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5 Things Barack Obama Said in His Weirdly Off-the-Record MIT Speech

"We didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us," said the former president. "I know that seems like a low bar."

ObamaDouliery Olivier/ABACA/NewscomOn Friday, former President Barack Obama spoke for an hour to an audience of hundreds of people at a major sports analytics* conference at MIT, but his remarks were off-the-record and kept completely secret by virtually all attendees, who had to agree that they would not record, photograph, tweet, or report on the event before being granted a seat in the audience. Reason obtained a recording of the speech, however, and the most newsworthy thing about it is the simple fact that the public wasn't supposed to hear it.

In his remarks, Obama expressed concern that Americans have segregated themselves into two "entirely different realities" where not just opinions but basic facts are in dispute, claimed to have left office without a major "embarrassing" scandal, and proved that he really loves basketball.

Those were some of the highlights from his talk at MIT's Sloan Sports Analytics Conference on Friday. The event, attended by hundreds of sports industry professionals, journalists, and students, was cloaked in secrecy. Having listened to the entire thing, I'm not sure what all the secrecy was about—it was pretty standard Obama fare, and he never once said the word Trump, though Obama did seem to imply that his White House was remarkably drama-free in contrast. Here are five key takeaways:

1) Obama thinks Google, Facebook, etc., are "a public good as well as a commercial enterprise," and should consider whether they are corroding our democracy.

Obama described social media platforms as a "hugely powerful potential force for good," but then immediately hedged. "What's also true is that our social media platforms are just a tool," he said. "ISIS can use that tool. Neo-Nazis can use that tool. I do think the large platforms—Google and Facebook being the most obvious, Twitter and others as well, are part of that ecosystem—have to have a conversation about their business model that recognizes they are a public good as well as a commercial enterprise. They're not just an invisible platform, they're shaping our culture in powerful ways."

Much of that shaping is bad, according to Obama. "Essentially we now have entirely different realities that are being created with not just different opinions, but now different facts," he said. "And this isn't just by the way Russian inspired bots and fake news. This is Fox News vs. The New York Times editorial page. If you look at these different sources of information, they do not describe the same thing. In some cases, they don't even talk about the same thing. And so it is very difficult to figure out how democracy works over the long term in those circumstances."

Obama noted that in other countries—like China—the government simply decides which viewpoints can be aired in public, but "that's not who we are, and that's not the society I want to live in." Even so, media giants like Facebook and Google should keep in mind that the U.S. government has a role to play in ensuring there are "basic rules of the road in place that create level playing fields."

2) It's okay to argue about how we should address climate change. It's not okay to deny the underlying science.

As an example of the kind of epistemic closure described above, Obama offered up the debate over climate change.

"You and I can have an argument about climate change in which you conclude, 'we're not going to stop the Chinese and the Indians from burning a bunch of coal, it's gone on for a pretty long time, we're just going to have to adapt, and maybe we'll invent some new energy source in the nick of time, and that's why I'm opposed to the Paris Accords,'" said Obama. "I'll come back and say, 'well no it just turns out if we just invest in some smart technology and we create a smart regulatory framework that incentivizes investment in clean energy, we can actually solve this problem now, and if we don't it's going to be catastrophic.'"

This kind of debate is healthy for a democracy, said Obama. But, "I can't have that same debate with somebody who just holds up a snowball in the middle of the Senate chamber in winter and says, 'look there's no climate change because it's snowing!' Which happened by the way. I didn't just make that up."

3) Obama really likes basketball—and he'd like it more if the NBA had a junior league.

The subject of the event was sports analytics, and the former president—known for his love of basketball—did not disappoint on that front. He discussed his own years as a mediocre high school basketball player, remarked that playing basketball with other people revealed much about their character, and opined that the NBA would be well-served by junior league "so that the NCAA is not serving as a farm system for the NBA with a bunch of kids who are unpaid but are under enormous financial pressure."

"It's just not a sustainable way of doing business," said Obama. "Then when everybody acts shock that some kid from extraordinarily poor circumstances who's got 5, 10, 15 million dollars waiting for him is going to be circled by everybody in a context in which people are making billions of dollars, it's not good." Creating an alternative league for people eventually headed to the NBA "won't solve all the problems but what it will do is reduce the hypocrisy" of pretending that all student-athletes are both students and athletes.

4) Diversity isn't about "charity or political correctness, it's just common sense." And it's why his White House was scandal-free, according to the president.

Obama didn't comment on the #MeToo movement specifically, but he did stress that it should be a top priority for companies to make women feel safe and respected at work, give them equal pay for equal work, and make an effort to actually listen to what they are saying. If women are afraid to speak up, or are talked over by men, a good boss should call on them and ask their opinions.

"In today's culture, if you are not deliberately doing that, you are going to fall behind, and someone is going to beat you," he said.

Obama said that this was the approach he took while in office, and it helped get him through eight years without a major scandal.

"We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," he said. The former president admitted that his team made mistakes, but no massive screw-ups. He then said, "I know that seems like a low bar," at which point the audience burst into laughter. "Generally speaking, you didn't hear about a lot of drama inside our White House," he said. This was the closest Obama came to critiquing the new administration.

5) Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong.

The idea that people in the private sector work harder than the feds is a misperception, said Obama.

"At least at the top levels of the federal government, people work harder than in the private sector," he Obama. "When I came out of the White House, everything looked like it was in slow motion. I felt like I was Neo in The Matrix. Our folks were putting in 80-hour work weeks and barely getting vacations and under unimaginable pressure."

The remark came in the context of a discussion about child-leave policies—Obama suggested that since he had found a way to accommodate his hard-working staff members with familial commitments, despite the demanding nature of the job, so too could the private sector.

"We set up policies that if you had a child, you had a parent teacher conference, you had the things that needed to be done to raise someone, that was part of the deal," he said. "The private sector has to step up because it's smart business. The data shows it."

The full audio recording is below.

*CORRECTION: The MIT conference was described as being about sports policy in the original version of this article. It was about sports analytics.

Photo Credit: Douliery Olivier/ABACA/Newscom

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Generally speaking, you didn't hear about a lot of drama inside our White House," he said.

    A telling choice of phrasing.

    "At least at the top levels of the federal government, people work harder than in the private sector," he Obama.

    It's hard work trying to control every fucking thing.

  • buybuydandavis||

    It may take a lot out of them, but I wouldn't call it work. They get a sexual thrill in exercising their domination over the peasants.

    They rape peasants and get paid for it. Am I supposed to be impressed that they're dedicated rapists?

  • Sneazon||

    Have you been raped or are you a rapist? You seem to exist in a binary world where it's one or the other.

  • Florida Prophet||

    Essentially, it IS binary. You are either a net maker or a taker. The latter consists of those who accept government largess, or are part of the transfer mechanism that buys the votes which nourishes their secure position within the State. The former consists of everyone else.

    There is a small carve out of honest government officials. Probably counted on the fingers of one's hand.

  • ConstitutionFirst||

    Very good.

    Ayn Rand lives.

  • James Taggart||

    Don't think Ayn Rand still lives but Wesley Mouch definitely works for the federal government.

  • MoreFreedom||

    Most of government, as measured on government spending, is taking for redistribution. There's also the administrative state, making rules that favor some over others and replaces the free market with the common law resolving disputes (so that part is taking as well but isn't reflected in spending). It's evil, just like rape because it's all supported by taking peoples money via government force.

    The necessary evil part of government, which exists to harm criminals and foreign enemies, is a much smaller part of government, especially the federal government. That's the part of government we create to protect our lives, liberty and pursuit of happiness. The rest of the government isn't far different from criminals, including rapists, it's just that literal rape is unlikely unless you're locked up for for some victimless crime and another convict or corrupt guard rapes you. Mostly they just take your stuff.

  • aajax||

    Takers are not restricted to government, and makers are not restricted to private sector.

  • gclancy51||

    So are government employees who build infrastructure rapers or makers? Can one rape oneself in your ridiculous false dichotomy?

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    You're right, trump should be publicly executed for rape.

  • Chuck U. Farley||

    Should Bill Clinton also suffer the same fate? I mean after all he actually had women come foward and describe their actual incidents and actually paid off a lawsuit brought by Paula Jones were as your allegations are purely conjecture. So let me stop you before you make an ass of yourself, Karen McDougal we find out wrote her statment 10yrs after the supposed incident happened and no one knows for sure yet if she is even telling the truth.

  • ImanAzol||

    Ohhh, right, because he mentioned the metaphorical, "let you grab them by the pussy." "Let: n -to allow, to furnish consent.

    There's no tard like a libtard.

    Who suddenly support the death penalty when it's not one of their favorite terrorists or child molesters.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    It's a new rule of grammar, soon coming to textbooks near you: Any statement by Donald Trump must be interpreted in the worst way possible, even if there are exculpatory interpretations available, or the context implies some other meaning.

  • SunkCost||

    What's the good interpretation of "grab them by the pussy"?

  • John3633Smith||

    Jockstrap talk. Stop acting like a glib. You never bragged to your buddies about a sexual conquest? Have you ever been in a locker room at work or at the gym with a bunch of guys? It's what guys do when they're together.

  • RockLibertyWarrior||

    @TrumpISATRAITOR fucking moron hypocrite, bet you wouldn't say the same about Clinton. Do us a favor and kill yourself, fucking jerk off waste of air and space.

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  • MayaAyala||

    Good points.

    Here's my thoughts on these Obama points...

    1.) Six corporations control almost all of the television "news." Three corporations control the flow of nearly all internet search results. A handful of companies control the print "news" in America. The "free press" is dead. There is a reason why trust in the mass media is at an all-time low. The entire industry -- and that is what it truly is -- is a partisan, agenda-driven and profit-driven entity.

    2.) Science is built upon skepticism. Group think is as dangerous in science as it is in a corporate or political office.

    3.) Obama "likes" basketball? So what? I suspect that he probably watches a few games each year. He supposedly watches baseball too -- but he couldn't name any players on any of the teams that he supposedly "likes."

    4.) While Obama and the media pretends that his administration was "scandal free," the truth is that it was far from it. The difference was simply that the media ignored the scandals or gave coverage to the Democratic talking points about "phony scandals."

    5.) Apparently, Obama has never been to a DMV in California. The truth is that there are some good government workers. Most are not. There is a difference between government workers at the highest levels (i.e., executive offices) and bloated federal and state bureaucracies.

  • NoVaNick||

    Apparently, Obama has never been to a DMV in California.

    He didn't need to look any further than US gov't workers. Note his emphasis on "high-level government employees." There were some glaring examples of no-show workers at the EPA and porn watching by patent office employees during his administration.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Last year someone thoughtfully filed a tax return for me. I called the IRS (those hardworking, dedicated, incorruptible government servants) with a grand total of two questions based on acquaintances experiences with this before: 1) Do I need to file a paper return? and 2) Do I need to submit an affidavit (that the earlier return was false)? After 3 rounds of "Please wait for 4-7 minutes while I research that for you," this gifted IRS worker came back and asked, "What was that you asked about? An Alpha David?" To which I had to explain to HIM what an affidavit was (not that he understood). End result after 3 more "4-7 minutes of 'research'" was that 1) Yes, I needed to file a paper return, and 2) "No, man, you don't need no Alpha David. You good." Oh and he EAGERLY volunteered to give me the mailing address to send my return in. 3 times. Gosh, I would have been lost without that...

    I was never so proud of the work my tax dollars support than on that day.

  • aistamn||

    That is some quality government service right there! It took me multiple calls and 11 months to get my refund when that happened to me. And when I tried to buy a house 18 months later, I failed the income test because the IRS had the fraudulent numbers as my actual income.

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    WOW! That's. HUGE SCANDAL!!! OMFG!!! lmfao. Better than the near endless scandals under trump of child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, money laundering, treason, obscene ethics violations.....

  • PewPewGunsarecool||

    Obama had an American child killed by a drone. Trump essentially did the same. To claim one is less scandalous than the other is ridiculous.

  • Augustine||

    But Obama got to hold Nobel Peace Prize while ordering the strike.

  • PewPewGunsarecool||

    Obama had an American child killed by a drone. Trump essentially did the same. To claim one is less scandalous than the other is ridiculous.

  • PewPewGunsarecool||

    Obama had an American child killed by a drone. Trump essentially did the same. To claim one is less scandalous than the other is ridiculous.

  • PewPewGunsarecool||

    Obama had an American child killed by a drone. Trump essentially did the same. To claim one is less scandalous than the other is ridiculous.

  • RockLibertyWarrior||

    @TrumpIsATRAITOR waste of space you forgot Nobama's drone attack without trial on a American citizen, using the NSA to spy on Americans, using the IRS to harass pro freedom groups, spying on opposition candidates during election time etc. Yeah fucktard Nobama had NO scandals. Go fucking die dickless piece of shit.

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    WOW! That's. HUGE SCANDAL!!! OMFG!!! lmfao. Better than the near endless scandals under trump of child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, money laundering, treason, obscene ethics violations.....

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    WOW! That's. HUGE SCANDAL!!! OMFG!!! lmfao. Better than the near endless scandals under trump of child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, money laundering, treason, obscene ethics violations.....

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    WOW! That's. HUGE SCANDAL!!! OMFG!!! lmfao. Better than the near endless scandals under trump of child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, money laundering, treason, obscene ethics violations.....

  • Sneazon||

    I've been to a number of CA DMV offices and they were surprisingly efficient. Wherever you go must have been the remedial employees. Maybe they get the option of location and none of the smart ones wanted to serve the town where the assholes lived.

  • ||

    I haven't been to a California DMV office in ~45 years, but I have contemporary experience with the Georgia DMV. Their employees have been helpful, and my visits usually taken less time than anticipated.

    The one I remember most clearly was when I bought a used motorcycle on a Saturday, and went to the DMV on a Monday. The clerk told me that the dealer had not provided a date for when they had acquired the bike, and I would have to take the title back to the dealer (~25 miles away) for correction.

    I explained that traditionally, almost all motorcycle dealers are closed on Mondays. She said that if the title had a date, she could process it, then she looked away for 30 seconds. When she looked back, the title had a date, and I was able to complete my registration.

  • Nativerage||

    I would add his disgraceful execution of the failed fast and furious program. Remember the one here he "lost" hundreds of thousands of illegal firearms in his own country. If those kids are wondering why we will never get rid of our gun rights, they needn't look any further than the former president. Remember that word, Barack. FORMER!

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    Basketball? ESPN glorified him by televising his NCAA bracket picks (universally wrong) and filming him shooting jump shots -- and missing 20 out of 22. "Mediocre" barely gets there. But on the other hand this poseur has made a career out of pretending he is more than he really is.

  • jonnysage||

    1. Corporations don't control anything. People CHOOSE to use their products because they are the best. There are thousands of news media and dozens of search engines and social networks.

  • damikesc||

    I'd wonder how Obama knows how hard the private sector works.

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    That's not a reality he'd ever care to visit.

  • ||

    You didn't hear it because largely the media was "an ally".

  • Penny_Worth||

    Ain't that the truth! What about Lois Learner and the IRS targeting Conservative and Libertarian groups,(not to mention the BATF and other agencies targeting his political enemies)? The sale of arms to Mexican traffickers, ransom payments to Iranian 'government', falsifying records at the VA after veterans lost their lives due to VA hospital incompetence are all a part of the Obama administration's 'legacy'. The Democratic party has it's own issues as well, including former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, whose quote, "We have to pass the bill (Obamacare) to see what's in it." is one of the reasons I trust practically no one in government (< 1%), at least at the Federal level.

  • Sleeping_Through_Hanukkah||

    Those were objectively bland scandals.

    And your Pelosi quote is obviously out of context.

  • Sleeping_Through_Hanukkah||

    Those were objectively bland scandals.

    And your Pelosi quote is obviously out of context.

  • SunkCost||

    It was BS cooked up the republicans in the House. Learner investigated both types of 503(c)s but the republicans only asked about conservative organizations. Also the Pelosi comment was rhetorical. She meant that the bill had been so slandered -"Death Panels!!" we had to pass it to prove they didn't exist. But you live in your own little new bubble so you never learned these things.

  • ConstitutionFirst||

    Nothing "leaks" in the Progressive/Marxist world of 0bama.

    We have a an unelected, unaccountable Leftist Media holding sway over Congress and the Supreme Court which means you Serfs have no function other than funding the mess that once was a Democratic Republic.

  • ConstitutionFirst||

    Nothing "leaks" in the Progressive world 0bama lives in. The Leftist/Marxist Media has his back in every way. The unaccountable, unelected mob that we know better as Presstitutes holds sway over Congress and the Supreme Court never intended by our Forefathers, leaving the Will of the People swinging in the breeze. We are little more than Serfs funding this mess that used to be a Federal Republic.

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    IF you do t like the greatest country on earth: GTFO. AntiAmerican pigs like you should be hunted and removed.

  • RockLibertyWarrior||

    @TrumpisATRAITOR speak for yourself, asswipe. I'd LOVE if somebody hunted you down and removed you, you fucking retard.

  • Fancylad||

    Tony, you're outdoing yourself.

  • ImanAzol||

    Well, they're working hard to blame it all on Russians.

  • RM28||


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  • alicepaulin||

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    This is Fox News vs. The New York Times editorial page. If you look at these different sources of information, they do not describe the same thing.

    If only there were a gatekeeper of information.

    This kind of debate is healthy for a democracy, said Obama.

    So long as you don't stray too deep into independent thought.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...the former president—known for his love of basketball—did not disappoint on that front.

    Way to be a cliche, Mr. President.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    ... as he took a puff from a Newpo't.

  • BigT||

    And a slug of malt liquor.

  • BigT||

    And a slug of malt liquor.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    I would have guessed a Virginia Slim.

  • silver.||

    I was thinking that he might've actually smoked Newports because he started in college. When he "banned" cloves he said he got his start on flavored tobacco of some sort, as most people do because cigs taste like licking the bottom of a shoe.

    I don't know which is weirder, that he smoked Reds or that he occasionally bummed them off staffers.

  • NoVaNick||

    I never liked menthols-even when I started smoking.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'm glad you listened to it, Robbo, and not I. I'm pretty sure that was a federal crime.

  • Jerryskids||

    While it would be a crime for you or I to listen to it, it's not a crime for Robby to listen to it since he's a Journalist and Journalists have special powers. Just ask noted Constitutional scholar Chris Cuomo.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    His Israel -> Palestine joke earlier was good.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    I remember during his campaign when Obama was going to be the first Jewish president. It's a Democratic tradition. They anointed Bill Clinton as the first African-American president.

  • BigT||

    He was the first lobotomized prez.

  • GeneralWeygand||

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....

    +1...very nice

  • DiegoF||

    It's a pity our would-be first American Indian president will likely have her scalp taken by Trump.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    I'm sure he stole it from 4chan.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    You just outed yourself, Weigel.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    Wow... what a dunce.

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," said the former president. "I know that seems like a low bar."

    What a way to reveal your own shamelessness.

    "When I came out of the White House, everything looked like it was in slow motion."

    We don't give Obama enough credit for leaving the White House to go manage a McDonalds franchise.

    Be honest, Robbo: did you sneak in with a tape recorder? I SAID BE HONEST

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    He never developed the ability to feel embarrassment. Sad.

  • Raoul Duke||

    I assume that's a lie because he's a politician, but if true I'm deeply embarrassed for him being so absolutely unaware.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    The Coif did. Technically, The Coif is a separate entity, because Robby purchased it Cypriot citizenship. So Robby is innocent.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    I picture Robby standing in the back of the auditorium, trying to look inconspicuous in a trench coat and that head of hair.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    "We don't give Obama enough credit for leaving the White House to go manage a McDonalds franchise."

    Obama isn't qualified to run a McDonald's. Also, it would be cultural appropriation against the Scottish people.

  • Vin_Decks!!!||

    Fast and Furious. The IRS scandal. The $2 billion spent building Healthcare.gov. The Veterans Administration letting veterans die waiting for care. The Office of Personnel Management hacking. Lying about Bowe Berghdahl. Solyndra . Jonathan Gruber's declaration that Obamacare depended upon the "stupidity of American voter." The stimulus "was riddled with a massive labor scheme that harmed workers and cheated unsuspecting American taxpayers." Prostitution and incompetence in the U.S. Secret Service. Hillary and her private e-mail server. The Department of Justice secretly reviewed the phone records of at least 20 phone lines of Associated Press reporters — their work, home, and cell-phone lines. The administration's handling of the Deepwater Horizon disaster. The Department of Justice's decision to call Fox News reporter James Rosen a criminal "co-conspirator" in leaking classified information. The Department of Justice punishing and prosecuting a record number of whistleblowers. Benghazi — the failure to provide Chris Stephens with the security he requested, the inability to put together a rescue operation that night, and the false explanation to the public afterwards blaming a video.

  • Vin_Decks!!!||

    Issuing waivers to Obamacare in violation of the law. Attacking Libya in violation of both the War Powers Act *and* UN Article 39. Running guns to ISIS via the non-existent "Free Syrian Army". Transferring funds to the UN Climate Fund without congressional authorization. Allowing (if not encouraging) EPA to violate FOIA and evade congressional oversight via setting up misnamed email accounts for senior management to use. The Obama administration made hostage ransom payments to the Iranian government and lied about having done so. I'm sure you can remember others.

    Just how deep in denial do you have to be to say a sentence like, "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us"?

  • Finrod||

    The obvious conclusion is that Obama is incapable of being embarassed.

  • jamie doe||

    You forgot one....the Obama administration paid ransom to Iran and lied about it to the American people.

  • Vin_Decks!!!||

    Uhh... reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

  • SunkCost||

    That was Regan.

  • Paradigm||

    Don't forget throwing Dinesh D'Souza into jail for an "illegal campaign contribution," which Chicago Democrats make practically on a daily basis. How about throwing the Benghazi videographer in jail for a year for "parole violation," something that would warrant a letter in other cases. Oh, and let us not forget flag.gov, where people could turn in other citizens who were "spreading lies" about Obamacare.

    Jesus, the list is long.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    "The private sector has to step up because it's smart business. The data shows it."

    Then it's easy, it will just happen.

  • Sevo||

    "At least at the top levels of the federal government, people work harder than in the private sector,"

    I'm sure he's been at the top level of the private sector and therefore able to make this comparison.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Imagine it was true, doesn't it just really put to shame government how much less they get done? They might not do as much but they try really, really hard while doing it.

  • Cyto||

    I have actually worked at the top levels of the private sector. Even in his "wow, we were really working hard" exaggeration, they worked 80 hour weeks.

    An 80 hour week would not be a long week for any of the executives I worked with. I routinely put in 100 hour weeks, with 80 hours being very normal and 60 hours being about the least you'd put in - if you had something else going on, like buying a new house or getting married or something.

    He really hasn't got a clue. No wonder he thinks you didn't build that business. He thinks everyone in the private sector works at the same pace as an ex-president who goes around making speeches at a years's salary each for a living.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    The private sector can build a website that works in less than 2 years and for less than $500MM dollars.

  • Fk_Censorship||

    If you worked so much, you weren't really being efficient. Nor were Obama's executives. Working 80-hour weeks is pretty much virtue signaling.

  • Cloudbuster||

    For a sufficiently soul-killing definition of "virtue."

  • Steevie||

    you routinely worked 20 hrs/day?

  • BSL1||

    You think there are 5 days in a week?

  • ||

    They work HARD to find new ways to tax those bungling "privateers".

  • Rat on a train||

    "Essentially we now have entirely different realities that are being created with not just different opinions, but now different facts," he said.
    Obama said that this was the approach he took while in office, and it helped get him through eight years without a major scandal.

    Yep, alternate realities.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    Benghazi is only a major scandal if you read certain newspapers.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    You mean ones that report actual news? I've heard of those.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Obama is so awesome! I really wish I could have voted for him, but I wasn't 18 yet. Of course if the voting age was 16 like it should be, I would have been eligible in 2012. Damn that NRA and its big money influence that keeps high school kids from voting.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    Damn that NRA and its big money influence that keeps high school kids from voting.


    That's actually funny, because I bet there are enough Marxians who believe that!

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    The Marxian was a great movie about a guy trying to survive, and ultimately escape from, the desolation of Marx.

  • Rat on a train||

    Policies impact the lives of children so let all children vote.

  • DiegoF||

    OBL, are you expressing resentment that you were not able to vote at 16, but undocumented Americans, lacking documents and all, were able to vote at any age? Sounds racist to me. I normally like you, but am rather disappointed on this occasion. Please stick to "punching up" in the future as you guard our freedoms against the forces of fascism, rather than being a part of them yourself.

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    Undocumented can't vote anywhere you retarded dumb fuck.

  • Headache||

    Project much?

  • Finrod||

    New York City disagrees with you, idiot leftist troll, Their Department of Investigations tried 63 times to vote in someone else's name and were successful 61 times. But voting fraud never occurs in your fucked-up Community-Based Reality because you're a fucking moron that wouldn't know the truth if it buggered you six ways from Sunday.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....-john-fund

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    If you like your low bar, you can keep your low bar.

    If you like your private speech, you can keep your speech private.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    1) Obama thinks Google, Facebook, etc., are "a public good as well as a commercial enterprise," and should consider whether they are corroding our democracy.


    I wonder how many petty tyrants said the same about Gutemberg's printing press...

    "[We, Obama I The Handsome and God, will] come back and say, 'well no it just turns out if we just invest in some smart technology and we create a smart regulatory framework that incentivizes investment in clean energy, we can actually solve this problem now, and if we don't it's going to be catastrophic.'"


    It ain't much of an honest debate when you implicitly accuse your opponent of wanting to bring forth a catastrophe, or is it?

    5) Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong[...]


    "And even if it is true, it is still wrong to think it!"

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I'm not going to shame anyone for watching pornography.

  • Griffin3||

  • sharmota4zeb||

    The printing press lead to all sorts of cultural changes. They started producing books in Yiddish (a woman's language at the time). There were romance novels everywhere!

  • Finrod||

    The first book off Gutenberg's press might have been a Bible, but the second book was porn.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    I wish we had an AG with some balls who would put his ass in prison, instead of jerking himself off over pot and prescription opiates. Make me AG and I will put and end to the democrat party as you know it. Given the potential for prison overcrowding, for every filthy progtard I incarcerate, I will release two prisoners convicted of victimless crimes and/or non-crimes )like 'structuring').

    I'm not an attorney, but I consider that a plus.

  • GeneralWeygand||

    I wonder how many petty tyrants said the same about Gutemberg's printing press...

    Who the fuck is Gutemberg?

  • Headache||

  • The_Hoser||

    Do you even Police Academy, bro?

  • Rich||

    I'm not sure what all the secrecy was about

    National Security, DUH!

  • mad_kalak||

    I suspect he knew it would leak out and thus get more press ink when it did.

  • soldiermedic76||

    This. He realizes he is quickly becoming irrelevant. His ego can't take that. He is not capable of simply fading away.

  • soldiermedic76||

    And even if it hadn't leaked, people would be talking about why it was secret. So then his name would be in the press against either way.

  • ||

    Diversity isn't about "charity or political correctness, it's just common sense."

    GodFuckingDamnit No! The *opposite* of this! Diversity is literally about *UN*common sense.

  • DiegoF||

    United Nations common sense? I knew it! Can't bluepill this proud American, tell you that right now.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    Diversity will be what it will be. Like it or not, and despite the rainbow world almost universally depicted in the commercials these days, people tend to gravitate to their own. They broadly share the same cultural background, the same way of communicating, the same general social points of view. Does this mean that people of different races or sexes don't or can't find common ground? Of course not. It just means that "diversity" cannot be imposed. It is and will be the product of societal experience over time. So let it alone to work itself out on the ground.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Well looky there. Obama says crazy shit and there is a leak from a non-anonymous source who actually provide a real recording of what Obama says to confirm the information.

  • Cyto||

    Strange that this didn't really happen for the last 15 years. I've seen a lot of groupthink over my lifetime, and I've seen the press have a pack mentality. But I've never seen anything remotely like the lockstep propaganda machine we've witnessed since his DNC coming out speech.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Our folks were putting in 80-hour work weeks and barely getting vacations and under unimaginable pressure.

    Sounds like a shitty place to work.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Considering the boss was a "from each according to his ability" type, it probably was.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    That's not the bad part of that quote.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    There were a lot of emails to go through.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Hard drives don't destroy themselves.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    This is why the government should not run the economy. The president thought that putting in 80-hour work weeks was something to brag about. In a free market, people brag about outputs, not inputs.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    '80 hour hour work week'............

    I didn't know watching Sportcenter counted as 'work'.

  • Fk_Censorship||

    In all fairness, some people in the free market also focus on the inputs (Wall Street, some executives including one who posted above) - so this "hard work" virtue signaling is also happening in the free market.

  • Emotional Opposition Animal||

    How many hundreds of golf courses did His Historicness play during his administration? How many vacays at Marthas Vineyard? Kind of shitty to do that and leave the peons to work 80 hour weeks.

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    Listen: I believe in free speech, but censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship, censorship.

  • Eidde||

    Note that he drew a contrast, not between Fox News and the New York Times, but between Fox News - all of Fox News - and the NY Times *editorial page.* Because the articles in the NY Times don't raise issues about bias or anything.

  • silver.||

    I noticed that. Fox News ain't great, but the NY Times is just awful. Even liberals know that. And Fox News and AM radio stations are the only mainstream sources of right-wing news. If you're going to complain that media is biased toward right-wingers, do you have any other examples other than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh? CNN was not-awful a decade ago, and they certainly rectified that.

  • soldiermedic76||

    CNN has been terrible for a long time. They have just made it more obvious recently. They were busted in the 1990s faking stories about how AR-15 were stronger than other rifles firing similar Calibre rifles. The edited film to make it appear that the AR had greater peneteating power than similar calibres. This is just one example.

  • Headache||

    It has been down hill since Bernard Shaw left.

  • Finrod||

    Don't forget their political rally disguised as a town hall.

  • MikeP2||

    Fox news is not at all "right wing news". Its mushy mainstream pablum with a slight center right tilt.

    It is only rght wing in the sense that msnbc, cnn, etc, etc have gone so far into virulent tranzi, progressive idiocy that the center seems like a historic novelty

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Pretty much. Fox isn't that far right at all. People like Tony paint it that way because their masters tell them too, and they can't tolerate any dissent to their groupthink.

  • Finrod||

    Fox News has gone from right wing to alt-right wing.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," said the former president. "I know that seems like a low bar."

    Because you had a national media that set up a phalanx around your administration.

  • Rigelsen||

    Indeed, it's easy to avoid being embarrassed by scandal when the vast majority of the media will do their level best to run interference at any hint of such. Remember, boys and girls, the rules of the mainstream media:

    1. Something goes wrong and the government is involved? Find the highest level Republican who can be blamed, then hammer them 24-7. If there is no such Republican, play down the story until it goes away.
    2. A leak embarrassing to Republicans? Run the story 24-7 with a side story of how brave the leaker was to bring this to the light.
    3. A leak embarrassing to Democrats? Make the leaker the story and how they are breaking the law and need to be brought to justice.
    4. A Republican does something embarrassing, even if only embarrassing when out of context? Hammer them 24-7, eliding as much context as necessary to maximize the embarrassment.
    5. A Democrat does something embarrassing? Deflect if possible, as (3), and if not, contextualize and minimize.

    I say Republican and Democrat, but the similar dynamic can play out to a lesser extent with an in-favor Democrat and out-of-favor Democrat too. But then, I understand intellectual honesty is not taught in J-School, so how would they have learnt any better? (Kidding.)

  • Mickey Rat||

    it is a low bar when you have no sense of shame and a bootlicking press corps.

  • BSL1||

    Plenty of scandals, but with no shame, there was no embarrassment on their part. Not something to be proud of.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    it was pretty standard Obama fare, and he never once said the word Trump

    I'm actually impressed by this.

  • Eidde||

    I'm not. He clearly alluded to Trump as the President who (unlike Obama) had embarrassing scandals. And the idea Obama didn't have scandals is risible. Though technically he said he had no scandals "which embarrassed us." Which could be true, depending on his tolerance for potential embarrassment.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Narcissist lack the ability to be embarrassed. I bet Trump would also say he has had no scandals that embarrassed him either. This is a low bar.

  • Emotional Opposition Animal||

    What scandals has Trump had that he should be embarrassed about?

  • soldiermedic76||

    I don't know, maybe the access Hollywood tape. Yeah, it was just guy talk but most people would have been embarrassed to have bragging, bravado like that broadcast. Note I am not accusing him of rape or sexual assault, just that most sane people would have been embarrassed by the publication of a private and rather riske conversation.

  • Paradigm||

    I never placed much stock in the Access Hollywood tape. By the media's logic, pretty much every guy in the world is forever disqualified from running for office. Seriously, who among us hasn't said equivalent things at one time or another? And that was 11 years before the election.

    They only reported on certain Democrats outright harassing of women because it became too big to hide after Weinstein's implosion.

  • Griffin3||

    What difference, at this point, do his scandals make?

  • soldiermedic76||

    This will become theantra if the DoJ IG actually does conclude the Obama administration immorally monitored people associated with the Trump campaign.

  • soldiermedic76||

    *the mantra

  • soldiermedic76||

    *the mantra

  • soldiermedic76||

    Those too.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Obama was outright treasonous. The details still edging from th Iran deal alone shouldn't enough to have him before a firing squad.

  • Fk_Censorship||

    Which details?

  • ConstitutionFirst||

    1.7 billion of them, in cash. Used Bills. On a pallet. Delivered in the dead of night.

    Or Did you not get the memo?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Iran is on the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. At the very least, financially aiding a country on that list is a crime.

    Iran is more of an enemy than Russia. Speculation of Trump and Russia is consider treasonous by the left. But Obama's actual aiding a sponsor of terrorism somehow isn't.

  • SunkCost||

    It was their money. We froze their accounts in 79. They are by all accounts abiding by the agreement, but perhaps you'd prefer another war in the Mideast given how swimmingly the others are going.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Do a little searching for the Iran deal side agreements. Of note are allowances for Iran to greatly upgrade their uranium enrichment capability. Among other things.

  • Paradigm||

    And a 2011 international court decision declared the debt to Iran null and void. It was owed to the Shah, not the Ayatollahs.

    Obama just sympathizes with Muslim extremists because he doesn't think it's fair for Israel and the US to have nukes and the poor Iranians don't. It's another of his obsolete leftist viewpoints that the West is the cause of all evil in the world.

    I never really cared much if Obamacare was a Muslim himself. I think he worships government. But, how would our foreign policy during his administration look any different if he was Muslim? You don't make mafia style under-the-table cash payments to Iran if you love freedom.

  • Paradigm||

    Obamacare? Damn predictive text.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    No, that's not surprising. He'd have to stop talking about himself to mention Trump.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    5) Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong.

    Working in the white house is way different than working at the DMV. I don't have to interact with or receive any permits from people at the whitehouse. I do, on the other hand, have to interact with people at the DMV. Get out of the bubble, Mr. Obama.

  • Fairbanks||

    Exactly. When people talk about the workload (and productivity) of public sector employees they're not referring to the Cabinet.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Obama's true calling was to be an assistant professor at a somewhat disreputable community college where he is brushed off by coeds and disrespected by his colleagues. All while spouting his Marxist drivel. Doomed to obscurity.

  • GILMORE™||

    The idea that people in the private sector work harder than the feds is a misperception, said Obama.

    "At least at the top levels of the federal government, people work harder than in the private sector," he [sic] Obama

    This is sort of a typical example of "deflecting the real charge, and defending against a charge no one is actually making"

    its not about "working harder".

    I don't care how many hours you spend at your desk, or how little sleep you get at night.

    Its that your labor largely is in service to nothing but finding new-ways to fuck the private productive sector (and everyone else) in the ass. Congratulations! Your tireless labor contributed smuggling weapons to Syria/Mexican gangs, or denying 503c tax-status to conservative groups, or how to spin journalists into making "pallets of money shipped to Iran" somehow sound less slimy than it really was.

    Frankly, i'd wish you simply surfed the web all day, and played golf on Friday. Everyone would be better off.

    If he wasn't "embarrassed" by the healthcare.gov implosion, the clumsy benghazi coverup, or the fact that he not only failed to "end" any of the ongoing military conflicts... but managed to stick america's dick in at least 1 new one? i'm not sure hubris of that scale is something to brag about.

  • Eidde||

    It reminds me of a line in Dilbert - "I haven't listened to a single complaint."

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    He wasn't embarrassed by those scandals because anything that gets picked up by Glenn Beck or whatever other boilerplate conservative site can immediately be written off as a conspiracy theory. It essentially gets the establishment media off the hook.

    "Glenn Beck said what?"

    *waves hand dismissively*

    "Not even going to bother to cover it"

    Unfortunately, it's one of the downsides of having a highly partisan media, and everyone can be guilty of it. If the New York Times reports it, it's not automatically bullshit merely because it appears in the Times, any more than it being bullshit because Fox News carried it.

  • GILMORE™||

    I think his POV was more like:

    "As long as I don't pull a Bill Clinton and spooge all over an intern, then get caught on camera being sanctimonious and waving my finger like, "I never actually put my wang in her"....I'm pretty much set as far as "political scandal" goes. And hell, the public even mostly forgave Clinton for that mess.""

    IOW, the bar for "scandal", as far as he was concerned, was 'shit that the media can't spin away'. Fortunately for him the media was like his own personal pressure-washer bidet.

    You notice how he *always mentions* this, "My admin was scandal free!" thing? every time he speaks? He's been ringing this bell now for over a year.

    If it were actually *true*, he wouldn't need to say it so often.

    its sort of like how, "You can never describe yourself as "beautiful, intelligent, or honest" - those are all things other people need to tell you"?

    Similarly, ex-presidents aren't allowed to be the historians of their own administration's 'scandal' legacy.

  • ||

    Or he's just framing it in a way that makes any talk of his scandals be an easy target for 'fake news'.

    Inept Benghazi response? Fake news.
    Fast & Furious? Fake news.
    Spying on Americans? Fake news.
    Obamacare rollout disaster? Fake news.
    Bombing other countries and droning Americans without due process? Fake news.
    Shady deal with Iran? Fake news.

  • Mickey Rat||

    He did not feel any embarrassment over those things.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    4) Diversity isn't about "charity or political correctness, it's just common sense." And it's why his White House was scandal-free, according to the president.

    50 Obama White House Scandals, GO:

    I'll start:
    1.Cash for Clunkers
    2.Fast and Furious
    3.Killing Republican-owned car dealerships
    4. Killing Pontiac
    5. Killing SAAB
    6. Interfering in Israeli elections
    7. Phone and Pen
    8. "If you like your Doctor ..."
    9. Not doing shit while the Donks controlled both houses of Congress
    10. DWS IT policy. "Hard Drive? What Hard Drive?"

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    Leo Kovalensky II|2.26.18 @ 8:09PM|#

    Fast and Furious
    Benghazi
    Spying on journalists
    IRS targeting political opponents
    Pallets of cash to Iran
    Solyndra
    Drone striking American citizens

    You're proud of all of these things Mr. President?

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    18.CAFE expansion
    19. Jeh Johnson - says the removal of Confederate monuments and statues is a matter of "public safety and homeland security."
    20. "Red Line in the Sand"

  • Penny_Worth||

    21. The 'treatment' Cliven Bundy received from the EPA.
    22. Little Sisters of the Poor vs. Obamacare mandate
    23. Signing 'Obama-care' after Nancy Pelosi spoke from both sides of her mouth on it, famously saying "We have to pass the bill in order to find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy." and in tweets later: "Americans deserve to know"

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Iran deal and all its side deals.

    Supporting the lawfully ousted elated of Honduras in 2009, even though he was a devout communist unconstitutionally attempting a coup to make himself president of Honduras for life.

    Flying the Red Chinese flag over the White House in 2009.

    The substantial presence of Muslim Brotherhood members and their surrogates in the White House.

  • Paradigm||

    24. Flag.gov
    26. Truth teams (said in stereotype 1930s German accent)
    27. Letting the new Black Panthers off the hook for voter intimidation, because Eric Holder and Thomas Perez said voter protection isn't for white people.
    28. Tree bark soup and mulch burgers in school lunches thanks to Michelle Obama
    29. Horseshit about the n-word being shouted at John Lewis during the Obamacare rallies. Lewis has been living off his civil rights head bump for half a century.
    30. Throwing Dinesh D'Souza in jail for doing what Democrats do all the time
    31. Obama's "composite" girlfriend in his book
    32. Lying about not being directly involved with Joe Soptic in 2012, when there is a recording of Stephanie Cutter on a conference call with Soptic. This was a violation of campaign laws.
    33. The Obamas' spending some $80 million on personal travel.

  • Paradigm||

    34. Voting districts where Obama won 100% of the ballot in 2012

  • Paradigm||

    35. Taking down ITT technical institute and leaving 35,000 students with non-transferable hours, because it's not a marxist sewer like Obama's favored universities.

  • Paradigm||

    36. Transferring $780 billion out of Medicare into Obamacare, then sitting silent as his party accused the Republicans of stealing from Grandma.

  • Paradigm||

    37. Giving Queen Elizabeth an iPod containing recordings of his speeches

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    11. Solyndra

  • Microaggressor||

    "We set up policies that if you had a child, you had a parent teacher conference, you had the things that needed to be done to raise someone, that was part of the deal," he said. "The private sector has to step up because it's smart business. The data shows it."

    Good to see he's come around to understanding that they don't need to be forced to do something that's in their own interest, then. Right? Stop laughing.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    LOL. As a revolutionary Marxist I'm actually enjoying the tumult of the Trump administration. For someone that wants to break the back of American hegemony and militarism Trump is way better.

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    That's the one good thing about the destruction of the earth: no more USA!

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    Those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes when the ocean boils, eh, comrade? Eh?!

  • Rat on a train||

    We still have the moon, though we may be mistaken for the French. There is also V'Ger.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Jesus will save us! He shows up periodically in his time machine to stop things like alien invasions, cataclysmic disasters, and Hillary Clinton.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    As a revolutionary Marxist

    I bet your dorm mates are sick of your messy side of the room.

  • John C. Randolph||

    And the way he never buys the beer.

    -jcr

  • Elias Fakaname||

    As a revolutionary Marxist, you should be imorisones and then executed for treason. Really.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    'Impisoned'.

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    "You and I can have an argument about climate change in which you conclude, 'we're not going to stop the Chinese and the Indians from burning a bunch of coal, it's gone on for a pretty long time, we're just going to have to adapt, and maybe we'll invent some new energy source in the nick of time, and that's why I'm opposed to the Paris Accords,'" said Obama. "I'll come back and say, 'well no it just turns out if we just invest in some smart technology and we create a smart regulatory framework that incentivizes investment in clean energy, we can actually solve this problem now, and if we don't it's going to be catastrophic.'"

    So he's willing to debate as long as he is the finder of fact. Sounds fair to me.
    Seriously, I've been telling anyone who'll listen for 8+ years that this guy is not very bright. He was an unexceptional Illinois politician, an unexceptional US senator and an unexceptional president. I actually had hope that, despite his intellectual deficits, he might accidentally do some good on issues like the WOD, foreign policy and the police state. Silly me.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Seriously, I've been telling anyone who'll listen for 8+ years that this guy is not very bright. He was an unexceptional Illinois politician, an unexceptional US senator and an unexceptional president.

    He reminds me of Kennedy more and more every day.

  • Juice||

    Reminds me of a bumper sticker that was going around right after Obama was elected in 2008. It just had a picture of Obama and the words "You're going to be very disappointed."

  • soldiermedic76||

    For all the mistakes Bush made, he is a much better former President than his successor has proven to be.

  • Emotional Opposition Animal||

    His successor has never been a former President.

  • Cloudbuster||

    You keep working on that reading program! You can do it!

  • ||

    He's remarkably remedial.

  • ||

    "Americans have segregated themselves into two "entirely different realities"

    And then he chimes in with...

    "It's okay to argue about how we should address climate change. It's not okay to deny the underlying science."

    to keep things ideologically separated.

    He's just not bright. Period.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're a pea-brained Canuck dumb as a hockey puck.

  • ||

    Still smarter than you and Obama combined!

  • John C. Randolph||

    this guy is not very bright

    But surely only a genius could get a Nobel peace prize for fuck-all.

    -jcr

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    He probably holds the record for most deaths cause by a Nobel peace prize winner.

    A Nobel peace prize winner that is signing off on drone strikes should be a scandal.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    The most obnoxious part of this statement is the question-begging and lying by omission. The fuck do we need to sign on to the Paris Accords for in order to invest in clean technologies if they're so fucking awesome? Elon Musk is building rockets at about 10% the cost of what the government is building similar models for, why not enlist him to develop a solar/wind network? We're already giving him a bunch of subsidies anyway, what's a few more if he can get it done at 10% of the actual cost?

    The truth is that the Paris Accords were a massive wealth-distribution scheme from the First World to the Third World, using globalcorps banks like Goldman Sachs to facilitate the loans, and including the world's worst polluters in India and China in the "developing nations" matrix with no enforcement measures. New Delhi's and Beijing's smog is so thick you have to wear a goddman gas mask to walk the streets (if you're not dodging the mass of human waste because people just drop trou and take a shit in the street San Francisco bum-style), yet they've had a First World economy for decades. I guarantee that not even 1% of the people who were crying about Trump pulling the US out of the accords have even read them, nor the individual nation statements that were submitted. I have, and they're laughable, a global managerialist wank-fest that's going to be a miserable failure.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Umm, Musk is Solar City, and it's drowning in red ink in spite of all the government subsidies. No, let's not give him anymore, thank you very much.

  • Nardz||

    This.
    The Paris Agreement = ponzi scheme, embezzlement, money laundering, whatever you want to call it
    Even at face value, it was an obvious scam.
    "Let's set the US carbon count at 10 and the count for Madagascar at 5. Oh, US produced 12 and Madagascar only produced 3? Cool, let's just funnel some money their way and it's all good. By the way, administrative costs of the transfer are 80%, which we'll split amongst ourselves."

  • Elias Fakaname||

    I would love to debate Obama's on just about any subject if he does not have the benefit of a Teleprompter. I could destroy him 10/10 times. He isn't very bright, and he isn't a good debater. I beat people in high school that were better debaters.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    In his remarks, Obama expressed concern that Americans have segregated themselves into two "entirely different realities" where not just opinions but basic facts are in dispute,

    Yes, sometime in the past 100 years, Americans started disagreeing on certain facts such as:

    Global Warming

    Homosexuality being a mental illness

    The intellectual potential of African-Americans

    The intellectual potential of immigrants from Southern Europe and Eastern Europe

    Except for Global Warming, all of these examples are "facts" that started off with an expert consensus on one side followed by much debate and a change of opinion. We've always been debating facts.

  • soldiermedic76||

    The idea that facts can't be debated is one of the least educated, least scientific ideas I have ever heard. The very underpinning of science and philosophy is the idea that facts are debated and tested. This leads to greater understanding and truth. As a scientist I cringe whenever someone says the debate is over and you can't debate facts. Even mathematics debate "facts".

  • soldiermedic76||

    Mathematicians. Hate autocorrect. It changes correct words, but doesn't correct mistakes

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    OK, what does your model predict?

    Don't bother. I know you don't have one. So you are not qualified on the subject.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Model of w? If we are talking about the impact of lactic acid bacteria and exogenous fibrolytic enzymes on the ensiling characteristics on corn and alfalfa silage I am qualified ntp discuss that model. Climate change, less so. However, it is not a scientific statement to say the debate is over. Science is all about debating, if your hypothesis cannot stand logical debate then you must reevaluate your hypothesis. Answering questions is how you refine a theory.
    Physicist even continue to debate Einstein's theory of relativity. This leads to a better understanding of the theory and greater refinement.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    So, you aren't qualified. You guys point to a couple of scientists on the fringes of the subject as authorities. That doesn't mean they should be ignored, but it also means they are probably wrong. There are all kinds of nuts in academia so isn't it possible that Richard Lindzen or the handful of scientists who think global climate change is no big deal are just fruitcakes or, more likely, enjoying the adulation of right-wing demagogues?

    I've watched Richard Lindsey's presentations, have a background in statistics and data analysis and I found his data set and analysis utterly unconvincing.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Lindzen's predictions have been much more accurate than Hansen's or any in the CMIP3/5 set. You have appeal to authority, I have the satellite data. One is science, but I'm sure you can't figure out which.

  • soldiermedic76||

    What strawman are you arguing there? Did I mention anthropogenic climate change? Did I try and disprove it? Or argue the models and experts in the field are wrong? Well Skippy, did I? Fuck, try arguing against what I actually said, rather than the voices in your head.

  • soldiermedic76||

    And I think I made a point that I am not a climate change expert. Nor did I ever try and contradictory the findings of the experts. However, I reject the idea that I science the debate is ever over. And, I know very few scientist who would ever agree to the statement the debate is over. Only advocates use that fucked up phrase. It has no relevance to actual scientist. That is what an orthodox fundamentalist would say, not a scientist.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Fuck, I hate my phone and o hate Reason doesn't allow you to edit mistakes ones they're posted. It allows asshole to attack spelling and type errors rather than the point you actually made.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Contradict not contradictory (why the fuck my phone changed it I am not certain).

  • soldiermedic76||

    Sorry notanotherskippy. I didn't aim those remarks at you. They were in response to buttplug and Stalin. I was calling them Skippy as an insult, and hadn't realized I posted after you. I am not familiar enough, not qualified enough to dispute nor support Lindzen's work.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    "I was calling them Skippy as an insult"

    Perhaps someone has finally figured out the origin of my nick...

  • soldiermedic76||

    Model of what? If we are talking ruminant nutrition, I am more than qualified. This may be more than you can grasp, but scientist specialize. We aren't generalist. And debate is necessary to science. It is how we strengthen our understanding. For example, questioning Einstein led to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. This didn't disprove relativity, but it improved our understanding of physics.
    If you can't allow debate, it isn't science, but rather dogma.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    What is your climate model? I know you don't have one so your denial is purely based on politics. That is Okay as long as we know HOW you arrived at your position.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    The original (revised) Arrhenius model. Don't know what that is? I'm not surprised. It's based on basic radiative physics, which no one really disputes because it can actually be demonstrated in the lab. ECS is about 1.5C/doubling. That makes temperature a logarithmic function of CO2 concentrations, but given that your math skills make poor little Jethro Bodine look brilliant, I'm sure you don't understand WHY the sensitivity scales that way.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Did I ever deny the climate models? If so where?

  • soldiermedic76||

    Again this is in response to Buttplug's strawman.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB, I'll make it simple for your dull little mind. The sun is underweighted in the climate models you cling to irrationally, and CO2 is overstated. Yes, it's much more complex than that, but I'm making it simple for the sake of discussion. Plus you're not worth a whole lot of typing.

    Of course, since solar activity can't be taxed and regulated as a means of plunder and oppression, that kind of math will be ignored by the progressive orthodoxy.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    Yeah, because Heisenberg was a physicist. You aren't a climatologist.

    I'm not saying you don't have a right to say that increases in CO2 concentration won't affect global temperature just that you don't have any background in the subject so people should evaluate your statements on the matter as a guess taken by someone who is not dispassionately evaluating the data.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Did I ever say CO2 doesn't impact the climate? Did I ever say man is not a factor in climate change. You two are arguing strawmen right now. I simply made the point that making the statement the debate is over is unscientific. You may understand statistics (so do I) but reading comprehension seems to be difficult for you. I never once tried to demonstrate that the climate change models are not accurate, nor did I ever claim CO2 is not contributing to climate change. But it is easier (and intellectually lazy) to argue a strawman rather than try to understand the point I actually made. Fuck, in your attempt to sound intellectually superior to me, you just made fools of yourselves.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Did I ever say CO2 doesn't impact the climate? Did I ever say man is not a factor in climate change. You two are arguing strawmen right now. I simply made the point that making the statement the debate is over is unscientific. You may understand statistics (so do I) but reading comprehension seems to be difficult for you. I never once tried to demonstrate that the climate change models are not accurate, nor did I ever claim CO2 is not contributing to climate change. But it is easier (and intellectually lazy) to argue a strawman rather than try to understand the point I actually made. Fuck, in your attempt to sound intellectually superior to me, you just made fools of yourselves.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    And since you have no expertise in the field, then by your own standard you are guessing that the "experts" are correct.

    And just for fun, how did we ever uncover Maxwell's equations before we had all of these credentialed institutions? It's almost as if the process is what matters and not the letters after one's name...

  • soldiermedic76||

    This. The process is always most important. I cannot judge if the experts are right or not, not having a strong enough background in the field. However, I recognize that they do have more knowledge, and until someone can credibly demonstrate their process is flawed, I am not qualified to dispute them. I would feel the same way if they tried to argue the nitrogen recycling process of ruminants with me.

  • soldiermedic76||

    However, I would also never impune someone who disputed their findings, especially if they did have the necessary knowledge.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Nor would I ever try and shut down the debate. Because it is necessary to have the debate. Contrary views often contribute to better understanding, more refined theories. Sometimes the questions lead us to reject a long held theory too. New evidence must always be examined, science is never static, but must remain kinetic. And no matter how refined our models become (no matter what the subject) they will always be chaos and randomness that play a factor. There will always be room for more refinement.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Ridley said it best:

    Besides, science does not respect consensus. There was once widespread agreement about phlogiston (a nonexistent element said to be a crucial part of combustion), eugenics, the impossibility of continental drift, the idea that genes were made of protein (not DNA) and stomach ulcers were caused by stress, and so forth—all of which proved false. Science, Richard Feyman once said, is "the belief in the ignorance of experts.

    My friend objected that I seemed to follow the herd on matters like the reality of evolution and the safety of genetically modified crops, so why not on climate change? Ah, said I, but I don't. I agree with the majority view on evolution, not because it is a majority view but because I have looked at evidence. It's the data that convince me, not the existence of a consensus.

    My friend said that I could not possibly have had time to check all the evidence for and against evolution, so I must be taking others' words for it. No, I said, I take on trust others' word that their facts are correct, but I judge their interpretations myself, with no thought as to how popular they are. (Much as I admire Charles Darwin, I get fidgety when his fans start implying he is infallible. If I want infallibility, I will join the Catholic Church.)
  • Elias Fakaname||

    I don't trust the 'experts', given how corrupted and politicized climatology finding has become.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    "For example, questioning Einstein led to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle."

    No, it didn't. There were a whole range of other questions that gave rise to QM. If any one thing was the trigger, I would have to say the UV catastrophe. And Einstein's Nobel for the photoelectric effect certainly did play a role.

  • soldiermedic76||

    This could well be true. My point was that debate is necessary for science.

  • silver.||

    I don't have a model. My heat transfer professor did tell us if we could predict the temperature of a cup of coffee after 2 days to within a certain range, we'd instantly pass the hardest class of our major. His take was that the number of variables involved with any type of meteorological calculation makes it impossible to accurately compute the weather a week out. Even 5 days out the resolution has to be massively reduced.

    Of course, a lot of the models are utilizing extrapolation of historical data, and it's obvious that we're experiencing global warming, but to claim that one can accurately infer the future temperatures to any degree of accuracy is hubris. It most likely will continue to increase as we exit the ice age. The question is the rate at which it will change, and determining that answer is just as difficult as predicting the economy.

    That said, I don't see any reason why we can't invest in renewables anyway. I think there's a compelling economic reason to use power that is inexpensive to produce and doesn't pollute shit. I just don't want my government to subsidize it.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    We never left the ice age. We are in an interglacial period. "Normal" Earth does not have ice at its poles. That is a recent phenomenon and one that should be a bit disturbing given that the Sun has actually gotten brighter over its lifetime (and will continue to do so). We are at the end of the historical length of interglacials and each warming peak from the HCO (about 8kyr bp) has been lower than its predecessor. We are getting colder.

  • silver.||

    Do you have any good resources where I can read about this further?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Not extensive reading, but here and here are a couple of reconstructions which show what I'm talking about. An example of one of the reference papers would be Alley, 2000 but it is paywalled.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB, you aren't qualified to discuss a goddamn thing. But that never see,s to stop your stupid, ignorant ass from butting in.

  • MikeP2||

    Facts aren not debated.

    Theories are debated. Interpretation of facts are debated.

    We have a problem of scientifically ignorant people who cant tell the difference between a fact and an interpretation of a fact.

    Agw is a fuckin theory. Climate change is a fuckin political meme. Neither of these is a fuckin fact mr president, you ignorant hack.

  • soldiermedic76||

    I don't think you understand what a theory is. A theory is something that has undergone rigorous, repeated testing. It is not a guess. And yes, facts can be debated. Facts change as out understanding becomes better.

  • ||

    What is usually debated about facts is a) how they were collected and b) what they represent.

  • MikeP2||

    Those are not facts. Not even close. They are barely even theories.

    we debate theories all the time. We dont debate facts....only the interpretation of the facts.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Then please tell us what a fact is? Because, the idea of perfect truth exists, but as far as I know, no one has ever discovered it. Facts evolve as knowledge grows.

  • soldiermedic76||

    For a better understanding of this, I recommend Terrible Pratchett's the science of discworld. It actually explains fairly well that facts evolve as our understanding evolves. Facts are not a static thing.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Terry why did it change that to terrible?

  • Brett Bellmore||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," he said."

    So, confirmed, he IS shameless. Note that he's not denying he had scandals. He just wasn't embarrassed at any of them.

  • Butler T. Reynolds||

    "Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong."

    Evidence that Obama gets special treatment.

  • Johnny B||

    "Our folks were putting in 80-hour work weeks and barely getting vacations and under unimaginable pressure."

    Yes. It is so difficult thinking up new ways to spend other people's money. It's much easier when you have a budget constraint: don't spend more than you can pay back.

  • LynchPin1477||

    "What's also true is that our social media platforms are just a tool," he said. "ISIS can use that tool. Neo-Nazis can use that tool.

    media giants like Facebook and Google should keep in mind that the U.S. government has a role to play in ensuring there are "basic rules of the road in place that create level playing fields."

    If ISIS and Neo-Nazis are permitted to use those tools, doesn't that imply that the playing field is already radically level?

  • soldiermedic76||

    But, but Trump won. And everyone knows it was Hillary's turn.

  • Moo Sharpton||

    Uh...the NBA has had a junior league since 2001.

  • Arcxjo||

    Obama don't know nuthin' 'bout no G things.

  • Scotty Gunn||

    Hey, he was the first Muslim president and the first gay president. There's that going for him.

  • Jordan||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," said the former president. "I know that seems like a low bar."

    Yeah, you weren't even embarrassed when your Director of National Intelligence purjered himself before Congress.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," said the former president. "I know that seems like a low bar."

    Of course. Nothing embarrasses a Marxist. They have no shame in their grasping at power. It's all they believe in.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're a fucking idiot.

    Noting that "the world is more prosperous than ever before and yet our societies are marked by uncertainty and unease," the president wrote that, "it is important to remember that capitalism has been the greatest driver of prosperity and opportunity the world has ever seen."

    https://goo.gl/yemqhu

    I know. Warren Buffett is a Marxist too. So is Bill Gates. Only Republicans are true capitalists.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Obama is also a huge fucking liar. Even according to his church reverend.

  • Finrod||

    Fuck off, slaver.

  • Fairbanks||

    The guy who said I could keep my health plan is worried about fake news.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I kept mine. If you hadn't gone on Medicaid/ACA you could have kept yours too.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Wrong. Many people lost their plan because it didn't meet the criteria that the overlords demanded. Even though they were happy with their plans.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Troll = not a TEAM RED! asshole.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Over a hundred million people DID keep their plan since they were compliant with the law.

  • soldiermedic76||

    But that isn't the same as no one losing their plan like he stated. And why should the government ever force them to lose a plan because it 'wasn't compliant'?

  • Fk_Censorship||

    I lost mine. I was self employed and paying about 100-some dollars for a catastrophic plan. It was unilaterally stopped (I think Jan 1, 2014 or 2015).

  • DesigNate||

    Go fuck yourself, demfag.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Millions of people like me lost their private plans, in favor of inferior ACA plans at what is now nearly 400% of the cost of my superior private policy.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    In retrospect, PB should offer to have his organs harvested in their entirety p, and the proceeds used as a supplement for me in exchange for buying the shitty Obamacare product. We can keep a higher profit margin if we skip the anasthetic.

  • reason1984||

    'Scandal-Free?'

    Start with Fast & Furious and work your way forward.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Fast and Furious
    Benghazi
    Spying on journalists
    IRS targeting political opponents
    Pallets of cash to Iran
    Solyndra
    Drone striking American citizens

    You're proud of all of these things Mr. President?

  • fiddlefaddle||

    EXACTLY!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    All wingnut CT.

    Fast and Furious (gunrunning) predated Obama.
    Benghazi was a made up bullshit fake scandal BECAUSE SUSAN RICE LIED!!!!
    IRS was Lois Lerner acting alone
    Pallets of cash was the US paying off a late 70s debt for undelivered airplanes and was settled down
    Solyndra was a puny $500 stimulus investment that lost money among many that earned money
    Yes, he droned an enemy combatant Al Qaeda jackass citizen - no scandal at all.

    I see the pea-brained Rufus choked out a BENGHAZI!!!! DERP!!! too.

    Despite Boy Howdy's long witch hunt nothing was ever found on Benghazi.

    Now Mueller and a special prosecutor? Watch out for that you GOP partisans.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Fuck off, Tony.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    Fuck You, Weigle.

    http://bit.ly/2HOzLIb

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB every one of your responses was utter bullshit. Not a bit accurate. You should commit suicide .

  • Finrod||

    I'd like to see him fed feet first into a running woodchipper. He'd make better mulch than he does a man.

  • Paradigm||

    > Fast and Furious (gunrunning) predated Obama. Wrong. The plan the predated Obama didn't even resemble the plan that led to 200+ Mexicans being killed

    > Benghazi was a made up bullshit fake scandal BECAUSE SUSAN RICE LIED!!!! Yet you provide no sources to refute that.

    > IRS was Lois Lerner acting alone. Uh huh. Then why the plethora of simultaneous hard drive "failures."

    > Pallets of cash was the US paying off a late 70s debt for undelivered airplanes and was settled down. Dead wrong. A court decision in 2011 determined that the debt was owed to the Shah, and was null and void after the Ayatollahs took over.

    > Solyndra was a puny $500 stimulus investment that lost money among many that earned money. You're conveniently leaving out BrightSource and the rest of the $80+ billion wasted on green energy crony capitalism.

    > Yes, he droned an enemy combatant Al Qaeda jackass citizen - no scandal at all. If Trump did that you sure as hell wouldn't think so.

    You're a sideshow freak

  • Mark22||

    In his remarks, Obama expressed concern that Americans have segregated themselves into two "entirely different realities" where not just opinions but basic facts are in dispute,

    Yeah, and you, Mr. Obama, are firmly in the fact-free, authoritarian, delusional camp.

    claimed to have left office without a major "embarrassing" scandal

    Your failure to embarrassed by your performance makes your presidency even more embarrassing.

    and proved that he really loves basketball.

    I have no doubt you do.

  • ||

    The Prohibition against reporting was nothing but a ploy o gain interest.

  • silver.||

    Indeed. If they wanted to restrict access to this speech, they absolutely could. NDAs out the wazoo.

    Totally a PR move.

  • fiddlefaddle||

    We didn't have a scandal?? Well what the he!! was Benghazi?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Made up bullshit.

    The "scandal" was that Susan Rice misinformed the media the day after the attack.

    Big fucking deal.

  • John C. Randolph||

    misinformed the media

    You misspelled "lied to try to bury a colossal fuck-up that cost American lies".

    -jcr

  • Jujucat||

    Glad you caught Palin's horrific misspelling, but you misspelled "lives"... ;)

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Hillary was lying too. It was in her email on that illegal private server.

    Of course it doesn't matter does it cunt? You will NEVER hold a progressive accountable for anything,will you? Evil piece of shit.

  • ||

    "some smart technology and we create a smart regulatory framework"

    "The private sector has to step up because it's smart business."

    What is it with lefties and their 'smart' horse shit? It's the same crap here. I can't tell you how many times some jerk off left-winger tells me how to do my business on the radio or TV because what they tell you is 'smart for business'. This from a bunch of know-nothings who never ran a fricken chewing gum stand. Twits.

    Define 'smart'.

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us,"

    A more insufferable, arrogant, and clearly inaccurate he could not conceive. Well, he did with 'you didn't build that' and 'police acted stupidly' and 'you can keep your doctor' and 'bitter clingers'. Such a uniter. If he could united any harder America would be one nation under Jesus.

    "At least at the top levels of the federal government, people work harder than in the private sector,"

    Like he would know given he has very little experience with the private sector. If he were in the private sector, this guy hits middle management and stagnates there. He got move up in politics because weasels and half-wits can make a living at it and he sure managed to get up that ladder.

    Obama: Not gone enough.

    Poll question of the day: Who's more of a twittish, puerile, empty suit: Obama or Trudeau?

  • silver.||

    I really don't even think Obama made it up the political ladder because of any personal ability to weasel. He's absolutely a puppet.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You dumbass conservatives ARE bitter-clingers. How is telling the truth a scandal?

    Look at you fucking bitter idiots - you're all bitter because the world is changing, the Bible is a fucking hoax, white people are becoming the minority, and you are all bigots who resent the change. So conservatives cling to their guns and Bible like a lost tribe of atavistic morons.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Truth hurts.

    Conservatives are as stupid as progressives are.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    And you conservatives are too stupid to argue with me since I always argue from a free trade capitalistic and rational/atheist POV.

    Remember Hayek thought conservatives were slow-witted morons. Read his essay sometime.

  • DesigNate||

    You do no such thing you slimy piece of shit. Why don't you go slobber on Obama's cock some more, demfag.

    Oh, and pay your fucking bet.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Nothing says free market like barrycare and progressive taxation. Good news! Tax day is nearing and I've got a big wad to send in to support you for another year!

  • Mark22||

    And you conservatives are too stupid to argue with me since I always argue from a free trade capitalistic and rational/atheist POV.

    Actually, you argue from a stinky dark POV where the sun don't shine. You say so yourself.

  • Finrod||

    You lie like a rug, fucking slaver,

  • ||

    lol.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB I look forward to the eventual civil war in which we slaughter you progtards and wipe you off the fucking map forever. I can only hope that your end is as agonizing as you deserve.

  • mitalumn||

    a bit less proud of being a sloan alumna

  • BradA||

    "It's not okay to deny the underlying science."
    Kind of ironic given that MIT Professor of Atmospheric Physics Lindzen has been doing just that with his research. Granted there are others with opposing views but such declarations about what's "not okay" are more suited to religion than science.

  • Tony||

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Obama thinks Google, Facebook, etc., are "a public good as well as a commercial enterprise,

    What is controversial about this?

    These are networks open to anyone that are PRIVATELY OWNED.

    BFD. Water is wet.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Yeah, the son of a bitch wasn't embarrassed at all to usurp the power to blow up American citizens in drone strikes in countries against which there was no declaration of war, including a minor, without so much as an indictment, let alone a conviction for a capital crime.

    -jcr

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    So let the authorities in Yemen bring charges.

    That Al Qaeda jackass had no Constitutional rights in Yemen. Had he been in the USA he would have standing.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    My objection to Gitmo is that the Bushpigs tortured there - not that it existed.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    No one was ever tortured you fuckmg red diaper baby piece of shit. You should be tortured though, so you learn the difference.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    When are you libertarians going to start talking about how it's still open under Trump and how he has talked about refilling it? I haven't heard you freedom lovers talk about that since Trump. Why is that, anyway?

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    When are you libertarians going to start talking about how that concentration camp is still open under Trump or the fact that Dear Leader has talked about refilling it. I haven't seen you freedom lovers talk about Guantanamo since, oh, January 20, 2017. BTW, The number of inmates at that disgraceful place dropped from hundreds to a few dozen under Obama.

  • Texasmotiv||

    Credit where credit is due, this is one of the few things I think Obama did right.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    I'm happy to close it. Just execute the detainees and be done with it. Although you should join them right before that.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Let me explain something you, pinhead: the US constitution is binding upon all American government employees, at all times, in all places. As inconvenient as it might be for the thugs, it remains the entirety of the legal basis for the government's existence.

    -jcr

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB is a communist. The rule of law and the constitution are just things to be used as weapons until they no mover serve a purpose. He has no soul, no decency, and no principles. As a country we should resolve to round up and dispose of every one o f them.

  • Mus||

    The lack of honor and dishonesty by whoever recorded the session and the disrespect shown by Reasons for actually publishing it is sad. One of the conditions for being allowed to attend was to not record and I hate that you people did!

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    I thought you progs loved transparency!

  • silver.||

    Only when it's transparency being sold to them by their preferred media outlets. Then you know for sure that everything being exposed is a bombshell scandal and everything being glossed over is sensationalist nonsense. It's a lot of work to wade through all that information to discover the truth for ourselves.

  • DesigNate||

    Can't tell if serious...

  • ||

    Oh no! Obama doesn't get the same media "circle the wagons to protect him" coverage as when he was in office? *gasp*

  • ProgRejectionSyndrome||

    Go away. Enjoy your privileged life in privacy. Can't imagibe trump will shit up either.

  • Stan Duppe||

    Mr. Obama, it is much easier "not to have a scandal" when the media ignores every falsehood you utter, pretends not to see when you bow to foreign kings, is oblivious to your insults to the flag and to Christianity, and praises your divisiveness in the name of "diversity". And you assume too much by your blithe admonishment not to "deny the science" of alleged "climate change". The "science" itself is dubious. You did more damage to the USA than any of its enemies ever have. Please stop it.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Obama shouldn't be celebrated, he should be prosecuted.

  • Sneazon||

    Off the record because there is a tradition of courtesy regarding not weighing in on issues that might undermine the current president. Unfortunately, being able to string together a few coherent sentences reminds people of the difference between Obama and the current office seat warmer. As Grover Norquist said regarding the ideal Republican president: "Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it."

  • Sneazon||

    Off the record because there is a tradition of courtesy regarding not weighing in on issues that might undermine the current president. Unfortunately, being able to string together a few coherent sentences reminds people of the difference between Obama and the current office seat warmer. As Grover Norquist said regarding the ideal Republican president: "Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it."

  • Samshile||

    Ya, hes a rhetorical Marxist guru with the abiltiy to stuff 100 straw men into a speech.
    Succinct is not a word Obamao studied in vocabulary building.

  • Samshile||

    "ISIS can use that tool. Neo-Nazis can use that too"
    Looks like he left out: Liberal Fascists and Cultural Marxists. Puzzling.

  • Florida Prophet||

    The friggin' ONLY thing I found a departure from boilerplate obama in this hour-long rant (to which I did not listen but merely read the summary contained in this article)?

    He called it ISIS -- not ISIL.

  • hughglass||

    "The data shows it."
    The way lies fly out of his mouth is astonishing Truly, America's Goebbels..

  • BSL1||

    Data is plural.

  • kong||

    obana, bashing away at the straw-man army he creates !... and look, he wins every battle against the straw men.
    Tedious rhetoric at best.
    I was thaught the straw man device was the laziest of all rhetoric tools of debate- it's so easy to spot... and mainly Obama over uses the device, exclusively because no one ever challenged him.
    without doubt, Obama was the most cynical President this nation has ever had. fdr use to be the king of cynicism-- at least fdr was smiling a lot, Obama is a total phony.

  • kong||

    I wonder if Obama took his payment for the speech-- which is obama's job now, giving speeches for money-- as a donation to his tax exempt charty- as opposed to money that is taxable income ?
    the Clinton's were masters of cheating the citizens' Treasury out of paying "their fair share" ... while having the tax exempt Foundation
    cover the lifestyle of the beneficial owner of the Foundation.
    charity reform for the 21st century !
    end the tax exempt scams of former politicians.

  • Guy Gadbois||

    The danger to the US was not Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like Obama to an office. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of Obama than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved citizenry willing to have such a man as their President.

    The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails the US. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

    The US may survive an Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their .

    His sycophants are still out there.

  • Nardz||

    Very well said

  • Mickey Rat||

    "And this isn't just by the way Russian inspired bots and fake news. This is Fox News vs. The New York Times editorial page. If you look at these different sources of information, they do not describe the same thing. In some cases, they don't even talk about the same thing. And so it is very difficult to figure out how democracy works over the long term in those circumstances."

    So democracy does not work unless the media are all on the same page? And who decides what that page is?

    Obama is expressing a very dangerous notion to press freedom.

  • JoeCorrao||

    yawn

  • Rebel Scum||

    Statists gotta state.

  • Rebel Scum||

    Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong.

    Because he is a lazy government employee.

  • ||

    And had he not been in the hard working government he would have been "lazily" working on wall st. pulling in six figures with his feet on the desk.

  • ernaldo||

    ..".whether they are corroding our democracy. whether they are corroding our democracy."
    We are NOT a democracy, barry.

    "......It's not okay to deny the underlying science......." Not even faked science?

    "and he'd like it more if the NBA had a junior league..." Its called college basketball

    "And it's why his White House was scandal-free, according to the president......"..Wow, just wow...

    "Obama thinks the stereotype about lazy government employees is wrong."....hussein was living proof
    of that lie....

    I am so pleased the 0bamas are out of the white house, wish they'd leave America.

  • Giant business man||

    Obama's mo is always the same. The description is humblebragging. He tells us how humble and brilliant he is.

  • ConstitutionFirst||

    Nothing "leaks" in 0bama world. The Leftist, Progressive Media has his back.

  • YourPlanetIsAToilet||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us..."
    No, of course not, Amerika always elects homosexual muzrat presidents with sketchy backgrounds, phony birth certificates and transvestite first lady boy spouses...

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    Proof positive right wingers are racist paranoid retards.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Nope. First, democrats and their more outright Marxist brethren have a monopoly on treason. Second, progressives are the real racists.

    Case closed.

  • HARRY BURNS||

    Everything about Obama and his corrupt admin is reflected in the famous snapshot of Valarie Jarrett and Obama's hive-mind White House staff. Here is a tinyURL showing google's images of that grim, infernal crew:
    https://tinyurl.com/y7rk24tu

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    Awww...don't cry baby. Does your diaper need changing snowflake? LMFAO! What retards right wing pussies are.

  • Finrod||

    Go die in a fire, fucking idiot leftist slaver.

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    Awww...don't cry baby. Does your diaper need changing snowflake? LMFAO! What retards right wing pussies are. Why don't you MAGA and buy some rope - must be some good pipes you can hang from in your moms basement.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    That all you got you little bitch? It would be funny to have a Reason convention. To see if a pussy like you would actually show up. I would enjoy slapping you around like the little cunt you are.

  • YourPlanetIsAToilet||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us..."
    No, of course not. Amerika has been electing gay communist Muslim Africoons with; shady backgrounds, fake birth certificates; non-existent educational records who are married to transvestite first lady boys since day one!
    Yeah, no scandal at all...

  • YourPlanetIsAToilet||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us..."
    No, of course not. Amerika has been electing gay communist Muslim Africoons with; shady backgrounds, fake birth certificates; non-existent educational records who are married to transvestite first lady boys since day one!
    Yeah, no scandal at all...

  • TrumpIsATRAITOR||

    Meanwhile, Trump threw 5 tantrums on twitter today like the 4 year old sissy boy he is. Trump has redefined POTUS: Pussyboy of the United States. Lmfao... love reading all the right wing pigs throw tantrums over Obama - one of the most honorable and classics presidents in a generation. Go back to sucking putins rod you traitors to America! TRUMP WILL GET THE DEATH PENALTY FOR TREASON!!

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    Bull. Don't mistake your rabid fantasies for reality. Oh, I forget. If you did that you would have nothing to say, here or elsewhere.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    *Yawn*........

    Are you still bitching? You should just get together with OB, and Tony so you can all commit suicide together. Best thing for you really, your commentary is going nowhere.

  • ProfLewis||

    Every time this insufferable, egotistical, jerk piece of human excrement pops up in the news I thank The Lord above that godless Democrat hack is no longer occupying the White House. Of course, I so thoroughly dislike and hold in utter contempt that Barry Obama Alinskyite that I'm not really able to objectively discuss him or appraise his latest blow-hard, gaseous excretions (lies and slanders). A curse upon him. Just go away.

  • JP88||

    "...have to have a conversation about their business model that recognizes they are a public good."

    This "public good" language is frightening.

  • ||

    It's all to tie it into the Commerce Clause of the constitution

  • Mark22||

    "Good" in "public good" doesn't mean "beneficent", it means "merchandise". A public good is merchandise that is both non-excludable and non-rivalrous. Anybody who thinks that Google is a "public good" is a moron.

  • DocDave88||

    Too funny. No scandals? The Boy King's thugocracy was riddled with scandals. It's just that his court jesters didn't let him know and he was too f*cking stupid to turn on the TV by himself.

  • ||

    I love how he just singled out college basketball as hypocritically denoting players as both students and athletes. If any whitey did that on a radio show they'd be canned the next day.

  • nogard||

    He is correct about just one thing. There are two sets of people and they do live in different worlds. There are those who are fully aware of his corrupt, scandal ridden infection of the oval office, and there are those who still believe hat he will fly them all over the rainbow on his magic flyin unicorn

  • aajax||

    Anyone notice that Obama apparently said nothing that a Reason reader could reasonably take serious issue with? Is there some way we could get rid of that three-term limit so the Democrats could run someone we could live with to replace Trump?

  • Sleeping_Through_Hanukkah||

    Lots of Reason readers seem to be upset that he's a Communist Muslim black thug who hates Democracy, so I guess Trump is better...

  • colorblindkid||

    The problem with Obama was never his words; it was his actions. Everybody agreed he was a good orator who could say anything and make it sound great.

    Nobody denies he said good things about the press and publicly treated them nicely while he was using his powers to undermine and intimidate them worse than Bush did.

    Nobody denies he said some libertarian-ish things about our wars, but he also droned more countries than Bush and helped overthrow another Middle East dictator, throwing Libya into chaos for even dumber reasons than ousting Saddam.

    Obama, like Bush, was a "good person" and a nice man who thought he was doing good while handling a very difficult presidency. But being a good man is largely irrelevant to being a good president.

  • Sleeping_Through_Hanukkah||

    "Droned more countries" is a pretty vague measure.

    I'm interested in how many people he killed, and how much money he spent killing them. And how much of that was due to the factors outside of his control (eg. the already existing wars).

    That would be my measure of belligerence. I'm not really sure where he falls on it.

    I don't think any modern president is ever going to be totally peaceful-- we just have way too many guns for that to happen.

  • Sebastian Cremmington||

    Quadaffi gave a terrorist a hero's welcome...once Quadaffi did that he was drone worthy.

  • Árboles de la Barranca||

    No, the US had enough of the Obama/Clinton war-criminal machine that destroyed a few countries and devastated a few more while murdering a million Muslims and creating a million war refugees.

    It's somebody else's turn to fuck things up.

  • Sebastian Cremmington||

    Venezuela and Syria prove Bush only quickened the inevitable in Iraq and that Obama was correct to taking out Quaddifi without concern for nation building.

  • Árboles de la Barranca||

    Your disjointed reply does nothing to convince most rational people that the Obama/Clinton-cum-Bush war criminals did much of anything "correctly" in their reckless rampages. The current state of Libya run by rival terrorist factions and operating open black slave markets proves the opposite.

  • Mark22||

    Anyone notice that Obama apparently said nothing that a Reason reader could reasonably take serious issue with?

    Obama always says the right things on every occasion, it's how he got elected. It's his lack of truthfulness and honesty that are the problem.

  • tlapp||

    That he has no conscience to allow him to be embarrassed is not the same as having nothing to be embarrassed about.

  • Árboles de la Barranca||

    My thought exactly. Plus 1.

    "I'm really good at killing people..."

  • Nativerage||

    Wow. Someone sounds bitter he had no influence in the 2016 election. And I'm sure he worked over hard... acquiring all those bookers and all that blow for his secret service agents. What a moron! This is why I am proud to be a middle class citizen. Without us, there would be no USA!

  • Nativerage||

    P.s. auto correct ruins another valid point!

  • Nativerage||

    P.s. auto correct ruins another valid point!

  • WarrenPeese||

    I love basketball, too, but I don't think we should accommodate the 100-150 players going into the NBA annually. Providing incomes to college athletes beyond full scholarships is only going to make the rich schools richer.

  • ScottK||

    I have no problem with any of Obama's comments, and I don't understand why the writer believes the speech was "weirdly" off the record. I've been to a number of off-the-record speeches at my local university.

    I do have a problem with surreptitious recording of such comments, which is inevitably followed by demagoguery for imbeciles.

  • John3633Smith||

    You don't like transparency.

  • Finrod||

    You're no more a libertarian than you are a duck-billed platypus, fucking slaver.

  • John3633Smith||

    You know what makes Obama untouchable? Even though he is mulatto, he chooses to say he is black. Black privilege nowadays means you can do whatever you want, illegal or not and should anyone say or do anything to interfere with that, you lose your job, labeled a racist/bigot/any other ist and that's it. Just look at all the criminals that were getting shot by police while committing a crime and their family would get a payout right away, you could riot and police were told to step aside.

    On top of this, he has lots of friends in high positions. Anyways, just listening to him speak shows how high he is living. These people are on a completely different level. They think because of how rich all of them are, they can do and get away with anything. This is just some of the stuff Obama got away with. Now, their trying to get rid of Trump with something false. I mean how screwed up are we as a society? Live it up Obama because I wouldn't want to be you on judgement day!

    http://www.trueactivist.com/cr.....residency/

  • JKols||

    Don't forget the pallet of cash in the dead of night without Congressional authorization to Iran...

  • Cynical Asshole||

    In his remarks, Obama ... claimed to have left office without a major "embarrassing" scandal

    That's probably true. He most likely wasn't embarrassed at all about using the IRS to go after hid political opponents, or his Justice Department going after journalists like James Rosen to force them to reveal their sources, or Benghazi, or the Snowden leaks.

  • TheBlackCherokee||

    Concerning "Climate Change":

    " It's okay to argue about how we should address climate change. It's not okay to deny the underlying science."
    The "underlying science", however, has been TOTALLY debunked as false, misleading and corrupted by those "scientists" trying continue living off government grants. Total scam artists and Obama and his administration entoto completely fell for the scam.
    Talk about a scandal, this was an HUGE scandal on many levels involving 100s of millions of dollars that just went pfft into Obama's cronies pockets.

    Just sayin,
    TBC

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Its's all just a means to redistribute wealth. Justified by 'climate change' as a scare tactic. Even if every one of those lying shitbags was right, nothing Chocolate Nixon was going to do would change outcomes. It would just break us financially.

  • SukieTawdry||

    So basically: The science is settled and deniers are apostates; the Internet should be regulated as a public utility and we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine; there's no value in higher education for future NBA stars; women can't fend for themselves in the workplace so we have to nurse them along; there's no reason to feel embarrassed about politicizing and weaponizing all offices of the executive branch and using them to browbeat your political opponents; government workers are awesome; private sector employers should subsidize raising their employees' children.

    I'd say that's pretty much vintage Obama.

  • Spunkstein||

    He loves saying left office without a " scandal" so much he makes his audience sign an NDA when he says it. Unless he skates the pending scandals , which wouldn't surprise me, this is the scope of his legacy. His "Legacy" is protected by NDA's and the legacy media.

  • Spunkstein||

    He loves saying left office without a " scandal" so much he makes his audience sign an NDA when he says it. Unless he skates the pending scandals , which wouldn't surprise me, this is the scope of his legacy. His "Legacy" is protected by NDA's and the legacy media.

  • Sebastian Cremmington||

    Obama is president because of Facebook. So the only reason the superdelegates chose Obama over Hillary was because Obama's Millenial supporters organized themselves using Facebook and overwhelmed Hillary in the caucuses. The Democrat establishment also was intrigued by Obama's digital fundraising.

    Obama is obviously correct about college basketball which is on an express train to irrelevancy (sorry Duke alums) but should NBA teams promote "diversity" or should they try to field the best 12 players?

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    So first of all, the "most transparent President in history" has to give what appears to be a totally innocuous talk with a media blackout. Typical of his entire Presidency in fact. The real question is, what is this ex-President doing mouthing off at a conference on Sports Analytics? He knows nothing about the subject other than what he learned watching Moneyball (assuming he even watched it since neither Jonah Hill nor Brad Pitt are black). This was nothing but pandering by the Conference. Obama just needs to sit down and shut up.

    Second, we apparently will have democracy when the NY Times and Fox News see the news the same way, report it the same way and comment on it the same way.

    Not a "sustainable" (there's that word again) way of doing business? It's done pretty well over the decades, as have most of the players

    Equal pay for equal work? That's already the law. Too bad it wasn't followed in the Obama White House. Nor was diversity in hiring for that matter.

    And sure, parental leave would be great. I would have loved it. The public interest law firm I was in had it and it worked. But not every business can provide it, nor should they be made to do so. Just because something ought to be done doesn't mean that it can or even should be done in all cases.

  • Seven Hordes||

    I think the "best" part of the speech is that it got leaked. Mr. Control Freak Obama is probably chewing out everybody within his reach over it. He's also furious that he can't sick the IRS on the leakers, or threaten them with jail time (like he did with James Rosen).

  • the wolf||

    Obams purports to know a lot about working in the private sector for someone who hasn't spent any appreciable time doing so

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Has he EVER held a real job? Even back in school? Or did he just live off dealing coke (which is admittedly, SOME kind of job) and fraudulent foreign student aid?

  • More Salt||

    It's amazing none of his scandals embarrassed him because he sure had plenty of them. Check news.grabien.com and search The Complete Collection: Obama's Scandals, Gaffes, and Power-Grabs.

    I guess that says something about his character . . . or lack thereof.

  • enviro414||

    Delve deeper into the science with an understanding of thermalization and use of Quantum Mechanics (Hitran does the calculations) and discover that CO2 does not now, has never had and will never have a significant effect on climate. http://energyredirect3.blogspot.com

  • CapitalistRoader||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us."

    In much the same way that 300lb women wearing halter tops and short shorts in Walmart aren't embarrassed.

  • Blandly Urbane||

    Boy oh boy do I miss his smart common sense; how do you argue with nothing?

  • ravenshrike||

    Good to know he's still an idiot. There are plenty of people in the private sector working 80-100 hour weeks.

  • XM||

    You would seriously never know that Obama prosecuted a record number of journalists and whistleblowers, more than many of his predecessors combined. Or that he effectively outsourced torture despite promise to end that.

    Obama was given carte blanche to do whatever he wanted, at least as far as the media was concerned. Half of your democrat friends probably doesn't know that the SC declared that the ACA subsidies were illegal because congress never voted on it. The same thing for the Iran deal.

  • muhammed||

    #ready4Oprah

    Burp

  • MayneDeWayne||

    Any questions that Obama is a fascist should have just left the building. He wants a "common conversation", code for censorship of the uncommon view.

  • TDG||

    Obama noted that in other countries—like China—the government simply decides which viewpoints can be aired in public, but "that's not who we are, and that's not the society I want to live in."

    "Only please, Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch."

  • David Friedman||

    "who just holds up a snowball in the middle of the Senate chamber in winter and says, 'look there's no climate change because it's snowing!' Which happened by the way. I didn't just make that up.""

    He did make it up.

    Inhofe did hold up a snowball but he didn't say "look there's no climate change because it's snowing!"

    That quote is a flat lie.

  • Ndogg||

    "so that the NCAA is not serving as a farm system for the NBA with a bunch of kids who are unpaid but are under enormous financial pressure."

    I can't believe someone who's not a homeschooler actually said this out loud. And I agree with him! Of course, he took the whiny "College students are not getting paid!" route I expected him to take, but at least he said it. I long for the day to finally see sports totally decoupled from any form of education outside of gym class. Long overdue- especially for basketball and football which rely almost 100% on schools (but thanks to AAU type leagues may be changing).

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  • RockLibertyWarrior||

    This is rich coming from one of the worst presidents in recent history, "no scandals?" Does this corrupt piece of shit remember that he drone bombed US citizens without a trial, used the IRS to punish pro freedom groups, politicized the FBI, wire tapped and spied on a opposing party's candidate during election time, allowing the NSA to snoop on and spy on American citizens etc. This piece of shit was arrogant and a failure, he was worse than Carter. His two terms were the worst terms in history, a stagnant economy, a government take over of the medical system ect. there was nothing good about anything he did. He can suck shit, and keep crying tears about how the leftist lie propaganda shit machine known as the media got shown up.

  • Seven Hordes||

    Economic growth was stagnant as hell, even after the economy "recovered" in the last few years of Obama's presidency. He also said that 3 percent growth was never going to happen again. Well, Trump comes in, and we're having great growth. Obama never gave a damn about the economy. He was more concerned with PC crap like bathrooms.

  • Finrod||

    Yep. Obama was the first President since WW2 where ZERO of the years he was President was GDP growth above the postwar average of 3.3 percent. Even W had two such years.

  • Whiteowl||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," and "no massive screw-ups" ..... What the hell is his definition of scandal? Or massive? Or screw-up?

    What the hell does he think Benghazi was?! A field exercise? What about the IRS scandal? What about the AP scandal? The VA scandal? Fast and Furious scandal? Clinton emails scandal?

    How dare he claim no scandal or embarrassment.

    His entire eight years was riddled with scandal after scandal of the kind that truly affected peoples very lives, directly! He's comparing his horrendous scandals to all the generated hoopla about the current president and his braggadocio and tactless blunders when he talks? Really? He was never embarrassed? He embarrassed our country. Yeah... We all were embarrassed for him and we're still dealing with the shame he can't confront.

    He sleeps at night as people who have no conscience do. Horrible cowardly, weaselly, little man.

  • opus313||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us,"

    A Clintonesque turn of phrase. Since he is shameless nothing embarrasses him, thus there were no scandals that were embarassing. Technically true but meaningless.

  • prome.4||

    400 comments under the article - that's the answer: "Is Obama popular?" I think that for everyone there are obviously two things: Obama is not a stupid politician, Obama still has influence in a political society. About his work can say a lot - only here it will be words. Personally for me, his performance was pleasant. He is very cautious in his statements, because he understands that his words can have weight. Even at the University of Law and Political Science, we analyzed interviews of well-known politicians literally by word. I can assure you that most politicians from the "top echelon" skillfully master the skill of speakers.

  • Papercheap||

    400 comments under the article - that's the answer: "Is Obama popular?" I think that for everyone there are obviously two things: Obama is not a stupid politician, Obama still has influence in a political society. About his work can say a lot - only here it will be words. Personally for me, his performance was pleasant. He is very cautious in his statements, because he understands that his words can have weight. Even at the University of Law and Political Science, we analyzed interviews of well-known politicians literally by word. I can assure you that most politicians from the "top echelon" skillfully master the skill of speakers.

  • JFDeplorable||

    "We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us..."

    Those with narcissistic personality disorders aren't "embarrassed" because they have no empathy or concept that the world DOESN'T revolve around them. This isn't news, it merely confirms what we all suspected about Barack the Boy King Hussein Obama.

  • m.EK||

    Obama still believes "these United States of America" is a democracy? Wow, so much for the Constitutional Scholar position he spoke of.
    When the "underlying science" is corporate "science" or has been washed by the politicians that utilize it, is it really science?
    He did preference with a scandal that embarrassed him. This says a lot, although his actions and words during the time bely's this assertion. Hiding the reports of his using the "foreign student" money and the obvious discrepencies with the birth documents probably was not embarrassing. Still...
    My issue is with the upper "officials" that seem to think the Oath of Office is some sort of smarmy ceremony! The Oath is a LEGAL AND BINDING CONTRACT with the citizenry or electorate. This CIVIL contract is at the root of the methods We The People were to control or eliminate "bad actors"(sorry, didn't respond to Stossels article:-). That and the obvious FACT that the "officials" appear to think the first 10 Amendment are some sort of "law" for the citizenry and they are immune. Actually, we are immune, the Amendments are the clear LIMITS on the authority and autonomy of the federal government, their employees, and contractors. This says nothing of the deep state (guys, how are the poppy fields in Afganistan going this year,,, good crop?) and the inherent corruption that is their calling.
    I'm sorry but I'm not going to listen to the full audio recording. I really had all of that guy I could stand the first time!

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