Ex-Presidents We Want to Drink With: Podcast
This week's show covers the John Kelly phone flap, former presidents against Trump, and why Republicans are only pretending to be worried about the budget.
Last week, Barack Obama and George W. Bush emerged from the mothballs to criticize Trumpian dog-whistling and strategic incivility. Jimmy Carter, however, said he thinks Trump gets a raw deal from the press and appears to be plugging for a diplomatic posting. Was bipartisanship really better before Donald showed up? Did it accomplish anything?
On today's podcast, Reason's Nick Gillespie, Katherine Mangu-Ward, and Matt Welch discuss these issues, and the slain-soldier spat between Trump, White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, and Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.), which seems to be distracting the public from bigger, bloodier problems. Also: why Republicans can't sat they're anti-tax but not actually in favor of fiscal discipline, why Matt Welch may be pro-pirate, and which former U.S. presidents Katherine Mangu-Ward would like to drink with. The conversation was moderated by Andrew Heaton.
Some relevant links from the show:
- Jordan Fabian and Jonathan Easley for The Hill: "John Kelly Defends Trump on Calls, Lashes Out at Florida Democrat"
- Sheldon Richman for Reason: "The Truth About Niger"
- Robert O'Brian and Jerry Hendrix for National Review: "Why the United States Needs a 355-ship Navy Now"
- BBC News: "Obama and Bush Decry Deep US Divisions Without Naming Trump"
- Maureen Dowd for The New York Times: "Jimmy Carter Lusts for a Trump Posting"
- The Commission on Presidential Debates: "The Carter-Reagan Presidential Debate"
- Gabby Morrongeillo for The Washington Examiner: "Steve Bannon's War on the Republican Party Will Go On With Or Without Trump's Blessing."
- Matt Welch for Reason: "Republicans Officially Give Up Trying to Cut Spending"
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If KMW doesn't say she wants to drink with Grover Cleveland, I will assume it's because he would drink her under the table.
I always thought Bush (the second one) would have been a far better occasional drinking buddy than president, though that bar is low as hell. These other guys? Nah.
Watch out for those DUIs with Boosh.
Me: Warren G. Harding. I'll drink with any President that openly drank during Prohibition.
It would be really interesting to have a one-on-one, off-the-record, night of drinking with any former president. I'd love to see the mask slip as much as possible, just for my own edification. I mean, are they actually convinced that they've helped people by "serving" in office? Or are they willing to admit that it was all a play for power and ego.
The Reason Podcast Drinking Game: Take a drink every time...
* Nick says "this shit is fucked up"
* Matt name drops Brooklyn
* Katherine poses as a purist
* Andrew doesn't catch a cultural reference, betraying his age as half that of anyone else on the podcast
Andrew is the most charming addition to this in awhile, and I hate when he makes a good joke and they don't react.
He's so cute with those dimples! They'll probably go away when he grows up though.
Definitely Buchanan. The only Bachelor president must have been a party animal.
Funny, Bush wouldn't say a cross word about Obama's issues while he was in office. Weird...
When did reason start parroting the mythical "dog whistles" garbage?