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Trump Wants 'Bill of Love' That Deals With DACA, Border Security, Chain Migration, Diversity Lotto

Cameras were rolling at today's immigration meeting.

White House poolWhite House poolPresident Trump let the cameras stick around as he met with a bipartisan group of lawmakers to discuss an immigration reform bill. While Trump declared a bipartisan "bill of love" was possible, he insisted it be one "where we're able to secure our borders."

At one point Trump also claimed his positions would be "what the people in this room come up with."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said he was pleased by the "sense of urgency" at the meeting, where he noted border security was also important because of drugs, and said participants had narrowed down what would be discussed during the "DACA phase" of immigration talks to "border security, chain migration, and the diversity visa."

Durbin and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) lead ongoing bipartisan negotiations into immigration reform.

Unfortunately, the issues lawmakers have narrowed it down to have become more useful to them as stalking horses than anything else.

"Chain migration is so insidious," Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) insisted during the meeting. "It is the fundamental flaw in the immigration policy of the United States."

Trump picked up where Perdue left off, insisting that chain migration had "taken a very big hit" in the last six months to a year and pointing to a truck attack in New York City's West Side Highway as a reason. Trump repeated his unsubstantiated claim that the perpetrator, an Uzbek immigrant, was responsible for more than 20 people coming into the United States.

Trump first made the claim a day after the terror attack, saying Sayfullo Saipov was the "primary point of contact" for 23 people who "came in or potentially came in" with him.

It's not how "chain migration" works. The ill-defined term is usually used to describe the idea that legal immigrants can help other immigrants come to the U.S. Family reunification visas, however, only work for a sponsor's closest relatives, who must still meet all the other requirements of U.S. immigration law.

It's a process that can take decades, despite how misleading White House infographics try to present it.

The diversity lottery is similarly misunderstood. Recipients of visas "awarded" under the program must still meet all other immigration requirements, while "diversity" referred to the program being meant for nationals of countries under-represented in annual immigration entry. It was created in the 1980s to help Irish, and other predominantly white, immigrants.

Most importantly, both of these issues represent legal avenues of immigration, and Republicans who have long insisted they are opposed merely to illegal immigration are looking to narrow them.

It's a poor start for negotiations meant to resolve the legal status of hundreds of thousands of DACA recipients, the children of illegal immigrants. DACA provisions expire in March.

Meanwhile, the most recent government funding measure, which some Democrats have threatened to tie to DACA, expires on January 19.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Look, if you don't want them to address chain migration, then simply identify some other immigration concern, slap a moniker on it and whisper it in lawmakers' ears. They'll glom onto anything to seem knowledgeable. Chain migration was an easy phrase to remember and sounded like something that could be sold as detrimental.

  • Hugh Akston||

    "Chain Immigration" does have a vaguely menacing sound that politicians can use to manipulate ignorant voters whose worldviews are fear-based.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    "Chain Immigration" does have a vaguely menacing sound

    It's also a phrase that's been part of discussions on immigration within academia for years. The implication that it didn't crop up until That Tricksy Drumpf introduced it is a sign of how ignorant most people tend to be.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    If it wasn't for the half-educated, belligerently ignorant, and superstitious among us, we wouldn't have Pres. Trump to lead our way back toward good old days that never existed.

  • MOAB Maxine||

    What if his opposition was an career criminal goblin woman? Whats a guy to do?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    A career criminal goblin woman would be an improvement over the creature known as Hillary Clinton. Who should be a boss level monster in a D&D dungeon crawl.

  • Tony||

    Anchor babies was a good one.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    It's a shame you haven't drank your Drano yet.

  • Mark22||

    What we want is a sensible, skill-based immigration system, like other nations, plus enforcement of the laws that are on the books.

    What you want apparently is opening the borders to anybody and sending the bill to the 20% of income earners who actually make a net positive contribution to keeping the government running.

  • SQRLSY One||

    "Walls can suck my balls, build bridges to Madison County instead" sounds like a good suggestion for them to "glom onto" instead, MeThinks...

  • SIV||

    I like how the pro- centrally-planned, taxpayer-subsidized immigration proponents call any proposed legislative reforms that may restrict entry of diseased, criminal, and likely-future public charge individuals asanti-legal immigration.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    I call such efforts a step in the right direction.

  • chemjeff||

    So we've gone from: "We don't want them here because they might be terrorists/drug runners/MS-13 gang members" to "We don't want them here because they are already related to someone here"? Really?

  • Marty Feldman's Eyes||

    Haven't you heard? After the goal posts moved the official line was that we're full up.

    Yeah I had a hard time keeping a straight face saying that the U.S. is full.

  • Longtobefree||

    Actually the phrase is 'full of it'.
    It applies to the political process.

  • junyo||

    Look, if the good Lord had wanted those unwashed masses here, he would have had their mothers give birth atop the correct geography.

  • PoxOnBothYourHouses||

    And many have figured that out, junyo.

  • JoeBlow123||

    I have a friend who married a Filipino girl. He is in the process of helping her bring her entire family anywhere he goes. Why exactly does his wife's mother need some sort of immigration paperwork?

  • Longtobefree||

    Because she is a Muslim terrorist, of course.

  • Adam330||

    Their real position is "We don't want them here." The "because" is just whatever excuse is convenient at the moment.

  • Mark22||

    Those are your goalposts, not those who want immigration reform.

    What voters and sensible people want is the kind of immigration system most other civilized nations have: one that admits immigrants with valuable skills who make a net positive contribution to the country and keeps everybody else out.

  • Marty Feldman's Eyes||

    It's a process that can take decades, despite how misleading White House infographics try to present it.

    The diversity lottery is similarly misunderstood.

    It's all misunderstood. Some people still think if you get married your spouse is in. It's not that easy and it still takes years, thousands of $$$, and dealing with the constant bullshit the INS's successor heaps on.

  • Rat on a train||

    Immigration visas for spouses still require background investigations and a probationary period but are not subject to caps.

  • FatDrunkAndStupid||

    This is a pretty weak argument. Trump is saying this guy could bring in 23 people. You are saying, yeah, but it could take decades to accomplish. From the perspective of a national policy, who cares? Reason is quibbling over specifics (which Trump always exaggerates or gets wrong) but Trump is correct in the essence of the argument. Under current policy, one undesirable in very short order can lead to 23 of his undesirable relatives coming in as well. That is insane, and it needs to change.

    The Visa lottery thing is similar. Yes, nothing Trump says about the Visa lottery reflects why it actually exists but he's just using it to push for a merit based system. Everyone knows what a lottery is. Everyone knows that would be a stupid way of selecting immigrants. That our non-visa lottery methods are even stupider is true but irrelevant. Once Trump persuades people that merit is the correct method, the whole house of cards falls down and we can adopt a merit system.

  • Mark22||

    It's all misunderstood. Some people still think if you get married your spouse is in. It's not that easy and it still takes years, thousands of $$$, and dealing with the constant bullshit the INS's successor heaps on.

    I'm a legal (skilled) immigrant. Naturalization took several decades. People who came to the US illegally at the same time as me were granted amnesty and became citizens in a small fraction of the time.

    DACA, TPS, and amnesty are a big "f*ck you" from Democrats to legal immigrants.

  • DajjaI||

    Anyone who thinks Trump will sign anything more than a temporary extension of DACA is off their meds.

    Oprah for Queen 2020 Committee approves this message.

  • MOAB Maxine||

    Oprah, Obama, Al Sharpton, Snoop, Shaun King all up in the white hizzi. Will the inevitable collapse happen under Trump or Oprah? YOU get a free car! And YOU get a free car!.... Stay tuned!

    How exciting!

  • Longtobefree||

    Of course, like the free cruise of free vacation, there are a few fees, and some taxes to pay - - - -

  • MOAB Maxine||

    Oprah, Obama, Al Sharpton, Snoop, Shaun King all up in the white hizzi. Will the inevitable collapse happen under Trump or Oprah? YOU get a free car! And YOU get a free car!.... Stay tuned!

    How exciting!

  • Elias Fakaname||

    DACA should never be open ended. Close it off soon, and build the wall. We definitely need to cut immigration back, especially from Mexico, Central America, and South America. Which will give us time to properly absorb the massive amount of them already here.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Trump's position is what is in the Go-Pee prohibitionist platform. Remember when Reason teevee interviewed that GOP girl? That platform is set in stone. We're just lucky it kept electricity legal!

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Oh fuck off, you predictable gibbering buffoon. So tiresome and hackneyed.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I just went over to Bratfart.com and they are ready to pillory the Con Man.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-g.....t-amnesty/

    BULLSHIT Trump, if yoiu allow one DACA to stay THAT is amnesty. We are not Libtarded morons who follow whatever we're told.

    We of average IQ's and not geniuses see through your Jebby Bull Crap.

    You have become a Weasel Bastard RINO, and CoC cuck, and just the other day you said you will be supporting all of McConnells Senate buddies instead of the MAGA Candidates. WTF is up with that?

    You disgust me Sir and I was once your biggest supporter here.

  • MOAB Maxine||

    I posted over there. oooo...that was fun. Computer almost caught fire.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    PB, I imagine an America where all the progtards, like you, have been dealt with and are largely deposited face down in landfills. It's wonderful place.

  • Longtobefree||

    A 'bill of love' would probably get a Title IX tribunal and expulsion.
    How many ways can one phrase trigger?
    Bill is a 'boy's name', triggering girls.
    The fact that the name is 'gender implying' triggers the alphabet coalition.
    'love' is an old fashioned emotion related to marriage, so all singles are triggered.
    Putting bill in front of love implies a priority for the masculine, triggering everybody.
    The phrase was spoken by a white man, triggering all other races.
    The fact that people are 'triggered' triggers the gun haters.
    It just doesn't end.
    I better go take my meds, 'cause I just noticed this is Tuesday.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    while "diversity" referred to the program being meant for nationals of countries under-represented in annual immigration entry. It was created in the 1980s to help Irish, and other predominantly white, immigrants.

    Ed's under the strange idea that I want more white people here.

  • Mark22||

    Ed's under the strange idea that I want more white people here.

    Of course you don't. You love exotic guys and gals to sleep with, even better if they have sexy foreign accents. Since you're only going to sleep with them but not actually marry them, their earnings potential doesn't matter to you. And you'd like other tax payers to foot the bill for those immigrants and any children that result.

    Your kind of racist preferences are common among liberals.

  • buybuydandavis||

    " While Trump declared a bipartisan "bill of love" was possible, he insisted it be one "where we're able to secure our borders.""

    Without the will to enforce immigration law, the wall is a fraud.

  • MOAB Maxine||

    "Just give me something to sign...and I'll sign it" - Pres DJT

  • MOAB Maxine||

    "Just give me something to sign...and I'll sign it" - Pres DJT

  • Elias Fakaname||

    The open borders bullshit is strong amongst the commentariat today.............

  • Mark22||

    It's a poor start for negotiations meant to resolve the legal status of hundreds of thousands of DACA recipients, the children of illegal immigrants. DACA provisions expire in March.

    The resolution is simple: let DACA expire without replacement.

  • Mark22||

    It's not how "chain migration" works. The ill-defined term is usually used to describe the idea that legal immigrants can help other immigrants come to the U.S. Family reunification visas, however, only work for a sponsor's closest relatives, who must still meet all the other requirements of U.S. immigration law. It's a process that can take decades, despite how misleading White House infographics try to present it.

    It doesn't matter how long it takes each individual immigrant to move through the pipeline, what matters is that chain migration maxes out all available immigrant visas every year, year after year. Whether the people filling up the pipeline this year or ten years ago is irrelevant for the long term impact of chain migration. Furthermore, the average legal Mexican immigrant sponsors half a dozen additional visas, so this "only work for a sponsor's closest relative" is misleading b.s.

    The solution is for the US to do what most other nations do: a strictly skill-based immigration system that only allows sponsorship of spouses and minor children. The only deal on DACA imaginable is if such a system becomes part of the deal. DACA recipients should never be able to sponsor their parents, both because their parents grossly violated US immigration law, and because children simply should not be allowed to sponsor parents.

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