Marijuana Policy in the Trump Era

Reason sat down with experts and advocates to discuss the state legalization, science, and the marijuana industry.

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has called marijuana "only slightly less awful" than heroin. But with cannabis legal in 28 states and Washington, D.C., it's clear that federal and state drug policies are at odds. Does the Trump administration want to stop marijuana legalization? How is California dealing with the uncertainty that surrounds this legal industry? What can we expect in the next four years and beyond?

On April 20, 2017, Reason hosted a panel of experts interested in the state of marijuana legalization. Lynne Lyman, California State Director of the Drug Policy Alliance, Diane Goldstein of Law Enforcement Action Partnership, Kenny Morrison, president of the California Cannabis Manufacturer's Association and founder of the edibles manufacturer VCC Brands, and Jeff Chen, a researcher at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, answered questions from Reason TV's Zach Weissmueller as well as viewers watching live on Facebook about the future of marijuana in America, what California's market might look like, how law enforcement is reacting to the changes, and the current state of marijuana science.

Hosted by Zach Weissmueller. Edited by Alex Manning. Camera by Manning and Paul Detrick.

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[ddcannady]

Prohibiting an adult American from ingesting substances of their own choosing is the same as taking ownership of a person's body. There is no more profound infringement of one's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That our legal system has degenerated this far from the ideals of our Founders is the measure of how little regard for individuals our culture currently has. It is the source of the disrespect for the law and for each other that has created such an uncivil society. It's caused by many similar laws, such as those prohibiting gambling and other personal consensual behaviors, but drug laws are the primary offense.

[b4integrity]

"Prohibiting an adult American from ingesting substances of their own choosing is the same as taking ownership of a person's body."

Exactly right. When the government prohibits an individual adult person from ingesting: herbs; cacti; mushrooms; coca leaves; or any substance that affects the functioning of the human body/mind; then, the government has declared that persons are government property, subject to control & domination by the government. This is slavery and is proscribed by Amendment XIII.

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Part 1

Do you think President* Trump and AG* Sessions are deliberately refusing to answer my March communication to each of them about tobacco & alcohol and the CSA?

https://tinyurl.com/doj-webform

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Attorney General Sessions:

The Controlled Substances Act (CSA) states:
"The Congress makes the following findings and declarations:
(1) The Congress has long recognized the danger involved in the manufacture, distribution, and use of certain psychotropic substances for nonscientific and nonmedical purposes, and has provided strong and effective legislation to control illicit trafficking and to regulate legitimate uses of psychotropic substances in this country. Abuse of psychotropic substances has become a phenomenon common to many countries, however, and is not confined to national borders. It is, therefore, essential that the United States cooperate with other nations in establishing effective controls over international traffic in such substances."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/801a

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Part 2

Tobacco & alcohol are psychotropic (mood-altering) substances, affecting mental activity, behavior, or perception when ingested.
Tobacco & alcohol are the two most deadly & dangerous of all drugs.
Tobacco drug use accounts for more drug deaths (~480,000 tobacco drug deaths/year) than the summation of the drug deaths from the use of all other drugs, including alcohol, combined!

Are there any scientific and/or medical purposes for the use of the psychotropic substances tobacco & alcohol? If there are, what are the scientific & medical purposes for the use of tobacco & alcohol?
What are the legitimate uses of the psychotropic substances, tobacco & alcohol, in this country?
What is(are) the reason(s) that tobacco & alcohol are exempt from the CSA [21 U.S.C. ? 802(6)]?

Why haven't you called for Congress to either:
1) Repeal the exemptions of tobacco & alcohol from the CSA and classify tobacco as the schedule I controlled substance it is by definition, and alcohol as the schedule II controlled substance it is by definition; or
2) Repeal the entire CSA and abolish the DEA?

[MamaLiberty]

b4integrity, what makes any of this your business? What makes any of this the business of any level of "government?"

You can avoid whatever substances you think are harmful. Neither you nor any government, politician or doctor can make that choice for you. Not one molecule we ingest is anyone else's business - unless we steal it from them.

Every single molecule of food, water and air - and everything else we take in, including what lands on our skin and hair... has a physical and psychological affect on us. Some are easily noted and even measured, most are not. Many can be avoided completely.

The "legitimate use" of anything rests in the will of the individual. What he or she does with it is their responsibility, along with the consequences - both to themselves and anyone they may harm because of it.

"Repeal the entire CSA and abolish the DEA?"

That would be a great start.

[b4integrity]

MamaLiberty said: "b4integrity, what makes any of this your business? What makes any of this the business of any level of "government?"

You can avoid whatever substances you think are harmful."

How can an adult consumer of drugs, whether: tobacco; alcohol; heroin; methamphetamine; cocaine; antibiotics; antihypertensives; hormones; analgesics; coffee; cannabis; et.al. avoid purchasing substances that the adult consumer thinks "are harmful", unless the government mandates a national drug law that:
* ensures drugs offered for sale in interstate commerce for adults are pure & unadulterated, and
* ensures drugs offered for sale in interstate commerce for adults branded properly?

We almost had such a law, the "Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906", but the powerful tobacco & alcohol drug lords prevented the two most deady & dangerous of ALL drugs, tobacco & alcohol, from being included, saying that their hard drugs were recreational drugs and not "medicines".

As a start to a new national drug policy based on honesty, integrity, and liberty, step 1 is to make tobacco & alcohol subject to our national OTC drug law, and restrict sales of any drug to adults only (parents or guardians of minors will purchase drugs for minors needing drugs and oversee & be responsible for the minors' use of drugs).

Step 2 is to pass a national drug law requiring every adult drug purchaser to have a drug license in order to purchase drugs, like having a drivers license in order to drive a vehicle.

[MamaLiberty]

You do seem to have serious delusions of omnipotence. The current "war on drugs" has created nothing but chaos, death and destruction everywhere - not to mention the loss of individual liberty across the world. And you want to expand that? Have you read anything about the horror and destructiveness of the alcohol prohibition in the 20s? How does a "license" from government protect anyone from anything? It can't and does not.

The "government" war on drugs, guns and almost everything else - including all of the licensing scam - is NOT about our safety, health or liberty. It is always and only about CONTROL. And pretending that this control is somehow good for individuals is insane.

What I choose to own, use, ingest is simply not your business. You have no business deciding what I use for "medicine" or recreation, or for anything else. Nor anyone else's business. You are free to defend yourself if I aggress against you, of course, but that's it.

There is absolutely NO "honesty, integrity or liberty" involved in any statist control over your life or mine.

I own my life and my body. I am the only one who is responsible for that life and my safety. That's why I carry a gun... and mind my own business. I work in voluntary association with others, and negotiate any differences with mutual respect.

[b4integrity]

MamaLiberty said: "The current "war on drugs" has created nothing but chaos, death and destruction everywhere - not to mention the loss of individual liberty across the world. And you want to expand that?"

What happened to your reading comprehension? Why do you incorrectly assume I want to "expand that" (what is "that", the current 'war on drugs'?)

Please show what I have posted that indicates that I want to expand the war on drugs less deadly & dangerous than tobacco & alcohol.

[Hank Phillips]

Almost true. In fact, bureaucrats and A.G. Bonaparte used the law to justify taking definitions out of the U.S. Pharmacopoeia and giving them the force of law. Whisky was thus defined in a way that excluded neutral grain spirits, blends and glucose-based ethanol. These and other arguments were the underlying causes of the Panic of 1907, which began with prohibitionist chokeholds on the testes of trusts and holding companies that owned a lot of ice house assets. If the enforcers had stuck to truth in advertising that Pure Food law would have done more good than harm. But it did block US forms from shipping morphine-doped products to China, which was the primary concern at the time.
But the licensing idea is dumb. Proof of contractual competence separates adults from kids and idiots.

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This was brilliant! Zach did a great job of rounding up a range of viewpoints and weaving them into a delightful and educational narrative on solutions to the economic problem. Yes, economic. Once people realize that the Great Depression was caused by Republican exploitation of tax laws for asset-forfeiture looting in 1929-33, 1987-92, 2000, 2007-11 and even the recent flash crashes shredding your retirement savings, the prohibition debate will again change the way it did in 1932. Voters waved GOP fascism bye-bye for five consecutive elections before eventually forgetting why.