Should Denver Allow Private Pot Clubs?
Weed is legal in Colorado. But it's illegal to consume it in most public locations.
On January 1, 2014, Colorado became one of the first states to allow recreational marijuana sales. But the law contains one little twist.
"People can buy it. They can use it. But in a lot of cases, they don't have anywhere they can use it legally," says Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project.
Yes, weed is legal in Colorado. But it's illegal to consume it in most public locations.
It's become a big issue for a state that's attracting record numbers of tourists who are curious to try cannabis, but have no safe legal place to do so. In fact, since Colorado legalized marijuana, public consumption citations have increased 471 percent.
Denver business owner Ryan Connolly, who operates Grassroots Clothing and the 710 Cannabis Cup, says he began to notice the problem when people from out of town came to his store for help. "Once customers started buying legal weed, they would come to our store and shop for clothes and always ask us the question, 'Where can I smoke this?' And this question started to happen more and more where we actually just couldn't ignore it anymore."
So with the help of his attorney, Ryan created a private membership marijuana club that operated in an unused space in his clothing store.
"There is an exception in the Colorado Indoor Air Act for private member clubs. So the VFW, the Odd Fellows, the Elks Club—things of that nature—are all allowed to smoke within their businesses provided that they are organized for private membership," states Jeff Gard, a Boulder-based attorney who represents Connolly and has successfully established private marijuana clubs in several Colorado counties.
Under this private membership model, Ryan's Breakroom tallied 4,000 members in just over a year. Even stars like Cheech Marin stopped by when visiting Denver. The private pot club operated without incident until police raided the location on the eve of Denver's 4/20 festivities.
"I think they were a little surprised to find that this is a private membership club that they had to sign up as members to become part of—that there wasn't anything going on from the perspective of the Breakroom that was arguably illegal," says Gard.
Though the Denver police department did not charge any of the members with a crime, they cited Connolly for operating a marijuana business without a license and for violating the Clean Indoor Air Act. But the ordeal didn't end there. After citing him for licensing violations, the city went one step further and threatened Connolly's landlord with a public nuisance abatement if they did not evict him from the premises.
"The eviction is what hurts the most," says Connolly. "We have over 20 staff that I want to make sure we keep jobs for all of them. They rely on me for a paycheck and so that's what's most important."
Connolly appeared in court in July to pay his fines and is moving to a new location in Denver. Though he was forced out of his space, Connolly hopes the experience will inspire change in the current law.
"I think its the peoples' choice now to step up and look at these instances where they are still wasting our taxpayer money and going after something you would think would be a respectable thing to do—which is offer someone from out of state a safe place to smoke," Connolly says.
As Ryan moves forward, a debate is unfolding between marijuana policy advocates and city leaders on how to address the public consumption issue. Denver's office of marijuana policy says Amendment 64 clearly states that marijuana is only to be used for private and personal use and that the initiative was not designed to accommodate tourists. But that hasn't stopped visitors or local residents from consuming pot in public.
Though marijuana advocates had collected signatures to place an ordinance allowing private pot clubs like Connolly's on the November ballot, they pulled the measure in September with the hopes of working on a compromise with city officials.
"A majority of people are not scofflaws," says Gard. "We understand that rules are necessary for order of society, so just tell us where to do this and we will go do that. If you want to quit writing public consumption tickets…then creating a private environment for that makes perfect sense."
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It may be illegal to consume it publicly but it is, and has always been, lawful. Yes, there is a difference if you understand our system of law and who you are.
Or just do what I do. Toddle off to the men's room and use your dry herb vaporizer in a bathroom stall where no one will see or even smell it. Use a wide stance if necessary.
When I went last year I just got some oil and vaped it walking down the street. Unless you blow it right in a cops face you're safe.
Yeah that's why I've switched to. Little pen sized value full of oil. Puffing on it as we speak, in a very crowded pub.
* what I've switched to.
Word! Medical consumption in public isn't a problem with the use of vaporizers, edibles and tincture.
It's rather silly that private locations are not allowed to set their own policy on marijuana use.
Regarding public spaces, you'd like to think that common sense and common decency would take care of any problems ("Hey, I have kids here!" // "Sorry, I'll go 50 feet this way"), but that seems unlikely.
"you'd like to think that common sense and common decency would take care of any problems ("Hey, I have kids here!" // "Sorry, I'll go 50 feet this way"), but that seems unlikely."
^ This. I recently was riding a bus in Oakland CA and a guy tried to get on with a lit joint in his hand. The bus driver informed him that there was no smoking on the bus, and the guy proceeded to sputter with outrage that he wasn't smoking *tobacco*!!1!
Not that I support prohibition of anything at all, or would have law enforcement enforce common sense and common decency - I actually think a lot of our problems with lacking common sense and decency come from the expectation that anything offensive would be against the law, and therefore anything not against the law is by nature not offensive.
There are private locations in Colorado where marijuana use is actually encouraged. Bud and Breakfast is much like a bed and breakfast except they cater to the marijuana crowd. They are located in Denver and Colorado Springs that I know of. Really nice place with like-minded people.
Overall the State and City should not be telling people what they can and cannot smoke in a private establishment.
But, since they do, the question is whether MJ gets treated any differently than any other smoke - ie. Does Denver have cigar bars?
Does Denver have cigar bars?
Yes. But remember, we're talking about the Devil Weed here. Logic and common sense are out the window.
I haven't been to Colorado in a few years, so I suspect MJ is still the Devil Weed at least in the Springs. But in Denver/Boulder/Ft. Collins the Devil Weed is tobacco, and has largely been driven out by their state Clean Indoor Air Act.
"If you want to quit writing public consumption tickets..."
I think I found the problem.
Use your brain and a bullet pipe and you should be fine.
why does one need a "license" to operate a business?
Because statists gonna state.
why does one need a "license" to operate a business?
ibid.
Why is anyone na?ve enough to think that they want to quit writing those tickets? When has the state ever forgone a source of revenue?
I think all drugs should be legal, but not used. I've never used drugs because I always wanted to be in control of myself. I own my body and I should be able to grow my own opium for pain medicine. I should not have to go to a doctor and pay him an extortion fee and permission to do something with my own body. If I do, then I am the slave to the doctor. Nor should big pharma have a monopoly on drugs. If someone does harm to another person while using drugs the use of drugs should not be allowed as a defense and the criminal should be charged with intent to do harm. Do not use drugs.
"Do not use drugs."
So no aspirin for a headache?
Just shows the stupidity of government.
Yes.
Next...
Allow? Since when do you ask for permission to exercise a right?
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This is a really tricky subject. I think some type of restriction like they have on open containers of alcohol would be appropriate. Medical consumption in public isn't a problem with the use of vaporizers, edibles and tincture. The limitations placed on cigarettes & alcohol will set the standard. I work in the spa industry and it is shocking how many people use cannabis even in the states where it isn't even legal for medical use yet.
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