Campbell Brown on Her Fight To Get Lousy Teachers Fired
The former CNN journalist has a new career as an ed reformer.
Oral arguments are scheduled to begin on Wednesday in Wright v. New York, a lawsuit filed in New York State Supreme Court last July that seeks to overturn certain teacher tenure protections on the grounds that they deny public school students their constitutional right to an adequate education.
Former CNN anchor Campbell Brown, whose organization, the Partnership for Educational Justice, is providing support for the plaintiffs in the case, says that the lawsuit was inspired by the outcome of Vergara v. California. In that lawsuit, a superior court judge struck down five statutes that provide tenure protections to teachers in the Golden State. (The decision is under appeal.)
"Judge [Rolf Treu], in how he wrote his decision, was quite extraordinary," Brown told Reason magazine Managing Editor Katherine Mangu-Ward in an interview for Reason TV. "[He wrote] that the evidence presented of how these kids were being denied a quality education shocks the conscience," said Brown, "and it
gave these parents…hope that a judge in New York might understand these arguments and find the same thing."
In her interview with Mangu-Ward, which took place at the National Summit on Educational Excellence in Wasington, D.C., Brown also discussed her decision to leave journalism for the "glamorous world" of ed reform, her response to critics who object to her tactic of turning to the courts to shape policy, and the personal attacks she's endured since entering a field in which ad hominem attacks are the norm.
"I don't particularly care because, you know, sticks and stones."
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"constitutional right to an adequate education"?
wot m8?!
You have the right to do what your told.
We in government are worth so much more than you people, and what we don't get in pay we recapture through less obvious elements to our compensation, such as job security.
At the end of the day we are inarguably getting what we are worth - http://youareproperty.blogspot.....e.html?m=1
And yes, you do have the right to do what you are told.. Told by us in government.
I like that she's turned the statists' weapons against them.
^This
New York Constitution?
NY State also has a Constitution, and I presume the right is set forth there.
But then will they actually be fired given the union bankrolling of dnc campaign's.
Obligatory link to Reason's flowchart on how to fire a public school teacher (gloriously illustrated by Peter Bagge)
As much as I dislike teacher's unions and the tenure system, that court ruling in California was a ridiculous overreach by the Court. It's one thing to say that tenure is incompatible with a government organization. It's another for the judge to start rating schools' educational performances and decide unilaterally what qualifies as an acceptable education.
The word "court" wasn't meant to be capitalized, since it's not a Supreme Court ruling. Stupid iPad.
I have always had a bit of a crush on Campbell Brown. As newsreaders go, she is one of the better looking ones and seems reasonably sane.
I agree with Crawford above though, as much as I dislike tenure, I don't think a court has any business striking it down.
What does the NY State Constitution say? The state supreme court may have every right to strike it down.
I didn't say the court shouldn't strike down tenure...there are many circumstances where that would be appropriate for the courts. My problem is the court's rationale for striking down tenure...the court is claiming an authority to make value judgments on the performance of schools. That's where I think the overreach occurred.
The overreach was done long ago with compulsory attendance laws and tax supported schools. The fact that American schools have been turned into a government fiefdom necessarily invites far-reaching courts and bureaucrats to make value judgments about their operations.
She can fire my teachers anytime...
Campbell Brown has an actual personality. That's why she didn't make it in network news.
Yeah. This is especially true for women. Men can have a personality and get away with it in that field. But the women seem to have to be a Stepford wife to make it. My wife watches the weekend edition of the Today Show. The women on that show are all pretty hot, but there is something just off about them. None of them seem to be able to show any kind of genuineness or personality. Its weird.
Brown is whatever her faults not like that. She seems like someone you might actually enjoy meeting.
She had a brief stint on the Today show and I thought her irreverent and fun (unlike the bots they normally have). She was not long on that show.
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I didn't watch the movie. My computer speakers are broken and it's too much hassle to attach headphones.
So, what got Campbell Brown going? Did her kids reach age six and she saw the light?
Campbell Brown has issues. Her husband is on the board of StudentsFirst, a conservative lobbying group, funded by venture capitolists. They wish to privatize education and have invested heavily in K12, and other - "for profit" schools. Without tenure they can fire the more expensive teachers to make a bigger profit. Why would so many million and billion-aires be interested in education. None of them have a background in ED. Follow the money - something smells fishy, oh, and there is no proof that tenure has anything to do with student failure. However, poverty is the biggest determining factor is a student's success. Let's work on poverty to help education be more effective for the students.
Or let's not, because poverty is overwhelmingly the result of stupid and selfish individual choices on the part of the children's parents, not the least of which is the choice to have children they could not afford to have in the first place.
There is no Constitutional guarantee to an education of any kind. The words "education," "school," and "children" do not occur in the Constitution; not once. There should be no such thing as "public" schools, and schools should be funded by fees that are paid exclusively by the people who choose to have children.
The fantasy that the fecund people of America are somehow so greatly benefiting society that we must pay whatever ransom they ask is instantly imploded by the utter lack of accountability for the money we spend not just on public education, but on subsidizing every aspect of child life. 40% of my property taxes go toward public education, for example, and yet 40% is also the magic number of kids in my state who drop out. It's also the magic number of kids who can read at their grade level, identify major geographic areas, and compute how much money they'll make in a summer.
The value of an education is almost exclusively in what the recipients are willing to put into it. When people must pay for their kids' own educations, you'll see them take a much keener interest in educational value.
toots
You sound like a socialist to me.
Any good libertarian knows that anything privately run is vastly superior to anything government run. So why wouldn't it be true with education? Seems pretty obvious that the socialist(public) schools are not performing well - in fact they are so bad that Obama has just proposed free community college for all students who didn't learn anything worthwhile in K-12 public schools.
BTW kids in private (non socialist) schools don't need remedial studies at community colleges.
Yes let's follow the money! One group is proposing to extort money from people to finance their educational vision, the other would rely on the objectively proven successful method of consumers and producers voluntarily exchanging value.
However, poverty is the biggest determining factor IN a student's success. typo correction.:)
poverty = poor personal social/economic choices by individuals.
You can't talk about "poverty" as a collective problem when it is by and large a personal one. Nor can a collective (socialist program) solution expect to succeed when the individual person involved keeps doing things that cause his individual poverty
I am curious who and what defines the term "lousy"? Are we to suppose the only motivation we Americans have for striving to excel in our educational system is we will be punished if we do not? If that statement is not true for students, then why should it be true for the teachers? It appears to me that providing resources and assistance to help the "lousy" teachers succeed might be of more benefit and most likely substantially cheaper than trying to get struggling teachers fired, or are we to assume that all these teachers are "lousy" purely because of personal non-motivation?
And how much more money should we continue to throw at the "lousy" teachers? In round numbers? Because I'm already paying 40% toward education in my state, out of an annual property tax bill that tops $9,000. This isn't counting portions of state sales taxes and fees that are directed toward public education, either.
How much is enough to make those lousy teachers straighten up and fly right? Oh, my state recently passed a bill to throw even more money at these fatassed union layabouts...more than $6 BIL worth. Still not enough? Here's a better question: if your theory has merit, how come all of the manifold increases in public education spending in the past did not "help the lousy teachers"?
Disclaimer- I just posted my comment the same time "toots" did. I do not wish my post to be considered an attack on Ms. Brown, as this whole tenure thing has been going on longer than she has been alive and she's just bringing it to the forefront again. IMHO, it is just a public acknowledgement that our schools desperately need improvement in many areas and attacking the messenger distracts everyone from that ultimate end goal with more energy spent trying to assign blame than spent trying to address the actual problems in the Educational System.
Teachers mean diddly squat toward the outcome of student. Their is no such thing as a bad teacher. Students are too blame for their own lack of learning. The idea that schools can be improved by any other means than disciplining the students or not requiring them to come to school is completely false. People need to read Robert Weissberg's "bad students, not bad schools.
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If you wanted to destroy the efficiency and effectiveness of an entire industry you would do two things:
1. Make it a publicly owned monopoly.
2. Unionize it.
Best example I can think of is K-12 education.
you forgot make it run by liberals
"Having it run by liberals" is the default condition of government run monopolies.
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This video is only about Campbell Brown on Her Fight To Get Lousy Teachers Fired