Hillary Clinton's Big Lie About Edward Snowden…
...is that the NSA whistleblower could have gone through proper channels, says Snowden's lawyer.
What was Hillary Clinton's biggest lie during the first Democratic debate?
That NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden could have gone through official channels.
"He broke the laws," said Clinton. "He could have been a whistleblower, he could have gotten all the protections of being a whistleblower."
Snowden's lawyer, Jesselyn Radack of ExposeFacts.org, begs to differ. "For the people out there shouting that Edward Snowden should have gone through proper channels," she tells Reason TV, "there are not that many channels for national security and intelligence whistleblowers. They are excluded from most avenues available to other whistleblowers."
More important is the experience of NSA and intelligence whistleblowers who came before Snowden.
"Tom Drake, Bill Binney, Kirk Wiebe, and Ed Loomis did go through the proper channels," says Radack. "And all of them fell under criminal investigations for having done so."
Hillary Clinton has a right her own opinion about the value and damage done by Snowden's revelations, but she's simply not credible when she argues he could have worked through official channels.
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You know, I have just a little bit of difficulty taking someone who rerouted all the classified information that came across her desk through a private e-mail server seriously when it comes to assessing the whistleblower status of someone who alerted the public to the fact that the government she was a part of was spying on them.
Actually that makes her statement more plausible. If Hillary isn't in jail, what would Eric have to worry about?
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Enough Snowden: fake scandal.
Can the Feds just leave him alone so we can all get back to work for the American people?
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Meaningful democratic decisions require the public have information about the government's behavior, and Snowden's revelations contributed to that information whereas hillary protected her administration from scrutiny. The former made a difference, the latter preserved the status quo.
Meaningful government decisions are made with the public too disinterested in the government's behavior to get past simple minded soundbites.
"ou know, I have just a little bit of difficulty taking someone who rerouted all the classified information that came across her desk through a private e-mail server seriously when it comes to assessing the whistleblower status of someone who alerted the public to the fact that the government she was a part of was spying on them."
Or how about taking someone seriously who talks about using official channels and communicating the right way, who's also routing all of her email through her own personal server stored in her bathroom closet?
Hypocrite much, Hillary?
Anyway, yeah, he could have been a whsitleblower. For hm, that still likely involved a decade or so of prison time earned immediately at the go of it. Damn it, he's such a dick for not going that route, isn't he?
There are low level employees fired outright, immediately, and then prosecuted for what Hillary has done.
But our wonderful media cheers when its suggested they stop covering it.
It's all about fairness and equality.
We have to give powerful people like Hillary an exception to the rules, so she can acquire power and use it to rectify all the unfairness and inequality. Then, everything can be more fair and equal.
Duh.
Didn't Matt Iglesias argue just that a week or so ago? That she's just the outlaw we need right now?
Would love to learn more about these low level employees. Got some names for me to look up, or maybe a link or 2?
Thanks in advance 🙂
Would love to learn more about these low level employees. Got some names for me to look up, or maybe a link or 2?
Thanks in advance 🙂
Everyone Snowden would have blown his whistle to already knew of the illegal programs (intelligence officials, Congress) or didn't want to know about the illegal programs (others in Congress).
And the ones who did want to know about the illegal programs were lied to by the Director of National Intelligence.
Here's the trouble with whistleblowing: if you want it to actually work then the "channels" you choose have to go directly to people in charge of the crooks, not people the crooks are in charge of. If the crooks infest and manipulate Congress, your last hope is to go straight to their bosses. It's a shame their bosses are neglecting our jobs, of course, but it was worth a try.
"He broke the laws," said Clinton. "He could have been a whistleblower, he could have gotten all the protections of being a whistleblower."
This is rich coming from that criminal.
And the Obama administration has put numerous whistleblowers in jail.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there you two. Are you actually suggesting that Hillary Clinton, of all people, is a liar?
Also, you know who else told a Big Lie?
The rightwing provacateurs who suggested Slick Willy diddled Monica Lewinsky?
/sarc
"Hillary Clinton has a right her own opinion about the value and damage done by Snowden's revelations, but she's is simply not credible when she argues. he could have worked through official channels. "
"Hillary Clinton has a right her own opinion about the value and damage done by Snowden's revelations, but she's is simply not credible when she argues. he could have worked through official channels. "
1. tldw
2. given 1., not sure if they mention the other major stumbling block, and that is the meager paper protections they offer do NOT apply to contractors, as he was, as MANY are...
AS IF those protections have actually helped ANYONE thus far who IS a bonafide gummint employee...
(a dirty secret not exposed enough: just HOW MUCH of our sekurity state is outsourced to private companies; of course, often done deliberately to AVOID having to conform to rules/laws that 'real' gummint entities are liable for...)
Clinton is simply parroting what others have said because that hyperbole plays well with the public. Politicians are essentially salespeople whose product is themselves. She's selling the impression that she's reasonable.
Seems many at reason have swallowed a lot of the neocon kool aid
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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Jefferson?
Pig-ignorant, deliberately mendacious, or both?
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Gillespie says, "She's simply not credible, when she says, 'he could have worked through official channels.'" I think he could have been just as accurate by saying, "She's simply not credible, when she says."
A pathetic human being.
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