America's Hippest Street: "A Cycle of Bohemians Hating Each Other"
St. Mark's is Dead author Ada Calhoun talks about the capital of the counterculture.
"The hippies didn't much like the Beatniks and they really hated the punks. The punks didn't much like the hippies and they really hated the hardcore kids. So it's been this cycle of bohemians hating each other," says Ada Calhoun, author of the acclaimed book St. Mark's is Dead: The Many Lives of America's Hippest Street.
A native of the four-block-stretch in Manhattan's East Village which has served as the nation's capital of the counterculture for more than a hundred years, Calhoun spoke with Reason TV about her book which lovingly details the endless creative destruction that has kept St. Mark's Place a vibrant home for everyone from early 20th century anarchists to Andy Warhol and the Velvet Underground, to the punk rockers of the CBGBs era, to the hardcore kids and skaters of the 80s, to the lamented NYU students of today.
In an area where the only constant is upheaval, Calhoun thinks it's "sweet" that every generation of cultural iconoclasts that have set up shop on St. Mark's is certain their time was the only "authentic" time, and that the area is still a "magical" place for young people even today.
Runtime about seven minutes.
Produced by Anthony L. Fisher. Camera by Jim Epstein with help from Dan Rogenstein.
Music: "Dirt" by Jahzzar
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So wait are you saying that non-comformist youth tend to conform rigidly to their in group's style, beliefs and prejudices? It is almost like there is some sort of aging based development going on.
It is a byproduct of the myelination of the frontal lobe and, thankfully, temporary in most cases.
Except most young people can't afford to live there anymore, not even by the old standards of cramming 3 or 4 to an apartment and living on ramen. At what point is a neighborhood full of trustafarians in any sense "countercultural"?
Manhattan sure has changed a lot in the last 25-30 years.
Yeah, I remember moving from Queens to Chelsea and thinking "wow, I can finally afford it". Too bad it was boring with all the rich people around and I couldn't afford groceries. And that was almost 10 years ago.
She should take some of the book money and do something about her teeth.
Still....Crusty would.
Kill it with fire, and salt the earth.
How now, what would Zeppelin have put on the cover of Physical Graffiti?
Jimmy Page invoking Andromalius.
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
I was going to say that you aren't really an iconoclast if you're just doing what everyone else in your peer group is doing, but then I realized everyone else was saying the same thing so I would be doing exactly what I'm criticizing.
This is so meta.
Just say you're doing it ironically.
Well, since the theme is meta, can you be ironic ironically?
A moratorium on the words "vibrant" and "authentic" would be nice.
That was not supposed to be in response to Irish. My kingdom for a delete button.
Some vibrant authentic vibes coming from the commentariat today.
"Put on the uniform of non-conformity!"
St Marks stopped being cool when Coney Island High closed, and it was arguably deader than Kennedy well before that. It was nothing but japanese tourists and suburban kids buying used-t-shirts and one-hitters all through the 1990s.
So, the exact opposite of dead?
That's the definition of 'culturally dead'.
Japanese tourists are the vultures who circle above dying things, swooping in to buy lots of memorabilia and drive up prices as a trend is dying...
...and suburban kids are like the maggots feasting on the entirely-dead-corpse, only showing up when its "safe", and gradually taking over all the bars and restaurants whose leases are gradually expiring. Shortly thereafter yuppie bars open up in these areas and the rents begin to skyrocket. When you see strollers and sushi bars, that means there's at least 10 years of strata burying anything that used to be 'hip'.
Creepy.
You're aware, right, that there was a time when sushi was cutting edge? When it wasn't a fixture on every cheap Chinese buffet? When it was the purview of the 'hip', the wealthy, or the weird? There was a time when, if you wanted bright pink hair dye you had to go to an obscure shop on an obscure street to get it- drugstores and supermarkets carried only standard colors.
The poser kids(not always suburban) are the ones who take the stuff out of the area and spread it everywhere--they serve a purpose.
And people were decrying the yuppization of St Marks when that word was new.
This cycle repeats.
And you're a good sign, Gilmore. The 'tards who only go places because they're cool will see this book and comments like yours and begin their cyclical abandonment--leaving renovated apartments for real people to move into--which will cause the next renaissance of the weird St Marks culture in it's new shape.
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Ship these fuckers back to Bohemia where they came from and make pay for the wall!
"east village", my ass. It's the lower east side. Only douchebag real estate promoters call it the "east village".
-jcr
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'Tain't nuthin'. Night before last, the Mods & the rockers fought it out on Prove It All Night in Monty Hall.
when the 'hippies' appeared alongside the 'beats', it was mostly kids with long hair that were hated on main st, USA.
what journalists ignore is that these 1960's movements were open to all races and religions.
unlike the rest of America, everyone could mingle.that was my personal experience from NYC, 1966, and Haight Ashbury,1967.the hippies didn't integrate because of federal legislation.it was all spontaneous and natural.
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