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Two Dozen Sad Nazis Cost D.C. at Least $2.6 Million

White nationalists were vastly outnumbered by counterprotesters at Sunday’s Unite the Right II rally, but the whole affair cost the District millions.

Jeremy Hogan/Polaris/NewscomJeremy Hogan/Polaris/NewscomSunday's Unite the Right II rally in Washington, D.C., may have been sparsely attended by white nationalists, but it still cost the city at least $2.6 million.

The core Unite the Right group consisted of about two dozen people, although thousands showed up in response, including plenty of anti-fascist (antifa) and Black Lives Matter (BLM) protesters. All those counterprotesters made for a chaotic scene outside the White House. Unsurprisingly, there was a huge police presence in Lafayette Square, where the rally was held, and the surrounding area. Cops guarded the white nationalist protesters wherever they went, and the D.C. Metro even set aside a special train car for them.

According to The Washington Post, the Metropolitan Police Department ran up a bill of $2.5 million on staffing and overtime costs for the event. The remainder of the cost was attributed to other city agencies, including Public Works, Fire and Emergency Medical Services, and Homeland Security and Emergency Management.

Unite the Right II was a sequel to last year's Unite the Right event in Charlottesville, Virginia, where violent clashes broke out and one counterprotester was killed. In an attempt to prevent a repeat of Charlottesville, D.C. authorities pulled out all the stops. Now the city is hoping it won't have to pay the $2.6 million out of its own pocket. The Post reports:

The city plans to ask the federal government to reimburse those costs. Congress budgeted $13 million this year for a fund to help the District pay for responses to large-scale protests and events, which are common in the nation's capital but have become more frequent during the Trump administration.

It's worth noting that $2.6 million is only an early estimate, according to Anu Rangappa, a spokesperson for D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser. Plus that figure doesn't take into account what other police departments—including Virginia State Police, Fairfax police, and U.S. Park Police—had to spend. It's likely the actual cost will be higher.

Some people seemed to think the massive response only validated the white nationalists. "I really think we should just ignore them," counterprotester Glen Hellman told Reason outside the Vienna Metro station on Sunday morning, where Unite the Right rally participants boarded a subway headed into downtown D.C. "We're validating them, and that is a problem," he added, describing himself as "torn" over whether to ignore the rally or protest it

The rally's tiny size did not stop antifa protesters from getting all riled up. Decked out in black with their faces covered, they screamed chants like, "Any time, any place, punch a Nazi in the face."

Photo Credit: Jeremy Hogan/Polaris/Newscom

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  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    The president expected more invitees... Sorry, more fine people... Sorry, more protestors.

  • John||

    Charolottesville was a march started by history buffs that wanted to save the Lee statue. It was hijacked by a bunch of white nationalists. Yes, there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. And yes, Antifa is just as bad or worse than any white nationalist organization. Everything Trump said was true.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    Re: John,

    --- Charolottesville was a march started by history buffs that wanted to save the Lee statue. ---

    History buffs post YouTube videos or write essays.

    --- It was hijacked by a bunch of white nationalists.---

    Who must've been very fine people.

    ---Everything Trump said was true.---

    I believe he thought there were fine people among the Nazis and white supremacists who were carrying torches and shields.

    Stop making a fool of yourself, John. Trump wasn't thinking there were history buffs among that despicable bunch. You're merely offering a rationalization of your own manufacture.

  • John||

    History buffs post YouTube videos or write essays.

    They had a march in this case. And not everyone who thinks that destroying history and public art is a bad idea is a white nationalist. It is what it is. The Unite the Right rally hijacked an existing march that was not white nationalist.

    I believe he thought there were fine people among the Nazis and white supremacists who were carrying torches and shields.
    That is because you are a retarded, racist idiot. I am sure you believe a lot of things that are contrary to reality. But that doesn't obligate the rest of us to agree with you.

    I would say you are embarrassing yourself here, but you have long shown that you are incapable of embarrassment.

  • Just Say'n||

    Are you going to start the libertarians for antifa violence because the NAP is a joke now anyways caucus?

  • John||

    Antifa were just like the men who stormed Omaha Beach Just Say'n. Mexican is sure of it.

  • Just Say'n||

    They're exactly like the men who stormed Omaha Beach, minus the existence of actual Nazis and actual danger

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Wrong front, Just. They're exactly like the fodder that Stalin threw against the Nazis at Leningrad.

  • markm23||

    Antifa is just like the Brownshirts that helped put Hitler in power by terrorizing his political opponents.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    But if you think that it's excessive and unnecessary to erase every vestige of Robert E. Lee from history and the public square, that by itself makes you a "Nazi" according to Matt Welch, Nick Gillespie, Ron Bailey, and all the rest of the fugazi libertarian clownshow at Reason now.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    What are they going to do with people who have "Lee" as a last name?

  • gaoxiaen||

    Send them to China?

  • Fancylad||

    The Chinese are racist, Confederate slavers in league with the Nazis and Fascist frogposters on 4chan...

    It's all so clear to me now. Thanks Reason. Thanks Tony.

  • mpercy||

    Korea?

  • John||

    Maintaining order is a core function of government. The Nazis had a right to march. The fact that the fascists on the other side showed up hoping to do harm to them is not the Nazis fault. Had the Antifa not showed up or had it not been known to be so violent, there would have been no reason for a police presence that large. The responsibility for these costs rests entirely with Antifa. Had the DC police not done their jobs, Antifa would have showed up and started a riot and it would have resulted in all kinds of harm and if the city was not lucky tragedy like what happened in Charlottesville last year.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    ^This. I've heard a lot of carping about the "special Metro car". Antifa isn't pissed because of the "special treatment" as such; they're pissed because they wanted to assault the protesters but couldn't. Considering the disparity in the numbers, I've little doubt that even those pissant cowards would have done it if the police hadn't stopped them.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""I've little doubt that even those pissant cowards would have done it if the police hadn't stopped them.""

    Probably. They like to blame the other side for the violence they start. Some people believe it.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    :P

    Nuff said.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Agreed. If the Antifa and BLM were not violent thugs, the Nazis could have marched through DC at basically no expense to the government at all.

    It was the left-wing thugs who caused all the expense. Standard blame the victim, like requiring conservative groups on campus to pay for the security needs caused by the violent left.

    At least they GOT the protection this time.

  • I can't even||

    And half the "Nazi's" were probably FBI infiltrators. A few middle-aged white guys in a park didn't cost any government anything.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    I vaguely remember reading an interview with an FBI official, way back in the 1980's, when people wanting to embarrass Reagan were whining "He's a Racist. That's why he doesn't do something about the Klan!". This guy said, in effect, that the Klan (at that time) was a spent firecracker. Yes, on paper they had some following, but he thiught that if the various government moles and informers pulled out the might have trouble manning a softball league.

    One common thread I've noticed in my years of reading about dangerous groups; the media has no interest whatsoever in realism. They won't write realistically about drug gangs - it's either play it down because they're poor minorities or p,ay it up because we need circulation. Their accounts of Biker gangs, survivalist militias, the Klan, the Neo-Nazis and so on are mostly bullshit they get from State and Federal prosecutors who want to run for higher office on the strength of opposing said groups.

    Not that they are harmless, especially if you unwittingly walk into a bar full and they take a dislike to you. But their depiction in the media (and Hollywood) bears the same resemblence to reality as DC comics The Joker does to a real carrer criminal.

  • Eddy||

    "But their depiction in the media (and Hollywood) bears the same resemblence to reality as DC comics The Joker does to a real carrer criminal."

    That's funny. Let me express my amusement:

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  • sharmota4zeb||

    People don't like reading about math. That's why they didn't invite my mom to many dinner parties. The media has to print what people like to read. The audience for the typical math book is conscripted.

  • Hamster of Doom||

    I noticed that too. It's hardly the Nazis' fault DC chose to spend 2.6 million. There's a few interested parties here, and while I can't decide if the culpability is heavier on the righteous aggression of counterprotestors or DC for spending 2.6 frakking million, I'm pretty comfortable assigning the Nazis a low priority on the responsible-for-this totem pole. This wasn't their fault.

  • Lost in the Woods||

    Well said, John

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    But we got 24x7 above-the-fold coverage in every major newspaper and endless retweets. That's worth something, right?

  • John||

    I had dinner parties that attracted a larger crowd than Unite the Right. But it is totally representative of anyone to the right of Elizabeth Warren. Old Mexican assures me of this.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    Liar.

  • John||

    Tell us more about the evil white people Mexican.

  • gaoxiaen||

    I've had keggers that attracted a larger crowd than Unite the Right. Because beer.

  • Just Say'n||

    So weird that an ostensibly *libertarian* publication would complain about the cost of protecting people's right to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Adopting the ACLU way of think, it would appear

  • Just Say'n||

    "The rally's tiny size did not stop antifa protesters from getting all riled up. Decked out in black with their faces covered, they screamed chants like, "Any time, any place, punch a Nazi in the face."

    Seems strange that all that money was spent for protesters who just shouted. I guess that's all they did.

  • Eddy||

    "When we go to bars we still get carded, but even for young people, we're really retarded."

  • Longtobefree||

    And yet, no one punched them in the face - - - - - - - - - -

  • Slocum||

    No, two dozen sad Nazis didn't cost the DC government all that money -- the threats of riots from the much more numerous and more violent Antifa counter-demonstrators did that. I'm sure Charlottesville spent a considerable chunk of money on Sunday too, and there weren't any neo-Nazis there at all, just masked, black-shirted Antifa goons attacking cops and reporters. Hell, even Vox is cautiously, grudgingly starting to notice:

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You know who else cost American taxpayers a lot?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Homeless people?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Maybe that's unfair, let me amend my answer: People trying to "help" homeless people?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    There are no wrong answers.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    If only people would stop snitching on developers, they could build skyscrapers on the down low.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Congress?

    Leona HelmsleyHillary Clinton?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Hillary is the Leona of politics.

  • Eddy||

    Saving Hitler's brain?

    (Note that I didn't, technically, say "Hitler")

  • Deconstructed Potato||

    Bruce Banner?

  • lap83||

    Was there ever the faintest glimmer of embarrassment among any of the counterprotesters that it took hundreds of them to attempt to intimidate a few doughy white guys? At some point a person with a shred of self-awareness would realize.."Oh, wait. I'm not the victim here. I'm the retarded bully with a glandular problem stealing the nerd's lunch money"

  • John||

    You would think so. But instead, they all went home feeling smug and thinking of themselves as brave resistance fighters. I am not kidding. They are that stupid and removed from reality.

  • jcw||

    If you think any kind of protestor (in this situation or ever) has any self-awareness, you will always be disappointed.

  • Just Say'n||

    Serious question: if an antifa soy boy and a Nazi dough boy got into a fight what would be considered a dirty move?

    (a) cupping the Nazi dough boy's supple bust and giving his C cup a titty twister?

    or

    (b) ripping the antifa soy boy's Gucci Che t-shirt that his parents bought for him while he plays revolutionary?

  • John||

    The unite the right idiots look like a bunch of losers who escaped from their mom's basement. The Patriot Prayer guys out in Portland, however, look like no shit bikers and rednecks. Antifa better pray to God they never get into a situation where the police will not protect them from the Patriot Prayer people because that would be an epic ass-kicking.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    The ruffians tend to get doughy after the Jews move into town because of the high quality baked goods that appear in grocery stores. It's all part of our plans for demographic replacement. After a certain point, belly fat starts to cover a man's ...

  • Yellow Tony||

    Fucking hot!

  • lap83||

    a) is dirtier because b) would just give the antifa guy more victim cred

    Im not sure but I think the only way to deal with the antifa guy is to ignore his whole revolutionary bs and treat him in the most mundane way possible. Like ask to connect on LinkedIn and then spam him with job hunting advice articles

  • Just Say'n||

    Brutal

  • John||

    You are brilliant Lap83, absolutely brilliant.

  • Libertymike||

    Let me repeat: what John said.

    That is some funny ass shit.

  • Nardz||

    I third that, lap83

  • Deconstructed Potato||

    I fourth

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Ha ha, great! The Antifa guy would be curled up in the fetal position for at least a month.

  • ||

    Serious question: if an antifa soy boy and a Nazi dough boy got into a fight what would be considered a dirty move?

    I think the takeaway lesson is that Crossfitters are the real Nazis.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    Are we committed enough to gender equality to say that purple nurples are not allowed in a bar fight among men?

  • ||

    I hear they're immune to embarrassment, introspection, and humor.

  • The Last American Hero||

    It's a small price to pay to preserve freedom of speech.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Hold up there Bub. If ten or 100 times as many antifa showed up, isn't that where the cost belongs?

  • Nardz||

    "No border. No wall. No USA at all!"

  • perlchpr||

    I want to get it on video and then put it on TV right before the election.

  • XM||

    To be fair, the cost would be somewhat less than 2 mil if the city spent less on police salaries or overtime. They could have contracted some private security force, but perish the thought!

    I've read online comments by people who live in these communities that these white nationalist fringe marches are fairly common.It sort of happens, ends, and no one really sees it. In the final years of the Obama term there were some ultra right wing rallies in OC that didn't get much attention. Of course after Trump events like this are an indication that Jim Crow is back in America.

    I'm not white and neither are my parents, and our lives have never been significantly disrupted by any "Nazis". Whereas if you were foreigner living in some place like Korea, you WILL feel like an outsider at one point or another. It's just fascinating to me what kind of a fantasy world in which Tony and his friends choose to live in. The Korean FOBs who's been living here for 5 years aren't afraid of getting lynched by some random white mobs who chant "you must die because you're different from us".

    You've living in one of the greatest nation on earth where you don't have to wrestle with 50 billion people on the street just to get to work, and you CHOOSE to live in fear.

  • Fancylad||

    Tony and his friends don't actually live in the fantasy world, it's just a rhetorical trick they employ when the plebs complain about being stomped under their jackboots.

  • XM||

    To be fair, the cost would be somewhat less than 2 mil if the city spent less on police salaries or overtime. They could have contracted some private security force, but perish the thought!

    I've read online comments by people who live in these communities that these white nationalist fringe marches are fairly common.It sort of happens, ends, and no one really sees it. In the final years of the Obama term there were some ultra right wing rallies in OC that didn't get much attention. Of course after Trump events like this are an indication that Jim Crow is back in America.

    I'm not white and neither are my parents, and our lives have never been significantly disrupted by any "Nazis". Whereas if you were foreigner living in some place like Korea, you WILL feel like an outsider at one point or another. It's just fascinating to me what kind of a fantasy world in which Tony and his friends choose to live in. The Korean FOBs who's been living here for 5 years aren't afraid of getting lynched by some random white mobs who chant "you must die because you're different from us".

    You've living in one of the greatest nation on earth where you don't have to wrestle with 50 billion people on the street just to get to work, and you CHOOSE to live in fear.

  • Lost in the Woods||

    "'I really think we should just ignore them,' counter protester Glen Hellman told Reason." But then, evidently, he didn't just ignore them. I wonder why it is so difficult for some people to simply ignore two dozen mostly harmless white nationalist whack jobs, thereby rendering their pathetic march a non-event. Even the BLM showed up. I would have thought Bureau of Land Management people would have better things to do, like managing some land or something.

  • Eddy||

    I think that federal parks in DC constitute land to be managed.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    The core Unite the Right group consisted of about two dozen people, although thousands showed up in response, including plenty of anti-fascist (antifa) and Black Lives Matter (BLM) protesters. All those counterprotesters made for a chaotic scene outside the White House.

    The counter protest made the event so expensive. If there were only 24 guys, 50 cops would be enough security. That's what? $50,000 in overtime and overhead at most?

  • ranrod||

    'Alt-right' leader Richard Spencer has voted for Democrats in the past, including John Kerry | Elections | Dallas News
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/elections/ 2017/10/19/alt-rightleader-richard-spencer- wild-votingbut-backed-democrat-kerry-trump

  • Dadlobby||

    Antifa needs the fake "alt-right" to justify their idiocy. One does wonder if they are all a bunch of narcissists in need of attention and politically the same. Most of us "right wings nutjobs" (anyone right of Elizabeth Warren) have jobs and don't give a shit about whiney little snots who vacate their mommies basement to protest. I miss the old days (1970's) when the cops stood aside and let the brawl go, arresting the winner and sending the loser to the hospital. Bring on the firehoses and police dogs!

  • ranrod||

    Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?
    Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based "public relations firm specializing in innovative events" to serve as agitators in counterprotests.

    The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area." While the ad didn't explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of "actors and photographers" it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were "ok with participating in peaceful protests." Here is the text from the ad:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/ why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour- political-activists-charlotte-last-wee

  • ranrod||

    Charlottesville: A Staged Event?
    What none of us knew initially was that Kessler, who graduated from the University of Virginia in 2009, had been involved with Occupy Wall Street and was an Obama supporter. He also appears to have worked for CNN in 2011.
    The permit was revoked just days prior to the event by Wes Bellamy, Charlottesville's left wing Vice-Mayor who incidentally is a member of the radical Black Panther Party. The ACLU of Virginia sued and got the permit reinstated. Doubtless this rubbed Charlottesville's left wing city government the wrong way. Some leftists, as I've noted, go into spit-spraying apoplexy and violent rages when they don't get what they want.
    In the meantime, mainstream media gave the projected event 24/7 coverage.
    People have changed political positions before, of course. I've done so myself.* But to change from card-carrying Obama supporter (Democrat, obviously) to alt-rightist and organizer of an event like this in one fell swoop? That is a bit much to swallow!

  • ranrod||

    Another person of interest in this saga is one Brennan Gilmore, conveniently on the scene, immediately interviewed by the über-mainstream MSNBC. Gilmore worked in Africa as a State Department foreign officer under none other than Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State. He was involved in the Kony hoax in 2012. He is currently Chief of Staff for Democrat Tony Perrielo, who is running for Governor of Virginia and — wait for it — received $380K from George Soros.
    If any sanity prevails in the U.S., it must eventually become obvious to more and more people: it is the tens of thousands of cultural leftists, "educated" on today's campuses, acting like herd animals, demanding absolute conformity of thought and action, who viciously punish anyone including their own who deviate or stray from ideological purity, and not the comparatively few neo-Nazis or Klansmen who actually still exist, who are the real existential threat to America, its Constitution, and the rule of law.
    https://newswithviews.com/ charlottesville-a-staged-event/

  • ranrod||

    Charlottesville Racist Leader Was Former Occupy Activist, Obama Supporter..
    Jason Kessler(scam artist), the organizer of last Saturday's white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, is rumored to be a former Occupy Wall Street activist and supporter of Barack Obama.
    James Alex Fields, Jr., the 20-year-old who plowed his car into a left-wing counter-demonstration in Charlottesville, killing one and injuring several others, had been diagnosed with schizophrenia as a boy and had been given antipsychotic drugs. It is not clear if he is still taking them.
    Occupy Wall Street was a radical left-wing movement that began in 2011 in Manhattan and spread throughout the globe. It was committed to the destruction of the capitalist system, and included violent and extremist elements that waged confrontations with police in the fall and winter of 2011-2. President Barack Obama, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Media Matters for America, and other Democrats nevertheless embraced the Occupy movement.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/ 2017/08/15/ report-splc-charlottesville-racist- former-occupy-activist- obama-supporter-jason-kessler/

  • Cranedoc||

    Heard from a friend who works in Alaska, they met some young tourists, got to talking. Friend asked what they did for work, and couldn't understand when they replied "political activist."

  • Elilis Wyatt||

    Why is Reason increasing its alt-right contributors?

    The rally's tiny size did not stop antifa protesters from getting all riled up. Decked out in black with their faces covered, they screamed chants like, "Any time, any place, punch a Nazi in the face."

    They should have known the size of Unite the Right before they ever saw it, especially when all the news reports predicted 400.

    Punching nazis in the face is minor, compared to gas ovens.

  • Deconstructed Potato||

    What about what about what about...

  • Azathoth!!||

    Michael, the people who had the ovens are dead. They've been dead for a long time now.

    There are neo-nazis, and Nazi wannabes, but there are no real Nazis that anyone can punch anymore.

  • ThomasD||

    This article is a sick joke.

    Can we now dispense with the notion that Setyon is in any way a libertarian, or has any business appearing in an ostensibly libertarian publication?

    He's blaming a drag queen for riling up the prudes with his too short skirt.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Setyon appears to be a "Grove City libertarian."

    That's a relatively standard-issue social conservative who believes that donning libertarian drag improves prospects for pushing movement conservatism in a society trending against backwardness, superstition, and old-timey bigotry.

  • Curly4||

    NO! It was not a few Nazis that cost the city that money but the protesters. The White Nationalists, Nazis, etc, etc, did not do any damage but the protesters did. Had the protesters of the White Nationalists, Nazis, etc, etc, not shown up the White Nationalists would not lasted as long as they did. This is what I have noticed every since Trump was nominated for the office of president right up to the present time. It has the ANTIFA and their allies on the left that has caused to trouble not only to conservative who tried to hold meeting from colleges to out in the open, from the west cost to the east cost it has been the ANTIFA that has caused the trouble. There have been very few demonstrations by the democrats and those to their left that there was a counter demonstration by those on the right which attacked physically demonstrators on the left side. but the left has prevented the right from having a speaker at a university to clashes when the right has tried to have a march out of doors.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Quit whining, clinger.

  • MasterThief||

    It sounds like the counter-protesters (I'll be generous enough to apply that label to them) are really the reason why the rally/march cost the city so much. A couple dozen people marching and not initiating violence does not require such an outpouring of resources. Thousands arriving to oppose them (some with violence) is the reason why there was such a heavy police presence.
    Out of curiosity, how much did the women's march cost the city and did the federal government foot the cost for all these same services they had to provide?

  • Cloudbuster||

    Two Dozen Sad Nazis Cost D.C. at Least $2.6 Million

    The crowds of filthy, violent leftists protesting them have no agency, of course.

  • Cloudbuster||

    Seyton just graduated from college last year. Magazines should put age restrictions on who is allowed to opine. Seyton's not old enough to appreciate how insane things have gotten. To him, it was always this way.

  • mhj||

    I despise Nazis, but it wasn't the 26 neo-Nazis that made DC spend all that money, it was the threat of hundreds or thousands of violent counter-demonstrators.

  • Jayburd||

    OVERTIME GRAVY!!!!

  • vek||

    So I actually listened to an interview with Kessler who threw this shindig.

    I guess the cops basically forced him to leave the train station early, as in before they were supposed to leave, which meant a lot of people that were supposed to go got ditched. So there wouldn't have been many still, but it would have been more than a couple dozen if the cops hadn't done that.

    Also, I would like to note that Kessler is definitely not a Nazi. He's basically a political moderate, who used to be a Democrat, who is sick and tired of the anti white shit, and trying to destroy history by taking down statues etc. His position is simply that if all other ethnic groups are going to organize along racial lines, and gang up on white people, that white people are going to have to organize for their own self interests sooner or later too... So get used to it.

    He's not even a white nationalist! He doesn't think American can or should become overwhelmingly white again, just that we need to be able to advocate for our interests. He had a black guy with him, and a Hispanic Trump supporter spoke as well... So the Nazi narrative from the MSM is kinda BS.

  • vek||

    Anybody who wants to get it straight from the horses mouth should YouTube Luke Ford Jason Kessler interview. It's interesting. If you go around the MSM and actually hear what a lot of these people are actually saying, you'll realize they're not nearly the evil bastards they are made out to be.

    And finally, yes, it is ANTIFA that caused the massive run up in the bill. If we didn't have violent communists going out and trying to assault people for having fairly sane, rational, and moderate things to say then we wouldn't have to spend tons of money.

    The fact is while these people were going out to talk about white identity issues, ANTIFA goes out and attacks any run of the mill conservative they can find too. This weekend in Seattle Patriot Prayer ran by Joey Gibson is having an open carry event to protest a proposed new gun law, and it is going to be a shit show... They call him a Nazi... Even though Joey Gibson is not a "proper" white person, and his right hand guy is a fucking Samoan! Samoan Nazis, what will they think of next??? It's a joke.

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    All good points - thank you!

    This statement If you go around the MSM and actually hear what a lot of these people are actually saying I think is the core of what is driving the left crazy.

    For decades they've done a really good job of cornering the market on messaging - TV, movies, entertainment, education, and after all that effort, they are losing because of twitter and youtube. The deplorables have a voice, and the left simply can't stand it.

  • vek||

    Yup. They can't stand losing control of the narrative. Obviously the few actual Nazis out there, or white nationalists are taking some pretty extreme positions, but the fact is they're not 1/100th the boogie men they're made out to be. Go listen to Jared Taylor, who is a white nationalist, and he has a hell of a lot of data and logic behind his arguments. He's also 110% against violence, or even booting anybody out of the country or whatever. He's just making a calm argument as to why ethno states have a lot of upsides, and multicultural states historically tend to be turbulent, and generally fail. Why shouldn't that be a topic that can be discussed rationally???

    More normal conservative people speaking out about the insanity of the left is a far more immediate threat to the left though, as half the country + can stomach their arguments... Especially since they mostly actually make sense, as opposed to being logic free emotional flailing like the left. The left can't have people listening to reason and logic, because their arguments don't hold up against such "evil" tools being used by their enemies!

  • Dadlobby||

    Hey, I like the right wing nutjob "nazi" label. Being a middle of the road Gadsden Flag flying Libertarian advocating for individual rights under the Constitution certainly makes me "alt-right". Gasp, I even advocate for equal rights for men and women (including parental rights for fathers!) which may have gotten me onto a government watch list or two! We can't have "Patriarchal" white "Nazis" speaking freely and asking government for a redress of grievances, we need more government control to control the..... Patriarchal powers in Government! http://www.nymensactionnetwork.org

  • Michael Cook||

    Anyhow, two dozen Nazis is a pathetic turnout. My son had much bigger gatherings than that at his first two weddings. The third was smaller, but has turned out much better.

    We had an Antifa protest here in Kent, WA near my go-to supermarket two months ago. A nearby local abortion clinic always has one or two lonely anti-abortion picketers show up on Saturdays. Somebody in Seattle decided to dispatch two bus loads of Antifa to protest the picketers.

    This triggered local law enforcement to turn out en masse, including a complete marching riot squad, as well as a swarm of hovering news choppers and media trucks arriving. It was quite a show. One of the Antifa people came over to the supermarket to get a sandwich and told a pal of mine he was getting $15/hr, 8hrs guaranteed.

  • vek||

    You're another Washingtonian huh? There are a few of us on here. I live in Seattle. I'm tempted to go to the open carry thing this weekend, but probably just as an "observer" so to speak. I don't need some idiot ANTIFA person thinking I'm literally Hit and then trying to ruin my life or whatever.

    As far as things go, maybe I should sign up to become an ANTIFA member. $15 an hour to stand around and be an idiot isn't such hard work for a side gig!

  • Longtobefree||

    Except either way your face winds up in a searchable data base - - - - - - - - - - -

  • vek||

    Truth! I didn't end up going to the thing anyway. I guess it didn't get too rowdy, which is amazing. Most of them have been a shit show in Seattle and Portland.

  • TxJack 112||

    No the hundreds of leftist demonstrators who attacked police, attacked the media, attacked innocent citizens and engaged in wholesale mayhem is what cost the city $2.6 million. If the city was confident they would not have done exactly what they did, then the police presence would have been minimal. However, since the day of the inauguration, these leftist radicals have rioted and attacked police and innocent bystanders in their "fight against fascism" which is totally crap. The cost of these events will just continue to increase because at some point, people in the middle are going to get tired of what these idiots are doing and begin showing up to fight back regardless of the reason.

  • BILKER||

    The antifas and protestors were the problem that required a large police presence. If these asshats would not have shown up in huge numbers to protest the neo nazis or whatever they call themselves there would have been NO threat to public safety. The 2 dozen or so demonstrators would have wandered around for a while , made their little speechs and left. But , no, the rioters disguised as protesters made the threat of violence real. It is what antifas, blm and the other antis always do. they do not care what the demonstrators are for or against, just that they want to curtail any speech that does not agree with what the antifas, blm and socialist/prorgressives say. They are the real problem. And of course the press egged the antifas et al on to generate more "news" for the media to incite more protesters.

  • JDS1||

    It is not fair that DC bears the costs for so many protests which are directed at the federal government. Particularly because it does not have representation in Congress. The federal government should foot the bill for this, or DC should just let people start attacking the White House, Senate, and House and let the feds coordinate a response.

  • Longtobefree||

    Well, the snipers on top of the White House could have taken anyone down who was an actual threat, so yeah.

  • Longtobefree||

    Any chance at all that DC will ever publish the work of fiction that generated the 2.6 million cost fantasy?

    (I don't click WaPo links, if their story has a breakdown, I won't believe it any more than I believe Tony)

  • ||

    The military should take anyone who identifies as a liberal should be lined up on the National Mall and mow them down with M16s.

  • US Patent Attorneys||

    Sure, in the final years of the Obama term there were some ultra right wing rallies in OC that didn't get much attention.

  • Longtobefree||

    Whiskey.
    Tango.
    Foxtrot.

    Security for a MILITARY parade?
    Give the marchers live ammo. March with fixed bayonets. Problem solved.
    If the on duty DC cops want to watch, fine, but that's it.
    Last I checked, we pay the military anyway.
    Total extra cost = zero.

    Seems democrats can't do math. But we knew that already.

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