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Harvard Crimson: University Is Right to Ban Fraternities, Wrong to Ban Sororities

Assault on freedom of association

HarvardMunsHarvard University has plans to purge all single-sex social organizations from campus. The editors of the Harvard Crimson are perfectly okay with that—with the exception of sororities.

All-male clubs are bad, all-female clubs are good, runs the simple logic of the student-run newspaper. Which is funny, given that one of the justifications for getting rid of those clubs is that they are discriminatory.

The editorial dropped a few weeks after a committee recommended that Harvard's administration upgrade to a full-on ban its previous policy of imposing sanctions on students who join finals clubs. "The discriminatory practices of these organizations undermine our educational mission and the principles espoused by this Faculty and distance their members from their College experience," wrote the committee.

The Crimson agrees:

We support this recommendation, and we urge University President Drew G. Faust to do so as well. It importantly expands the discourse beyond issues of gender inequality and sexual assault to the role exclusionary social organizations play in perpetuating outdated notions of elitism, classism, and exclusivity on campus. The report rightfully highlights how these organizations impact students' sense of belonging at Harvard, especially those who come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. Given the serious influence of final clubs on the daily social life of Harvard undergraduates, we see this recommendation as necessary.

But:

Our support does not come without reservations about the process. The composition of the committee is primarily faculty members, and they may not be close enough to student life. Although their input is welcome, the weight of the decision should rest with deans and administrators who are trained to have student social life under their purview. Moreover, as we have opined in the past, we wish it was possible for administrators to better distinguish male final clubs and sororities. If the committee seeks to combat exclusivity and foster belonging, arguably sororities can provide a supportive role by giving women a social space on campus.

The university should combat exclusivity by excluding students who do not identify as female from forming exclusive clubs? At least the more comprehensive ban is even handed.

Harvard is a private institution, so it can implement whatever policy it wants: a ban on only finals clubs and fraternities, a ban on all single-sex groups, whatever. Whether such a course of action is wise is another matter.

The policy appears to punish students for political reasons—a consistent refrain has been that the finals clubs are not "progressive" enough. And since these groups were never officially recognized by Harvard in the first place, it puts the university in the strange position of trying to prevent students from freely associating with each other in an unofficial capacity. Will the administration employ spies to make sure too many students of same sex aren't hanging out together in a club-esque way?

Steven Pinker, a professor of psychology at Harvard, has criticized the university for trying to eliminate single-sex clubs:

A university is an institution with circumscribed responsibilities which engages in a contract with its students. Its main responsibility is to provide them with an education. It is not an arbiter over their lives, 24/7. What they do on their own time is none of the university's business.

One of the essential values in higher education is that people can differ in their values, and that these differences can be constructively discussed. Harvard has a right to value mixed-sex venues everywhere, all the time, with no exceptions. If some of its students find value in private, single-sex associations, some of the time, a university is free to argue against, discourage, or even ridicule those choices. But it is not a part of the mandate of a university to impose these values on its students over their objections.

Universities ought to be places where issues are analyzed, distinctions are made, evidence is evaluated, and policies crafted to attain clearly stated goals. This recommendation is a sledgehammer which doesn't distinguish between single-sex and other private clubs. It doesn't target illegal or objectionable behavior such as drunkenness or public disturbances. Nor by any stretch of the imagination could it be seen as an effective, rationally justified, evidence-based policy tailored to reduce sexual assault.

This illiberal policy can only contribute to the impression in the country at large that elite universities are not dispassionate forums for clarifying values, analyzing problems, and proposing evidence-based solutions, but are institutions determined to impose their ideology and values on a diverse population by brute force.

Pinker is right. Harvard—and The Crimson—deserve all the opprobrium they're likely to receive.

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  • Memory Hole||

    The free association angle is murkier, maybe, because these groups are so closely affiliated with the university. Live by the affilation with the university and die by it? Of course I'm completely opposed to fucking with these groups or blaming them all for the sins of individual members.

  • Calidissident||

    According to the article, they've never been officially recognized by Harvard.

  • Memory Hole||

    Maybe I should read the article next time
    Yeah, sounds like freedom of association and sex discrimination territory.

  • Bra Ket||

    "Maybe I should read the article next time"

    Let's not get carried away.

  • Lily Bulero||

    "elitism, classism, and exclusivity on campus"

    At *Harvard,* of all places? OMG get the smelling salts!

    "arguably sororities can provide a supportive role by giving women a social space on campus."

    Just so long as you include "trans women," and don't you dare question the identity of a self-identified "woman" just because that person has a dick, announces that he's a lesbian, and that he can't wait to get in on some pillow fights.

  • Lily Bulero||

    "So I have an idea for this new film called Sorority Brother...this football player decides he needs to get in touch with his feminine side so he registers as a woman and joins a sorority...blah blah blah tits blah blah...anyway, I'll leave the detail work to you."

  • Ariki||

    By "film" you mean porn right?

    Name time:

    "9 Inch Clit on Campus"
    "The surprise lesbian"
    "Legally Female"
    ........

  • Elias Fakaname||

    "Hustler's Reverse Sorority Ganbang Slut 1-44"

  • Vernon Depner||

    "...elite universities are not dispassionate forums for clarifying values, analyzing problems, and proposing evidence-based solutions, but are institutions determined to impose their ideology and values on a diverse population by brute force."

    Correct. Why not be up-front about it?

  • Hugh Akston||

    I'm very concerned about what goes on at Harvard University.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    Hey, some of us fathered young men we plan to send to Harvard to not only have their asses paddled by America's future leaders, but also so that America's future leaders can insert strange objects into their rectums.

    It's called planning for the future, Hugh.

  • Brandybuck||

    Love it when you discover Hahvahd's secret fraternity rites in Fallout 4. It's actually closer to Tufts, but the accent is pure Hahvahd.

  • CE||

    Back in the day, Stanford banned sororities but not fraternities, because it was believed that women couldn't handle rejection as well when they weren't accepted (following a string of high profile suicides).

  • Bra Ket||

    I seem to recall hearing that some places banned sororities as a side effect of banning brothels.

  • freedomlover||

    Hmmmmm................in my day at UC Davis, that (the suicides) were the Asian students who failed their parents expectations when they did not get into medical school.

    Strange bedfellows!

  • Inigo Montoya||

    I remember a joke about Yale and Harvard that seems to fit this situation...

    A Harvard alum walks into a corporate bathroom about the same time as his colleague, a Yale alum, and they both go use the urinals. The Yale guy finishes first, flushes, and starts to head towards the door. Harvard man calls over to him, "You know at Harvard they taught us to wash our hands after we pee."

    The Yale guy looks back over his shoulder and replies, "That's interesting. At Yale they taught us not to pee on our hands."

  • Lily Bulero||

    Hey, don't go off-topic, we're discusing serious issues here!

  • BYODB||

    If I ever need to put things into perspective, I just remind myself that George W. Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard.

  • Juice||

    So did Tom Woods.

  • ||

    Greek organizations are big on charitable works and I'm assuming Harvard's fraternities are no exception. Has any thought been given to the good these guys do?

  • MarkLastname||

    No. Men don't do good. Men bad.

  • Marcus Aurelius||

    Truth.

  • Lily Bulero||

    Meanwhile, the people who were rejected from Harvard are like, "holy shit, I lost out to these guys? Either I'm like a hundred times stupider than I thought, or..."

  • CE||

    Or my parents didn't donate enough.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    If the committee seeks to combat exclusivity and foster belonging, arguably sororities can provide a supportive role by giving women a social space on campus.

    Because no one is more inviting than a clique of women.

  • Lily Bulero||

    Your [insert name of female relative] and her friends are always inviting to me.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Nope, I will not.

  • geo1113||

    You spelled irritating incorrectly.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Fist still has traumatic memories of the time in Jr High when the popular girls wrote Virgin Slut on his forehead in lipstick and shoved him in his locker.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    All the way in his locker?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It's a euphemism, (if you know what I mean).

  • Hugh Akston||

    Of course. The eating disorder he developed after months of persistent abuse made it easy for him to fit inside.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    Ah, that's why his BMI is so low.

  • lap83||

    supportive for their eating disorders maybe

    (speaking as someone who worked in catering for sorority events for years...some stereotypes are true)

  • BYODB||


    We support this recommendation, and we urge University President Drew G. Faust to do so as well. It importantly expands the discourse beyond issues of gender inequality and sexual assault to the role exclusionary social organizations play in perpetuating outdated notions of elitism, classism, and exclusivity on campus


    Uhh...you guys are aware you go to Harvard, right? So you're already an elitist, a classist, and in a very exclusive club.


    Perhaps someone should suggest these retards go to a state school?


    I shouldn't paint with such a wide brush, of course. I'm sure there are many fine young people of a non-privileged background who attend, and it seems that the writers at the Crimson at least tangentially acknowledge that but fail, utterly, to realize how they are the 1% they appear to dislike.


    Which, upon reflection makes perfect sense. Most young adults rebel when they hit college, and what else would the children of the most privileged of people rebel against beyond...the privilege given to them by virtue of their birth.


    Illiberal project at it's finest.

  • Calidissident||

    Robby,

    Your line about Harvard being free to ban whatever groups they choose because they're private is correct from a libertarian POV, but I'm pretty sure they'd run afoul of anti-discrimination laws if they only banned fraternities.

  • Alan Vanneman||

    "Harvard is a private institution, so it can implement whatever policy it wants"

    Reason loves to make this mistake. Harvard is a non-profit corporation, probably under Massachusetts law. Corporations are, legally, "artificial persons". The law defines them and says what they can and cannot do. I'm sure Harvard cannot refuse to accept or hire blacks or Jews, etc. Non-profits have many tax advantages and must serve a public purpose to exist. Shockingly, my parents could not set up the "Alan Vanneman Scholarship Fund", donate money to it, deduct the amounts from their taxable income and award me a tax-free scholarship. In the good old days, when WASPs ran the world, Harvard could discriminate its ass off, but now not so much.

  • John||

    My God. Soave has managed to cause Venneman to make a correct and reasonable point. Words fail. Reading Venneman make an intelligent point is like seeing Big Foot and getting abducted by Aliens on the same day.

  • CE||

    Sounds like an episode from The Six Million Dollar Man. A good episode.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Two-parter even.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    In the good old days, when WASPs

    What're Jews, chopped liver?

  • John||

    Chopped white fish actually.

  • Alan Vanneman||

    Uh, not WASPs. The Institute for Advanced Studies, where Einstein used to hang his hat, is in Princeton rather than Harvard because the head of the Harvard math department didn't want to have to give jobs to Jews. The money for the center was donated by the Bamberger family, Jewish merchants in New York who more or less sold their department store to Macy's. It was Bamberger's that "invented" the Thanksgiving Day parade as a way to kick of the Christmas shopping season.

  • freedomlover||

    And I'm sure there is a butt load of federal and state grant funding they receive too. So don't give me this "private institution crap. More like, publicly subsidized, private elite club. One that's not the NFL.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    upgrade to a full-on ban its previous policy of imposing sanctions on students who join finals clubs.

    Sorry, Alumnus, School of Hard Knocks here, what is a 'finals club'?

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    ^ This guy attended a public high school.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I was enrolled at a public high school. Attendance? Not so much.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    I was enrolled at a public high school

    You're gutter trash.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Just because you were wearing a uniform with uncomfortably short pants doesn't mean you're better.

  • John||

    It just means he is more comfortable in his sexuality thanks to having a safe place to express it as an impressionable youth.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    You probably don't even wear sock garters.

    I'm surrounded by gutter trash.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Jokes on you, I only wear sock garters.

  • lap83||

    were?

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    If any of you gutter people knew style, you would realize how money this looks.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Huh, that's the same tattoo I have on my face.

  • lap83||

    I can't decide what my favorite part is, the squirting flower lapel pin or the wallet chain that looks like it was made with friendship bracelet beads

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Where da socks at?

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    the wallet chain that looks like it was made with friendship bracelet beads

    Nice. And it's tight money.

  • In Time Of War||

    Fuck. I knew the Hells Angels initiations were rough in the past, but this is just sick.

  • Ariki||

    "were?"

    Where do you think?
    How else do I keep the magnum condom on?

  • Necron 99||

    Not fit to own a monocle factory - or the children to staff it.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Social clubs exist at Harvard College that are unrecognized by Harvard itself. The oldest, dating to 1791, are the traditionally all-male final clubs. Fraternities were prominent in the late 1800s as well until their initial expulsions and then eventual resurrection off Harvard's campus in the 1990s.

    Huh... Ok. So like the Dead Poet's Society or something like that?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Except they fuck each other's assholes, and each other's sheep's assholes.

  • dantheserene||

    DR-
    More like the cinematic classic, "PCU".

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    If the committee seeks to combat exclusivity and foster belonging, arguably sororities can provide a supportive role by giving women a social space on campus.

    So we're still good for tonight's panty raid?

  • Longtobefree||

    Do they still wear panties? I thought they all had to wear boxer shorts now to keep the trans from feeling objectified.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    If some of its students find value in private, single-sex associations...

    Ha!

    ...a university is free to argue against, discourage, or even ridicule those choices.

    Homophobes.

  • John||

    Harvard is a private institution, so it can implement whatever policy it wants: a ban on only finals clubs and fraternities, a ban on all single-sex groups, whatever. Whether such a course of action is wise is another matter.

    No, it can't. As long as it accepts federal student aid it has to live by the rules of Title IX and cannot engage in discrimination based upon sex among its students. You can be a single-sex college, but once you accept both men and women, you have to treat them equally. It is curious that Soave covers colleges for a living and doesn't seem to understand this point.

  • Longtobefree||

    Robby? Understand?
    Welcome to Reason.

  • Marcus Aurelius||

    Who's going to fight that losing battle?

  • rudehost||

    He may be arguing this from a libertarian POV. From a libertarian perspective a private org could discriminate against men but a government institution could not. Not a hair I would split but I can't imagine this would pass muster if a lawsuit was filed.

  • freedomlover||

    "based upon sex among its students"

    College students should not be having sex among themselves.

    They should be spreading it around.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Steven Pinker, a professor of psychology at Harvard,

    Not for long, I'd imagine.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    As the only true libertarian on this site, I still believe that A Capella groups should be illegal.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Well, I didn't want it to come to this but I'll meet you outside tomorrow -- does high noon work for you?

  • CE||

    And deep dish pizza.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Which is the only real pizza.

  • ||

    Will the administration employ spies to make sure too many students of same sex aren't hanging out together in a club-esque way?

    Spies? That implies some manner of evidence or intelligence collection. Any good bureaucrat would see that groups of men are guilty inherently and that the only sensible solution would be for the men to purchase licenses and be issued women by the University.

  • John||

    The idea that a sorority would be a "safe space for women on campus" rather than a viper pit of backbiting, viciousness, and snobbery is something so stupid only a Harvard student could believe it.

  • Inigo Montoya||

    Oh come on now! Everybody knows that while men often verbally cut each other down, sometimes based on the most ridiculously minor differences, women are always super-supportive of each other in both words and actions.

    When you're a woman, it doesn't matter whether another female is in any way more attractive, smarter, more successful, wealthier, better connected, just stole your boyfriend, etc. You selflessly love her and support her just the same. Envy and jealousy are not emotions that women typically experience.

  • John||

    As someone once said "there is a special place in hell for a woman who won't support another woman."

  • Marcus Aurelius||

    You know who else said something ironic?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Magneto?

  • BYODB||

    I'm legitimately impressed you managed to finish that paragraph before laughing yourself into a coma.

  • Libertarian||

    You selflessly love her and support her just the same.

    As someone once said, I'll be in my bunk

  • John||

    The great thing about this nonsense is that they are only screwing themselves. Harvard isn't the only high-priced finishing school for upper-class legacy twits and affirmative action babies. There are plenty of other such places. And all of them compete for the same pool of students. So go ahead, Harvard. Ban greek life. And then watch your competitor schools who haven't done that attract your best applicants. Good luck with that.

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    Fun fact: the Hasty Pudding Club gave us five former presidents.

    Without the likes of the Hasty Pudding club, America would be run by gutter trash.

  • John||

    "Hasty Pudding", the Victorians really did have the best euphemisms. NTTAWWT

  • Entelechy||

    Victorians?
    The Hasty Pudding, AKA the Institute of 1770. began as a revolt against Puritan cooking before the American revolution.

    Robby should know by now that it's Final Clubs with no s on the Final. National fraternities were banned from Harvard after the Civil War and only re-appeared around the turn of the 20th century, welcomed back by antielitist progressives who wanted more downmarket undergrads admitted.

  • CE||

    Or Bonesmen. Oh, wait.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Bonesman was my nickname in college.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

  • John||

    Without fraternities, how are rich young men supposed to engage in homoerotic activity without questioning their sexuality? If these young men are deprived of the "its not gay if its a brother", we could end up with an entire generation of closet cases. And no one wants that.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I am always amazed at how far people will twist their logic to excuse themselves from being gay. The amount of times I've seen people refer to a "feminine penis" always gives me a chuckle. Just be gay, no one cares.

  • John||

    There is something about a certain breed of upper-class college guys that are prone to that. I turned down membership in two things in my life; a fraternity and the club rugby team in college. In both cases, it was because being a member involved some seriously gay shit by my standards at least. They all seemed happy and good for them. But all I could say was "not my thing pal".

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I just think they should be more open about it. Cognitive dissonance is out of control.

  • John||

    Me too. But they all seemed to go on and marry some upper-crust white girl and have three and a half children. Like I say, it lets them get their gay on without questioning their sexuality, which I guess some people need.

  • Tony||

    Do you suppose they consider it an inevitable part of respectable life that once they're done having fun in college, they'll live the rest of their life in relative misery to keep up appearances? Does that explain the stereotypical father figure who just sits and watches sportsball every night looking despondent?

  • John||

    I don't know Tony. I am not a closet case. So I can't claim to explain or understand them.

  • BYODB||

    Doubtful, I think it's more likely that the she-beast they married was a lot of fun until the second kid.

    Sure, they could be closeted for their entire life but I think the takeaway here is that fraternities (and most people of the time) considered the 'gay stuff' to be so debasing that most people would not be able to 'power through' it due to how despicable it was considered.

    Now, did that accidentally create a safe space for a perceived perversion in the hallowed halls of elite universities? Heh, well, yeah. Probably. ^_^

    These days if you want to let your freak flag fly, there isn't much reason not to. Even, or especially, in places like Harvard.

  • CE||

    Only if he's run out of beer.

  • MarkLastname||

    If you're suggesting sports are are surreptitiously homoerotic, then for once I agree.

    Like watching a bunch of buff men in tight pants grope each other? Gayyyyyy!

  • geo1113||

    Rule #1: No poofters.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Rule #2: No Yiddish

  • Crusty Juggler - Lawbertarian||

    But all I could say was "not my thing pal".

    Fun fact: young John was irresistible.

  • John||

    I had good grades and could drink without embarrassing myself much. That is what got me the invitation to the frat. And I had a friend from high school on the rugby club team who knew I was a very good open field tackler in high school football and various sandlot games. That was really about it.

  • freedomlover||

    Does anyone wonder why? There is a long history.

    "The early motto of Harvard was Veritas Christo et Ecclesiae, meaning "Truth for Christ and the Church". In the early classes, half the graduates became ministers (though by the 1760s the proportion was down to 15%) and ten of Harvard's first twelve presidents were ministers. Systematic theological instruction was inaugurated in 1721 and by 1827 Harvard became a nucleus of theological teaching in New England."

  • Brandybuck||

    First time I encountered a female penis I threw up over everything. Really spoiled the mood.

  • Juice||

    "feminine penis"

    Like a hyena?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Usually they mean trannys and crossdressers. It's just something people say to avoid having to admit to themselves that they exhibit homosexual tendencies. Particularly because many of the people I see say it seem to hate gays.

  • Think It Through||

    What? A feminine penis? Never heard of that in my life. Birds of a feather?

  • Brandybuck||

    Reminds me of the Brritish joke: "I'm not homosexual, but I did go to Eton"

  • John||

    It's only funny because it is true.

  • Brandybuck||

    It's not gay if you're wearing a skinny tie and blazer.

  • Vernon Depner||

    "No, no, leave 'em on."—David Lee Roth

  • dantheserene||

    VD-
    You are the wind beneath my wings with that comment.
    And DLR is my spirit animal.

  • Tony||

    I never understood why those guys couldn't experiment with their sexuality from the comfort of a dorm room. I guess the institution of the frat, with its macho trappings and faggoty-ass traditions, provides the safe space necessary to erase that line of discomfort between a young man and another young man who want to suck each other's cocks without being labelled gay.

  • John||

    For once we agree on something tony. I never got it either.

  • MarkLastname||

    I assume in the dorms it's harder to arrange a gangbang, which is the real trapping of a frat.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    If I recall, I walked around the Harvard campus back in the early aughts. Was in Boston for a biznatch trip. I was hoping to see a lot of people in blue blazers and turtle necks. But they just looked like regular sloppy college kids, wearing cargo shorts and uggs.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    They dress down to go swirlie to MIT students.

  • John||

    Most of the MIT students are one lab accident away from being a supervillain. I don't think screwing with them is a very good idea.

  • CE||

    And they have lots of lab accidents.

  • John||

    At the turn of the 20th Century, students at Oxford had to wear a cap and gown whenever attending classes or on campus, upon penalty of a very significant fine. They should go back to that.

  • Brandybuck||

    My university never had fraternities. Some students still formed their own off campus, but nothing officially recognized. I still don't understand the fascination over frats. I sort of imagine them being like Junior Bohemian Groves, and Richard Nixon remarking that his fraternity days were the "most goddamn faggy thing you could imagine".

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I dunno, I can imagine something pretty faggy.

  • BYODB||

    C'mon guy, it's Dick Nixon. The jokes write themselves even before you get into the fact that an anagram of Spiro Agnew is 'Grow a Penis'.

  • CE||

    It's from watching Animal House.

  • Tony||

    Harvard students use "impact" as a verb?

  • Ornithorhynchus||

    Harvard President Faust.

    What sort of deal did he have to make to get that job?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    *golf clap*

  • Tony||

    Al Pacinoian?

  • Entelechy||

    Demons are coming next June to drag her back to Bryn Mawr.

  • Tony||

    So is the next generation of social justice warriors going to realize the problem of attacking classism and elitism from within Harvard and demand that Harvard be shut down?

  • NoVaNick||

    Harvard be shut down

    We could only be so lucky.

  • Tony||

    What exactly would you gain from shutting down arguably the most prestigious academic institution in the world?

    Besides fewer intelligent people questioning your infantile bullshit, I mean.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Ah, so now we correlate intelligence with Harvard. How quaint.

  • Bra Ket||

    Roughly a thousand less legacy bluebloods a year getting that particular "most prestigious academic institution in the world stamp" on their resumes and its immediate advantage over smarter people who worked much harder to get into lower ranked schools?

  • MarkLastname||

    Precisely.

    Ivy League fetishism is the grossest fetus here there is.

  • Incomprehensible Bitching||

    Besides the obvious Social Justice Warrior victory?

  • Elias Fakaname||

    They shouldn't call themselves social justice 'warriors'. When I meet one, I offer to engage them in mortal combat. Every one of them freaks out and threatens to call the cops (deeply ironic when you think about it).

    For a bunch of warriors, they sure are huge pussies.

  • Ariki||

    Tony, your world is just one giant jumble of conflicting ideals.
    How you manage to function is fascinating.

  • NoVaNick||

    What exactly would you gain from shutting down arguably the most prestigious academic institution in the world?

    Think of what it would do to the self esteem of the 1%...

  • NoVaNick||

    Besides fewer intelligent people questioning your infantile bullshit, I mean.

    Harvard lives by its past reputation. What have they done for us recently? Oh yeah, Mark Zuckerberg-umm-thanks Harvard...GW Bush and Bill Clinton-two other fine Harvard products.

  • freedomlover||

    Here's a list:

    https://tinyurl.com/hqdok3g

    It says something.

  • CE||

    Just open Harvard up to everyone. Make admissions by lottery if space is limited. It's the only way to be sure that socio-economic-other-possibly-discriminatory factors aren't subconsciously weighed in the application process.

  • Sugarsail||

    ah yes...politically correct feminism. Let the gals do whatever they want because "girl power!" but don't let any good-ol-boys clubs exist! What if those frats were homosexuals? Man that would really put the politically correct police in a bind.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Or all-black like the tri-lams.

  • freedomlover||

    We had an all black frat on campus back in 1977. They wore red jackets that said "The Only All Black Greek" and all drove red, brand new, 1976 Firebird Trans Ams. All of them were also football players and, because we were a division III school and no financial incentives were allowed, the Trans Ams were provided to them by alumni.

    The multiple dichotomies really pissed me off.

    Things have gotten a lost worse since then.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Suing colleges will soon be a cottage industry.

  • Bra Ket||

    "One of the essential values in higher education is that people can differ in their values, and that these differences can be constructively discussed." -Steven Pinker

    Isn't he adorable.

  • Uncle Jay||

    RE: Harvard Crimson: University Is Right to Ban Fraternities, Wrong to Ban Sororities
    Assault on freedom of association

    1. No sexism there.
    2. Freedom of association is what the ruling says it is, not what it really is.
    3. Harvard, where the over-educated idiots go to their proper social indoctrination.

  • CE||

    Live by Title 9, die by Title 9. Goose, gander....

  • Chuckles_the_Snarky_Piggy||

    Sounds like a bunch of dipshits who never read Harry Potter. Otherwise they would realize they are taking the Delores Umbridge path.

    Next they'll ban quidditch, i suppose...

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    I propose a slight amendment to the article's last sentence: "Pinker is right. Harvard—and The Crimson—deserve all the opprobrium they're [NOT] likely to receive"

    The liberal elitists who haunt Harvard's hallowed halls won't think the Crimson is wrong, neither will their connections or backers. Most liberals on the street will think this is just peachy dandy. The only folks who will be upset about this are libertarians and conservatives, and very few out there really give a tinker's dam what we think or say.

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