A Swingers Club Is Rebranded a Church To Evade Local Busybodies
"It will have the same rules that many churches observe" except adultery is OK.
How do you protect a swingers club from a bullying neighbor and a hostile zoning board? Turn it into a church.
That was the innovative legal tactic devised by Nashville Attorney Larry Roberts, whose client purchased a property for $750,000 last November with the intention of making it home to the Social Club, an "equal opportunity lifestyle organization" that aims to help its members find other that share the "same interest and desires."
Enter the Goodpasture Christian School, which his located nearby. Principal Ricky Perry complained that the organization would "pollute" the minds of his children with "ungodly activity." The local zoning board agreed, passing an emergency zoning resolution in March that blocked Robert's client from building on the site.
So the swingers club found religion. When asked if rebranding the club as a church was intended to skirt the zoning resolution, Roberts smiled. "Let's just say it's opening up to give people guidance."
No sexual activity will be allowed on the premise, but there will be socializing and dancing. "It will have the same rules that many churches observe," says Roberts, "such as do not steal, do not lie, do not cheat, do not harm others, and do not kill." There is one difference: Adultery is OK, as long as your spouse knows all about it.
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I suspect the good Principal is primarily worried that parents will drive by the social club and see too many teacher's cars in the parking lot.
Odd thing though, the chicks at those swinger's groups pretty much never look ,Ike the blonde in the photo accompanying the article.
Well, that's because you only see the ones they let you into (i.e. in your range). That's why you stumble into an inordinate number of meat packing plants.
If your wife was hot, would you want to share her? Probably not.
Jack Ryan disagrees.
Regarding Jack Ryan's wife, Obama says have at it.
I met her in person. Nowhere near as attractive as she looks on TV. Unless emaciated with a haunted look is your thing.
Every woman I've ever been involved with has a haunted look...
For some reason.
Yes, but what year? 7 of 9 or Boston Public?
It would have been in 1997 or early 1998.
She was a guest on my carrier. The haunted look might be explained by the fact she was spending the day being escorted around by the ANAV who easily was the smarmiest man I've ever met.
Damn. That's disappointing.
Share?
http://i1371.photobucket.com/a.....bb6ff6.jpg
Probably not.
There is actually a specific community for people who disagree with you...
http://www.hotwifing101.com/
She was and I did. That was way back in the late 70's and 80's. I've always figured that insecure people have a hard time sharing spouses. Sex is not love, as in romantic love, it's lust. Sex is not sacred or holy unless you think all those Old Testament guys with multiple wives and concubines and female slaves that they had sex with was just pure love. Yeah, right. We have sex for two reasons: 1) to have babies, 2) because it feels good. If it didn't feel good then there wouldn't be 7 billion plus people on the planet.
I came to the conclusion that there are only three objectively bad things about sex: 1) non-consensual sex, 2) unwanted pregnancies, and 3) sexually transmissible diseases. Take care of those three things, then anything goes. But, if you are insecure, not sure of your spouse's love and commitment to you and your relation together then you probably shouldn't be swinging.
Sex should be enjoyed for the pure carnal pleasure of sex. If you can connect it to romantic love, good for you, but that doesn't mean that you and your spouse can't enjoy the pure carnal pleasure of others. Swingers are peaceful, honest citizens who are not violating the rights of others. That would make it an inalienable right.
As to the preacher's concern mentioned in the article, he better not let his Sunday School kids read the Bible. They will see that their God allows burned human sacrifice, slavery, murder, rape, infanticide, and even incest. (Biblical references upon request.)
I request. Please provide references. This should be entertaining.
Yeah, this is true.
Your typical swinger is ~45 and if you are lucky were hot back when they were 30.
Thing is swinging take a lot of self awareness and a certain minimum amount of security in yourself that tends to be lacking in the 20 something crowd.
Every now and then you'll find a hot as hell 18 - 21 year old hanging around in swingers groups but typically they got into that scene by dating a 45 year old who introduced them to it and like most 18 year olds who would consider dating a 45 year old they tend to have lots and lots of daddy issues.
There's a swinging BDSM club in Houston and the upper age limit is 34, I believe.
yeah they exist but they tend to be the minority.
Also the overlap into the BDSM community helps as that skews a bit younger than swingers in general
That is contradictory to my experience.
34? 34?
I've been micro-aggressed!
Shut up, old man.
As a geezer, I am offended and discriminated against! WHERE do I sue for age discrimination? Equal access to pussy and penis for all, I sez! Geezers and ugly people of the world, unite!!! If it requires a Government Almighty subsidy, so be it!
Equal access, Government-Almighty-assured, for all, to penis and pussy? Regardless of our age or ugliness! A GRANDE idea, MeThinks!!! As I put on my tin-foil hat, I foresee a future USA where you will have the right to have intercourse (social and/or sexual) with any passer-by that you demand it from, except, of course, the "public servants" who are too busy enforcing your rights, to have intercourse with you. AKA, they are too busy fucking with you, to let you fuck them! And we will have to sneak, under cover of darkness or fog or smog, from house to house, to have any kind of voluntary social or sexual intercourse, for fear of having "freedom" foisted upon us, if we walk about openly? Or maybe we put on a REALLY ugly, slime-dripping disguise, and take our chances? This LOVERLY idea brought to you for FREE by the Church of Scienfoology. To learn more about Scienfoology, please see http://www.churchofSQRLS.com ?
Not just pussy, HOT YOUNG pussy.
I mean any old geezer can go to a regular swingers club and find a 45 year old to bang but it is utterly unfair that those hot 20 somethings exclude us.
Just like the fight for the right to marry the one you want we need a government guaranteed right to no strings attached with whoever we want
Craig's list used to have a section where you could rent that sort of relationship.
^THIS
Some teacher who got fired in Florida(?) about 10-15 years ago was that hot. She and her husband were busted, not even swapping, he was on the floor and she was standing over him in a skirt, IIRC. It was "alternative" and swinging might not have been the focus, but it was not excluded.
Heh. Or he himself didn't want to get tempted.
Something tells me he's already succumbed to that temptation.
Temple harlots are back?
Give me that old-time religion!
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Praise the Lord and pass the pussy!!!! !!
Jesus saves!
The best ass for himself...
With all this alleged sexual freedom going on, why do we have so many sexually rejected male virgins and involuntary celibates? The trend has gotten so far advanced in Japan that reportedly a quarter of Japanese men in their early 30's have had no sexual experience.
Tentacle porn. They have LOTS of tentacle porn.
It's the only explanation of the fact that a quarter of Japanese men have had no sexual experience but the number of Japanese women who've had no sexual experience is irrelevant low.
Something non-male is screwing all those Japanese women.
What I'm hearing is "If you have any testosterone whatsoever, you can't lose."
Eight girls, one octopus.
The boys never told him something he missed.
If Japan is anything like the US, maybe the ladies are turned off by all the betas.
Four words: Anime. Waifu. Sex Pillows.
*considers move to Japan*
For all the virgin Japanese guys or the obnoxious living and working conditions, shitty alcohol, and shitty personal liberties that they enjoy?
Ok, maybe a vacation, just to experience how incredibly easy it must be to pick up women.
On average, American men under age 75 will have sex two to three times a week.
Whereas Japanese men the same age will have sex only one or two times a year.
This is very upsetting news to many of my friends...as they had no idea they were Japanese.
I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.
Hmm. Story seems familiar.
Jesus himself said "Eat me".
I think I just got religion!
The link to the Social Club goes to the Reason admin page. Coincidence? I think not.
Will the password be 'Fideglio'?
I remember some place in Austin trying the same thing... a swingers' club operating a sex den under the guise of a "pagan temple". Plato's Retreat or something like that. It only lasted a few months.
This video was hilarious. I don't know why but it just was.
Club wants to open a shwing-ing club. Town says no because filth and rezones to avoid them opening. Club finds loophole and opens as wholesome Church 'wink, wink'. Town screams 'd'oh'!
Seems like, kidding aside, the club made some pretty big concessions operating only two out of a possible seven days and the town still wanted to bitch slap them.
I think there's a glitch in the Matrix.
Shouldn't this article assignment gone to Sheldon Richmond?
Hell I'm surprised Matt or Nick didn't grab it so they could have an excuse to do an in person "in depth" investigation
But Sheldon is way past due on his next "I'm in a snit about God" article. This one gives him the mother load of free associations.
Couldn't they reach back to Balko? Doesn't he live in Nashville METRO now?
More power to these folks.
Seriously.
If they want to call themselves a religion in order to enjoy their God-given rights, congrats guys (and ladies). That's what freedom looks like.
I just wonder if progressives will support it, or if they'll recognize that it's fundamentally the same issue as (their accusations about) the gay wedding cake.
Skynet will become self aware long before progressives do.
OK, so now the Church of the Holy Swinger-Banging is a legit church, way cool, Bros and Hos? Cool by me?
Now when will the Church of Scienfoology be able to get "medicines" and "medical devices" w/o prescriptions and ass-sucking with the FDA? Scienfoologists need these things for religious ritual with their religious effigies, see? The FDA that gives Americans less medical freedom than the North Koreans have? All those American soldiers fighting for freedoms for foreigners, can we bring them home to fight the FDA (and the DEA etc.) so that we can have some freedom HERE!?!?? Hunh?!?!
To learn more about Scienfoology, Scienfoology effigies, etc., see http://www.churchofSQRLS.com ?.
OK, how many times are you going to post this article? It's interesting, sure, but not *that* interesting.
But it didn't have the video before, did it? Maybe I just never played it.
And it's probably a lost cause, but I may as well repost what I said on the other, *identical* thread about my views on the subject, if only so I can call out the idiots who misrepresent my views:
So, the local government is presuming that their professed religious beliefs are sincere.
And Tennessee has a Religious Freedom Restoration Act protecting sincere religious practices, unless repressing those practices is the least restrictive means of achieving a compelling government interest.
http://www.wbir.com/story/news...../70691256/
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OK, then, either prove they're insincere, or show that suppressing them is the least restrictive means of achieving a compelling government interest.
Next case!
Oh, and apparently the church bans sex on the premises, which (though I'm no expert) would distinguish it from a regular swingers' club).
The USA Constitution provides for religious freedom. There is NO provision there, for lawmakers and judges to pretend to read our minds, and tell whether or not our religious beliefs are "sincerely held". We'd all be better off, if Government Almighty would BUTT OUT, and quit pretending that it/they can read our minds! If one person gets a religious freedom to do XYZ, we should ALL get to do XYZ, and we'd all be better off for it.
"[...]If one person gets a religious freedom to do XYZ, we should ALL get to do XYZ, and we'd all be better off for it."
Own property? Churches aren't taxed on property. Like to pay no taxes on your property? Call it a 'church'.
I thoroughly agree with you, but I'm also convinced the government is willing to fight that tooth and nail; too much money involved.
Oh, and you can bet mainstream mythologies will fight it like crazy too; the alternative is that *they* would have to pay taxes!
I have a number of friends who are pastors in large cities.A few of them have revoked their non-profit status for their church to avoid A) any relationship with government that might look unhealthy and B) any authority that government may, sometime down the road, wish to impose upon them. The church, pastor's sallary, and building upkeep are all taxed, while there is a separate non-profit for ministry.
Fascnating. Members couldn't care less.
There is that little quirk of what a religion actually is. We know it is not a Buick, but the IRS says it includes Scientology.
Why not? It certainty has worked for Scientology!
.I'm old enough to remember when, in 1950, L. Ron Hubbard* unveiled Dianetics in an article in 'Astounding Science Fiction' magazine. Dianetics was first presented as science, but it quickly became a medical treatment. That got the Feds involved, so it became a religion, and the rest is history.
* 'Elron', as some called him, was a pretyt good fantasy and science fiction writer. He wrote a classic opening line which I remember as, "The doorknob opened one blue eye and looked at him." Dianetics ruined him for that.
Too bad that strategy was too late for Wilhelm Reich.
Where is Agile Cyborg on this one? I hope he didn't actually off himself.
At worst, he was posting about 'digital' suicide.
I also hope there is no harm, but I'm guessing the intent was possibly cutting his posting here with maybe a reduction in pharm intake.
I hope; hard to tell with AC.
Yes, difficult to tell how serious that was, but I haven't seen him post since then and this one is absolutely screaming for him. Would be about the right time of eve as well. Hope he was just referring to his handle getting off'd. He did add a certain something to the boards here.
He also subtracted a bit late in the evening when he hit the 'poetry' button and there was scant room for on-topic comments. Fine for those on the east coast - time to wig-out!
Those of us a bit west of that might have preferred a bit less 'poetry' and a bit more, shall we say, cogent comments.
Regardless, I sure hope no harm has come his way.
Ha! Wig-out, I love that phrase. I also love that lawyer, and that is not a phrase I use frequently.
Riven hasn't been around lately, either. Too damn few young, hot, female libertarians lurking around here. DAMN YOU, WARTY!
I want this attorney to run for President, Senator, Congressman, Representative or City Council. I don't care which ?. this guy is a true Libertarian.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in that place ! Swinging with JC.
They filed their application specifying swingers club, really? They could have skirted the issue right off the bat with some other creative label.
I could care less about anybodies sex life but, most people are obsessed like it's some new oddity.
People are beyond strange.
as usual fun ruined for adults in the name of "children"
I worship her heaving bosoms
I like the idea of not seeking tax exempt status. It keeps the Feds out. Let someone else take on the IRS.
one of these days people are going to realize that sex is not evil. Until then we will have to put up with the ridiculous prudish crap from people who cannot handle sexuality - either their own or anyone else's.
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Google pay 97$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
This is wha- I do...... ?????? http://www.www.netjob80.com
So, regardless of the IRS, I wonder if this church will seek "non-prophet" status.