What We Saw at NYC's Fast Food Strike
Less than 0.1 percent of the industry's workforce participated.
Yesterday, Naomi Brockwell and I attended a demonstration demanding that fast-food restaurants boost their minimum wage to $15 per hour, or a little more than double the current federal minimum wage. The strike, which was led by a group called Fast Food Forward that's affiliated with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), was one of more than a 100 similar demonstrations held in cities across the country.
The New York demonstration had about 150 people, but the number of actual fast food employees participating in the strike was small. It was business as usual at every restaurant we dropped by yesterday morning and, at a McDonald's restaurant on 23rd Street and Madison Avenue in Manhattan, employees behind the counter said they had heard nothing about a strike.
We caught up with the protesters in front of a Wendy's in downtown Brooklyn, where the crowd consisted of union organizers, fast-food workers, and their sympathizers. An estimated one-third of the demonstrators were fast-food employees, meaning that less than one-tenth of 1 percent of New York City's 57,000 fast-food workforce participated in the strike.
The group was traveling from one fast-food restaurant to another, before winding up at Foley Square in Manhattan around 1pm.
Multiple strikers told us they had received compensation through a union strike fund to appear, but declined to say the amount they were paid.
Artificially doubling wages to $15 an hour would change many things in the fast food industry, including the easy path it provides for low-skilled employees to break into the labor market. Substantially higher wages would mean that existing employees would be less apt to look for other positions, and senior staffers would be more inclined to hog shift hours. Franchisees would likely move more aggressively to replace human service workers with automated cash registers, which is already happening in European McDonald's. Evidence of how artificially boosting wages destroys opportunities for entry level workers was best documented in a 2006 study by economists David Neumark and William Wascher, which was updated in 2013.
In interviews, several striking workers described how it had been relatively easy for them to get a job in fast-food service. Shenita Simon, who works as a shift supervisor at KFC, told us that she doesn't know where else she would have been able to find a position, because fast food is the only industry that "will allow you to have minimum education." Isaac Wallace, a Burger King employee, described how he was able to get his job immediately after moving to New York from Jamaica by simply walking into a Burger King in Brooklyn and approaching the manager.
Once the strike moved to Foley Square, organizers from Fast Food Forward began obstructing our efforts to talk with protesters.
For more on why doubling wages for fast food workers would hurt entry-level workers, read Nick Gillespie's "Big Labor's Big Mac Attack" at The Daily Beast.
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The SEIU must be terribly disappointed.
Yeah, I was pretty tired and hadn't eaten dinner last night, so I stopped at a McD's in Manhattan. Nothing out of the ordinary...
You're in Manhattan, with all the wonderful food choices available to you there, and out of all that you chose McDonald's?
Yeah, I know, but I was in the far-east Upper East Side where things close surprisingly early. I usually go to other places but this was at 1am.
And anyway I have plenty more days to choose other places, I live here.
Do they have McRib at that location? Last week the little woman and I discovered that the McDonald's at Baxter, TN has and extra McRib for $1 with every McRib meal purchase.
You lucky bastard.
BK has a better one for a dolla.
yeah. But the true McRib bonanza would just be double meat McRib. That way you don't have to get your hands dirty making your own.
And you wouldn't have to waste more time with bread.
Chicago also has wonderful food choices. But all kinds of shit closes early there, too.
I miss Chicago for that reason only. Best Mexican I've had was at a no-name hole in the wall on Mannheim road by the airport. We just called it the Dirty Burrito. Best Italian was Clara's, in a strip mall between the dog groomer and the glass repair.
Here in New Hampshire, forget about it. There is no decent ethnic food that we have found.
I thought The Big Catch was pretty good in Bristol.
Maria's? I never considered the place dirty, though I've never been in the kitchen.
Sorry, I had Mannheim and River confused.
Now I know the place you're thinking of, but I've never been in there. Still has an old Pepsi logo on their sign, right?
El Mexicano in Manchester does pretty good Mexican. Another funky hole-in-the-wall type place.
Nah, they just did what the Obama administration/DNC contracted them to do.
In that case, it wasn't a strike at all. If no workers (or even a few) walked off the job, it wasn't a strike and merely a protest.
Trust any of the participants to understand that distinction...
You can be sure that the professionals organizing this understand the distinction well.
Did anyone notice almost everyone in the video (minus the guy who's blocking interviews) are black?
I mean, they're ALL black.
Yeah but they were really good dancers.
So there's that.
I'd carry a picket sign for the SEIU if if meant I got a chance to talk with Naomi Brockwell.
I'd drop it on the sidewalk as soon as she left, though.
-jcr
Trigger alert: Ten month old comments.
What We Saw at NYC's Fast Food Strike
Let me take a guess before reading.
A bunch of overly privileged minded, under educated, under skilled, useful idiots, accomplishing nothing, as usual?
No, more likely a bunch of homeless people paid a couple bucks by the unions to walk around holding signs.
JOBS!
JOBS! JERBS!
FTFY
Occupy McDonald's!
They found some KFC and Burger King employees sprinkled through the mob. The dialogue went something like this:
"Ya know, basically, ya know, like, support, ya know, actually, workers, ya know, I mean, ya know."
Of course participation was small. It's not like actual fast-food employees are risking their jobs to walk off for this stupid, stupid cause. Which, incidentally, isn't really theirs. So it was all union people (or paid substitutes) who don't work in fast food at all.
Which is why that guy followed the ginger around making sure no one would talk with her.
Watching that guy kind of irritated me.
Get back in those fields and don't talk to that yankee.
They do have a skill, whether they know it or not.
They are the most crass, obnoxious, annoying and stroke inducing people in the known universe. And they've managed to parlay it into a career, it seems.
So they should have their own shows on the major "news" networks?
Dancing and yelling in the streets is easier than cleaning the grease traps.
They looked like they had some fine instruments. Drums and cymbals are not all that cheap, are they?
Hey, they have to avoid a lot of calls from VISA to not-afford those instruments.
Some of them had name brand jackets.
North Face jackets aren't cheap.
I live in NYC; everyone I know of who claims to be poor and is getting public assistance always dressed better than my family. Paying property taxes, tuition and bills first, does not usually equate with splurging on $500 coats and $200 jackets. The best dressed and ones with nicest cars at my kids' schools were taking every benefit allowed and just didn't bother to marry the spouse who paid for the fun stuff.
I meant $200 sneakers.
These people are why societies collapse.
No, the people who enable this are the reason society's collapse.
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Happy landings ex-employees.
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our next revision will use gourmet cooking techniques
Someone never learned about Osborne
Meh, you can get around that by scheduling price reductions on existing inventory.
Which means "lose money".
"Osborne"
So Obamacare then?
If they do end up getting $15 an hour, my burger better look EXACTLY like it does in the pictures.
If not? They take your money first.
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Your naighbor's mom is a webcam whore.
And an ugly one at it...
"Put it ON! Put it ON!"
You say that she has been out of work for seven months, but you also say she's working on her laptop. Very contradictory.
It's not work work.
She is "not working" in the sense that she is still collecting "unemployment insurance". She is making bank in the sense that she is receiving cash for a service which she does not declare as "income".
"The New York demonstration had about 150 people, but the number of actual fast food employees participating in the strike was small. It was business as usual at every restaurant we dropped by yesterday morning and, at a McDonald's restaurant on 23rd Street and Madison Avenue in Manhattan, employees behind the counter said they had heard nothing about a strike."
You can be sure that none of the MSM "reporting" on it conveyed that info.
That would spoil the narrative.
Nothing brings out the MSM like fake protests, it's like pre-packaged content for them so it's cheap and easy. The MSM is like the fast-food of journalism.
Actually it's the agenda that's behind this..
Obama & the donkeys have just started ratcheting up the class warfare bullshit in preparation for the next election, and the media is just doing their job as DNC propagandists. They have a lot of negative sentiments to drown out because of the economy and Obamacare, but the envious sheep seem to love lapping up this class warfare nonsense.
And don't get fooled. This request is backed by unions because a hike to minimum wages means a hike to union pay tied to those wages. It's a scam...
I heard several reports about the protests on the radio yesterday. Not one mention of how many people were actually in front of any given restaurant.
How can they justify failing on basic reporting like that?
Radio? All they do is rip 'n' read. Including the "all news" stations. Any interview you heard was probably emailed to them in a pres release. Hell, most newspapers are just reprinting press releases at this point.
Fuck it, why not infinity dollars an hour?
Indeed!
And a pony.
One trillion dollar bill per nugget fried.
Unacceptable.
That would be piecework compensation.
You want to bring back the sweatshop, don't you, you capitalist pig.
Just add more zeroes and Robert Mugabe's portrait when you print the bills.
Gosh, I wonder why the leader was blocking interviews. It couldn't be because this was a massive scam or anything, could it?
But remember, all those Tea Party Obamacare protests in 2010 were just "astroturf," not real grass roots protests. Union backed publicity stunts like this one are the only true grass roots protests.
It's not grassroots unless it's centrally planned.
Is Grassrtoturf a word? It should be.
Like grasshole?
You weasel well, young grasshole. You have goldbricked the pebbles from my hand. Now, go and throw sand in the gears of industry.
This
+1
An other example of prog projection, aka progjection.
Yeah.
It means they have lost for now. They know it and are getting shrill.
The political pendulum, with it's attendant cash flow, is about to swing .
Unfortunately it will swing from the giant douches to the turd sandwiches.
Variety is the spice of life.
Well, obviously the only way these "strikers" can be heard is if the zampolit shuts them up or something.
-jcr
Further evidence of Idiocracy coming to fruition. "Carl's Jr. has determined that you are an unfit parent."
Gee, what a shock...
There's two kinds of problem solvers in the world:
1. "How do we create something new? What idea can we bring to the table that changes the situation? That gives us more of what we want?"
2. "How can we point guns and people and force them to do what we think is awesome?"
How option 2 gets to wear the moniker "progressive", I have no idea. It's about the oldest, most offensive way to get what you want since the dawn of human beings.
If people want to know what's wrong with the world, they should look in the mirror, for once.
Progressives are intellectually lazy. They don't care about persuasion, because that would require selling their ideas and convincing people that they are right. Violence is so much easier.
proggies also base their arguments on false premises: if you don't support the minimum increasing, you hate the poor; if you don't support free contraception, you hate women; and so forth. It's ideological junk food.
It's based upon emotion. They know what they feel, and no amount of facts or logic will change it.
And they lack (or willfully ignore) a basic understanding of Economics, especially "opportunity cost".
"Economic laws don't matter. We'll just amend them like we do the laws we made."
There are so self-assured of their blatantly evident rightness taht to disgaree with their means is to disagree with their ends.
On a more personal level:
1. How can I make myself a more valuable employee, so my employer will increase my pay, or I can get a new job with more pay?
2. How can I force my employer to give me more for doing the same thing I do every day?
2. "How can we point guns and people and force them to do what we think is awesome?"
How option 2 gets to wear the moniker "progressive", I have no idea. It's about the oldest, most offensive way to get what you want since the dawn of human beings.
I personally think we should refer to them as "Krugmans" or "Krugnuts", which is far more appropriate.
Krugabe
Oh the Krugmanity!
Oh, for Krug's sake.
That smarmy white dude has a very punchable face.
His stupid laugh increases his punchableness.
Watch the video. They end up with a guy following them around and telling astroturfers to shut up.
I don't know why it is so hard to demonstrate to these people that they will be out of a job if this happens.
Because if they had common sense or a basic understanding of buisness, they wouldn't be working in fast food, or as a Union Thug, in the first place.
They will probably get a raise by living off government benefits instead of working.
That never seems to be brought up in the conversation.
This is awesome.
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HAHAHA I'm actually surprised that this happened on reddit.
brutal. Also funny as hell.
Holy shit. For once, I didn't go blind reading the comments.
For once, most people are rolling their eyes.
Maybe you should stop jerking off to comments sections.
Maybe you didn't read far down enough, but the fucking lockstep progs show up in force, and they hate, HATE, HATE!!! anyone who disagrees with them. Amazingly ugly but nice to see the real faces behind the 'caring about my fellow man' masks.
The only let up in the spew of insult and contempt is when they finally break out the cherished narrative: "These are all astroturfing sock puppet account and/or paid shills of the Heritage Foundation!" (pretty sure they make the sign of the cross at the mention of the Heritage Foundation...or whatever sign they use...the sign of somebody fellating Paul Krugman, maybe.)
This is where they deny either the existence or the humanity of those with whom they disagree. This the the step beyond calling you immoral for not holding the 'right' views. (you are familiar with the progression of their "argument": You are stupid-immoral-a paid shill.)
These people are so self-convincing, so armored against reason and full of hate, I actually get depressed. It makes me echo one of their posts in that thread, though with an opposite object: "This is what makes me hate the human race." I hate them for making me hate them. I'd prefer not to.
Multiple strikers told us they had received compensation through a union strike fund to appear, but declined to say the amount they were paid.
It would be ironic if they were paid minimum wage, or less.
I'm guessing it wasn't $15 per hour.
Always appropriate
Ah, the rare instance where I agree with Jon Stewart. I really wish it would happen more often, as he's pretty funny when he's not being a partisan hack.
When he isn't in hack mode he's great. Unfortunately he's often late to the party when coming around on issues.
I wonder if they got 1099's.
Lots of out-of-work actors around. These are the ones that can't even get gigs on Springer.
"Hi! I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such staged protests as 'Occupy Wall Avenue' and 'McDouble The Minimum Wage'."
There was something incredibly entertaining about watching "protesters" following orders from a white guy. It's like they were his employees.
Oh. I see.
I enjoyed Ms. Brockwell's work and would like to see more of it.
I was annoyed by her constant nodding in agreement with the inanities coming out of the mouths of the interviewees.
Wait - there are other people in the video?
Her nodding was my favorite part. It's yes I understand that you are an idiot.
I enjoyed Ms. Brockwell's work and would like to see more of it
More honest, perhaps?
I'm on the mailing list for Brandworkers, which is committed to not only improving wages and conditions for food workers, but also promoting a sustainable food system for the city. Their style is to go after the most ridiculous offenders, places where people do good work but aren't treated well, one at a time. Anyway, I don't think they had anything to do with yesterday's demonstrations, because I never heard from them about it. Not all activist organizations are the same, of course, and they're often not on the same page, even if they're supposedly on the same general side of things.
There's a difference between urging people to not shop at a certain place and informing them about conditions, and protesting to *force* establishments to pay more.
The Brandworkers web site is full of propaganda and pretty much empty of facts or reasoning, starting with the fact that there is no evidence that the current "food system" is unsustainable.
What We Saw at NYC's Fast Food Strike
Lazy, venal people with an entitlement complex?
Poor ignorant fools who don't realize that when one does a robot's job, one should not make oneself more expensive than a robot?
One must compete with the robots at all times. That's the only way to delay their inevitable coming.
That's good advice.
Neat. The 6-DOF solution #1 looks more than a little like an old Olympic Press.
Wow, they've taught a robot to lift like a girl.
3-DOF is how I get the big garbage bags into the dumpster.
Who's the ginger talking to the retards?
Naomi Brockwell. It says so in the text below the video.
A female libertarian ginger? It can't be so. That's more rare than a midget wood elf. Who made this find?
A British female libertarian ginger, apparently. The only one still known to exist. Sadly their habitat is all but destroyed in the UK, so it looks like reason brought her to the US, where there is still a little bit left.
Thought she was a Aussie?
Perhaps they've extended their conservation program.
I don't know if she's **cough** one of us.
I don't know if she's **cough** one of us.
Why? It is well known that many of us are gold medal-winning Irish dancers... well, ok, it's not, but she could still be one of us, and if she's not, why is she hanging around on our set?
She seems to be a tad driven and then there's always the paycheck.
However, should your theory pan out, I may have to sell the wife-unit and kids on the black market.
Well, if it's only the check, Nick and Matt better make sure there's some cleavage next interview, or they suck.
Perhaps it's just a gig. However, she certainly seems willing to work hard for what she wants, and she owns a company, so she's not a hater. At least there are some shared values even if she's not doctrinaire.
She's somewhat important, so she's not libertarian?
Married to one, I guess I struck lightning.
You're married to a libertarian ginger Irish dancer? What are the odds of that?
What are the odds of that?
Not nearly good enough.
Not nearly.
Now I'm sitting here contemplating libertarian ginger Irish dancers and the ephemerality of all experience, and it's making me sad.
Just the female libertarian ginger. Or midget wood elf.
Getting Wendy to do these interviews was a nice touch.
Yes, subtle approach, using the symbol of a fast-food giant to conduct interviews.
Now that's better!
Now, that's better.
Can you imagine being tied to a advertising campaign and random people speaking your tagline to you for the foreseeable future?
Dammit!
It ultimately killed Clara Peller.
No, we don't want that because this is the real daughter of Dave Thomas, Wendy Thomas
Looks like she eats there more often than the ginger in the commercials.
She would make for a more effective ad campaign for restaurants than a girl who looks like she never eats.
/John
They supersized her.
"Real" as in biological or adopted?
Brings to mind the "Day without (illegal) Mexicans" we had here in SoCal a few years ago. There were three notable effects: 1)Freeway traffic was lowest in recent memory 2)School teachers reported how nice it was to have classrooms where all the students could speak English 3) Restaurants stayed open by management cooking, washing dishes, etc. More than one reported how after a day in the back, they realized they only needed three people rather than the five they had.
It hasn't been repeated.
needs to be repeated 52 times a year for maximum effect...
oh no, here comes the 3pm multipost
You said that already.
People who flip burgers should be paid as kings.
People who spend decades acquiring medical expertise and honing the skills required to perform those difficult and hotly demanded trades should be slaves.
That's social justice. How can social justice be bad? It sounds so... happy!
Healthcare is a different industry from food service. People NEED healthcare. Don't you see?
Bah. I cook at home. Just wish I had a slave to wash my dishes for me.
I walked up to the McDonald's last night, the very one that sucks and I hate, but I have been going to anyway lately because it is close and supposed to be open twenty-four hours and I haven't had time to get groceries. I walked up, and as soon as I toughed the door handle, all the outside lights turned off and the door was already locked. There was a minor snow storm going on, but still, fuck that place. Sooner or later they are going to get a brick.
The McD near my house has on their display "OPEN 24 hours all holidays".
You walked?
I understand that in a snowstorm you wouldn't want to get the bentley in a fender-bender, but that's what orphan-powered rickshaws are for.
What kind of libertarian are you?
The place is two doors down from the place where I currently reside. Also, I like to get some practice in being a hard mofo. I don't need the statist car oriented transportation system that discourages true self reliance.
I really like Naomi, spirit like hers is not often seen in this world anymore.
Who needs spirit when there's free shit? Did you know that you can buy anything with EBT and sell your food stamps on Craigslist?
Here's the poster-girl SEIU selected for the SF Bay Area performance:
"The 37-year-old mother of two still work two fast-food jobs - one at Jack-in-the-Box in Oakland, the other at KFC in Emeryville. One shift runs from 9:15 a.m. to 4:15 p.m., and the other begins at 8 p.m. and ends at 4:15 a.m.
The big change in her life is that now she's seven months pregnant, with little prospect that her pay will go up."
She's worked one job for NINE YEARS and is still flipping burgers; she obviously has zero skills other than making one kid after the other.
http://www.sfgate.com/politics.....039151.php
Wait, the only skill she has is poor decision making and is suffering as a result?
Well, hell, I don't know who deserves a raise more than she does.
Well, after all, welfare goes up if you add a kid. Why shouldn't pay? [sigh]
It's like the pregnancy didn't include a father of some sort.
The other day, Tony said 'they just happen naturally'.
I asked how many kids 'happened' to Tony and somehow there was no answer.
I thought Tony said that women get pregnant when they get hit by a truck, or something.
Anyway, war on women.
I believe it's a bus.
She works 16 hours a day?
Bullshit.
And she still has time for sex! Amazing!
I think a great concept for a reality show would be taking a bunch of left-wing protesters, give them a fast-food franchise for a year, and *surprise* raise the minimum wage in the middle of the season without notice and see how well they conduct business.
However, I can't come up with a witty enough name...
"That's Life!"
?
Monkeys' Business?
FYTW!!
"In-N-Out-Of-Business"
?
Current TV?
Has brand recognition...
That premise falls flat because they wouldn't last a day managing the business; there wouldn't be a "mid-season".
As I like to point out, if there's no downside to the $15/hr minimum wage, New York City shouldn't hesitate to enact it on its own.
Afterall, they now have a mayor that's very much in favor of living wage.
I, Robot.
I, make hamburgers very fast.
I, no ObamaCare.
I, no worker's compensation.
I, no vacation.
I, no file discrimination lawsuits.
I, no vote Democrat.
I, take your job, dumbass.
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Reason, dude, 170+ old comments, really? About some SJW posturing from more than half a year ago? This does not even count as mailing it in.
http://news.yahoo.com/bernie-s.....40890.html
The difference between bad and worse:
I was reading about GK Chesterton today, and stumbled on this book he wrote called The Flying Inn.
Man Chesterton was out of his mind. It's ludicrous to believe Britain could ever be ruled by an alliance of convenience between fundamentalist Islamists and radical progressives. And the rich getting around laws they forced on the poor by creating onerous licensing and certification programs? No way.
Because of this, alcohol sales to the poor are effectively prohibited, while the rich can get alcoholic drinks "under a medical certificate".
Ha! What a crazy flight of fantasy!
They didn't ban my favorite imported beer from Holland- Mega Strong Oranjeboom. 16% alcohol!
Great to sip on after a few double shots of tequila.
One issue about minimum wage that doesn't get enough discussion is that if you raise the minimum to $15.00, then there are going to be people willing to work at McDonald's who currently aren't willing to work there at $8.00. This means that, even if McDonalds workers aren't replaced by machines, they will now be competing with better educated, higher skilled workers for the same jobs.
In short, the people interviewed in this video would never be hired because they'd now be competing with workers who are actually worth $15.00 an hour, rather than with the completely unskilled workers they are currently competing against.
At $15.00 you can hire exclusively ambidextrous people, and cut your workforce in half 😛
The best analogy about this came from Old Mex. It was something to the effect of, if the government forced vacuums to be sold for no less than $300, there would be nothing but Dysons and roombas left on the market as no one would want to spend $300 for an old school Hoover. Minimum wages truly hurt the unskilled (the poor) the most.
One issue about minimum wage that doesn't get enough discussion is that if you raise the minimum to $15.00
How many? Can you think of many people who currently make over 15.00 an hour who would rather have a Mcjob if it payed the same rate? Working at McDonalds sucks for more reasons than just the shitty pay.
I think more important than that would be the people who right now are sitting on their couches relying on government and/or family members to support them.
So.. football is still kinda boring. When does hockey season start?
So, I had this thought: the NFL is very boring so the US should start a new sport. The participants are various police departments and they take all the lovely gear the military has given them and they "SWAT" each other. All televised, of course, perhaps pay-per-view. First match up: CPD vs NYPD. That would be entertaining.
Seattle Times wins the 100 yard dash to miss the point.
Sounds like prudent advice given the police force we have. How is this a racial issue?
Of course only .1 percent of the workers participated in the strike. They'll suffer some kind of retaliation, and even if they don't, these aren't people who can just not work and be down 70$ for the day. But if you want to know how they really feel, look at exit polls adjusted for race and income, or gallup polls on the issue.
When strikes happened in the Gilded age they very commonly involved not only not working but forcefully preventing other people from working as well. Try that in modern America, you'll get a ten year prison sentence.
They'll suffer some kind of retaliation, and even if they don't, these aren't people who can just not work and be down 70$ for the day.
Unless they're working 24/7 something like 15%+ of the workers should be on a day off, and they would pick up extra cash for going.
"When strikes happened in the Gilded age they very commonly involved not only not working but forcefully preventing other people from working as well. Try that in modern America, you'll get a ten year prison sentence."
Not sure which strike to which you're referring, but such activity *should* get you charged with a crime.
Any worker is (or should be) able to withhold their services to demand something from an employer, but if you employ thugs to coerce others from either taking the job or buying from the employer, that should be a crime.
Maybe, if that's the kind of society you want.
People wonder why there was so much strike activity in the gilded age and so little today, that's essentially the reason.
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"Maybe, if that's the kind of society you want."
So you are promoting thugs keeping others from either accepting jobs they want or buying from some seller?
Before I see you as lefty asshole, I want to make sure I have identified you correctly; Do I have that right?
I would not call myself a leftist since I support the continued existence of the White race and I support capitalism, but I do think that you have to have some type of protections for workers in a first world society.
It's interesting to note that during the supposedly more libertarian gilded age, workers were rarely punished for doing that. If the government won't protect workers sometimes they have to take matters into their own hands. Suppose some workers actually did that and I was on the jury, would I nullify? But since PRISM is watching me I'll say I don't support any type of seeking political change through violence.
'MURCAN!!!!11!!!, Hey buddy, how's being a racist asshat treating you?
It's been a long time, old friend.
Chule|9.15.14 @ 1:54AM|#
"I would not call myself a leftist"
No, I guess just plain ol' racist idjit will have to do.
Get lost, merkin.
Still waiting; lefty asshole?
if that's the kind of society you want.
Yes, I want the kind of society where I'm free to make decisions and face the consequences of my actions; however, I want to reap the benefits of my decisions when the consequences allow me to and suffer them when I have made a poor decision.
A world without risk is not a world that I want to take part in.
Jsut roll with the punches dude.
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You spelled Jesuit wrong.