage.
"The economy was fucked no matter what."
Your TDS ate your cite.
"The only GOOD thing about the virus is that it will relieve the pressure on the social security fund… and that it has probably done more to stop mass shootings than any gun control measure ever has!"
We can hope that the virus and your TDS will be fatal in your case.
Covid caused the panic, which caused the economic damage, so covid really is the killer democrats hoped for.
When are you fucking right-wing leeches getting your Welfare check from the government? I make too much money so I don’t get jack. Fuck man... socialism sucks.
So getting tax money back is bad?
There is no money. The US is already 23 trillion in debt. It is fiat, money, printed money (now electronic credits) or funny money, what ever you prefer to call it.
You will pay for it, the government will pick your pocket every time you buy something in that great hidden tax called inflation. Inflation will be rampant. Also those "cheap" things you buy from China will be way more expensive, and this devalues the dollar.
Enjoy that $1200 in tax money, while those benevolent, humanitarian, offshore multi-national corporations enjoys $500 billion of our money.
"Inflation will be rampant"
Yup, THIS $2t is what's finally gonna do it
"There is no money"
Ah you decided you were going to lie instead of answer the question.
Ok liar try this. There's plenty of money. The debt is for running the country, but the checks are tax money being returned.
Now what fucktard?
"enjoys $500 billion of our money.'
A second ago you said there wasn't any money fucktard.
I won't be getting any either. I'll be paying my own mortgage again this month.
You make over 90k (or whatever the cut off is)? Hey guys, look at the bourgeoisie asshole!
Makes one wonder why he doesn't pay his mortgage
Not really, he’s a piece of human garbage. That’s all anyone needs to know.
Fair enough, your point is convincing.
I’m here to point out your contradictions. Not mine, ok?
And dodge questions.
I highly doubt you can find one right leaning person here who advocated for them sending out checks to people. And before you argue otherwise, a tax holiday or cut is not the same as writing someone a check with money you don’t actually have.
Lots of "right leaners" were fine with the checks as the least bad "do something" option.. There was no escaping some Keynesian demand side shit so the right course should have been "go big on that and do little to nothing else".Better than buying up bad debts, nationalizing the airlines, bailing out Boeing and offering the "casino industry" nearly a $1 trillion LoC.
No, the right leaners were okay with the payroll tax holiday, not free money.
And continue to make an ass of yourself in print.
You're canadian. That's why you get nothing, Jeff.
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Hey Lex Villena, the image used for this article includes a Russian type gas mask and the person is suited up in a protective suit but has no gloves on.
Lets try to keep this wuhanvirus hysteria American centric, will ya?
BTW: Erik Townsend has done a number podcast shows on the Coronavirus under the "Hot Topics" section of the Macrovoices Podcast. Here is a link to them.....just look for Covid-19 or Coronavirus: https://www.macrovoices.com/podcasts-collection/macrovoices-hot-topic-podcasts
do you want to know when this situation goes critical?
when citizens of Red Collin County , TX, a white affluent suburban county adjacent to Dallas , TX and finds a black person taking up the last ventilator.
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Just before 1 p.m. Friday, state police were set up on Interstate 95 northbound, at the rest stop closest to the Connecticut border. A mile or two before that, motorists could see signs ordering all New York passenger vehicles to pull over at the rest stop.
One trooper could be seen there, checking license plates as cars went by. At the stop itself, a number of officers were assembled around a tent, ready to question vehicle occupants.
Just blatantly unconstitutional stops.
Note to self: Start accumulating out of state license plates.
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Poor Matt Welch. Normally this kind of attention would get him into Cosmo parties but not during the hysterics.
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Segment: What Lefties think.
'A game changer': FDA authorizes Abbott Labs' portable, 5-minute coronavirus test the size of a toaster
Can I get bagels with that?
Kroger, Walmart have already hired tens of thousands of new employees
No wonder the media doesn't want Americans to brush off their Propaganda hysteria. Americans companies will ramp back up with hirings, thereby limiting this economic drop.
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Covid-19 doubling cycle for the month of March:
03 MAR
12 deaths
09 MAR
Needed to double - 24
Actual: 27 (6 days)
13 MAR
Needed to double: 48
Actual 50 (4 days)
17 MAR
Needed to double: 96
Actual: 110 (4 days)
19 MAR
Needed to double: 192
Actual 207 (2days)
22 MAR
Needed to double: 384
Actual 414 (3 days)
24 MAR
Needed to double: 768
Actual 778 (2 days)
27 MAR
Needed to double: 1,536
Actual 1,696 (3 days)
28 MAR
Needed to double: 3,072
Actual 2,227 (on track to double in 3 days)
Raw data source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/¸
According to the Johns Hopkins count, as of 3/29, the count is 1898. Not 2227
According to the CDC, as of 3/28 it was 1668.
The numbers are flawed.
Woldometer documents their sources and is transparent with them so check that before you question a source. The CDC is lagging behind and has been for a month. Johns Hopkins isn’t as internet savvy.
The numbers are flawed.
Why?
"Worldometer documents their sources and is transparent with them so check that before you question a source. The CDC is lagging behind and has been for a month. Johns Hopkins isn’t as internet savvy."
Because there aren't any universally accepted sources.
And your link doesn't work.
Thank god that at least the statisticians have employment. She has a weird sense of humor.
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