How Eva Moskowitz Outmuscled the Teachers Union
A charter school pioneer counters the political influence of organized labor.
In November 2003, Eva Moskowitz, then a freshman member of the New York City Council, held explosive public hearings about how union contracts imposed inane work rules on public schools. The city's political establishment was astonished.
Mosowitz—a former history professor, public school teacher, and self-proclaimed liberal, whose politics up until that point seemed to resemble those of every other Democratic politician in New York—was sacrificing her political career to take on organized labor. Exposing the consequences of teacher union contracts was a direct affront to the United Federation of Teachers (UFT), which wields enormous influence in New York City elections.
Moskowitz didn't pussyfoot. At one point in the hearings, she even played audio testimony from a whistleblower with a disguised voice. She said that many of her sources declined to appear because they feared union retribution. She also went toe-to-toe with Randi Weingarten, the UFT's confrontational leader.
Two years later, when Moskowitz ran for Manhattan Borough President, Weingarten and the UFT mobilized against her and sunk her candidacy. So Moskowitz left politics for the time being; if she couldn't transform the system from within, she would build an alternative to the public schools.
Today, Moskowitz is the founder and CEO of Success Academy, which is the city's largest and most successful charter school network. With 32 schools around New York City—staffed by a non-union teaching force—Success Academy posted test results last year that astounded education policy experts.
Meanwhile, Moskowitz and her charter school allies started building a powerful coalition to counter the outsized
political influence of organized labor. In March, when New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) tried to squash Success Academy's expansion plans, Moskowitz bused 11,000 charter school parents and kids up to the state capital in Albany to protest—and New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo came out in support. De Blasio retreated. Success Academy could move forward with its expansion plans after all, and state lawmakers quickly passed a bill to protect charter schools from future interference by the mayor.
Reason TV's Nick Gillespie sat down with Eva Moskowitz to talk about why her schools are so successful, whether her model is scalable, how labor contracts hurt schools, and what moved her to sacrifice her political career to bring attention to the corrosive influence of unions on public education.
About 17 minutes.
Written, shot, and edited by Jim Epstein; interview by Nick Gillespie; additional camera Anthony L. Fisher.
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you know who else was named Eva?
Peron?
Braun. Too easy.
It's way too early for a Godwin.
It's never too early for a Godwin.
Way to wreck the game, Tonio.
It's called "winning", WTF. But seriously, that is how the game is best played by getting as close as you can to Hitler without actually using him. Alternately, by finding someone completely unrelated to Hitler who fits all the criteria.
"that is how the game is best played"
Wow, you're sure an insufferable cunt.
And wrong too.
Good one, though, PRX.
Shut up cunt.
You seem....angry.
If by angry, you mean crazy, then sure.
"Crazy" is such a harsh word. I'm sure OiwtN has a great reason for anonymously following around a regular commenter and calling him a cunt constantly. I mean normal, sane, healthy people do that all the time in real life.
I believe the preferred nomenclature is "Mentally Divergent American."
Yes! The beautiful robot from Wall*E.
The NY version also has a fine sense of directive - and also packs a wallop.
And get in the way of people just trying to do their job.
I mean, if they'd used 'Protest Park' like everyone else I wouldn't complain, but they assembled right in the middle of the office complex. You know how hard it is to navigate a crowd of protestors to get from one building to another?
Not sure if serious.
I was being sarcastic. They set up in either the plaza or the concourse, and I did have to dodge the edge of the crowd - but only at the end of my workday at the way to the parking lot.
Ah. Good. I would be in that crowd shaking hands and kissing babies.
I can't tell whether you're a wrecker, a splitter, an agent provocateur, or a loyal party member, comrade.
When in doubt, pin a medal on him then have him taken out back and shot.
Sure you don't want to tell him the way to win ant insulting people, you stupid insufferable cunt?
"When in doubt, pin a medal on him then have him taken out back and shot."
And Papa Joe would say that you should always be in doubt.
Awesome
Is it just me, or does the woman on the left (presumably Randi Weingarten) look like Elizabeth Warren?
I was thinking Martina Navratilova.
Eh, sort of:
http://a4.files.biography.com/.....MzNTQ4.jpg
It's just you being a cunt.
Is Tonio just Tony reincarnated? It's hard to keep track of all the socks.
Nope. Tonio is a totally separate commenter who has been around for way longer than I have.
We're not even sure Tony is really Tony anymore.
The other day, Tony dropped a "u mad bro?" which served as his entire comment. I took that as a sign that we were dealing with a different operator that day.
This is a really good example of how Libertarian issues can appeal to liberals. Moskowitz is a good example of what I call a "soft liberal". While not a Libertarian or even a conservative, she is not Tony either. She is a thoughtful person who wants to make country better. I bet anything she spent years thinking that the way to improve education was to spend more money. At some point she realized that wasn't the case and how loathsome the unions really were. Here she is supporting giving parents and teachers more freedom in how to educate kids.
If Moskowitz had never had her direct experience with the unions and the only pitch she ever heard for charter schools was put in terms of principle and freedom, she never would have changed her mind. What changed her mind was when she realized that giving people more control helped things and made education better and that the central planners were nothing but thieves.
The way you sell freedom to someone like Moskowitz, and there are millions like her, is to get her to understand that it makes things better for people. People like her think in terms of results not principles. So selling freedom as the "principled right thing to do" instead of explaining how it makes things better will never appeal to Moskowitz and those like her because they will see freedom as some principle that we are supposed to sacrifice the less fortunate so that the rest of us can enjoy it.
Liberty Works, and Liberty is Right.
Feel free to argue whichever idea would make the most sense to the person you are speaking with.
The point is that "Liberty works" is the only argument liberals like Moskowitz are going to listen to. And Libertarians don't make that argument enough. It is a hard and messy argument to make. You have to know the facts of the issue and be able to explain why liberty is going to make things better. In contrast "Liberty is Right" is easy and doesn't require knowing the facts on the ground. This makes the "Liberty is Right" argument very tempting to make. And you have to resist that temptation or you will never win over people like Moskowitz.
But it's usually ostentatiously easy to make the argument "We've tried it your way and we KNOW that doesn't work. Time to let somebody else have a shot at it."
The point is that "Liberty works" is the only argument liberals like Moskowitz are going to listen to. And Libertarians don't make that argument enough. It is a hard and messy argument to make. You have to know the facts of the issue and be able to explain why liberty is going to make things better. In contrast "Liberty is Right" is easy and doesn't require knowing the facts on the ground. This makes the "Liberty is Right" argument very tempting to make.
The main problem with this, I think, is that libertarianism isn't utopian. I agree that in the final analysis liberty is the best way for the greatest number of people to flourish and prosper, but I think the reality is that bad luck and the vagaries of human nature are such that there will always be people who fall through the cracks, and who will suffer unjustly, even if you have the most just institutions possible.
Progressives don't need to contend with this reality. They can just sit around all day spinning fables about how if only they were in charge, all crime and poverty and hunger would cease and it's only those silly "individualists" who stand in their way. We can try to point out that the utopia they promise to deliver isn't possible but that just makes us sound like naysayers trying to stop the arrival of paradise.
So how does one argue against a worldview that offers a fantasy without using similarly fantastic arguments?
So how does one argue against a worldview that offers a fantasy without using similarly fantastic arguments?
By pointing to the awful results of their policies whenever they are implemented. Fantasies work really well as arguments when you are out of power. This is why Progressives are always popular until they take power and then quickly disgrace themselves only to later return like the Shadow of Moredor.
And it is not easy you are right. The point that there are no perfect solutions must be made again and again. And it must constantly be pointed out that people must help themselves. No matter how hard we try or how good our intentions, we cannot help people in any lasting way. All we can do is enable them to help themselves.
Liberals with the poor are like the families of drug addicts who refuse to do an intervention and keep writing them checks and enabling their bad behavior. You do someone no good when you do things for them that they should be doing for themselves. Liberals don't like to face that reality and avoid it by thinking that we can fix people if we just write more checks.
The problem with that is that for every Moskowitz, you've got five Weingartens, who whether it works or not, benefit from coercion. And the left is going to five Weingartens over the one Moskowitz.
My question, though, is whether she's remained a liberal. It would take an epic level of cognitive dissonance to remain on Team after the amount of flack she's taken from them.
She has totally remained liberal. And the reason is that she judges every issue individually by what she things will result in the most good. And on every other issue I am sure she still thinks central control is the best way because to her that is how you look out for everyone.
People like her are crude materialists even though they almost never realize it. And they have to be convinced issue by issue why this or that is the best policy. At some point maybe she would reach a critical mass where she finally came to see freedom as the default answer until proven otherwise, but that would take a while and changing her mind on a lot of issues.
You likely never going to turn someone like her into a Libertarian. But you can absolutely get someone like her to support Libertarian policies if you take the time to put the issue in language that she will understand and in ways that will appeal to her.
Absent any proof, I will give her the benefit of the doubt.
I bet she still thinks like a liberal in that she judges policies based on what she believes will help the most people and give the best outcome rather than on what conforms to a set of core principles.
I suspect you're probably right. And, honestly, that's what I don't get. She's doing something (with Success Academy) that she's got to know is a good thing, something to be proud of. And she must see the people she was previously aligned with attack it. Not despite the fact that it's good, but because of the fact that it's good. And attack her personally for it.
I don't understand what sort of knots she could possibly tie her mind in to not begin to question all of the other things that she accepts on faith from the same sources.
"This is a really good example of how Libertarian issues can appeal to liberals. Moskowitz is a good example of what I call a "soft liberal". While not a Libertarian or even a conservative, she is not Tony either.. She is a thoughtful person who wants to make country better."
You give her too much credit. If she wanted to make the country better, she wouldn't be a liberal.
More likely she just happened to take one issue and actually analyzed it with an open mind, for whatever reason. I guarantee you on everything else she'd just as mindlessly regurgitate all of the stupid and self-contradictory progressive talking points.
You give her too much credit. If she wanted to make the country better, she wouldn't be a liberal.
That is just not true. The biggest evils in human history were done by people who had the best intentions. Indeed, if evil didn't appeal to people's best intentions, there wouldn't be much evil in the world since most people don't wake up every morning trying to do harm.
The problem is not her intentions. The problem is that she has convinced herself that supporting liberal policies is the way to do good. In one area she has figured out that is not the case. She can figure it in other areas too. Someone just has to explain why freedom makes the world better and isn't just some principle that we all should live by consequences be damned.
"The biggest evils in human history were done by people who had the best intentions. Indeed, if evil didn't appeal to people's best intentions, there wouldn't be much evil in the world since most people don't wake up every morning trying to do harm."
I don't accept that "evil" is done with good intentions. What people do is act selfishly in the public arena, but since that's rightfully condemned, they disguise it with whatever appeal to the "common good" they can come up with. And this isn't meant to be cynical; usually they've deceived themselves about their motivations.
I don't accept that "evil" is done with good intentions.
Of course they do. They just rationalize it. What people do is use their powers to rationalize to convince themselves that something that is selfish or wrong is really a good thing to do.
If people were as a general rule able to ignore their good intentions, we wouldn't ever need to rationalize our behavior. And of course rationalizing is what people do best. Go talk to any person who has done something awful or selfish and they will be able to give you a long and detailed rationalization of how doing it was the right thing to do. It is just how people work.
No. The biggest evils in the world - the Gulags, the "Final Solution"s, the reeducation camps, the killing fields, were done by people who wanted POWER and were willing to do any revolting thing to get and hold it. Mao did not have "good intentions". Stalin did not have "good intentions".
Now, people with good intentions often facilitate the truly evil bastards, but that isn't what was said.
No Schofield. The Gulags were built by people who honestly thought they were building paradise. Those things were sold as being necessary to achieve the greatest good. There is no ideal more noble than that of ending injustice in the world. And that is the ideal communism shrived for. And that is why it ended up being so monstrously evil. Once you embrace the ultimate good as an attainable goal, even means no matter how evil isn't justified in attaining it.
Evil people don't wake up every day thinking they are monsters or acting like Hanibal lector. They wake up every day convinced they are fabulous and doing good. That is what makes evil so seductive. It preys on people's ego and best intentions.
I doubt she analyzed anything with an open mind. Probably she has some personal beef with someone at the union. Maybe the shop steward slept with her husband or something.
Good points, John. I'd like to see the "Food Freedom" movement make inroads in the granola crowd in this way, and libertarians could do the same thing with alternative medicine types.
You are never going to turn liberals into Libertarians. But that doesn't mean you can't convince them of some things if you make the right arguments in ways that will appeal to them.
I don't know if Pargo is/was a sock, or some transient lefty troll, but this was his/her claim:
http://reason.com/archives/201.....sm#comment
"Pargo|11.3.14 @ 12:56AM|#
Public school teachers total about 3.3 million and approximately 127 million people voted in the last election. Even if they all voted, teachers would represent about 2.5% of the voters. In addition, teachers are paid about the median family income in the U.S., so they don't have excessive economic clout. Exactly how does this small, economically modest, group capture elected officials?"
teachers are paid about the median family income in the U.S., so they don't have excessive economic clout
Oh, very clever conflation of individual salaries with median family incomes. That person is either an idiot who doesn't understand the difference, or a skilled operative who does. I'm going for the latter since the 3.3/127 comparison required some thought and research and sets up an appearance of thoughtful analysis until you read closely.
"I'm going for the latter since the 3.3/127 comparison required some thought and research and sets up an appearance of thoughtful analysis until you read closely."
Alternatively, that set of stats is part of a 'talking point' letter sent out to the teachers and their useful idiots.
Regardless, the effect is as you mention; purposely misleading innuendo.
You're right. I should have written "I'm going for the latter since the 3.3/127 comparison required some thought and research and sets up an appearance of thoughtful analysis until you read closely."
Get cancer cunt.
Tonio,
Apparently you have an angry comment-stalker?
CTRL+F "cunt".
Yep.
Hi Mary.
Tonio, what did you do?
Have you ever touched a cunt?
He's not a sock. Just a journeyman point guard in the NBA.
" Exactly how does this small, economically modest, group capture elected officials?"
Doesn't this group have some sort of name?
The same people who obsesse about how the evil NRA and Koch money gives small groups of voters too much power will try and claim teachers have no influence because there just are not very many of them. Just ignore that 800 lb silver back sitting in the corner with the "Union Forever" t-shirt on.
"Exactly how does this small, economically modest, group capture elected officials?"
The same way 165 Spaniards conquered the Incas....they got help from thousands of native tribesman.
Since half the population will jump on board with anything that calls itself a union, with zero actual concern about what that union is actually doing to their children, it's easy to see why they're so powerful.
You've just described the Dem coalition in a nutshell.
The stupid, it burns, it BURRRRRRNS!
Well in this country, 40% of the voters always vote Republican. 40% always vote Democrat. The real battle is for the 20%.
2.5% of the voters is not an insignificant number.
how union contracts imposed inane work rules on public schools. The city's political establishment was astonished.
Of course they were. The traditional relationship of management to labor doesn't exist with public sector unions. These contracts are approved, raises and increases to pensions granted because the political establishment has no skin in the game, except to appease the union.
Yep and the feedback loop in quid pro quo is very tight so cronyism is guaranteed.
The city's political establishment was astonished that someone on the council would show how union work rules benefit the unions and teachers at the cost of worse educations for students. I seriously doubt they were astonished that such rules exist.
When I read that sentence, I wondered if the authors intended to leave the reason for astonishment, unsaid or not. Lacking a video of the meeting, it's hard to say. But I suspect Democrats showed fake aghast and promised to do something about this, then only followed up by making sure Moskowitz got no union campaign cash for her campaign.
DeBlasio's a piece of shit. That is all.
I'm sure when he's term limited, I'll get some of his sinister legislation in my state, like I have Bloomberg's.
Unions, on the whole, are a dying force in American politics. In fact, union membership rates across the liberal market economies have declined dramatically, but there has also been a significant decrease in union membership rates across continental market economies (Belgium is an exception) like Germany. Even the nordic/social democratic countries have experienced a small decline.
Union coverage rates, however, have really only significantly declined in liberal market economies (Germany is an exception) like Australia and New Zealand. Interestingly, Switzerland has maintained a coverage rate of about 50% for decades.
Unions and businesses in the United States seem to have a particularly poor relationship with one another (reflection of social mistrust in general and more decentralized government system?). In the past, this may have hurt us in some respects, but since unions are fading away it is kind of becoming irrelevant. Business groups and American consumers/voters have undeniably won the war in the United States. The Ghent System clearly helps unions in the Social Democratic countries, but it looks like even they have moderated themselves in order to survive.
Source for data: http://www.uva-aias.net/208
That's why the union is so sharply on the rise in the public sector.
I believe that Public Sector Union Membership rates have been stable for decades at around 35-37%. That's a much higher number than the private sector, but it still entails that only a small minority of Americans are members.
Overall union membership has gone way down, so I do believe they have lost a lot of political power.
Furthermore, there is currently a ceiling on the growth potential of these public sector unions given that various state/local rules prevent around 40% of government employees from unionizing in the first place.
That and the number of Proggie politicians who thought "The Unions are a goodness thing, the Unions are our friends, the Unions would NEVER bend us over a barrel and lube us with Tabasco sauce."
Stupid Proggies.
The_Millenial|11.7.14 @ 11:01AM|#
"Unions, on the whole, are a dying force in American politics."
You've pitched this before and it's true only of private-sec unions.
Pub-sec unions are gaining memberships by the buckets, and they have both the incentive and the ability to REALLY screw up the tax rates.
I simply don't agree that there's little danger.
The percentage of public-sector workers belonging to unions hasn't changed much over the past few decades.
Again, it is a big deal that private-sector union membership has gone way down. It's what has driven the sharp decline in overall membership rates. Without it, unions would wield substantially more power.
The other point of my post is to compare union membership/coverage trends across countries. Of course, that isn't the subject of this post, but I do find it interesting myself. For instance, the broader macroeconomic impact and endurance of unions seems to vary country-by-country.
The_Millenial|11.7.14 @ 11:31AM|#
"The percentage of public-sector workers belonging to unions hasn't changed much over the past few decades."
I certainly do not find that comforting. X% of a larger and larger number is larger and larger.
It isn't really as dramatic as you make it out to be. Consider that today there about the same number of union workers as there in the mid-1940s despite substantial growth in the workforce and population.
From the BLS:
"Nine states had union membership rates below 5.0 percent in 2013, with North
Carolina having the lowest rate (3.0 percent). The next lowest rates were
recorded in Arkansas (3.5 percent), Mississippi and South Carolina (3.7
percent each), and Utah (3.9 percent). Three states had union membership
rates over 20.0 percent in 2013: New York (24.4 percent), Alaska (23.1 percent), and Hawaii (22.1 percent).
State union membership levels depend on both the employment level and union
membership rate. The largest numbers of union members lived in California
(2.4 million) and New York (2.0 million).
Over half of the 14.5 million union
members in the U.S. lived in just seven states (California, 2.4 million; New
York, 2.0 million; Illinois, 0.9 million; Pennsylvania, 0.7 million; and
Michigan, New Jersey, and Ohio, 0.6 million each), though these states
accounted for only about one-third of wage and salary employment nationally."
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm
I don't see how these numbers/trends are encouraging for public-sector unions. It doesn't look sustainable to me and at the very least their reach is geographically limited in certain respects.
"I don't see how these numbers/trends are encouraging for public-sector unions."
That's because you are a pedant who hopes the map substitutes for the territory.
See CA gov't, and stop hoping your numbers represent reality. They don't.
Sorry but one important element of her success was the general consensus that had boiled up within the gentry liberal class that runs NYC that something needed to be done about the public schools. The willingness of various socialites to stand behind her was the leverage she needed. It's really a story of how the monied class was embarrassed by circumstances into doing the right thing because everything else had failed.
It is absolutely that story. That, however, doesn't mean it wasn't a good thing or that Libertarians can't learn from it.
These policies failed and did all kinds of harm. Charter schools and school choice in contrast works and does all kinds of good. I understand that Libertarians don't find the results the compelling reason to support such policies. Libertarians think in terms of principles. To a Libertarian freedom is a fundamental principle and should be supported regardless of the consequences.
The problem for Libertarians is that most people are not Libertarians and don't think like that. They think in more concrete terms of what works best and what produces the best results. So if Libertarian goes in arguing for freedom based on principle without any mention of its effects in the real world, Progs argue in response how their programs help people and do all of these wonderful things in the real world. Unless Libertarians rebut that argument and show how freedom produces results and Progressive policies produce misery, Progs are able to leave people with the impression that freedom is some abstract principle that Libertarians want to sacrifice the well being of the less fortunate so Libertarians can enjoy their selfish ends.
"It's really a story of how the monied class was embarrassed by circumstances into doing the right thing because everything else had failed."
That's absolutely fine by me, as I have great sympathy for the 'monied class'.
Me to, as I hope to belong to it one day.
"too".
What I get for dashing off a thought without checking my typing/spelling
Spot on, LB. When Moskowitz was pushed out of politics by the UFT, she opened the Success Academy. Looking at the Board of Directors for the schools, I see lots of hedge fund managers and media elite. Wealthy benefactors is what made this happen. There is nothing wrong with that, and I applaud her efforts. But there has been little if any internal philosophical change in public schooling in NY. She didn't change the system as much as she was able to raise enough dough to circumvent it. Once again, rich people with good ideas seem to produce better outcomes.
"Once again, rich people with good ideas seem to produce better outcomes."
+1 Khan.
Yep. The Success board overlaps significantly with the Robin Hood Foundation - no coincidence.
"It's really a story of how the monied class was embarrassed by circumstances into doing the right thing because everything else had failed."
That might well be a component. However, this:
"In March, when New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) tried to squash Success Academy's expansion plans, Moskowitz bused 11,000 charter school parents and kids up to the state capital in Albany to protest"
Is more representative of a grass roots effort. Really she beat the teachers union at their own game using their own tactics against them.
Yeah, I'm not trying to take anything away from Moskowitz. She's been super intelligent about how she's gone about it, but one really important element of that was getting the right people on her side. She could have been ripped to shreds and left out to die if she hadn't cultivated close relationships with people like Paul Tudor Jones. This is really just an example of her superior political talents. She played the long game with the right people and she's going to win. de Blasio will be long gone while Eva will survive and be lauded as a hero of NY'ers.
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Hooray for her. I wonder if this experience has made her less of a Team Blue member in other ways?
Depends on if the "other ways" impact on her mission. She's probably kinda busy making those charter schools work.
Hey I remember some Dem vs Dem race in Los Angeles or close that was really important to teacher's unions. How did that go?
The state superintendent of schools race was won by the union/establishment candidate (Torlakson), not the reformer/challenger (Tuck).
Is there anything more special interest than a teachers union?
Arthur45|11.7.14 @ 3:32PM|#
"Is there anything more special interest than a teachers union?"
Wind turbine mfgrs, maybe?
at 2:13.. is that Common Core "addition"?
Puke!
"Meanwhile, Moskowitz and her charter school allies started building a powerful coalition to counter the outsized political influence of organized labor"
Despite the U.S. having the lowest rates of unionization in the West, organized labor here will continue to receive an outsized share of blame for our ills. This will go on until there is a single union member left, a Massachusetts mail carrier, a grandfathered grandfather, and somehow--somehow--it will still be ALL HIS FAULT.
You're full of shit, Jack. Public sector unions have been a pox on every organization they have infected. Teacher unions are most of the reason public education is so bad. Moskowitz and her charter schools are proof of that.
The only way public education will ever be fixed is to go to tuition vouchers good for any school of a parents choice. If the actual tuition exceeds the value of the voucher, the parents pay the difference out of their own pocket. Once the government and unions are out of the equation the education problem is solved.
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