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Students at Lewis and Clark College Shouted Down Christina Hoff Sommers: ‘We Choose to Protest Male Supremacy’

"Microaggressions are real. The gender wage gap is real."

SommersScreenshot via Andy Ngo / TwitterStudent-activists at Lewis and Clark College in Portland, Oregon, made good on their threat to disrupt a Christina Hoff Sommers event at the Law School yesterday afternoon.

Sign-wielding protesters rushed to the front of the classroom where Sommers was attempting to speak and drowned her out. The leader, a woman wearing a jacket that said "stay woke" on the back, shouted "mic check." The gathered protesters then repeated the line. And so it went, with the crowd echoing the leader's claims:

"Mic check. We choose. To protest. Male supremacy. Not give it. A platform. Christina Sommers. Has repeatedly. Delegitimized. The suffering of women. Worldwide. We believe. Our siblings. And our comrades. Women are not. Liars with victim mentalities. Rape culture is not a myth. Microaggressions are real. The gender wage gap is real."

There's actually considerable disagreement, even within mainstream circles, about whether microaggressions and the gender wage gap are real, despite the student-protesters' cultish protestations to the contrary. But these activists' minds were already made up, well in advance of Sommers's appearance at Lewis and Clark. A day earlier, the Portland National Lawyers Guild, Minority Law Students Association, Black Law Students Association, Women's Law Caucus, Immigration Student Group, Jewish Law Society, Latino Law Society, OutLaw, and Lewis & Clark Young Democratic Socialists of America issued a joint-statement condemning the Federalist Society for inviting Sommers.

They described Sommers as a "known fascist." (If you're not with antifa, you must be with the fascists, I guess.) They said that "because of the way systemic oppression manifests, we know those who live at intersections of oppression—cis and trans women of color, genderqueer and gender non-conforming women of color—bear the brunt of this attempt to legitimize gendered violence." They said "we now understand how language works, and how it can be used to reproduce the systems of oppression." This view leaves no room for free speech: all perspective that clash with those of the activists are inherently violent and oppressive, and thus unfit for public utterance.

Sommers was able to partly deliver her remarks, but she so incensed the crowd that a dean of diversity approached the podium and asked her to quickly wrap things up and progress to Q and A. The journalist Andy Ngo recorded the constant interruptions—his video footage will remind readers of the Sommers shut downs of years past.

"The chaos inside the lecture hall at Lewis & Clark Law School was only part of the problem," wrote Sommers on Twitter. "Protesters outside were chanting loudly… most of the students, conservatives & progressives, were civil. A noisy minority was willing to impose its will on everyone else."

This seems to be true in most campus censorship incidents I've covered. Many students want to listen to the speaker and ask questions at the appropriate time. A small cabal of illiberal activists are resolutely opposed to any speech that offends them, on grounds that said speech is itself a form of violence against marginalized people.

Photo Credit: Screenshot via Andy Ngo

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  • John C. Randolph||

    Snivelling is real. Butthurt is real. Parents who fail utterly to teach the rudiments of civilized behavior to their emotionally stunted offspring are real.

    -jcr

  • The Laissez-Ferret||

    Exactly. I don't know what's worse the little brat's behavior or the fact that the adults in the room, most of whom are from our generation or older let them have their way.

  • Libertarian||

    "A small cabal of illiberal activists are resolutely opposed to any speech that offends them, on grounds that said speech is itself a form of violence against marginalized people."

    Female students at Lewis and Clark may be a lot of things, but "marginalized" ain't one of them.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    The university itself is a microaggression against the People of the Vagina. Why is it not called Sacagawea and Lewis and Clark? After all, she lead them; the two males were just camp followers.

  • Teddy Pump||

    LOL!!!!!!

  • DiegoF||

    Everyone in the room is an adult, even if only a few acted like one. What is true is that Lewis and Clark has made a mockery of itself as an academic institution and the ideals it professes to be governed by. (If it were a public school it would have also violated the First Amendment rights of the student Federalist Society.) Ditto those ridiculous so-called "legal organizations" who are acting like they were all founded at the People's College of Law.

    This is why we need people like FIRE to act as consumer protection agencies to alert any kid who may be tempted to matriculate at Lewis and Clark. That "Dean of Diversity" should just sit in her office, collect her paycheck, and play with her dildo, like a good dean of diversity, instead of insisting on playing Real Dean dress-up and trying to actually run something. How did a Federalist Society talk concern her? Doesn't she have a sweet enough deal in life?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    FIRE? The outfit that issues a free pass to censorship, suppression of academic freedom, loyalty oaths, conduct codes, the teaching of nonsense, and the like on conservative-controlled campuses to flatter its right-wing donors?

  • DiegoF||

    Yes, FIRE; and I don't know what the fuck you are talking about with this nonsense. The FIRE collective does absolutely none of those things. "Suppression of academic freedom"? "Loyalty oaths"? Does that even sound like free-form English jazz to you? I know many do not find their perspective personally agreeable, but you should at least be clearheaded enough about them to avoid utter, objective lies and falsehood.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Most right-wingers, when attempting to criticize strong liberal-libertarian universities while appeasing the strident censors on conservative-controlled campuses, refer to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), a partisan hack shop.

    Carry on, clingers.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Based on the repetitive substance and hostile style of his comments, it seems likely the Reverend here is either a lazy parody or a medium-functioning autistic. Engage at your peril.

  • DiegoF||

    To the contrary, as he points out elsewhere here, his side is winning. If we don't make a proactive, positive stand against these people today, they will not be satisfied with this round of victims. Tomorrow it will be Django Bates!

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    If they didn't like repetition and hostility -- probably with an Asperger's diagnosis -- most of the faux libertarians who comment here would never visit this site.

    The right-wingers around here seem very fragile, mistaking brittleness for strength and bluster for substance. They are triggered easily and predictably. Mostly by reason, progress, tolerance, education, and science.

    Carry on, clingers.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Go back to The Federalist. We prefer higher quality trolling here.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Genuine libertarians would say much the same to most of the commenters.

  • block30||

    No.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    No we don't Unicorn. Let's not lie to ourselves.

  • Peter Schaeffer||

    RALK, Do you realize how dumb you sound? Larry Summers was kicked out of Harvard for invoke "science" to explain male / female differences. James Damore was fired for mentioning "science" to explain why more men than women worked at Google. The left (including you) hates science because science is about reality and reality isn't kind to left.

  • DarrenM||

    He does get a bit tedious.

  • Careless||

    He's the only account I had on ignore on WaPo.

  • ThomasD||

    Kirkland is a major fan of the big lie technique.

    Fitting.

  • Buddy Bizarre||

    You pop out of your progressive echo chamber to snark without a shred of evidence. Sad...

  • Eidde||

    The Rev. giving his own creative gloss on FIRE's position concerning private colleges:

    "Unlike many schools that openly declare a sectarian mission, most secular, liberal arts institutions still present themselves to the public as diverse institutions dedicated to a free exchange of ideas. They should be held to that standard. Indeed, the vulnerability of college administrators at such liberal arts institutions lies precisely in the gulf between their public self-presentation (in which they claim to support academic freedom, free speech, and the protection of individual conscience) and their practice (which all too often shows a flagrant disregard of such values). If a private college admitted in its catalogue that it was devoted to a particular established orthodoxy, and that it would assign rights unequally, it would have considerably more leeway to impose its views on the students who gave their informed consent by attending."

  • DiegoF||

    "The Rev" (Mike Hihn)'s point notwithstanding, I think they have one of the most well-developed senses of mission. (The ACLU could learn a thing or two.) For public schools (other than service academies), they are defending Constitutional rights. For private, they are acting as a consumer protection agency to make sure "you get what it says on the tin." Nearly all private schools today profess loyalty to academic freedom, even when their actions (and sometimes the fine print) demonstrates anything but. A few do not; they openly declare any freedom to be constrained by loyalty to Christian or Jewish orthodoxy or whatever. As indicated in the link, they mostly do not even bother rating or reporting on those and whether they live up to their own claims--so far are those claims from the tradition of liberal inquiry.

  • Eidde||

    And to be fair to the sectarian institutions which openly and avowedly enforce orthodoxy, I'm going to guess that the student handbook provides that it is college authorities which will do the orthodoxy-enforcing.

    I'd be surprised if *any* college says in its handbook "your right to hear a duly-invited speaker is subject to veto by mobs of militantly orthodox students."

  • Eidde||

    "Arthur Kirkland" is the avatar of a guy who was a regular at Volokh, and he seems to bringing his special brand of left-wing lovingkindness to H&R.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    I had long sensed that this site was a hive for socially awkward, disaffected, right-wing authoritarians . . but when Prof. Volokh decided this site was good enough for his brand of libertarianism, I figured it would be hospitable to my libertarianism, too.

  • Finrod||

    You're about as libertarian as Stalin, fuckwit leftist troll. Go die in a fire.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    If I were interested in validation from half-educated, bigoted goobers, I never would have left a yahoo town on the day of high school graduation, never to return.

    Your wingnut aspirations are dying every day in America, Finrod.

    Your betters have been cramming liberal-libertarian preferences down right-wing throats -- sideways, much of the time -- throughout our lifetimes. American progress has doomed conservative aspirations.

    I understand why wingnuts are so cranky. I don't get how they expect things to get better for conservatives as our electorate becomes less rural, less intolerant, less religous, less white, and less backward.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    If I were interested in validation from half-educated, bigoted goobers, I never would have left a yahoo town on the day of high school graduation, never to return.

    So you settled with a bunch of half-educated urbanite bugmen instead.

    Someone who whines when his anecdotal experiences aren't shown to be the sole domain of humanity is hardly in a position to claim educational superiority on anything.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    I chose a modern, successful, educated community.

    I recognize that not every community or person is accomplished or properly educated. I understand this better than do most of my current neighbors -- who are generally unfamiliar with the level of dysfunction, ignorance, intolerance, and disaffection that afflicts a dwindling but important number of Americans -- because I was raised in a backwardness- and bigotry-infused town.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    I chose a modern, successful, educated community.

    Good thing they don't realize what an ignoramus you actually are.

    I recognize that not every community or person is accomplished or properly educated

    At least you're gaining some self-awareness.

    I was raised in a backwardness- and bigotry-infused town

    Hicklib confirmed.

  • damikesc||

    I chose a modern, successful, educated community.

    Ah, confusing "educated" for "intelligent". How adorable.

  • Careless||

    It was just a month or so ago that AK was telling us about the moral and academic superiority of a bunch of third and fourth rate directional state schools and Christian schools in Texas because they had talked about banning hate speech. He's really quite something

  • ThomasD||

    Don't kid yourself, L&C has been a mockery of an academic institution for a long time.

  • Teddy Pump||

    I do not understand why these colleges never call the police & report these SJW idiots for disturbing the peace & disorderly conduct & have them arrested!!...Maybe a night without their Organic Soy Milk & Fair Trade Cookies will straighten them out?

  • Finrod||

    Do you think the police would actually come and arrest them?

  • Teddy Pump||

    Fair point!....How could I forget Berkely & the police watching while Antifa & BLM destroy the place & police watching a riot in Charlottesville & doing zippo!.....I guess it would depend on the town....At least they can order them to leave!

  • ThomasD||

    It might be because the poweres that be - ie. the administration - are perfectly fine with the silencing of some voices.

    And my use of 'might' is purely rhetorical. The absence of any corrective efforts or apologies from the colege being further evidence of their complicity.

  • James Pollock||

    Why, exactly, do you think the college owes any "corrective efforts" or "apologies"?

    The Federalist Society (not the college) invited this speaker, and other students and/or activists (not the college) disrupted the event.
    How does the college somehow owe someone "corrective efforts", whatever that may be?

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    Boy, you are a special kind of stupid, aren'tcha?

  • James Pollock||

    I only asked one question, and you forgot to answer it. From this, you've developed the theory that *I'M* stupid?

  • Careless||

    Yes, you asked a very stupid question.

  • James Pollock||

    So... you're unable to answer a very stupid question?

    Here, let's try another approach.
    YOU had as much to do with this event as did the law school. Where's your apology/corrective efforts?

  • James Pollock||

    "I don't know what's worse the little brat's behavior or the fact that the adults in the room, most of whom are from our generation or older let them have their way."

    I hate to tell you this (not really), but the students at the Northwest College of Law are older than you think, with the average age of the "little brat's" over 30.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    What isn't real enough are the good things led fashioned beating these dirty hippie 'activists' should be receiving for their violet impertinence. Hippie trash must be shown their place........at the receiving end of a truncheon. Anything less and well, look where we are now.

    Make America great again, beat the crap out of at least one dirty hippie every day.

  • Drave Robber||

    Herostratus was real. Or maybe not. I've heard it was an invented name publicized instead of the actual perpetrator.

  • Rebel Scum||

    "Microaggressions are real. The gender wage gap is real."

    Neither of these statements is true.

    male supremacy

    I'm going to need a definition here. Men are better at some things, women are better at others.

  • Cy||

    Women control over 80% of domestic household spending... can we close that gap?

  • albo||

    They also control 100 percent of the cooter. That's the real problem.

  • DiegoF||

    Why do you think they call them "gay"? They have solved this problem.

  • ThomasD||

    The problem is control of the cooter. I fail to see how male homosexuality solves that problem.

  • ThomasD||

    (If the problem were merely one of some sort of sexual gratification then the immediate solution is always close at hand.)

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    The Iron Law of Supply and Demand.

    If there is no demand, there is no problem.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    What does control mean in this case?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Sure Microaggressions are real. They are a defined thing, that do occur, and can be documented. The debate shouldn't be over whether they exist, but do they actually matter and what can be done about them.

    Microaggressions have just become another cudgel, but at their original existence were basically a mindfulness exercise. They told you to think a little more about what you were saying, so as to not say rude things unintentionally. The inherent unintentional nature of microaggressions (if they were meant to be offensive then it's just being an asshole) means that shitting down people's throats for doing them is not a good way to engender change or camaraderie.

  • Finrod||

    Why is it that every single cretin that whines about microaggressions then proceeds to commit macroaggressions against those they think has 'harmed' them?

    Fucking entitled pricks.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Is a microagrression when we get annoyed? If so, I'm microaggressed by idiots throughout my day.

  • NM Dave||

    There you go again, relying on facts and truth instead of hate and rhetoric. No one will listen to you in today's America.

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    Andrew Sullivan has recently observed that the intolerant university environment is coming to a community, neighborhood, and place of employment near you.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    I've got a sturdy truncheon for the dirty hippies that create those environments.

  • James Pollock||

    If it lasts more than 4 hours, call a physician.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    Microaggressions are real! We make a big stink about them! We're also irony-impaired!

  • creech||

    What would happen to students from a college Y.A.L. chapter who barged into a Marxist professor's class and did the same thing? Exactly.

  • Paloma||

    That would be prima facie evidence that they are Hitler inspired white supremacist terrorists.

  • kV||

    I actually kind of like the "77 cents on the dollar" rhetoric. Quick and dirty tool for identifying disingenuous pricks and useful idiots.

  • Juice||

    97% concensus!

  • Microaggressor||

    Do they believe men and women should be paid the same, even though they do different work? Wouldn't that just be gender communism?

  • Rhywun||

    gender communism

    You say that like they're not all for it.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Marxists believe that all labor is equal, so yes, they do believe that.

  • Eidde||

    Exception: The work of elite Party members is extra special and should be rewarded with extra perks.

  • cc2||

    They believe that students should be paid for protesting, that barristas should make the same as engineers, that work is oppression, that math is the patriarchy. Does that clarify it?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Sounds like a bunch of parasites that ultimately need to learn how the real world works, or end up face down in landfills.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    I can live with that.

  • Don Nico||

    Barristas should certainly be paid as well as professors of gender studies

  • Rich||

    So, is this shouting-down stuff a macro aggression?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Christina Hoff Sommers would give the male protesters a 'boys will be boys' pass.

  • jph12||

    Oh so clever. You so rarely try new things, it's nice to see confirmation that your wit matches the morons in the video, not just your ideology.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Why so cranky, jph12?

    Emerging recognition that your right-wing preferences are shabby, or just acknowledgement that America's future will be shaped by those who choose reason, tolerance, education, science, and progress?

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    Yeah: we see a lot of this in the video under discussion, don't we?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Mostly we see it on the lists of best schools (liberal-libertarian) and on the lists of weakest schools (conservative).

    Avert your eyes if you prefer.

  • jph12||

    I'm just sorry the poor people at Reason are going to be subjected to your inane ramblings. If you had some creativity, some wit, it wouldn't be so bad. Instead it's just the same drivel, over and over again.

    Carry on, clinger.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    What's your definition of liberal-libertarian?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    A liberal with libertarian leanings, or a libertarian with liberal leanings. Generally with a strident objection to right-wing authoritarianism. Often with a particular disdain for conservatives masquerading in unconvincing libertarian drag.

  • Jujucat||

    Reality may catch up with the Rev someday.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    It's always charming when gullible wingnuts set aside their taste for childish superstition long enough to castigate reason-based people about "reality."

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Hihn off his meds or hihn on his meds, which is worse? The exercise is left to the reader.

  • Careless||

    Kirkland has been in Volokh threads since at least Obama's first term. Also, is Hihn ever on his meds?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    "acknowledgement that America's future will be shaped by those who choose reason, tolerance, education, science, and progress?"

    In other words, not shaped by your ilk. Who are bigoted, ignorant, weak, shrill, stupid, anti science gibbering morons who belong in landfills. Don't worry though, you will be enshrined in history. As a footnote, of regrettable tings to be avoided.

    If you don't like that, then please, let's have that dirty, nasty civil war that I know the rest of us will win. You will be wiped off the map.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Goobers have lost on dozens of issues in America, for as long as we have been alive, and are positioned to continue to lose for as far as can be reasonably predicted.

    A sensible right-wing authoritarian would be accustomed to losing by now. You guys really should be better at it.

  • Peter Schaeffer||

    RALK,

    Over the last 30-40 years...

    Inequality has soared. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The minimum wage has plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Corporate profits as a share of GDP have soared and wages have plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Male LFP has crashed. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The trade deficit has exploded. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.

    Of course, men can now use women's bathrooms... So life is great... Proud of that Rev? You probably are

  • buybuydandavis||

    "So, is this shouting-down stuff a macro aggression?"

    Yes, actually. A criminal misdemeanor in Oregon, and most states. Disrupting lawful assemblies is generally illegal.

    Not that the legal authorities in our banana republic are that keen on enforcing laws with actual victims, particularly when those victims are run of the mill law abiding citizens, and the criminals are organized political gangs.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    A lot of,it carries over into assault. Generally screaming in someone's ear with a bullhorn in a threatening manner is misdemeanor assault in most jurisdictions. Personally though, I would prefer to just take the gloves off and deal with these shitbirds on the spot. Teaching them a valuable lesson.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    It's called "the full La Voy."

    Be my guest, goober.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It's called "the full La Voy."

    Be my guest, goober

    Dangerhairs and soyboys are hardly of the same caliber as FBI agents.

  • Rebel Scum||

    "Mic check. We choose. To protest. Male supremacy. Not give it. A platform. Christina Sommers. Has repeatedly. Delegitimized. The suffering of women. Worldwide. We believe. Our siblings. And our comrades. Women are not. Liars with victim mentalities. Rape culture is not a myth.

    Yes yes, we know you are all basically communist agitators. And what a way to protest "male supremacy". Shout down a woman who is actually strong, independent and a real feminist. And delegitimized the suffering of women? There are parts of the wold where women are treated as second class citizens (or slaves...), but it's not in the US, hon. And CHS has a long history of speaking out against said places that do treat women as second class citizens (or slaves...).

  • croaker||

    Fire up the helicopters. And if campus cops can't maintain order it's time to federalize the national guard to replace them.

  • Brandybuck||

    Nah, just shut down the campus. Let the parents sort it out.

  • buybuydandavis||

    The Army needs to clear out the FBI and DOJ first.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    It is long past the time to bring back the McCarthy hearings. All these 'progressives' are, are communist subversives. Time to get rid of their Marxist professors (at least from schools that receive any federal funds), and start pulling aid from subversive students.

    If we don't do see thing bout these people, we are going to lose the country. If we haven't already.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    You lost. Some of you are too dumb to understand it.

  • Juice||

    Oh yeah. I forgot about mic check. Yeah, that needs to make a comeback. If someone has to keep repeating X IS REAL, then it's very likely that X isn't real.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Hey!

  • Nihil||

    Face it X, you're not real.

  • gormadoc||

    Fitting username is fitting.

  • Nihil||

    To be honest, I only took the handle because I used to be a fan of KMDFM and Nihil was the name of my favorite album.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Further evidence of Mikey's keen insight.

  • albo||

    *up spirit fingers*

  • Rhywun||

    So the "mic check" is a thing? Is that like fingersnaps or something? It's so hard to keep up with this stuff.

  • DiegoF||

    If someone has to keep repeating X IS REAL

    Microaggressions and the gender wage gap will never, ever be as real as Negroes in space.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    They said "we now understand how language works

    [citation needed]

  • Zeb||

    Well, they understand how Doublespeak works.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Glad to see how someone else called that out.

  • Juice||

    Gendered violence? Violence has a gender now?

  • Cy||

    These people have no idea what violence, hardship or struggle is. They're just spoiled children who no one will take responsibility for.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    These people have no idea what violence, hardship or struggle is

    Give them a baseball bat to the face and they'll figure it out soon enough.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Exactly . . . just ask LaVoy Finnicum.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Exactly . . . just ask LaVoy Finnicum

    Antifa-tards are FBI agents?

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    I also find it hilarious that you'd cite an instance where an unarmed man was killed by government authorities. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for giving up personal firearms.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    If LaVoy Finicum had not been a gun nut, he might be alive today.

  • Finrod||

    if you had a brain, you wouldn't be posting drivel like a fucking retard, slaver.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    I'm a fucking retard slaver.

    You're a half-educated, bigoted, disaffected, ineffectual, backwaters-inhabiting goober.

    I guess the tie-breaker has been and will continue to be that my policy preferences prevail and yours are crushed by the advance of American progress.

    I am content.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Arty, you would be better off face down, in a landfill. Just like every other progtard traitor.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Be nice, Elias, or I might instruct my children not to hire your family to mow the lawns, shovel the walkways, and detail the vehicles.

    Then how would you afford the handful of street pills needed to get through another shambling, miserable day in our depleted backwaters?

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    If LaVoy Finicum had not been a gun nut, he might be alive today.

    Lavoy Finicum wasn't armed, so your comment is as inaccurate as your assertion about the debate over world government was.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Lavoy Finicum wasn't armed

    That is an unpersuasive opinion, and therefore a silly unqualified assertion.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    That is an unpersuasive opinion, and therefore a silly unqualified assertion.

    No, it's a fact.

    For someone who brags about how educated they are, you seem to have a deep aversion to not having your opinions accepted as facts.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    The investigative report indicated he was carrying a pistol and extra ammunition, as I recall.

    Are you able to cite authority for your proposition, or are you just passing along something that was mumbled in the car between a militia meeting and a Klan meeting?

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    The investigative report indicated he was carrying a pistol and extra ammunition, as I recall.

    Which he never pulled from his coat before the agents shot him.

    Are you able to cite authority for your proposition, or are you just passing along something that was mumbled in the car between a militia meeting and a Klan meeting?

    I got it from the same place you did following your 60s bomber reunion.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Red Rocks' contributions might begin to make sense in a world lacking a meaning for "unarmed."

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Not sure that responding with violence is the winning strategy for an extremely peace endorsing philosophy such as libertarianism.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Neither is rolling over when a hostile entity impedes on your rights.

  • ThomasD||

    "extremely peace endorsing philosophy such as libertarianism"

    Wrong.

    The NAP is not 'extremely peace endorsing.' Peace is not a goal, peace is not a good, it has no inherent value, Peace is merely the natural byproduct of proper behavior.

    Improper behavior, behavior that demands an aggressive response, does not mean you have violated the NAP. It marks that you have abided by it.

  • colorblindkid||

    The vast majority of male violence is directed at other men. It is statistically more dangerous for a man to walk alone at night than a woman.

  • Eidde||

    That's because all those Scotsmen have short skirts.

  • cc2||

    Most male on male violence is competition, not due to walking alone at night.

  • DiegoF||

    These shitlords presume to know how violence chooses to identify xirself!

  • Libertarian||

    "We choose. To protest. Male supremacy."

    By shouting down Christina Hoff Sommers. A woman.

  • MasterThief||

    A woman who disagrees with much of modern feminism, the concept of rape culture, and patriarchy. She actually comes across as fairly measured in her criticisms but does solidly stand against the more ridiculous rhetoric of left wing agitators. Of course, your point is that they are painfully ironic and quick to call people some variation of "uncle tom" if they step outside of the far left talking points.

  • Trainer||

    You posted that wrong. It goes like this:

    We choose. To shout. Down Christina. Hoff Sommers. A woman.

    It just makes so much more sense when you break it up like that.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Actually, it's:

    We choose. Groupthink. Because we are individuals!

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Watching any right-winger complain about liberal "groupthink" -- when our strongest colleges and universities are liberal-libertarian institutions and conservative campuses are almost uniformly censorship-ridden, third-rate snowflake factories -- makes me grateful my children will get to compete economically with Trump supporters.

  • Finrod||

    Fuck off and die, slaver.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Continue to be an embittered bystander as America improves and your betters crush your right-wing aspirations, Finrod.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Commit suicide Arty. No one could ever love a worthless, loathsome piece of shit, such as yourself. Your family will be better off without you, and so will the world.

    So have some balls for once in your life and end it all. Deep down you know I'm right.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Get an education. Start with standard English, focusing on commas.

    Backwater religious schooling does not count.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Get an education. Start with standard English, focusing on commas.

    Captain Solipsism telling people to get an education after prissily whining when his anecdotal experiences were refuted.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    An educated person could distinguish refute from rebut.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    An educated person could distinguish refute from rebut.

    Which you hilariously failed to do in that very sentence.

    There are plenty of online dictionaries that can help you in this regard.

  • Peter Schaeffer||

    RALK,

    Over the last 30-40 years...

    Inequality has soared. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The minimum wage has plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Corporate profits as a share of GDP have soared and wages have plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Male LFP has crashed. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The trade deficit has exploded. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.

    Of course, men can now use women's bathrooms... So life is great... Proud of that Rev? You probably are

  • buybuydandavis||

    "By shouting down Christina Hoff Sommers. A woman."

    False consciousness
    Marxism is unfalsifiable by design

  • albo||

    When the students began singing "Which side are you on, friends?" in unison, it gave the question a very, very sinister, threatening meaning.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    They have a very North Korean cheerleader vibe going on.

    BTW, they're singing an old Phil Ochs song from the 60s. 'Cause they're like totes original and all.

  • Paloma||

    What a sad, embarrassing, group of miserable dorks. They should be laughed out of the auditorium. Nobody's gonna mistake these pathetic twats for youth who mounted the barricades in Les Miserables.

  • Rhywun||

    "A noisy minority was willing to impose its will on everyone else."

    The left in a nutshell.

  • buybuydandavis||

    *eager* to impose it's will on everyone else

    This is why the rules have to change every week. If people knew the rules, they might just obey them without much fuss, and then the Left wouldn't get the sexual thrill of forcing themselves on a struggling victim.

  • Trainer||

    Now THAT'S empowering women! Forget that 77 cents to the dollar. We want 1,200 to the dollar without leaving home and hearth.

  • WhereYou'reWrong||

    And this was at a Law School. Imagine a L & C grad trying their first lawsuit: they've been taught to open with a poorly reasoned barrage of buzzwords and statements unsupported by any evidence and then, when opposing council begins to speak, to have a gang of friends rush to the front of the courtroom with signs to shout them down. How could they loose?

  • DiegoF||

  • Eidde||

    Are we sure the disruptors are from the law school? I genuinely don't know.

  • DiegoF||

    Perhaps not. But reread the statement from the prog legal associations. Very clearly in "solidarity" with this type of action (not to mention none too smart sounding). Did they formally coordinate? Maybe not. But I don't know if I'd trust lawyers who produced that statement to do much better in the courtroom than what's been described.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    No surprise the cancerous National Lawyers Guild chapter is at the top of the list of signatories.

  • jph12||

    But good for the American Constitution Society for not joining in.

  • Jujucat||

    ...... was that.... REAL?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Shouting down a speaker is boorish and, often, counterproductive.

    Where did these students think they were, the average conservative-controlled campus shackled by censorship, loyalty oaths, suppression of science and academic freedom, the teaching of nonsense, and a fourth-tier ranking?

  • Buddy Bizarre||

    Try harder.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    No need.

    My preferences for American society have been vindicated throughout my lifetime, and there is scant reason to expect America's right-wingers to do any better in the next half-century than they have done in the most recent five decades.

    It must be tough to lose so frequently and resoundingly. Some people apparently don't mind, though.

  • ||

    Actually a big need.

    the average conservative-controlled campus shackled by censorship, loyalty oaths, suppression of science and academic freedom, the teaching of nonsense, and a fourth-tier ranking

    You mean liberal-controlled.

    My preferences for American society have been vindicated throughout my lifetime
  • MarkLastname||

    These things don't seem to be happening at Pepperdine and George Mason.

    Note that when you (here, leftists) have to suppress the opposition's speech by force, it's a sign that you're wrong and can't win the argument.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    A handful of conservative-leaning campuses avoid the censorship, nonsense, authoritarianism, and low quality that are the signature elements of most conservative-controlled schools. This distinguishes those few outliers from the hundreds of customary conservative-controlled schools; the outliers deserve substantial credit (and, unlike most of their conservative peers, also deserve accreditation).

    Why conservative schools tend to be low-quality institutions, and why conservatives have not built more strong schools, are interesting questions. One would expect an ostensible market deficiency to be addressed -- conservatives claim to perceive a problem, and plainly have the economic resources needed to correct it -- unless there is something about conservatism that is fundamentally incongruent with strong education.

  • Jujucat||

    I'm going to start making stuff up too, Rev. Confirmation bias makes arguing so much easier and fun!

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Here are 10 strong liberal-libertarian schools: Harvard, Yale, Penn, Columbia, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, Williams, Reed, Princeton.

    Let's see you to "make up" a list of 10 equally strong conservative schools, my wingnut friend.

    I'll make it easier -- can you build a list of 10 conservative schools that can hang with the top 50 or 60 libertarian schools?

    Good luck, goober.

  • Finrod||

    None of those are even close to libertarian, fuckwit leftist troll. Go throw yourself in a running woodchipper feet first.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    I tend to disregard claims regarding libertarianism from poorly educated, authoritarian, right-wing losers.

    Like most members of America's great liberal-libertarian alliance, I prefer tossing conservatives' aspirations in a woodchipper. Even after decades of watching right-wing aspirations die at the altar of American progress, I never tire of it.

    The crankiness of the backward, superstitious, and bigoted as they recognize they are still losing the culture war never gets old, either.

  • Jujucat||

    And be aware that just because your culture is louder does not make it a winner.

  • Peter Schaeffer||

    RALK,

    Over the last 30-40 years...

    Inequality has soared. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The minimum wage has plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Corporate profits as a share of GDP have soared and wages have plunged. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    Male LFP has crashed. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.
    The trade deficit has exploded. Proud of that Rev? You probably are.

    Of course, men can now use women's bathrooms... So life is great... Proud of that Rev? You probably are

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Like every progressive, his life has no value and he should kill himself. The on,y potential value he has is through the harvesting of his organs.

  • buybuydandavis||

    liberal-libertarian schools

    Bwahahahaha!

  • Jujucat||

    What is your definition of "liberal-libertarian"? What is your criteria for "strong" schools? Libertarian schools? Please provide examples of some libertarian schools. Thanks.

  • James Pollock||

    The thing about libertarians is that no two of them agree about anything, most especially what, exactly, it means to be "libertarian".

    That said, libertarians tend to coalesce into two of two major branches. One side is concerned pretty much solely with government encroachment on their liberty. At the extreme end of this branch of libertarianism, pretty much anything the government does besides enforcing contracts will be seen as bad. Cartoonish exaggeration: "What? Clean drinking water? All I care about is the government infringing my right to pour hexavalent chromium down my drains." These guys tend to have an inordinate amount of faith that "invisible hand" market forces will keep things running smoothly.

    The other branch of libertarianism tends to focus on encroachments to liberty from all sources, not just government. These guys tend to understand that absolutes, including absolute rights, don't actually exist... all rights have limits, and we'll want to define the limits to achieve the maximum actual liberty. Yes, having to wait at the stoplight sucks, but having the stoplight actually allows more traffic to pass through the intersection if it's a busy one.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Oh, I don't know. I think he's very trying as is.

  • Brandybuck||

    It's always pointed out that this is private property and thus not actual censorship. This is true, but it misses the real issue. This isn't about free speech. This is about universities refusing to maintain academic order on their campuses.

    Shit like this does not happen in office buildings. The building manager would call the cops and have the protesters kicked out for trespassing. But universities just roll over and let the students run the campus. It's bullshit.

    It's the university's physical venue, the university needs to maintain order. Provide clear rules for requisitioning the space, and don't renege at the last minute. Treat disruptive intrusions into that space as criminal trespass. Start expelling students. Put restraining orders on non-student agitators.

    Stop turning universities into adult day care centers.

  • DiegoF||

    At least real adult day care centers have hot chicks in diapers; at university all you have to choose from are young coeds with their gross smooth skin and weird roundish breasts.

  • DarrenM||

    Those aren't breasts.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Are you suggesting that America's strongest colleges and universities -- operated in the great liberal-libertarian tradition -- should begin to emulate the hundreds of third- and fourth-tier, right-wing snowflake factories and goober farms (old-timey conduct codes, censorship, suppression of science and academic freedom, loyalty oaths, viewpoint discrimination, teaching of nonsense, expulsion of heretics)?

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    I see you prefer schools with unspoken conduct codes, censorship, outright denial of science, unquestioned ideological loyalty, viewpoint discrimination, teaching of nonsense, and expulsion of anyone who doesn't agree with exactly what you agree with.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    No, he is not suggesting that.

  • Peter Schaeffer||

    RALK, You mean like Harvard where Larry Summers was forced out for mentioning "science"?

  • OGREtheTroll||

    It doesn't have to be government action to be censorship. Yes the 1st Amendment only prohibits government action, but that is not the sole definition of censorship. Private parties can censor speech just as well, and sometimes much more effectively, than the state.

  • Jujucat||

    Censorship requires the use of force and only the government is allowed by us citizens to uphold the laws by force if necessary.

  • cc2||

    Did you not see force being used in the video? It is not just laws of censorship that censor, but mobs also. And of course Twitter and Youtube and Facebook have all started censoring.

  • Jujucat||

    LEGAL use of force.

  • buybuydandavis||

    " The building manager would call the cops and have the protesters kicked out for trespassing. But universities just roll over and let the students run the campus."

    College administrators collaborate with the thugs to shut down speech by refusing to enforce the law. Most colleges have their own campus police. They are basically the civil authority of a small town.

    But you see this kind of behavior wherever the Left rules in America. The civil authorities remove police protection from law abiding citizens when their mobs are enforcing Leftist street justice.

  • James Pollock||

    "Most colleges have their own campus police."

    This one (The Northwest College of Law) is seven buildings on a hillside, next to a state park. No campus police.

    Does the fact that your facts are off by 180 degrees change your narrative? It doesn't? Never mind then.

  • JWatts||

    "It's always pointed out that this is private property and thus not actual censorship. This is true, but it misses the real issue. This isn't about free speech."

    No, it is about free speech. It's Not a Second Amendment issue. But free speech is broader than just the Second Amendment.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    "Stop turning universities into adult day care centers."

    But that's the problem. An office ISN'T an adult day care center. A university, to many students, is. That's why your comparison is flawed. There are consequences for office workers -- they'll lose their job. Many college students don't face the same consequence. A lot of them don't really want to be there in the first place, and usually don't have to care about the issue of putting food on their family's table. Entirely different consequences lead to different behaviors. Also consider that young people are notorious for not thinking rationally about consequences in the first place.

    So I think it's unfair to blame the universities. They're dealing with a much, much different issue and different group of people than the office building in your analogy. It's a lose-lose situation for the university.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    "A small cabal of illiberal activists" ... just come out and say it: a small cabal of neo-fascisti

  • Trainer||

    I love it when people use the term "comrade". I just can't take them seriously.

  • flyfishnevada||

    Whatever, comrade...

  • Tony||

    Don't these idiots realize that if they go around chopping off dicks they're just going to see more compensatory semiautomatic rifle sales.

  • DiegoF||

    SugarFree inspired poll, everyone: How cool would a weapon have to be for you to actually want to replace your dick with it?

  • Tony||

    Nothing's more satisfying than a bona fide dick slap.

  • James Pollock||

    Your frat parties must have been INTENSE.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    It would be great. I could finally have a literal hair trigger instead of a figurative hair trigger.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It's always instructive that left-wingers think of a penis every time they see a gun.

  • MarkLastname||

    That must be why Tony licks his lips every time he sees a gun.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Or a prepubescent boys ass.

  • DajjaI||

    This is easy to defuse. Just chant with them and they get embarrassed and go away. New laws to criminalize these protests can AND WILL be used against us after the dems sweep the midterms.

  • MasterThief||

    I saw a video of a feminist rally where a Mexican immigrant was shouting along with them and inserting comments to point out how ludocrous their statements were. Might have to look it up because it was hilarious

  • buybuydandavis||

    Disrupting a lawful assembly is not a "protest", it is a crime.

    Most states have laws against disrupting lawful assemblies. I looked up Oregon. They do too.

    But the Left need never ever fear that the Right would exert any power, lawful or otherwise, against them, because the Left might call them "authoritarian" and "racist".

    And there's nothing worse than that!

  • Consigliere of the Dark Ones||

    The protesters would probably like fascism.

  • DiegoF||

    Fascism means real freedom, not any of this artificially narrow "negative freedom" and propertarianism that libertarians fetishize!

    Also, as Mussolini explained, the state cannot infringe upon the people's rights because the state manifests the will of the people. He may have been full of shit, but we here in the U.S. have genuinely achieved the very same collective-will manifestation in government decisionmaking through the magical mechanism of democracy.

    The second point is only worth mentioning here, else I were preaching to the choir, because if you throw enough subsidiarity into the mix a lot of libertarians start to sound not very much different.

  • flyfishnevada||

    How can they not be victims and then list everything they're victims of? Oh, they're SJW's.

  • GILMORE™||

    "" (If you're not with antifa, you must be with the fascists, I guess.)""

    yesterday's foul-balls are today's home runs!

  • Kroneborge||

    Real simple solution. Start arresting them. If that doesn't work follow with suspensions and expulsions

  • flyfishnevada||

    No, they're entitled to disrupt talks and suppress others' speech. They're special.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    "Real simple solution. Start arresting them."

    Spoken like every politician ever. How many more failures do mass incarceration and the police state need before we start to realize that the solution to life's problems isn't to just arrest people?

  • Provocateur||

    "the Portland National Lawyers Guild, Minority Law Students Association, Black Law Students Association, Women's Law Caucus, Immigration Student Group, Jewish Law Society, Latino Law Society, OutLaw, and Lewis & Clark Young Democratic Socialists of America issued a joint-statement condemning the Federalist Society for inviting Sommers."

    What the heck!?! Why weren't these groups opposed by the Freedom National Lawyers Guild, Non-Minority Law Students Association, White Law Students Association, Men's Law Caucus, Anti-Immigration Student Group, Anti-Jewish Law Society, Non-Latino Law Society, InLaw, and Lewis & Clark Young But Not-Economically-Illiterate of America???

  • ronb||

    like very many conservative articles I read, this is an accurate description of a serious problem with no solution recommended. how does this problem get fixed?

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    These guys don't like to be called conservatives. They dislike it so much they masquerade in silly libertarian drag.

  • BigT||

    As opposed to the Rev, who claims to be liberal-libertarian and is neither. Communist or Menshevik fits better.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Corpse sounds even better.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It's pretty simple--"Any student who disrupts a scheduled speaker on this campus and denies them their right to speak will be punished with penalties ranging from suspension to expulsion, depending on the severity of the incident. Any student who threatens or assaults a guest speaker will be automatically expelled and their academic record expunged."

    Fucking with these kids' futures--especially after they've taken out thousands in student loans that they'll now have to pay--is the only way to get their attention.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    You're assuming a lot of things. First, you're assuming that their goal ISN'T to get arrested or expelled, and that they DON'T want all the publicity that goes along with it. Second, you're assuming that their futures and their student loans are of interest to them. Third, you're assuming that children think rationally about consequences.

    I think a strong argument can be made against all three assumptions. I don't see your suggestion being the solution at all.

    In my view, the solution is the same as the solution to Parkland and the solution to 9/11: do nothing. These occurrences are quite literally so infrequent that the proposed "fix" will do far more harm.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    First, you're assuming that their goal ISN'T to get arrested or expelled, and that they DON'T want all the publicity that goes along with it.

    If that's their goal, it's a stupid one--expulsion is something that follows you around, and that's crippling to the kind of studycunts these movements tend to attract.

    Second, you're assuming that their futures and their student loans are of interest to them.

    It might not be immediately, but it will be when the bills start arriving.

    Third, you're assuming that children think rationally about consequences

    But they're not children--they're adults and need to face adult consequences. Half the problem with these demonstrations is that their behavior is enabled, not punished.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    You're too rational and you're projecting that rationality to kids. That's why your proposed solution won't work. What you're calling "punishment" would be a punishment to you, but it's not a punishment to THEM. If you're a parent and you're trying to teach your kid a lesson by sending him to his room, you better first make sure that going to his room isn't something that he finds enjoyable.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    That's why your proposed solution won't work. What you're calling "punishment" would be a punishment to you, but it's not a punishment to THEM

    I'm sorry, but you're assuming that they're completely irrational. You really think they're TRYING to get expelled because it will feed their martyr complex? They wouldn't have spent all that time filling out student loan forms and taking the LSAT if they were just looking to get kicked out. They're acting out precisely BECAUSE this behavior isn't met with a swift response.

  • James Pollock||

    "Third, you're assuming that children think rationally about consequences."

    Average age of students at Northwest College of Law is over 30. How much longer do we have to wait?

  • Paloma||

    Would it be impossible for the sponsors of speakers to hire or beef up security for their speeches? Then if they are forcibly interrupted, the security guards come in like bouncers, confiscating bullhorns and forcibly ejecting those who disrupt. Ten muscular security guards should be able to handle thirty or so protesters. And if you need more, hire more.

  • James Pollock||

    "Would it be impossible for the sponsors of speakers to hire or beef up security for their speeches?"

    Well, that would take money.
    You're also assuming that the point of inviting a hostile speaker to come to campus is to actually hear what they have to say. If the goal is to draw a protest that acts badly, then hiring security would be counter-productive.

  • James Pollock||

    Also, forcibly ejecting people who are learning how to file lawsuits might draw, well, you know where I'm going with this.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "Sommers was able to partly deliver her remarks, but she so incensed the crowd that a dean of diversity approached the podium and asked her to quickly wrap things up and progress to Q and A."

    You see, it's all her fault for "incensing" the crowd.

    Also, notice that the "Dean of Diversity" represented the administration. The person with the full time sinecure to push SJW power was the one who finally told Sommers she had to shut up, when the attempts by the students to get her to shut up failed.

    The Lewis and Clark administration is mostly at fault here. College administrations act as a local government, controlling the police force of their campus. It was their *responsibility* to direct police to arrest those disrupting Sommers' lawful assembly. Also, if they want any pretense of valuing free speech on their campus, it's their *responsibility* to expel students who criminally shut down the free speech rights of others.

    Instead, they sent their official mob collaborator, armed with their administrative power, to see to it that Justice was *not* served, and the mob succeeded in silencing Sommers.

  • James Pollock||

    "College administrations act as a local government, controlling the police force of their campus."

    Unfortunately for your argument, NW College of Law doesn't HAVE a police force, and campus is only seven buildings. Literally the only time they HAVE police show up is when they get sitting U.S. Supreme Court justices to come visit.

  • Tionico||

    Eedjits have no clue what a "fascist" is. Their senseless mumbo jumbo proves them to be spoilt brats that have never grown up. Sad a gang of such louts can prevent OTHERS from hearing and handling what some people may have to say.
    My question, though: WHERE were police and campus officials? THEY should have taken the troublemekers into custody for disturbing the peace, inciting to riot, denying the rights of Sommers to speak and those who came to hear her from hearing. At least detain and remove that ringleader piece of work. Six year olds behaving like that would get dealt with. So should this six year old inhabiting a body of far more years.........

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    Uh... you mean if the campus police succumbed to the protesters' end goal of getting forcibly removed from the venue? That would have been a best case scenario for this group, not actually shortening Sommers' lecture.

    Moral of the story -- you can't always solve problems with force.

  • Anna Reeves||

    The students are the ones who are suffering attacks in their schools, so why shouldn't they protest? Why shouldn't ALL of us who are under attack in our places of worship, work, shopping, transportation, in fact everywhere we go in public, protest? Why should the rights of the majority be outweighed by the minority of the population who want to own weapons of (almost) mass destruction? Although I am just a writer at the essay website I'd still say iIt's time to get rid of the politicians who are paid by the NRA and arms manufacturers to do nothing to help our public safety.

  • Tyler R||

    Libertarians and conservatives should love this stuff. This does more to push people away from SJW types than any discussion or debate ever could, not to mention it gives much more attention to Ms. Sommers, or whoever the speaker is. I get a little frustrated by the whole narrative that college campuses are anti-free speech. This stuff is always about 15 to 20 kids, most of whom are not actually students, alienating thousands of students from all sides of the political spectrum.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    "This stuff is always about 15 to 20 kids, most of whom are not actually students, alienating thousands of students from all sides of the political spectrum."

    This is a very, very important point.

    Besides, who gives a shit what children think anyway? I mean, I know that's kind of a callous way to present it, but at the end of the day these are mostly kids who are trying to get their bearings in life. They say and do a lot of stupid things and notoriously lack maturity. I don't have a big problem with them attempting to speak their mind, because it's good practice. But we should be mindful that they're still just children practicing with concepts that they're newly exposed to. It's kinda cute. Reason.com overemphasizes the importance of their thoughts and behaviors, and it's a little annoying.

  • Brubaker||

    Above all else, the protesters seem terrified at the possibility that by listening to another person they might actually learn something. Mom and dad must be so proud.

  • TxJack 112||

    If you look at the political spectrum as a circle rather than a straight line, you discover communism and fascism are next to each other which is why they use the same tactics to quell opposition. Antifa are self avowed communists, who claim to be fighting fascism by being fascists.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    Many of them are self avowed anarchists too, which is at the opposite end of the spectrum and closer to libertarianism.

    Now, I don't know if they're actually anarchists or if they just like the word. But it's worth pointing out, because if they don't know what anarchy is then they probably don't know what socialism, communism, and fascism is either.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    "...because of the way systemic oppression manifests, we know those who live at intersections of oppression—cis and trans women of color, genderqueer and gender non-conforming women of color..."

    Even if we accept the protesters' view, it's hard to make the argument that these groups are the predominant target of systemic oppression. Poor people? Sure. Black people? I get that. There are numerous examples of laws designed specifically to target those groups, imprison them, or restrict their socioeconomic mobility. But gender-non-conforming? Give me a break. They have the bathroom issue and they have the marriage issue. Talk to me when the government is systematically imprisoning you at historic levels.

    Spending your time focused on gender and bathrooms is as niche of a protest as libertarians complaining about gay wedding cakes.

  • GILMORE™||

    Progressive journalist typist, David Klion, on the "'campus lefties declaring people nazis and disrupting their events"-fad:


    @DavidKlion

    Oh no, someone was rude to Christina Hoff Sommers, the anti-feminist who made fun of me for being "off his meds again" the other day. That's basically the same thing as the Spanish Inquisition, if you're the smartest person working at the New York Times.

    @DavidKlion

    This whole thing was staged. She shows up, taunts the students, says she's going to call their moms on them. They take the bait, Sommers gins up outrage, and right on cue Bari Weiss, David Frum, Joe Scarborough, etc are hyperbolically denouncing the students. It's a racket.

    @DavidKlion

    To see these people as persecuted, you have to be so stupid you don't even realize how cynical you also are. And that describes a big swath of the mainstream right, which is ginning up this fake free speech controversy. Meanwhile some antifa protesters face jail for free speech.

    @DavidKlion

    The point of all this is to turn campuses into safe spaces for bad faith right-wing provocateurs. It is itself against the spirit of free inquiry. It's a cynical fascist tactic, exploiting liberal naivete about open debate to launder discredited hateful ideas into the mainstream.

    It goes on like this.

    He's one of those "mainsteam sources" robby refers to for character references.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Someone should ask him if being told that he was off his meds was like going through the Holocaust.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    The thing is, these nitwits are basically hobby protesters. They'll do it so long as it's made easy and fun. If they were faced with serious opposition, and likely to collect either onerous penalties or a moderate beating, they would quit.

    Were one sadistic, one might wish for them to encounter the Pinkertons circa 1891.

  • JunkScienceIsJunk||

    "and likely to collect either onerous penalties"

    If the penalty was loss of cell phone privileges for a month, there wouldn't have been a single protester.

  • James Pollock||

    "If the penalty was loss of cell phone privileges for a month..."

    The campus is on a steep hillside, with extremely poor cell coverage from all the providers. These guys are tougher than you think.

  • sgreffenius||

    It's one thing to have these kinds of attacks occur at poorly led campuses like Middlebury and Reed. But at a _law_ school? Anti-free speech protesters now infest our law schools? Law schools are supposed to stand for rule of law, not mob rule. We have not had rule of law for a long time now, but law schools keep its memory before us.

    I don't know anything about what Christina Sommers stands for, and I guess I won't find out.

    Here's what gets old: use of macroaggressions to protest microaggressions. Use of violence to silence speech you don't like, because the speech you don't like supposedly promotes violence. The protesters can't think, and have no awareness at all of their double standard. They do not deserve our attention. I suppose that's why they force themselves to the front of the room.

  • James Pollock||

    "It's one thing to have these kinds of attacks occur at poorly led campuses like Middlebury and Reed. But at a _law_ school?"

    Former Reed president John Kroger was the state of Oregon's Attorney General before his appointment at Reed.

    And before that, he was a professor at the Northwest College of Law, at Lewis and Clark.

  • Árboles de la Barranca||

    Strangely, the most culturally-somnambulistic social warmongers are the ones who insist they are woke.

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