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Peter Strzok Gets Shouty at 10-Hour Grilling on FBI Agent's 2016 Texts: Reason Roundup

Plus: charges against Stormy Daniels dropped, U.S. loses millions minting pennies, and the perils of "a collective right to attention"

screenshot/Strzok hearing on NBC newsscreenshot/Strzok hearing on NBC newsFBI agent Peter Strzok was in the hot seat for 10 hours Thursday, as members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee grilled him on texts sent to another agent in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election. At the time, Strzok was a principal team member on investigations into Hillary Clinton's emails and into possible collusion between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia. Text messages obtained by Special Counsel Robert Mueller show Strzok making disparaging remarks about Trump and, in one message, assuring colleague and romantic partner Lisa Page that "we'll stop" Trump from becoming president.

"Strzok said under aggressive questioning that a much-discussed August 2016 text...followed Trump's denigration of the family of a dead U.S. service member," the Associated Press notes.

He said the late-night, off-the-cuff text reflected his belief that Americans would not stomach such "horrible, disgusting behavior" by the presidential candidate. But, he added in a raised voice and emphatic tone: "It was in no way—unequivocally—any suggestion that me, the FBI, would take any action whatsoever to improperly impact the electoral process for any candidate. So, I take great offense, and I take great disagreement to your assertion of what that was or wasn't."

Republicans on the Congressional committee, including chair Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), refused to budge on the now-popular GOP narrative that Strzok Gowdy tried to throw the election for Clinton. "Agent Strzok had Hillary Clinton winning the White House before he finished investigating her," Gowdy told the committee. "Agent Strzok had Donald Trump impeached before he even started investigating him. That is bias."

By the day's end, the hearing "devolved into shouting matches, finger-pointing and veiled references to personal transgressions," says the AP. Throughout the circus, Strzok insisted that his personal feelings about Trump didn't affect his job, pointing out that he had also criticized Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders in his messages but had never leaked information or let negative views of any candidate bias his work.

"What I am telling you is I and the other men and women of the FBI, every day take our personal beliefs, and set those aside in vigorous pursuit of the truth—wherever it lies, whatever it is," said Strzok.

"And I don't believe you," responded Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas).

FREE MINDS

A collective "right to attention"? Our increasingly paranoid national discourse on "Russian influence" on U.S. elections reveals a strange new statist tendency: governments (and those that love them) asserting "a collective right to attention." Those with "fears over 'election-hacking' in the 2016 U.S., U.K., French and German elections," laments Julia Slupska, seldom stop to ponder a more fundamental question: "If a state interferes with another state's politics, is it wrong? On what grounds?"

More from Slupska's recent Libertarianism.org post:

[H]ow can we object to foreign interference without implicitly justifying information control? Complaints over foreign propaganda have uncomfortable implications: if funding online advertisements counts as unacceptable foreign meddling, why doesn't funding radio stations like Radio Free Europe (as Russia Today points out)? What—precisely—is unethical about interference anyway? This blog posts suggests that we might be able to find some clarity on these issues from an unexpected source: the emerging literature on digital design ethics.

Digital environments are often designed to pilfer your attention. The '...' that comes up when you're waiting for someone to text you back keeps you at your screen, waiting for a reward. Facebook and Twitter feeds auto-refresh without prompting to keep you scrolling. Bright red notifications remind us of our desire for social interaction. Persuasive design might be annoying, but is it also in some sense unethical?

Many say yes. "An emerging literature on the ethics of attention seeks to...create ethical guidelines for technology designers, primarily those whose business model is based on advertising" and "suggests that attention-grabbing intrusions can be unethical," especially "when systematic distractions infringe on individual freedom and agency," notes Slupska. She believes these concerns present "a useful framework for understanding disruptive and confusing phenomena in modern politics," such as fears over "election-hacking."

Current debates underappreciate the extent to which election-hacking is about conflict over attention rather than information. Leading scholars of state propaganda have noted that states are increasingly focusing on amplification of government opinion rather than censoring specific information. Our limited ability to consume information is key to these strategies; consequently, political theory needs to incorporate the ethics of attention. This suggests a startling new reality: just as states traditionally competed for resources like territory or oil, they now seem to be competing for attention.

Read the whole thing here.

FREE MARKETS

We're losing tens of millions of dollars per year minting U.S. pennies. In 2017, "the U.S. Mint produced more than 8.4 billion pennies for circulation," reports Government Executive. "Between production costs and shipping, they cost $0.0182 each, which totaled to $69 million...in losses compared to their total value—the biggest in nine years." The rising cost of zinc, which makes up the bulk of penny composition, is one of the culprits. Nickels are also money-losers for the government, but "the Mint makes up the losses incurred on pennies and nickels with its 10- and 25-cent coins, and last year reported making $391.5 million in seigniorage."

FOLLOW-UP

Daniels dances again. The charges against Stormy Daniels for allegedly violating an Ohio strip-club law while dancing in Columbus this week have been dropped. Daniels performed at a different Columbus club Thursday night, saying that proceeds would go to the defense of the two other dancers arrested with her. The arrests are part of what Columbus cops have called an ongoing "human trafficking" operation.

QUICK HITS

  • The Trump administration says it "has complied with the first part of a court order to return the nearly 3,000 migrant children separated from their parents in recent months," NPR reports.
  • An update on the World Health Organization's alleged inclusion of sex addiction and gaming addiction as mental disorders.
  • The Justice Department is fighting the planned merger of AT&T and Time Warner.
  • Asians have displaced blacks "as the most economically divided group in the U.S.," according to a new study from Pew Research.
  • Woodchucks #Resist Paul Ryan.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    FBI agent Peter Strzok was in the hot seat for 10 hours Thursday...

    AT LONG LAST HAVE YOU NO DECENCY?

  • ||

    Hello.

    Marriage has made ENB punctual.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Including her punctuation? How long can she keep her periods punctual?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    A good diet helps with periods.

  • Shirley Knott||

    No.
    Why do you ask?

    I note with (extremely) mild interest the fulminating outrage against slurs against the FBI and its jackbooted thugs brave men and women somehow never denies the charge that led to such a response.

  • Citizen X||

    It's not bias if you believe your side is right!

  • Don't look at me.||

    What kind of dumbass do you have to be to put things like that in writing?

  • wareagle||

    The kind who knows nothing will happen to you.

  • wareagle||

    The kind who knows that nothing will happen to you.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Maybe I was hacked.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    No doubt that smirking little weasel Strzok is one of the smoothest, most polished liars I've ever seen in my life. No wonder he went far as an FBI agent.

    He's the kind of guy who could probably convince his wife he was innocent even if she caught him red-handed in bed with another woman.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You and Hannity jerked off to this sorry spectacle no doubt.

    Congress is pathetic.

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    I am deeply offended by your rudeness and vulgarity!

    You sir have no place in modern political thought!

    Bad manners!

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Buttplug with his daily "my team yay! other team boooooo!" post.

    He's got the intellectual agility of a fencepost.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Congress is pathetic.

    This is a "team" comment?

    I am a true independent unlike the TEAM RED! retards that post here like yourself.

  • Cy||

    "I am a true independent unlike the TEAM RED! retards that post here like yourself."

    Ironic troll is ironic.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    "I am a true independent unlike the TEAM RED! retards that post here like yourself."

    Damn you. You just made me laugh so hard I wet myself.

    I've bashed Trump. I bashed Moore. I've argued with John over gay marriage. I argued with John or Ken over Kavanaugh. I've posted that the child separation policy was horseshit. Please point to one TEAM RED! post I've made. You won't because you can't.

    You, on the other hand, can't even admit that it was the Obama administration's "dear colleague" letter that set off the Soviet show trial Title IX tribunes on college campuses. You're less independent than Pelosi.

  • DesigNate||

    I always enjoy shriek's holier than thou, I'm so principled shtick. Like he's the most libertarian person ever and we're all just Team Red shills.

    Even though he has never seen a Team Blue policy or action he didn't like. At least until the Republicans do it to.

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    Your Disparating remarks against peopltrump with disabilities shows the entire world the vulgarity and hatred of yourself, and everyone who thinks like you!

    Such a a display of rudeness and crudeness has no place in modern society, and I will be glad when we get rid of you, as well as everyone who shares your political beliefs!

    You sir should be ashamed!

  • jay||

    lets pretend your Hannity reference didn't have anything to do with your congress comment.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    He's the kind of guy who could probably convince his wife he was innocent even if she caught him red-handed in bed with another woman.

    Only The Dotard is allowed to bone porn sluts when his wife is pregnant with their first child, right?

  • Cy||

    He's still your President!

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    True -- until Mr. Mueller is done with him, anyway.

    Or until he tires of the adulation of uneducated goobers and resigns, to resume a life of cheating on his wife and even more golf while he still can waddle his way to a golf cart.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""to resume a life of cheating on his wife and even more golf while he still can waddle his way to a golf cart.""

    If Trump decides to go the way of Bill Clinton, what's wrong with that?

  • An Owl Named Dur||

    Ah, a whataboutism. The irrebutable response to any argument.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    You misspelled "But Bush!"

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Butt bush? Ewww.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Goodlatte threatened Strzok with contempt. Gohmert accused Strzok of perjury and mentioned his wife and affair. And Darrell Issa forced Strzok to read his own text messages aloud—including ones that included vulgarities. A look at today's "3-ring circus": https://t.co/LZROSOCc7p
    — Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) July 13, 2018

    Circuses aren't that entertaining. And have fewer clowns.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Fucking Zing.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The Trump administration says it "has complied with the first part of a court order to return the nearly 3,000 migrant children separated from their parents in recent months," NPR reports.

    Part, as we all know, is good enough for government work.

  • Jerryskids||

    Getting part of the job done is the

  • Palin's Buttplug||


    Scholars Poll Ranks Donald Trump As 'Worst President Of All-Time'

    President Trump has ranked as the worst president of all time in the 2018 Presidents & Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey released by Boise State University Monday. The poll ranks "presidential greatness," since the first POTUS.

    When only Republican respondents were polled, Trump still ranked 40th worst out of 45 Presidents. Trump managed to beat James Buchanan among Republican pollsters. Buchanan oversaw the seccession of seven states before the Civil War.


    https://goo.gl/hSLs47

    A little harsh considering Baby Bush's disastrous two terms.

  • ||

    Lol.

    And that shithead Obama and his remedial bull shit is ranked 8th.

    GTFOH with that nonsense.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    They should have given him the Nobel Prize for Terrible before he even took office!

  • Bubba Jones||

    They don't define greatness, everyone wants FDR as the next choice on Mount Rushmore and the Democrats select BARACK OBAMA as their second choice for Mount Rushmore.

    So, I think this list is the anti-libertarian choice.

    http://sps.boisestate.edu/poli.....atness.pdf

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Trump has not caused nearly the damage Baby Bush did.

  • ||

    Peace between the Koreas and Ethiopia-Eritrea is twice what Obama could achieve.

    But Trump sucks. Yeah-k. Those historians should hand in their cards.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Which is still a fraction of what aobama did right? Since you're so non partisan.

  • ||

    FTA: Scholars were asked to rate Donald Trump on his presidency overall, legislative accomplishments, foreign policy leadership, embodying institutional norms, and communicating with the public.

    "Embodying institutional norms"?? Ugh

  • Rebel Scum||

    His first term is not even up. How can they be ranking him on anything? And you know as well as I do that those rankings are horseshit. With a couple exceptions, they always put the activist president's that expand the power of the executive and government as a whole above the ones that either simply do the job of office or reduce the power of the executive and of the government.

  • sarcasmic||

    The Trump administration says it "has complied with the first part of a court order to return the nearly 3,000 migrant children separated from their parents in recent months," NPR reports.

    Trumpistas have a sad.

  • Azathoth!!||

    Why would they be sad? Now they can be deported together.

  • ||

    "Our increasingly paranoid national discourse on "Russian influence""

    What's this 'our' stuff?

    Only one side has lost its marbles over it.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    An update on the World Health Organization's alleged inclusion of sex addiction and gaming addiction as mental disorders.

    How can anything so fun be a disease???

  • sarcasmic||

    Puritans don't approve of fun.

  • Citizen X||

    "What I am telling you is I and the other men and women of the FBI, every day take our personal beliefs, and set those aside in vigorous pursuit of the truth—wherever it lies, whatever it is," said Strzok.

    "And I don't believe you," responded Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas).

    Damn.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Asians have displaced blacks "as the most economically divided group in the U.S.," according to a new study from Pew Research.

    The Asians always were best at division.

  • sarcasmic||

    Lacist!

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    Ah, so funny

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    Ah, so funny

  • Bubba Jones||

    Define "Asian."

  • ||

    The Asians always were best at division.

    You've gotta have a paycheck before it can be economically divided.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    We're losing tens of millions of dollars per year minting U.S. pennies.

    Still cheaper than fuses.

  • Don't look at me.||

    Only the government could run a business so badly as to not turn a profit manufacturing money.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    The practical limit on inflation should be the point at which you can no longer mint coins without losing money.

    Lead is cheap. Let's make pennies out of lead.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    My penny jar is heavy enough as it is. I am not lugging a bag of lead to Starbucks.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Woodchucks #Resist Paul Ryan.

    Groundhogs are worse than Antifa.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    It saw it's shadow. 6 more years of Republican control of Congress.

  • Citizen X||

    "An emerging literature on the ethics of attention seeks to...create ethical guidelines for technology designers, primarily those whose business model is based on advertising" and "suggests that attention-grabbing intrusions can be unethical," especially "when systematic distractions infringe on individual freedom and agency," notes Slupska.

    Babies, territorial dogs, and women jogging in sports bras when i'm driving home now considered unethical.

  • Shirley Knott||

    Great. Now the bio-ethics folk have someone as bad as they are.
    The whole point of marketing is to grab your attention.
    As long as it doesn't violate individual agency, it's ethical enough to be left alone.
    "Oh noes, the televangelists got her to send my inheritance to fund their theme park!"
    The distasteful, the inappropriate, isn't necessarily unethical.
    Tacky is not evil, it's just tacky.

  • Bubba Jones||

    What about freemium game apps?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...if funding online advertisements counts as unacceptable foreign meddling, why doesn't funding radio stations like Radio Free Europe (as Russia Today points out)?

    I have to admit, at the time the first thought that hit me was, "How can this even be an issue in a free society?" How very stupid I can be.

  • Conchfritters||

    "I know it looks like there was bias, but there wasn't - you're just going to have to trust me on that. Pretend the text messages aren't real!"

    -Pete

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...in one message, assuring colleague and romantic partner Lisa Page that "we'll stop" Trump from becoming president.

    So suddenly white knighting yourself into a lady's bed is illegal?

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    lol

  • Jerryskids||

    "An emerging literature on the ethics of attention seeks to...create ethical guidelines for technology designers, primarily those whose business model is based on advertising" and "suggests that attention-grabbing intrusions can be unethical," especially "when systematic distractions infringe on individual freedom and agency," notes Slupska. She believes these concerns present "a useful framework for understanding disruptive and confusing phenomena in modern politics," such as fears over "election-hacking."

    No, dumbass, you gotta say "For the chiiiiiildren".

    These parents have no idea that lurking behind their kids' screens and phones are a multitude of psychologists, neuroscientists, and social science experts who use their knowledge of psychological vulnerabilities to devise products that capture kids' attention for the sake of industry profit. What these parents and most of the world have yet to grasp is that psychology — a discipline that we associate with healing — is now being used as a weapon against children.

  • Echo Chamber||

    so many words for 'buyer beware'

  • Citizen X||

    Real Talk: if you're letting your kids have unsupervised access to the internet before they're old enough to understand the dangers and responsibilities of such, you're not a very responsible parent.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Like Hank Hill forcing Bobby to smoke cigarettes to teach him a lesson, making your kids go through BUCS's browsing history to teach them the dangers of the Internet will be sure to backfire.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Few people of any age are ready for the romance and sensuality of my browsing history.

  • ||

    What these parents and most of the world have yet to grasp is that psychology — a discipline that we associate with healing — is now being used as a weapon against children.

    I've seen the benefits of hard working psychologists, neurologists, and social science at work preventing mass shootings, inner-city violence, suicide, drug overdoses, ADHD, autism, racial equality, and gender equality and, I gotta say, my money's on the kids.

  • Rhywun||

    attention-grabbing intrusions can be unethical

    Complete hooey that attempts to nullify individual agency. And to justify censorship.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    ENB, where is the pic of the Trump Baby Balloon?

    https://goo.gl/EPF6ve

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    CAMBERLEY, England — Bringing chaos with him as he moves across Europe, President Donald Trump's pomp-filled welcome to Britain was overshadowed Friday by an explosive interview in which he blasted Prime Minister Theresa May, blamed London's mayor for terror attacks against the city and argued that Europe was "losing its culture" because of immigration.

    Trump told The Sun newspaper on Thursday — in an interview that was published as he was feted by May at an opulent welcome dinner at a country palace — that he felt unwelcome in London because of protests, including the flying of a giant balloon over Parliament on Friday that depicts him as an angry diaper-wearing baby.

  • Sevo||

    "...including the flying of a giant balloon over Parliament on Friday that depicts him as an angry diaper-wearing baby...."

    So they have scumbags there as pathetic as you? Imagine my surprise.

  • Don't look at me.||

    What kind of people have the time for such nonsense?

  • Sevo||

    Those who get very long vacations paid by the government which can do so since it free-loads on others for defense.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Eventually, scum like PB amd Tony will be,Ive they can beat us down and attempt something in the direction of a civil war. I am so looking forward to showing them how wrong they really are.

  • Conchfritters||

    What I am telling you is I and the other men and women of the FBI, every day take our personal beliefs, and set those aside in vigorous pursuit of the truth—wherever it lies, whatever it is.

    "Except the FBI hair analysis lab for capital murder cases, because that has been a shit show for decades, amiright?!"

    - Pete

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Drumpf and his supporters are attacking the integrity of the FBI? That's exactly what guilty people do — try to discredit the investigation itself. It won't work though.

    #TrumpRussia
    #StrzokDidNothingWrong

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    #StillWithHim
    #InternsToo

  • Sevo||

    #Cigars
    Is that one OK?

  • Conchfritters||

    Dude, that was way back in the 1990s. Literally 100 years ago.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Needs another word. One word hashtags are boring and don't show enough outrage.

  • Curt||

    "What I am telling you is I and the other men and women of the FBI, every day take our personal beliefs, and set those aside in vigorous pursuit of the truth—wherever it lies, whatever it is," said Strzok.

    "And I don't believe you," responded Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas).

    ...

    If only politicians were capable of applying that kind of skepticism to real law enforcement instead of just political hacks like this guy.

  • Longtobefree||

    No pennies, no sales tax. End of discussion.

    "If a state interferes with another state's politics, is it wrong? On what grounds?"

    If posting obvious bullshit to social media is interfering, our electoral process is too weak.

    On the other hand, using US tax dollars to (try to) help defeat a politician in a foreign country is/should be criminal.
    Washington Times: The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year's Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
    NYPost: Hoping to force Israel to help him justify an unearned Nobel, Obama tried and failed to defeat Bibi in two Israeli elections, in 2009 and again in 2015 — sending to Israel a battery of political consultants, pollsters, funds, you name it. A congressional inquiry over the summer found that the Obama administration spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to boost an anti-Bibi campaign in Israel run by a former Obama campaign staffer.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    If posting obvious bullshit to social media is interfering, our voters are too weak.

  • ||

    If posting obvious bullshit to social media is interfering, our electoral process is too weak.

    It's a self-fulfilling prophesy (or a self-licking ice cream cone). Obvious bullshit? There's none around here because we'd know it when we see it!

  • Shirley Knott||

    "On the other hand, using US tax dollars to (try to) help defeat a politician in a foreign country is/should be criminal."
    I can't wait for the trials of all the Radio Free Europe folks.
    And the Vietnam veterans.
    Etc.

    Seriously.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Wait a minute. He used government funding to subsidize the work of a former campaign staffer?

    LOL

  • SRVolunteer||

    No pennies, no sales tax. End of discussion.

    I guess I need more discussion. What are you talking about?

  • Rhywun||

    "Economically divided". That's a new one. Americans used to celebrate the ability to become successful; now we brand it with negative words like "inequality" and "division". Disgusting.

  • Echo Chamber||

    I learned that from Charles Barkley yesterday: the battle is not between Team Red and Team Blue, it's between the rich and the poor.
    I wasn't aware that his thought leadership extended beyond picking NCAA tournament games

  • Rhywun||

    Good thing he probably has an army of armed guards to protect him from "the poor".

    Idiots like him have so successfully convinced "the poor" that there is no hope for them to advance that a lot of them just resign themselves to it, kick back, and expect the rest of us to give them everything for free.

  • JWatts||

    "Woodchucks #Resist Paul Ryan."

    That's an awesome headline ENB!

  • Sevo||

    "What I am telling you is I and the other men and women of the FBI, every day take our personal beliefs, and set those aside in vigorous pursuit of the truth—wherever it lies, whatever it is," said Strzok.

    IF this were true, we're wasting a lot of money vetting those who might sit on a jury.

  • lap83||

    That strikes me as a bizarre thing to say. People who actually want the truth don't have to set aside their beliefs to look for it. Is that what he imagines an honest person would say?

  • Citizen X||

    He's an FBI careerist. He's never met an honest person in his life, including in the mirror.

  • JBSparks||

    Such righteous indignation from a man whose oath has proven worthless.

  • JBSparks||

    Such righteous indignation from a man whose oath has proven worthless.

  • JBSparks||

    Such righteous indignation from a man whose oath has proven worthless.

  • Sevo||

    Ah, it good but only worth two...

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    "The rulebook for the global economy of the future is being written right now," Ryan said. "The question is whether the United States will be holding the pen."

    Unfortunately, all statists believe this, including a lot of commenters here. The reality is that politicians no more control economics than they control physics; the real rulebook for all economies is beyond their grasp, and all they can do is make it route around their inefficiencies and distortions. As Thomas Sowell said,

    The first lesson of economics is scarcity: there is never enough of anything to fully satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.
  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    I think the USSR, cuba, Venezuela, etc. prove that you can control economies--invariably for the worse.

  • Shirley Knott||

    Fucking up is not really exerting control.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    But it is "fundamental transformation."

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Kellen Winslow Jr. charged with raping an unconscious 17 year old.

    Another real prize in the world of football.

  • ||

    Kneel harder!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    To be fair, the event supposedly happened 15 years ago and he was 19 and she was 17.

    Rape is rape but how are you supposed to defend yourself after 15 years and when the modern hack media considers all men rapists all the time.

  • Bubba Jones||

    In college I would sometimes pass out during sex.

    Was that a withdrawal of consent? Cause my gf didn't seem to think so.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Let us know in 15 years, especially if you think you can get a big settlement because she's rich.

    This trend is really suspicious and I tend to think many of these "sexual assault" cases decades later are a scam.

  • Happy Chandler||

    I think it doesn't say good things about your girlfriend. That boring?

  • Shirley Knott||

    If your team isn't winning, it's because they haven't hired enough thugs,m rapists, and murderers.

  • albo||

    We're losing tens of millions of dollars per year minting U.S. pennies

    Rise from the dead, Teddy Roosevelt, and destroy the zinc trust!

    We need to get rid of the penny and the dollar bill. We replace the bill with a dollar coin and start widely circulating $2 bills. But congress and americans don't want change.

  • Don't look at me.||

    We have bigger fish to fry. 10's of millions is no doubt spent on toilet paper for the pentagon.

  • Rhywun||

    Change is so worthless I've been tossing it in cans and jars for a couple decades. I can probably buy a car with it now.

  • Shirley Knott||

    Then it's not really worthless, is it?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""We're losing tens of millions of dollars per year minting U.S. pennies""

    Here's a novel idea. Mint them every five years.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Hate crime charges filed against man caught on video confronting woman over Puerto Rico shirt
    Jerk in Chicago area charged with Hate Crimes

    This jerk was charged with assault and now hate crimes. The media approves of both because confronting people in a jerky way about not being American enough and being from Puerto Rico is ILLEGAL.

    Since it does not appear to be any violence nor threats by the jerky man, it would seem that the 1st Amendment covers his speech that local Chicago authorities dont like. The media even went after some park police for not bashing this guy's face in for speaking to a Puerto Rican.

    I smell a lawsuit.

  • Rhywun||

    He better hope he can win a lawsuit, given how unlikely it is he will ever be able to find work again.

  • jcw||

    SCOTUS should file an injunction on puerto rico shirts.

  • jcw||

    They should file this case in SCOTUS. Then the court should issue an injunction on wearing puerto rico shirts, or yelling at people who puerto rico shirts. Not sure which.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    jcw is still very bitter about being wrong about SCOTUS original jurisdiction.

  • ||

    The media approves of both because confronting people in a jerky way about not being American enough and being from Puerto Rico is ILLEGAL.

    For reference, 38 people were murdered in Chicago since this drunkard *nearly* assaulted this woman.

    I've got no love lost for the cop who should lose his job for not running drunks out of the park for permitholders, but the idea that this is evidence of some massive epidemic of racism (as opposed to an epidemic of public parks being filled with drunks) is laughably absurd.

    Hilariously, I bet he could get out of the whole thing by claiming to be upset about the loss to Croatia.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Since you brought the very real violence in Chicago (that is dragging up nationwide violence stats) stuff like this does allow the media to avoid real news like 252 people murdered in Chicago so far in 2018.

  • Michael Cook||

    The integrity, honor, chastity, and personal hygiene of the entire FBI are not being impugned by Republicans in Congress who are trying to get to the heart of the most brazen attempt at open sedition in the USA since hot-headed Southerners opened fire on Fort Sumter. So lefties please stop trying to throw that cover-up mud against the wall to see if it sticks and covers-up. It does not.

    A conspiracy theory is not a conspiracy theory when there are real people of real consequence at a very high level leaving all sorts of real evidence all around that they exactly intend to do a high crime that exactly meets the legal definition of sedition--to do deliberate and significant harm to an elected branch of our government.

    The unusual characteristic of conspirator Strzok is the arrogance that oozes from every pore. A true believer to the core, he thinks that the Deep State bureaucratic culture composed of cronies and bosses that he flourished in (folks like Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe, Wray, the Ohrs, Samantha Powers, Sally Yates, Clapper, the lot of them, all empowered by power itself and drunk on it.) well, Strzok believes that still-embedded leftist culture can get away with anything.

    Sniff the air, Strzok you smug old boy. Can you smell the unwashed Trump yahoos coming for you?

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    It really is sickening that Deep State dirtbags like Strzok and his buddy John Brennan can get away with blatantly committing perjury and knowing nothing major will happen to them. If you or I did that our lives would be permanently ruined.

  • Tony||

    Trump conspired with Russia to steal the election.

    I don't care how washed you are. Actually I do, go fucking take a bath you inbred cunt.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""Trump conspired with Russia to steal the election."'

    There is still no proof of this. There are some indictments on Russians paying for ads on facebook, which does not equate to theft of the election. And Mueller is playing some class A bullshit on the Russians that pled not guilty, by trying to deny them discovery.

  • Tony||

    Never mind then, Trump is a great president who's only doing every possible thing to stroke Putin's geopolitical shaft because it's 15-D chess.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""Never mind then, Trump is a great president ""

    If you say so.

  • DesigNate||

    You know you can think the investigation is bullshit and still not like him as a president right? Right?

  • Tony||

    You don't have any evidence that the investigation is bullshit. You don't even have Occam's Razor on your side.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Yes he does. You're the one claiming a vast conspiracy with no evidence. In fact the only evidence of any wrongdoing implicates team blue.

  • Tony||

    That's gotta hurt, making this post like right as the new indictments were coming down. Ouch man.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Yet none of them are connected to Trump.

    Of course, you're a lying little bitch

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    You mean like arming ukraine, opposing gas piepelines into germany creating dependence, advocating for europeans to pay for their defence, and opening up the US to hydrocarbon production? That kind of stroking?

    Literally every criticism you have about trump sucking up to putin applies only to your hero, barry. I wonder how many pages of DSM V apply to your condition.

  • Michael Cook||

    the Hillary Clinton campaign and their Christopher Steele ally were the ones colluding with Russians to steal the elections. We can go there. We can prove it.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    She cheated in the primary, why not the general election too.

  • IceTrey||

    So it was the Russians who kept Clinton from campaigning in Wisconsin?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    I read that her internal polling showed her numbers going down after each event in some of the battleground states.

    She really is just awful.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    #ibelieve!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Tony really believes this. Haha.

    All those states and all those America voters were duped. Actually, Democrat voters are dupes.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Here's what Tony doesn't believe, but the FBI reiterated this week.

    "There's also no allegation as yet that any attempts to meddle with the election systems affected the outcome of the presidential vote."

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    So Strzok was the one who change the report from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." He blamed it on Career lawyers, but it was done with his login. So either someone stole his password and he didn't report that. Gave someone his password, not likely. Or actually did it himself. Then he claimed it would have be done because not doing so would have left Hillary open to prosecution.

    So, going with Strzok statement of not knowing who did it. Why not just change the report back to the original finding of grossly negligent.

  • Tony||

    Republican gasbags reduced to whining about Strzok's "smirk." This was quite something to behold. All in an attempt to look betesticled for 5 seconds on Thursday night Hannity.

    Why are you fuckstains doing this to my country? Just... why?

  • Citizen X||

    Congressional Assholes Call Deep State Asshole "Asshole"; Asshole in OK Hardest Hit, For Some Reason

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    This whole thing was grandstanding by both sides. Nearly every time someone is brought in for questioning by Congress it amounts to nothing more than grandstanding. Why are you so upset about this one?

    All this and the whole #Russia investigation does is distract the masses from the issues that matter.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    "my country?"

    You didn't build that...

    It takes a village...

    [insert other socialist talking points here]

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    *Exterior shot of Tony standing alone in an Oklahoma field. Naked, and covering his shivering body with the tattered remains of an American Flag*

    Tony: (whispers) cousin fuckers...

  • loveconstitution1789||

    You jest but there are days he cannot make it on to Reason because of those breaks with reality.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    "Why are you fuckstains doing this to my country? Just... why?"

    There's your first mistake bitch. This isn't your country. It's mine. It does not and never will belong to little communist douchebags like you.

  • Michael Cook||

    Tony, the election of 2016 was between a teetotaler, priapic, outsider, billionaire genius who was never socially housebroken and a woman who had soared from being "broke" on leaving the White House to running the State Depart. in such a way that the Clinton Foundation could swell by hundreds of millions in assets and become a formidable bastion of old Clinton campaign warriors for a future White House run.

    Hillary saw that the solution was to conflate her private and public business on a throwaway server that would be immune from official records acts and pesky FIFA requests. Hillary didn't care about national security concerns because she just didn't care.

    People like Obama, oligarchs, and Russian entities chatting her up didn't care either. They used fake names, like Huma Abedin's husband former Congressman Weiner (Carlos Danger!) and yes, State Dept. secrets were bouncing around these channels. Also, Hillary contrasts with Trump in that she does drink, maybe to the point of falling down.

    Yet more interestingly, when what appears to be an official Russian document indicating collusion between Hillary allies and Russians, the FBI declares it a forgery and does no follow-up whatsoever. Any rumor relating to Trump gets full-blown, all-out, never-stop investigation.

    Comey, Strzok, Mueller. The tip of the spear of the SEDITION.

  • Tony||

    You don't think all those bullshit conspiracy theories, even if they weren't bullshit, seem a bit small potatoes compared to the real shit going down now with Trump? Or the scandals that have followed him his entire career?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Oh Tony, dont you think more corrupt people than you would have been able to take down Trump with something besides fever dreams, if there was something to take down Trump?

    Trump is going down as one of the best presidents in over 100 years. You might as well accept it now.

    Trump's better than: Obama, Booosh, Clinton, Bush, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, JFK, Truman, FDR, Wilson....

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    You must really like Hoover, Coolidge, and Harding?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I got bored listing all the crappy presidents.

  • perlchpr||

    Coolidge, yes.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    No, I think real evidence of corruption and abuse of power is much more serious than your febrile delusions about a manchurian candidate.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Speaking of corruption, has anyone seen Chappaquiddick yet?

    Even if they put blush on that Kennedy hog to make that family look better, those Kennedys were some crooked motherfuckers.

    I am glad the Kennedy, Bush, and Clinton family dynasties died off.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Don't be surprised if there is a last gasp to push Hilary for 2020, and I'm pretty sure they're trying carpetbag Chelsea Hubble into a house seat somewhere.

  • mulch||

    A police story with a happy ending.

    KS State Trooper Sentenced for Excessive Force

  • Juice||

    That's awesome. And prison, no less. Need to see much more of this.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Doesn't the Russia Investigation, a now-popular DNC narrative discredit itself?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Can't be rude to the recent wedding guests.

  • Michael Cook||

    Just remembered the best line about Hillary, from Gen. Colin Powell: "She fu--ks up everything she touches."

    Don't get me wrong on the seriousness of anything that Russia is up to. I speak Russian and have been to Eastern Ukraine and the gas fields around Mariupol. The way business is done there is both extremely complex and brutally simple. Death can come from a sniper bullet at night at 700 meters or from those old standbys ricin, Novichok, or polonium.

    The problem with European leftists like Merkel and American leftists like all Democrats is that they only want to pretend to be fiercely anti-Putin because that is the anti-Trump narrative of the moment. The deeper reality is that the Clintons and many Obama allies wanted crony deals with Russian entities in the worst way and constantly lobbied for such arrangements. Everything any Trump associate convicted by the Mueller investigation was charged with (after micro-micro anal exams) could have been charged against Democrats of the same era, but the team of Democrat partisans headed by Robert Mueller would never think of looking at a Democrat.

    If, by accident, they did, their very next thought would of course be an automatic exoneration.

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