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Ohio University Wants to Impose Cultural Sensitivity Training After Students Wrote 'Trump 2016' on Free Speech Wall

Punishing students for wrongthink.

Trump 2016Robby Soave / ReasonOhio University students enjoy broad free speech rights—but after exercising those rights in a "Trump 2016" kind of way, they might be forced to take cultural sensitivity training. 

Indeed, OU President Roderick McDavis recently assured students who were offended by the appearance of pro-Trump messages on a campus free speech wall that he is "working to accelerate the development of a cultural competency element for freshman orientation," according to Campus Reform. 

McDavis made this remark during his appearance at an emergency meeting of the Hispanic and Latino Student Union late last week (as an aside, I'm calling problematic on that group: the name isn't gender neutral). The meeting was called after someone wrote "Trump 2016" and "Build the Wall!" on an area for expression where anything goes. One student, theater major Simone Alexander, opined that mandatory cultural competency classes are the no-brainer solution to other students writing things she doesn't like. 

To be clear: McDavis was not suggesting that the perpetrators be cleansed of their wrongthink. Instead, he was agreeing with irate students that incoming freshmen should be subjected to training that makes them less likely to subscribe to wrongthink in the first place. 

I'm of course using the term "wrongthink" very loosely here, since it's far from clear the person who wrote "Build the Wall!" actually holds that view. Perhaps he or she just wanted to make a provocative statement, or test the OU's commitment to honoring its free expression obligations—a test OU seems well-prepared to fail. 

The university should not expect incoming freshman to be indoctrinated into the safe space ethos as a precondition of settling into campus life. On the contrary, the proper place to expose students to contrary ideas remains the classroom. McDavis should leave matters in the hands of OU's many, undoubtedly very liberal faculty members—who no doubt spend plenty of time trying to persuade students to submit to a certain ideology.

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  • Notorious UGCC||

    "opined that mandatory cultural competency classes are the no-brainer solution"

    That's true.

  • croaker||

    I thought the campus was run by Dr. Neil O'Heret Brain.

  • Tak Kak||

    "the Hispanic and Latino Student Union"

    I reckon they had to make sure the Iberians felt included.

  • ||

    I can't wait until we go full-retard PC and outright racial slurs are used for their inclusiveness.

  • Princess Trigger||

    Union of Porch Monkeys - Taking it back!

  • Tak Kak||

    They already are!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....99494.html

    (Might be a good tactic to avoid criticism, white people won't even dare mention their name.)

    Only the correct slur though, things like "illegal immigrant" are simply not okay!

  • GILMORE™||

    Oh, how i was tempted to comment "ITS OK THEYS ALL BEANERS TO ME"

  • Rhywun||

    Huh? "Hispanic" has never included "born in Europe" that I can recall.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Rhywun||

    True. It's always seemed to me a sort of victim pigeonhole. You can't pin them down by race so they just invented a category out of nothing.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Yes, I had a colleague in medical school from Spain, who got in on the same affirmative action had she been from Mexico or Peru. Had she lived a few miles west in Portugal, so sorry, she would have been a European White Privileged person and not eligible for the lower admission standards.

    She was actually very bright and no doubt would have been accepted on any admissions scale, but she did get a kick out of pointing out that she was minority status, unlike those Europeans in our class.

  • Rhywun||

    So bizarre. I honestly had no idea that "hispanic" includes people from Spain.

  • GILMORE™||

    ASS WHAT I SAID. BEENERS

  • GILMORE™||

    You might as well start calling a random group of people "Xardozians" or "Marcurtanese" and it would have the same semantic power as "Hispanic".

    I suppose it *will* require contact with actual extra-terrestrial species before the planet realizes the term "white" is equally stupid and arbitrary.

  • Azathoth!!||

    'Hispanic' is a 'feel-good' category for lefties.

    By lumping everyone who speaks Spanish(and possibly Portuguese) into one huge category they can say thing like 'In 20-blah, whites will be a minority"

    It's the same thing they do when they separate Ashkenazi Jews from the rest of the white population when discussing IQ--by doing this 'whites' come in 'third', after Asians.

    Or how Hispanics themselves are ALL 'white' when they commit a crime, but 'brown' when they're victims of crime.

  • Rational Exuberance||

    Today people from diverse nationalities, ethnic backgrounds, even cultural mindsets, culinary tastes, have been grouped together under the tag (slur?) of Hispanic or Latino, thanks to the evil-doings of the U.S. Census Bureau and the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.

    So Democrats and progressives doing what they do best? Impose racism from up high?

  • Vernon Depner||

    Latini?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Also, WTF OSU, I thought you were cool.

  • ||

    Aren't most all 20 year olds pretty much this stupid?

    I keep trying to think this is unprecedented but I vaguely remember being pretty stupid at this age myself.

  • Foo_dd||

    I'm pretty sure we were this stupid... but no "adults" pandered to us like this. we were told we were being stupid. they are having their stupidity reaffirmed.

  • ||

    I was in the Air Force at age 20 working on things like Terrain Following Radar computers which required a very precise alignment to keep from doing things like breaking very expensive airplanes and possibly killing aircrew.

    I wasn't as stupid as these pansies are when I was 15. Fuck 'em with a running chain saw and send 'em off somewhere for two years of immersion in the lives of people who have real fucking problems instead of First World Panty Wadding Syndrome.

  • This Machine||

    +1 wonky TF/TA radar

  • Hyperbolical||

    It's amazing what the military can accomplish through 18, 19, and 20 year olds. In contrast, the American university-- in some departments-- seems to encourage the opposite characteristics. Students in sociological studies seem to embrace their adolescence and childish helplessness. These muffins would have a nervous breakdown were they to find themselves on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier with their life and the lives of others dependent on them doing their job correctly. Contrarily, kids a with far less formal education do a better job.

    It's all a matter of contrast to me. When the alternative is dier and the outcome one of life and death, the issues universities are so concerned with dissipate like the morning mist into the light of day.

  • Bureaucratic_Sex_Creep||

    You can say whatever makes you feel good about Militaristic Patriotism (I'm making some assumptions about you) but the average person working a flight deck in the Military only needed the equivalent of an 8th grade education to obtain that position. They also get a great deal of benefits to do it.

  • Cloudbuster||

    OU, not OSU.

  • ant1sthenes||

    His link is about OSU, not OU.

  • W. Chipper Dove||

    Oh, you!

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Ohio University, no THE Ohio State.

  • spqr2008||

    The real question is, after attending UofM during the Hoke years, can Robby tell them apart?

  • esteve7||

    Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. They are fascists who would put you all in an oven if they could. Freedom is only the freedom to think and act the way they want you to

  • ||

    And what got all this started? Political support expressed for someone they disagree with. That is what this has been about from the beginning; shutting down political discourse. It was never and is not now about cultural sensitivity or equality. It is about producing enough useful idiots to do their bullying for them.

    Now, if only they could do away with that pesky second amendment.

  • ||

    Follow Warren's 'logic' or people who call for the arrest of climate change skeptics. You're a fool if you think they'd contain themselves to their demands. They're going to demand more and more blood from their opponents.

    It can end up in ovens.

    They're evil little twirps.

  • ||

    Man, what would 'suck my cock' get you?

  • Doctor Whom||

    A charge for verbal rape wouldn't surprise me.

  • commodious spittoon||

    A round of applause for your sex-positive homoerotic invitation to engage in intercourse. Er, dialogue.

  • Rational Exuberance||

    Attention from people cis-gendered heterosexual males usually don't want attention from.

  • BiMonSciFiCon||

    I would make a joke about how they'll let you keep your brain after they get re-neducated, but these kids don't seem to have much to remove in the first place.

  • Doctor Whom||

    as an aside, I'm calling problematic on that group: the name isn't gender neutral

    I love the way the goodthinkful painted themselves into a corner by expecting a heavily gendered language to be something other than it was and the way they've been trying to escape that corner ever since. When I mentioned that to one of them, he quickly changed the subject.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Huspanic and Latini Student Union. There, I saved the day.

    I still say all this language gender policing is secretly being funded by Big Esperanto.

  • ant1sthenes||

    Latinx, you yokel. A relative of the jaguar, I think.

  • Juvenile Bluster||

    I thought it was Latin@. Is the x more inclusive?

  • Ted S.||

    That's not a valid e-mail address.

  • Wasteland Wanderer||

    Latinx sounds like a Spanish-language Linux distro.

  • Winston||

    Bernie Sanders defended the Sandinistas by saying that opposition groups that advocate "killing people" should be suppressed and not too long ago he said that Paul Walker's ideology "kills people" so we all know where this is going. And they sure as hell think that libertarians "kill people" too.

  • ||

    Their mask is slipping. Over at The Hill today, one of the Bernie supporters said, after it was pointed out that millions were killed by leftist regimes in the Soviet Union and Communist China, that those were just selfish twits anyway. No really, someone said that. All of them are also now denying that Bernie is a socialist, despite that he makes that claim himself. They say he's a 'socialist democrat' and that is totally different. They also love to talk about Scandinavian countries and how much better all the countries are than the USA, because they have this 'democratic socialism'. If you ask them what the tax rates are in those countries, they freak the fuck out and start name calling.

    You cannot reason with these people and if you think they wouldn't send their political adversaries to death camps the first chance they get, you're totally naive and not listening to what they are saying.

  • Winston||

    Nuh huh, Libertarian Moment and weed, Mexicans and ass-sex.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Shut the fuck up, Donny.

  • __Warren__||

    You cannot reason with these people and if you think they wouldn't send their political adversaries to death camps the first chance they get, you're totally naive and not listening to what they are saying.

    It's a mistake by them and you to assume that they're the ones who are going to be doing the killing.

  • Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair||

    I read that "Paul Walker" as really meaning "Scott Walker". Was that too libertarian of me?

  • Winston||

    Damn it!!

    Edit Button?

  • Winston||

    Oh I realize that I made an unintentional dark joke...

  • commodious spittoon||

    Just don't get your Fast & Furious all over the southern border... we went down that road once already.

  • Glide||

    Hey, Bernie believes that one or two brands of cars is enough. All these fancy Chargers and Skyline GT-Rs are a market inefficiency that could be used to feed starving children.

  • Winston||

    Lenin:

    Everyone is free to write and say whatever he likes, without any restrictions. But every voluntary association (including the party) is also free to expel members who use the name of the party to advocate anti-party views. Freedom of speech and the press must be complete. But then freedom of association must be complete too. I am bound to accord you, in the name of free speech, the full right to shout, lie and write to your heart’s content. But you are bound to grant me, in the name of freedom of association, the right to enter into, or withdraw from, association with people advocating this or that view. The party is a voluntary association, which would inevitably break up, first ideologically and then physically, if it did not cleanse itself of people advocating anti-party views.

  • Winston||

    That was Lenin in 1905.

    This is Lenin in power:

    You cannot do anything without rousing the masses to action. A plenary meeting of the Soviet must be called to decide on mass searches in Petrograd and the goods stations. To carry out these searches, each factory and company must form contingents, not on a voluntary basis: it must be the duty of everyone to take part in these searches under the threat of being deprived of his bread card. We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism: speculators must be shot on the spot. Moreover, bandits must be dealt with just as resolutely: they must be shot on the spot.

  • ||

    So. Bipolar or was he 'evolving'?

  • Winston||

    Which ever point of view justified ridding himself of his opponents at the time.

  • Rational Exuberance||

    His views were neither evolving nor bipolar. They were "situational".

  • TheZeitgeist||

    One student, theater major Simone Alexander, opined...


    Sometimes, the jokes write themselves.

  • The Grinch||

    Free speech in the US really is under assault. When the right is ascendant they want to censor and attack free expression. When the left is ascendant, they do the same, only to different people and more effectively. The majority of the population has become comfortable with the idea of "free speech for others so long as they agree with me." It's easy to get a warped view of the general public's attitude towards free speech by hanging out at libertarian websites.

    At least when the libertarians are ascendant free speech will...ah, fuck it.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "The right" doesn't always censor, but when it does, it's generally by enforcing and strengthening the obscenity laws - call this misguided if you wish, but it's not that the want to use "obscenity" as an excuse to censor left-wing political advocacy.

    But Progressives most assuredly want to censor political advocacy, under the rationale of "campaign finance reform" and "hate speech."

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I should say under the rationale of "suppressing hate speech."

    And don't forget hostile environment law - employers are at risk if the allow the wrong kind of free speech in the workplace.

  • Winston||

    More Lenin:

    Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in the ancient Greek republics: freedom for the slave-owners.

    No mercy for these enemies of the people, the enemies of socialism, the enemies of the working people! War to the death against the rich and their hangers-on, the bourgeois intellectuals; war on the rogues, the idlers and the rowdies!

    We must not depict socialism as if socialists will bring it to us on a plate all nicely dressed. That will never happen. Not a single problem of the class struggle has ever been solved in history except by violence. When violence is exercised by the working people, by the mass of exploited against the exploiters — then we are for it!

  • Winston||

    Some Mao:

    "You are dictatorial." My dear sirs, you are right, that is just what we are. All the experience the Chinese people have accumulated through several decades teaches us to enforce the people's democratic dictatorship, that is, to deprive the reactionaries of the right to speak and let the people alone have that right.

  • Winston||

    Lenin:
    When we are reproached with having established a dictatorship of one party and, as you have heard, a united socialist front is proposed, we say, "Yes, it is a dictatorship of one party! This is what we stand for and we shall not shift from that position because it is the party that has won, in the course of decades, the position of vanguard of the entire factory and industrial proletariat. This party had won that position even before the revolution of 1905. It is the party that was at the head of the workers in 1905 and which since then — even at the time of the reaction after 1905 when the working-class movement was rehabilitated with such difficulty under the Stolypin Duma — merged with the working class and it alone could lead that class to a profound, fundamental change in the old society.

  • ||

    You know who else called for fundamental changes in society?

  • Intraveneous Woodchipper||

    Obama? Hitler? Or is that redundant...

  • commodious spittoon||

    Crest® brand whitening strips?

  • ||

    John Wooden?

  • EMD||

    The Society of Fundamental Changes in Society Association?

  • Winston||

    [Pol Pot] sacrificed his entire life … to defend national sovereignty (and) in demanding social justice. There was no policy of starving people. Nor was there any direction set out for carrying out mass killings. There was always close consideration of the people's well-being.

    Khieu Samphan, "Reflection on Cambodian History Up to the Era of Democratic Kampuchea"

  • TheZeitgeist||

    Bernie Sanders version:


    We must not depict socialism as if socialists will bring it to us on a plate all nicely dressed. That will never happen. Not a single problem of the class struggle has ever been solved in history except by violence rainbows. When violence rainbows is exercised by the working people, by the mass of exploited against the exploiters — then we are for it!

  • LynchPin1477||

    I don't think Bernie is above using violence.

  • Zeb||

    Obviously. He is running for president.

  • Winston||

    Defended the Sandinistas, Castro and supported the Kosovo war...so yes.

  • LynchPin1477||

    as an aside, I'm calling problematic on that group: the name isn't gender neutral

    Bravo.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    OR BRAVA.

  • Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair||

    Or perhaps Brava, unless that be cultural appropriation.

  • Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair||

    Well at least I got the caps right and the secondary affect.

  • commodious spittoon||

    It's like they have no idea that they're part of the problem.

  • croaker||

    xHamster cut off all North Carolina IP addresses. That might just tip the scales.

  • Hammer of liberty||

    Or they'll just go to pornhub.

  • ant1sthenes||

    I read the article, and he snidely pointed out how many North Carolina addresses searched for gay porn. Apparently, because businesses might hypothetically discriminate against gay North Carolinans, he will retaliate by... discriminating against gay North Carolinans.

  • Eternal Blue Sky||

    I wonder if people ever think about their acts of boycotting. Their actions never seem to make any damn sense.

  • Zeb||

    Cultural sensitivity training? Seems like a good idea. These fragile students need to be more sensitive to the fact that things like supporting Trump or Israel or not being sure about which bathrooms transgender people ought to use are parts of the American culture. They certainly aren't being sensitive to the cultures of those they disagree with politically.

    Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here? (Yes, I'm joking)

  • ||

    I don't know. If I was a student who somehow got caught up in this bull shit and the school asked me to take such classes, I'd tell them to give me my money back and to fuck off.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here? (Yes, I'm joking)

    That's just it though, isn't it? What they're missing is the fact that, once this threshold is breached, it doesn't stay selectively breached. They want to throw out liberty to get rid of the icky people. But, what happens when the icky people get to be in charge? You want to have the school tell everyone what their opinions are allowed to be? Well, what happens when it's President Trump who gets what's an acceptable opinion and what isn't?

  • LynchPin1477||

    That's when they turn to violence. Because what else is left at that point?

  • Ted S.||

    It always distresses me to see how many William Ropers we have.

  • spqr2008||

    Most people are only fans of one season.

  • buybuydandavis||

    To the reeducation camps with the reactionaries!

  • The Last American Hero||

    Apparently cultural sensitivity doesn't apply to students or their parents that came out of communist or former communist countries having to deal with kids that run around campus wanting to Feel the Bern.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Those lucky duckies got to enjoy the wonders of communism first-hand! They should feel fortunate for their experience. You know, check their privilege before the jackboots have to check it for them.

  • Eternal Blue Sky||

    Yeah, my Great-Great Uncle had the PRIVILEGE of being exiled to Siberia where he died.

  • ||

    "Davis was not suggesting that the perpetrators be cleansed of their wrongthink. Instead, he was agreeing with irate students that incoming freshmen should be subjected to training that makes them less likely to subscribe to wrongthink in the first place. "

    "a test OU seems well-prepared to fail."

    "Davis should leave matters in the hands of OU's many, undoubtedly very liberal faculty members—who no doubt spend plenty of time trying to persuade students to submit to a certain ideology."

    Not bad.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Davis made this remark during his appearance at an emergency meeting of the Hispanic and Latino Student Union late last week."

    Can you imagine the stupid tweets that must go out to announce these things?

    "Emergency Drum Circle on the Quad in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . RIGHT FREAKING NOW!!!"

  • Winston||

    Reason is feeling awfully Der Morgen for me:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Morgen

    And judging by Matt's fondness for Bernie does that make him the Wilhelm Külz?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Külz

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Davis should leave matters in the hands of OU's many, undoubtedly very liberal faculty members—who no doubt spend plenty of time trying to persuade students to submit to a certain ideology.

    Do I detect a rebuke?

  • Cloudbuster||

    I read a recent article that measured different candidates supporters on different traits and Sanders' supporters had the lowest "authoritarian" rating. That made me laugh, as their entire ideology is based on authoritarian use of government power. Not saying the aren'ts *aren't* authoritarian, but socialist societies are particularly so.

  • Uncle Jay||

    RE: Ohio University Wants to Impose Cultural Sensitivity Training After Students Wrote 'Trump 2016' on Free Speech Wall

    Obviously these students have not been indoctrinated into the group think the over-educated idiots who teach at our re-education camps here in the Union of Soviet Socialist Slave States of America.
    But have faith, comrades.
    Indoctrination does not allow for free speech. That is reserved for the ruling elitists and their minions in higher education. These politically incorrect students will have their thoughts policed daily while at these tax payer supported institutions of higher propaganda.
    After all, it's for not only the student's own good, but for the good of their obvious betters enslaving us all.

  • Winston||

    Robby Soave thinks BOEK LARNIN EZ 4 FAGZ!/Warty

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Satire only works if the ridicule is accurately targeted.

  • ||

    OT: Why is it called a pine APPLE?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Um, racism?

    Sexism?

    Hitler?

    Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.

    /prog student

  • Zeb||

    Well, the Spanish name for it, "Piña", is the same as the word for pine cone, presumably because of the appearance. And "Apple" is used in the English names for a number of fruits as a sort of generic word for a fruit.

  • Juvenile Bluster||

    Cultural appropriation by Americans putting the name of an American fruit onto the name of a fruit most commonly found growing where persons of color live.

  • ||

    It's actually PIE napple.

    In the colonial era Dutch bakers used a utensil called the napple to imprint the top of pies with a distinctive pattern. When they discovered the fruit, they were intrigued by the similarity between its spiky rind, and the texture of the napple.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Rufus, if your were a fruit you'd be a fineapple.

    If you were a vegetable I would visit you in the hospital as often as time permits.

  • ||

    You can have all my Canadian Tire money*.

    *Est. value $2.25.

  • Wasteland Wanderer||

  • Rich||

    "working to accelerate the development of a cultural competency element for freshman orientation"

    I'll bite, President Davis. What exactly does that mean?

    Ima guess you're trying to require Swahili as well as Spanish and English signs throughout campus.

  • ||

    You baggers just don't understand that because you rednecks don't have any education. Just like you don't understand what socialism is. If you did, you'd understand that Bernie is the good kind of socialists, like in Norway and Denmark. That's the good socialism and it's way better than the USA. Have I ever been there? What does that matter, I saw a site that says it's better there because socialism and everything is free! Taxes? You greedy capitalists only think about money!

  • LynchPin1477||

    There is also a term in Dutch that I think basically translates to "not wanting to be excellent". I can't Google it right now, but there is a cultural disapproval of people who seem to succeed too much.

    Sorry, but fuck that. I'll take human excellence and relative inequality to the slow death of cultural stagnation and ignorant bliss. I don't usually stoop to the whole "love it or leave it" thing, but anyone who is really that infatuated with Scandinavian socialism should consider that their English is really quite good.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "There is also a term in Dutch that I think basically translates to "not wanting to be excellent". I can't Google it right now" -

    An excellent person would have.

  • Hamster of Doom||

    He might be working on gravitational wavelengths that can map the universe. But he's probably just searching for porn.

  • MSimon||

    Ted Cruz is married to Goldman Sachs.

  • ||

    Jesus was a socialist, must like Bernie!

  • ||

    just like

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Well, they are also both non-practicing Jews.

  • Quincy.||

    And both worked as carpenters too!

  • commodious spittoon||

    And both have very strict ideas about what people should be allowed to do with their money...

  • Quincy.||

    Bernie at an international airport.

    "Care to change your money, sir."
    B: "Yes, yes I do, I demand the bankers and the Fed stop manipulating the money supply for the sole benefit of the the 1%. To that end, I'll put farmers and teachers on the board of the FMOC."
    "No, actually, sir, I asked if you wish to purchase some Euros. You are in the European departure terminal, after all."
    B: "Ah. I hear what you are saying." He slaps bills onto counter.
    "Here you are, sir."
    B:"3% fee!" He starts pounding on the polycarbonate window and demands a sit-in.

    Fin

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    And both met the Pope!

  • CraigL||

    Has anyone stopped to notice that not all "students" are 18 yrs old. Actual adults go back to school also--are you going to force "competency training" on45 yr olds?

  • Rich||

    It goes without saying -- *especially* on those old farts.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Court Dismisses ACLU Lawsuit Attempting to Force Catholic Hospital to Do Abortions

    "[A federal district court in Michigan] called the ACLU’s claims of harm from the hospital system’s pro-life position “dubious,”...

    "[Also,] the lawsuit is not “ripe for review,” meaning that nothing has happened to warrant court action: “Obviously, pregnancy alone is not a ‘particular condition’ that requires the termination of said pregnancy. To find the claim to be ripe for review on the facts pleaded before this Court would be to grant a cause of action to every pregnant woman in the state of Michigan upon the date of conception. Accordingly, the alleged harm has not risen beyond a speculative nature and is not ripe for review.”

    "In a federal lawsuit against Trinity, which is one of the largest Catholic health systems in the country, the ACLU explained that their doctors refused to perform abortions on five women who suffered preterm, premature rupture of membranes. This complication arises when the amniotic sac breaks and leaves no fluid around the unborn child. In these cases, the unborn babies often die; but the ACLU wants to force the Catholic employer to abort babies in these situations."

  • Notorious UGCC||

    (The Catholic defendant is the Trinity Health Corporation)

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Interesting that Catholic hospitals don't have to perform abortions on religious grounds and Home Depot doesn't have to fund certain types of birth control, but when wedding cakes come into the picture all hell breaks loose.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Uh, what do you mean?

  • GILMORE™||

    the no-brainer solution

    indeed. it describes who it 'works' for perfectly.

  • wef||

    coakley is the only forbidden word

  • Notorious UGCC||

    ?

  • Winston||

    Jackie from UVA?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I thought it meant Martha.

  • __Warren__||

    Wayne or Kent?

  • Quincy.||

    I thought it was cunt.

  • __Warren__||

    Lads take hold of that trollop's incestuous lower appendage!

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Today is International Louie Louie Day

    It's like, official, or something because "Louie Louie Day is now officially registered with the National Special Events Registry and Chase's Calendar of Events, the two leading sources of special events, holidays and observances."

    So here you go

  • Winston||

  • Quincy.||

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Oh, it's covers you want?

    Here

    and here

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Quincy.||

    Girls playing "Louie Louie" or GTFO.

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Quincy.||

    Thank you.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    It's also the feast day of the Polish version of St. Thomas Becket.

    St. Stanislaus, a medieval bishop of Krakow, excommunicated the King of Poland.

    "King Bolesław sent his men to execute Bishop Stanisław without trial but when they didn't dare to touch the Bishop, the King decided to kill the bishop himself....

    "The murder stirred outrage through the land and led to the dethronement of King Bolesław..."

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I guess King Bolesław was a more "hands on" guy than Henry II in England.

  • __Warren__||

    At least he lent his name to a tasty side dish.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    If we're doing obvious jokes, then the king misheard these lyrics.

  • Richie||

    [unrelated]

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  • W. Chipper Dove||

    He was pals with the Earl of Sandwich.

  • MSimon||

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "He said of her novel The Fountainhead, “It relates to business (and) beauty (and) life and inner emotions. That book relates to … everything.”"

    Trump added, "actually, I didn't read the whole book, just that one scene...my campaign staff doesn't me to say which one."

  • __Warren__||

    There's not one Randian hero that would have any respect for Trump. He would have Toohey, Mouch, Boyle and the like surrounding him.

  • LynchPin1477||

    To be fair, there's not one Randian hero that would have respect for *any* actual human being. Other than Ayn Rand, of course.

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Quincy.||

    I love Dick Cheese. Wait, that came out wrong.

  • __Warren__||

    Can dick cheese come out right?

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  • Notorious UGCC||

    Rick Astley didn't cover this.

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Notorious UGCC||

    John Dowland, not performed by Sting

    You're welcome

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Quincy.||

    End of this month, I'll spend a few days a block away from Portland State University. How should I troll?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "Pacifiers! Get yer free pacifiers here!"

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "Get yer free shirts! All-natural earth color! Get your snazzy polished boots!"

  • JagerIV||

    Ok, you win this one. You you want to expensively troll, you could offer all natural animal cruitaly free leather jacket.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Kick out the Jams

    (a couple NSFW words)

  • Quincy.||

    Is this a comment on Michigan Public Sector Union Pension policy?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    No, I'm just laying out some of my favorite tunes.

  • Quincy.||

    Understood. Rocks out.

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Notorious UGCC||

  • Agammamon||

    I'm of course using the term "wrongthink" very loosely here, since it's far from clear the person who wrote "Build the Wall!" actually holds that view. Perhaps he or she just wanted to make a provocative statement, or test the OU's commitment to honoring its free expression obligations.

    No - you're using exactly right.

    Wanting to make a provocative statement or test OU - those *are* wrongthink.

    Accept what you're told and learn that espousing two contradictory ideals is *not* hypocrisy.

  • straffinrun||

  • Hamster of Doom||

    HuffPo yelled at the porn site for daring to support Trump, so it's good that none of the involved have any principles to bog down the issue.

  • straffinrun||

    You will be in lock step. That counts as principle.

  • Agammamon||

    Eh, nobody uses xHamster anyway.

  • GILMORE™||

    “Back in March, we had 400,000 hits for the term ‘Transsexual’ from North Carolina alone,” he said. “People from that state searched ‘Gay’ 319,907 times,”

    Hey, that's got to be at least 20 or 30 married men right there .

  • Azathoth!!||

    Does anyone else find it strange that the number for 'gay' searches is so precise--but the number for 'transexual' is a vague, round number?

    Particularly since they know the exact number.......?

  • __Warren__||

    Lying cop caught lying, non-cop still facing charges.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=085_1460435881

  • B. Woodrow Chippenhaus||

    The goal will be to make the defendant plead guilty to some lesser charge. Cop gets a medal for bravery.

  • Glide||

    I'm getting mixed signals here. Are we meeting girls, or adults?

  • JagerIV||

    we really do need a like button. And a good, proper, libertarian free and communal one!

  • jbsnc||

    Long ago some much wiser than I stated 'liberal' colleges would be among those leading the way in defeating the letter and spirit of the Magna Carta and Constitution. I doubted this. I was wrong. Can't allow peaceful freedom of speech but paid for BLM rioting is OK.

  • Game||

    Memo to University of Ohio: Recently, the president of the University of Missouri sent a letter to all departments and faculty informing them that because enrollment had plummeted, including transfers out of the university, that he would be forced to make across-the-board budget cuts to all departments and instill a hiring freeze to help with the university's $32 million budget shortfall. It seems the special snowflakes at the University of Missouri and their pre-school behavior of arguing over nap spaces and graham crackers have cost the university not just their reputation, but also plenty of money. No word on if the football program survived 2016 recruiting.

  • joebanana||

    Holy crap, this country is frigging insane.

  • joebanana||

    This site needs a moderator, or a "report" button.

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  • LV||

    Trump! Trump! Trump! (mostly to piss off the assholes that think it is bad to disagree with the folks in power.....)

  • LV||

    Trump! Trump! Trump! (mostly to piss off the assholes that think it is bad to disagree with the folks in power.....)

  • Drew07||

    "McDavis made this remark during his appearance at an emergency meeting..."

    Plenty of solid comments about the sad reality of rampant stupidity on many college campuses and it isn't getting any better when "emergency" meetings are being called because someone is upset about a name, posted on a wall. Natural disaster? Call an emergency meeting. Man-made disaster?(real, not imagined) follow the emergency meeting response protocol. But the reaction, the declaration of emergency, is driving this as much as anything. It gives the "injured" party the impression that a hurt feeling is an actual emergency.

    Honestly, I'm new here. I'm also somewhat new to Libertarianism. But stupidity like this has a familiar ring and tone. Emergency? It is barely intelligible and thoroughly annoying.

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