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Donald Trump Drives the Media Crazy

There are legitimate reasons to worry about what Trump might do. So why make things up?

President Donald Trump drives people crazy.

Especially those in the media.

They hate him so much, they leap on every anti-Trump rumor.

The Federalist's Jordyn Pair points out that the press repeatedly told us that a dozen Trump administration members were about to be fired, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Press Secretary Sean Spicer and strategists Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner.

Months later, all still work for or with the administration.

I actually wish Sessions had been fired, but Trump's staff reshufflings are no more frequent than those of other administrations, including President Obama's. The media so desperately want something bad to happen, to prove Trump's unqualified, that they blow stuff up.

New York Times writers are so upset by Trump's rants against them that they act like he's a Venezuelan dictator who will shut them down. (Wait, don't Times socialists like Venezuelan dictators?)

"Independent Press Is Under Siege as Freedom Rings" was one recent headline.

The evidence?

"The First Amendment," wrote the normally sensible media columnist Jim Rutenberg, "is under near-daily assault from the highest levels of the government."

The "assault" cited was Trump's tweeting out a fake wrestling video, which depicted, as Rutenberg put it, "himself tackling and beating a figure with a CNN logo superimposed."

So what? The video, like professional wrestling, was childish and unpresidential. But it doesn't put the press "under siege." It's a lame joke.

Rutenberg goes on to ask how we can feel good about Independence Day and press freedom "when the president lashes out at The Washington Post by making a veiled threat against the business interests of its owner, Jeff Bezos, suggesting that his other company, Amazon, is a tax avoider. (Where have we seen that sort of thing before—Russia maybe?)"

Hello? In Russia, Putin probably murdered reporters. Trump merely suggested that Bezos dodges taxes.

I threw that at Rutenberg. He emailed back, "That wasn't a reference to murder (but) to executive authority using tax code to squelch free-speech." In Russia, media that criticized Putin were raided and accused of tax fraud.

But Trump hasn't done any of that. There's speculation that he will block a Time Warner merger, but hasn't done it.

Another annoying Times headline: "The Network Against the Leader of the Free World."

The story complained about Trumps "denunciations (of CNN) in stinging tweets and slashing speeches."

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  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Ahh, Mr Mustache (and a grand one it is), always so optimistic. How do you stay so optimistic after all these years? Even when you condemn, as here, it still sounds optimistic and fresh and cheerful in an old fashioned Norman Rockwell kind of way.

    Always a pleasure to read.

  • Elias Fakaname||

    Damn John Stossel and his calm, considered, reasoning! What we need is kore panic and hyperbole! And exclamation marks!!!!!!!! Lots of them!!!!!!!!!!!

  • commentguy||

    What we actually need is some links that support statements like "repeatedly told us that a dozen Trump administration members were about to be fired". Trust, but verify, you know?

  • Michael Hihn||

    Stossel WAS good. Now he peddles hysteria like both Fox and NYT. No surprise. With O'Reilly, he shrugged that some might die under Trumpcare -- babbled how "mutual aid societies" once treated the uninsured in ,... the free market he does NOT understand! (It was mostly fraternal and ethnic lodges, financing church-run charity hospitals until Medicaid)

    Stossel knows -- unlike Paul, Cruz and their ilk -- that private charity treated ALL the uninsured, so he knows Americans are) TOTALLY willing to pay for that care -- but he still shits on the same free-market outcomes that he brags about!

    Why not transition all Medicaid spending back to private charities -- restore real free market outcomes? Because goobers BELEEB that "repeal" will magically restore the private infrastructure.

    And because Paul, Cruz and the liberty CULT would KEEP most of Medicaid!! As progressives continue kicking our ass.

    12% of Americans approve Trumpcare. The libertarian label is rejected by 91% of libertarians (Cato). Obamacare approval is over 50% -- as voters see NO alternative from the fiscal right (Republican or libertarian.) -- who now virtually guarantee single-payer.

    Goobers stand and bellow ... NOT what the founders intended ...as they are manipulated into unwitting accomplices to the state. Because hating gubmint has replaced loving liberty. And Lady Liberty weeps in silent shame.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    I wonder if Hihn ever was good for anything.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Hihn is not. That is why he bounces between handles.

  • Rhywun||

    Some doctor somewhere is sending his kids through college on him, so yeah.

  • Michael Hihn||

    ANOTHER GOOBER (6 and counting) .... MORE aggression

    Rhywun
    Some doctor somewhere is sending his kids through college on him, so yeah.

    Childish. Scared to deal with the issues -- as you DEFEND retaining Medicaid and shitting on free markets, at a libertarian web site, and THAT is sane!

  • Michael Hihn||

    I wonder if Hihn ever was good for anything.

    (lol) He just showed you he's smarter than the entire libertarian establishment on Medicaid, free markets and charitable care. The bastard, But it's "Hihn" and you're a cyber-bully, so you denigrate the ONLY notion of entirely repealing Medicaid, fully restoring the private infrastructure for charitable care AND restoring free market outcomes.

    Because goobers BELEEB that "repeal" will magically restore the private infrastructure.

    I'm seeing three goobers, so far. And loving it!

  • BYODB||

    To be absolutely fair, I believe Hihn is correct when he says that single-payer is a virtual guarantee. I won't say it's absolutely going to happen because generally I don't like absolutes, but the trajectory is clear.

    That being said, Obamacare's approval rating could be 100% but that doesn't mean the program will ever function. I suspect if Obama's name wasn't in the title it wouldn't even be at 50%.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Obamacare's approval rating could be 100% but that doesn't mean the program will ever function

    The exact excuse they'll use for single payer. Even crazier, Republicans refused the bipartisan version of Obamacare, which would have likely destroyed single-payer forever.

    So for 2018, Democrats will use all the GOP's anti-Obamacare arguments to campaign for single-payer AND a veto-proof majority. They may not get the 2/3, but they'll have enough to shut down Trump.

  • Uncle Jay||

    Yes, Mr. Hihn is good for something...comic relief.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Why does Uncle Jay say "comic relief" is ... wanting to repeal ALL of Medicaid, and transfer ll spending back to private charity car? Because his tribe wants the exact opposite. And he too is a bully.

  • Hidebehindyourcause||

    It's comical hearing you criticize someone for peddling hysteria

  • Michael Hihn||

    It's comical hearing you criticize someone for peddling hysteria

    YOU are overcome by hysteria ... as you shit on TOTAL repeal of Medicaid, FULLY restoring free-market outcomes, AND, shitting on voluntary private charity ,... and you do all that on a libertarian web sitet!

    P.S. if you can NAME an example of actual hysteria -- not just childish snark -- then that too will be used to ridicule you, Give it a shot.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    YOU are overcome by hysteria ... as you shit on TOTAL repeal of Medicaid, FULLY restoring free-market outcomes, AND, shitting on voluntary private charity ,... and you do all that on a libertarian web sitet!

    Captain Hihn-sano's arguing with the voices in his head again.

  • Sevo||

    I see entirely too much hinhsanity in this thread.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Sevo -- now seven goobers ... launching aggression .. while DEFENDING Medicaid and shitting on free markets ...at a libertarian web site!

    Sevo|7.12.17 @ 11:49AM|#
    I see entirely too much hinhsanity in this thread.

    Haters gotta hate. Bullies gotta bully.

  • Michael Hihn||

    P.S. if you can NAME an example of actual hysteria -

    Captain Hihn-sano's arguing with the voices in his head again.

    No example?
    1) I argued with Hidebehindyourcaus. Your clues is that's who I quoted! See his or her directly above.
    2) And I just won ANOTHER one against you. (smirk)

    Having also scored here:
    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6899162

    So ... ummm ... why do YOU oppose full repeal of Medicaid, and restoring free market outcome?

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    1) I argued with Hidebehindyourcaus. Your clues is that's who I quoted! See his or her directly above.
    2) And I just won ANOTHER one against you. (smirk)

    Wrong again, Hihn-sano--you erected your typical strawman and cited yourself as per usual.

    Better have that doctor double-check to see if that tumor hasn't spread through your brain, sparky.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Behold the raging psycho stalker,

    Wrong again, Hihn-sano--you erected your typical strawman and cited yourself as per usual.

    HIHN, the goddamn narcissist, cited his own posting .. to PROVE what he said ... and to PROVE me a liar. So I must initiate MORE aggression, HOW DARE HE GIVE ME BACKTALK.

    HOW DARE HIHN PROMOTE TOTAL REPEAL OF MEDICAID .. AND DEFEND FREE MARKETS ... ON A LIBERTARIAN WEBSITE .... MAKING ALL MY HEROES LOOK LIKE FUCKING STATISTS?

    Better have that doctor double-check to see if that tumor hasn't spread through your brain, sparky.

    WHAT KIND OF SLIME RIDICULES SOMEBODY FOR BEING IN TREATMENT FOR CANCER?

    We've a;; seen the scene in movies about street gangs ... maybe a dozen of them in a circle, kicking victim as fast as they can .... self-righteously.

    Is this why Reason's web traffic stats have been plummeting for over a year?
    Is this why Cato reports that 60% of voters identify with libertarian values ... but 91% of THEM reject the libertarian brand and label?

    Did I intentionally bait the goobers -- KNOWING they would DEFEND keeping Medicaid and OPPOSE restoring private charity? OVER A DOZEN TIMES? (smirking ridicule)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Whew, Hihn-sano, finally woke up from your nappy after spending all your energy in a lunchtime shitpost frenzy?

  • Michael Hihn||

    Whew, Hihn-sano, finally woke up from your nappy after spending all your energy in a lunchtime shitpost frenzy?
  • BYODB||

    Good Morning, Hihn. What's your apartment number again? To be absolutely clear, this is not a threat. Maybe we just want to mail you some motivational posters.

  • Michael Hihn||

    One more time. There is no apartment number.
    Why would you assume otherwise?
    Why dd you assume it's a small apartmen?
    And why did you refuse what I so instantly provided?

  • Uncle Jay||

    I want to get this straight, Mr. Hihn.
    Do you advocate fully restoring free market outcomes and private charity for healthcare?
    Or is that just my imagination running away from me?

  • Michael Hihn||

    Do you advocate fully restoring free market outcomes and private charity for healthcare?

    Yes, but I only mentioned Medicaid here .,.. and ridiculed the entire libertarian establishment for demanding the exact opposite.

    Or is that just my imagination running away from me?

    I'd be more concerned about your reading ability. Which part confuses you? It's just repeating a pro-liberty libertarian position from the 70s -- as opposed to the morally and intellectually bankrupt anti-gubmint (so-called) libertarians.

    Health care is one of the better issues to expose the failures of anti-gubmint libs. Hating government is t kinda useless since they NEVER have solutions. "Git gubmint out:" is not a solution, will NEVER elect a controlling government .. and is why the libertarian brand is rejected by 91% of libertarians (Per Cato)

    Advancing individual liberty ALWAYS reduces government. But reducing government does NOT always advance individual liberty and free markets. As I've now proven. Even worse, over 60% of voters are libertarian but 91% of them REJECT the libertarian label, (per Cato).

    Anything else?

  • Uncle Jay||

    "Yes, but I only mentioned Medicaid here .,.. and ridiculed the entire libertarian establishment for demanding the exact opposite."

    1. Well, we have something in common.
    I, too, agree advocate free market solutions to healthcare problems and private charity for healthcare since the Mormon and Roman Catholic Church (as examples) are some of the wealthiest entities on our planet and should, by their reason for very ecclesiastical existence, take care of the less fortunate' healthcare issues, not the taxpayer.

    2. "Health care is one of the better issues to expose the failures of anti-gubmint libs."
    How is England's NHS doing?

    3. "Hating government is t kinda useless since they NEVER have solutions."
    See paragraph one.

  • Michael Hihn||

    2. "Health care is one of the better issues to expose the failures of anti-gubmint libs."

    How is England's NHS doing?

    (sneer) IT'S A FUCKING DISASTER .. which the ant-gubmint goobers ignore ..... because anti-gubmint goobers, like Gillespie, promote the psycho bullshit that spending cuts stimulate the economy ... citing bullshit data from Mercatus

    Can YOU tell us what the Keogh Report found?
    Have YOU been bamboozled into believing the postwar boom was STIMULATED by massive postwar spending cuts? (OMFG)
    Do you WANT to believe Canada made large spending cuts in the 1990s, with no negative effects?

    How much of that suckered YOU? What causes rationing if not spending cuts?

    . "Hating government is t kinda useless since they NEVER have solutions."

    See paragraph one

    MY paragraph one. Yours LOOKS like Rand Paul's bullshit.
    1) KEEP the money stolen from private charity.
    2) DEFY the voluntary choices of Americans for over a century (and of humans since the 1500s)

    But ONLY you add ... SOAK THE RICH!
    A disgrace to the REAL Uncle Jay.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Yes, but I only mentioned Medicaid here .,.. and ridiculed the entire libertarian establishment for demanding the exact opposite.

    That's because you're too stupid to realize that no one here is arguing to keep Medicaid from being repealed. Because your psychosis has led you to believe arguments that have never been made actually exist.

  • Michael Hihn||

    RED ROCKS ... another crazy psycho piling on the aggression!
    Another knee-jerking tribal goober

    Yes, but I only mentioned Medicaid here .,.. and ridiculed the entire libertarian establishment for demanding the exact opposite.

    That's because you're too stupid to realize that no one here is arguing to keep Medicaid from being repealed.

    ME STUPID! (sneer)
    You hate-spewing bullies are NOT the libertarian establishment

    Because your psychosis has led you to believe arguments that have never been made actually exist

    BWAAAA HAAAAA You just fucked up my words that YOU CITED.!

    1) Rand Pail would keep Medicaid, goober.
    2) Cato's Michael Cannon BRAGS that Medicaid coverage would not be reduced at all
    3) So does Mercatus.
    4) Stossel defends Trumpcare, doesn't care if some people dies.

    BEND OVER. SPREAD YOUR CHEEKS. APPLY SOME VASELINE. YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE JAMMED.

    CALLING YOU OUT AS A MASSIVE, FUCKING LIAR AND BULLY. NAME ONE LIBERTARIAN ESTABLISHMENT FIGURE ... JUST ONE ,.. WHO PROPOSES TOTAL REPEAL OF MEDICAID AND TRANSITIONING ALL CURRENT SPENDING BACK TO THE PRIVATE CARE NETWORK DESTROYED BY MEDICAID. (SNEER)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Oh, poor Hihn-sano and his authoritarian fetish, thinking everyone who criticizes him walks in lock-stop with political figures.

    How does it feel to be a fundamentally dishonest shitstain, Hihntard?

  • Michael Hihn||

    THIS lie is self-evident. (smirk)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    So are your delusions. (grin)

  • Michael Hihn||

    RED ROCKS ... another crazy psycho piling on the aggression!
    Another knee-jerking tribal goober

    Yes, but I only mentioned Medicaid here .,.. and ridiculed the entire libertarian establishment for demanding the exact opposite.

    That's because you're too stupid to realize that no one here is arguing to keep Medicaid from being repealed.

    You hate-spewing bullies are NOT the libertarian establishment

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    You hate-spewing bullies are NOT the libertarian establishment

    "But I'm going to accuse you of holding their positions anyway, because I can't keep my arguments straight."

    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6900190

  • Michael Hihn||

    (lol) SAME ARGUMENT.

    YOU HATE-SPEWING BULLIES ARE NOT THE LIBERTARIAN ESTABLISHMENT.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Michael Hihn|7.12.17 @ 3:14AM

    Jesus, no wonder you're crazy. Get some sleep, man.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Now five goobers

    Jesus, no wonder you're crazy.

    It's crazy -- on ato SHOW how to FULLY repeal Medicaid and transition all current spending back to the private charities that provided universal treatment to the uninsured?

    But you're not

  • Michael Hihn||

    (Redo)
    Now five goobers ... all defending big government ... on a libertarian web site (OMG)

    Jesus, no wonder you're crazy.


    It's crazy -- on a libertarian web site -- to FULLY repeal Medicaid and transition all current spending back to the private charities that provided universal treatment to the uninsured?

    But you're NOT crazy for defending the retention of gubmint Medicaid.

    Michael Hihn|7.12.17 @ 3:14AM

    Jesus, no wonder you're crazy. Get some sleep, man.

    I have a sleep disorder called sleep apnea. If I used crutches, your ilk would kick them out from under me.

    Do you have no shame at all?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Crazy AND a liar. Winning combo there, Mikey.

  • Michael Hihn||

    DEFENDS saying it's "crazy" to want TOTAL Medicaid repeal and FULL restoration of free market outcomes!

    Citizen X - #6|7.12.17 @ 1:41PM|#
    Crazy AND a liar. Winning combo there, Mikey.

    Stalking aggressor also goes childish. Again.
    I call you out as full of shit.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Nope, that's not what i'm saying is crazy about you, you delusional liar. Your repetitive, thin-skinned, needlessly bolded flailings are what's crazy about you.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Nope, that's not what i'm saying is crazy about you, you delusional liar. Your repetitive, thin-skinned, needlessly bolded flailings are what's crazy about you

    CALLING YOU OUT AS A LIAR.
    LINK TO ONE -- JUST ONE --THAT IS NOT SELF-DEFENSE. (SNEER)

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Captain Hihn-Spam-O gurgles his victim complex!

    (hops away giggling)

  • Michael Hihn||

    Red Rocks Baiting
    (hops away giggling)

    Giggles like a school girl. But jammd up Red Rocks' ass here: (smirk)

    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6900211

  • Michael Hihn||

    How many tribal goobers rejected NAP for a gang assault on repealing Medicaid and returning all spending to private charity care, described Here. (I baited them intentionally! SO easy to trigger their raging hatred)

    Scarecrow Repair & Chippering|7.12.17 @ 8:14AM|
    loveconstitution1789|7.12.17 @ 8:28AM|
    Rhywun|7.12.17 @ 9:38AM
    Uncle Jay|7.12.17 @ 2:06PM
    Hidebehindyourcause|7.12.17 @ 9:29AM
    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting 7.12.17 @ 11:05AM
    Sevo|7.12.17 @ 11:49AM
    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting|7.12.17 @ 3:52PM
    Uncle Jay|7.12.17 @ 1:10PM
    Uncle Jay|7.12.17 @ 2:13PM
    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting|7.12.17 @ 3:55PM
    Citizen X - #6|7.12.17 @ 12:03PM
    Citizen X - #6|7.12.17 @ 1:41PM
    Citizen X - #6|7.12.17 @ 2:41PM
    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting|7.12.17 @ 3:56PM

    Like a street gang, in a circle, kicking their victim as hard and as fast as they can, while screaming, "FUCK NON-AGGRESSION!
    PUNISH OPPOSING VIEWS!
    TRIBALISM UBER ALLES!!!

    THIS is why Reason's web traffic has been plummeting for over a year, now ranking at the very bottom
    291 Slate
    649 Daily Caller
    662 Daily Kos
    1187 National Review
    1869 Townhall
    ...
    ...
    2968 Reason,com

    Cato reports 59% of voters identify with libertarian values ... but 91% of them REJECT the libertarian label/brand.

    The thugs have won. HANDING victory to Progressives. Thank you, Ron Paul.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Captain Hihn-sano spam-posting again--shrieks like a bitch in heat when he gets criticized.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting|7.13.17 @ 12:17AM
    Captain Hihn-sano spam-posting again--shrieks like a bitch in heat when he gets criticized.
  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Captain Hihn-sano showing off his anal fixation again (titter)

  • Michael Hihn||

    Captain Hihn-sano showing off his anal fixation again
  • Michael Hihn||

    THIS is what the goobers attacked ... 23 times .... defending their tribe instead of limited government. Sad?

    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6898889

    Stossel knows -- unlike Paul, Cruz and their ilk -- that private charity treated ALL the uninsured, so he knows Americans are) TOTALLY willing to pay for that care -- but he still shits on the same free-market outcomes that he brags about!

    Why not transition all Medicaid spending back to private charities -- restore real free market outcomes? Because goobers BELEEB that "repeal" will magically restore the private infrastructure.

    And because Paul, Cruz and the liberty CULT would KEEP most of Medicaid!! As progressives continue kicking our ass.

    12% of Americans approve Trumpcare. The libertarian label is rejected by 91% of libertarians (Cato). Obamacare approval is over 50% -- as voters see NO alternative from the fiscal right (Republican or libertarian.) -- who now virtually guarantee single-payer.

    Goobers stand and bellow ... "NOT what the founders intended" ...as they are manipulated into unwitting accomplices to the state. Because hating gubmint has replaced loving liberty. And Lady Liberty weeps in silent shame.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    THIS is what the goobers attacked ... 23 times .... defending their tribe instead of limited government. Sad?

    You hate-spewing bullies are NOT the libertarian establishment

    Make up your mind, goofy.

  • Number 2||

    "In Russia, media that criticized Putin were raided and accused of tax fraud."

    Which, for the record, is also what happened to the news media that criticized FDR. But you will not be finding Times articles about that.

  • Michael Hihn||

    LEFTWING CONSPIRACY!!
    Like all the bullshit email hysteria claiming, "never reported by the MSM." (lol)

    New York Time 9/3/89
    "One of the most brazen instances of a political vendetta during a Presidency was the Roosevelt Administration's attack on Andrew Mellon. … Elmer L. Irey, head of the criminal division of the Treasury's tax enforcement branch in Washington from 1919 to 1946, acknowledged in his 1948 autobiography that Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau Jr. ordered him to develop tax charges against Mellon even though he, Irey, knew that the former Treasury Secretary was innocent. ... The Roosevelt Administration then suffered one rebuff after another … a Federal grand jury (comprising five laborers, two mechanics, two farmers, two clerks, two engineers, a carpenter, plumber, writer, lumber dealer and one banker) refused to indict Mellon on any charge.)"

    Ooopsies

    Mother Jones "As Reason notes, FDR wasn't above trying to avoid paying his fair share of taxes, either: In 1937 he tried to talk the IRS into taxing him at 1933 rates."

    Google search also shows Fox News accused of willful fraud, lying that FDR favored private supplements to Social Security. Much like Cato's bullshit "6.2% solution." Or Medicare vouchers.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Google search also shows that Hihn is an idiot. He sure rambles a lot.

  • Michael Hihn||

    (lol)

    Google search also shows that Hihn is an idiot. He sure rambles a lot.

    First you attack replacing ALL of Medicaid with private charity. Now ABSOLUTE PROOF is .... "rambling." -- if it it dares to challenge your tribal groupthink,

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    First you attack replacing ALL of Medicaid with private charity

    "WATCH ME PUT WORDS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTHS BECAUSE I'M AN INSANE MORON WHO CAN'T KEEP HIS COLOSTOMY BAG ATTACHED!! BULLIES!! AGGRESSORS!! SOMEONE RE-ATTACH MY DRIBBLE BIB!!"

    (skips away chortling)

  • Michael Hihn||

    First you attack replacing ALL of Medicaid with private charity

    "WATCH ME PUT WORDS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTHS

    HE DOESN'T CARE HOW OFTEN I PROVE HIM A PSYCHO LIAR .... IT'S ALL ABOUT RAGING HATED AND AGGRESSION.

    Here's my liberty advocacy:
    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6898889

    All the goober assaults are listed here. And their DESTRUCTION of liberty.
    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6900227

    Red Rocks now has four assaults ... al psycho lies like here.
    Goobers don't care. They are "True Beleebers" doing the work of the Lord (metaphor)

    (Posted in self-defense of multiple aggressions by a cyber-bully who's been stalking me since last year)

    I will be punished for posting THIS proof also. Because psycho. Gomer attacks, is humiliated, suffers sheer RAGE, punishes me, the circle continues. (goober gang cheers)
    His very handle BRAGS about bullying. Duh.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    Hihntard can't stop putting words in other people's mouths while whining like a pussy bitch about aggression. Dance for me, monkey!

  • Michael Hihn||

    SEE THE HATRED of a raging bully

    I will be punished for posting THIS proof also. Because psycho. Gomer attacks, is humiliated, suffers sheer RAGE, punishes me, the circle continues. (goober gang cheers) His very handle BRAGS about bullying. Duh.

    Hihntard can't stop putting words in other people's mouths while whining like a pussy bitch about aggression. Dance for me, monkey!

    Proof versus childish name-calling, unsupported lies and MORE aggression
    What was said. ... How did I lie about it ... with links, bully (yawn)

    Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting
    whining like a pussy bitch about aggression

    He's PROUD to be a bully! It's his entire purpose here. And if you DARE call him on it, he'll prove it, Over and over and over
    He THRIVES personal attacks and insults,

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    "MUH VICTIM COMPLEX I'M SO OPPRESSED REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

  • tlapp||

    FDR did in fact say in 30 years the system should be supplanted with a prefunded system. He was not specific if it was private accounts or the entire system. He did however know the plan he put in place was not financially sound in the long run from the day it was signed into law. His Treasury Secretary Morgenthau opposed the method of funding because of this and Witte, the economist he appointed to head the committee to create SS warned it would leave large unfunded liabilities for future generations. FDR signed it anyway and here we are in a system that is not financially sound and has left current and future workers with enormous liabilities.
    FDR one evil, freedom hating man to take a nation of free and independent people and force them into dependency on a plan he know was not financially sound. Simultaneously selling each generation into indentured servitude to the prior one at greater expense to each succeeding generation.

  • Michael Hihn||

    tlapp|7.12.17 @ 11:16AM|#
    FDR did in fact say in 30 years the system should be supplanted with a prefunded system

    GOOBER ALERT! Channeling Breitbart and Infowars!! Also a Birther? (lol)

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus.
    Lincoln closed news outlets and had editors arrested.
    Lincoln's attacks on the 1st Amendment

  • Michael Hihn||

    Lincoln closed news outlets and had editors arrested.

    Umm, READ THE LINK before it humiliates you.

    After describing Lincoln's tolerance for opposition media:

    Lincoln loses patience: Papers closed, editors arrested
    By mid-May 1864, Lincoln's patience with the oppositional Copperhead press had begun to fray. What triggered Lincoln's wrath was a bogus item that appeared in two Copperhead newspapers out of New York — the Journal of Commerce and the World. The papers ran a fake story that reported a presidential proclamation to the effect that the Lincoln administration was about to draft 400,000 men. According to Tedford and Herbeck, "Lincoln ordered the two newspapers closed and their owners arrested and imprisoned. The Independent Telegraph System, which had transmitted the story, was seized by the military and its transmissions stopped."
  • BYODB||

    I don't think you understood 1789's point, since you just agreed with it.

    Or...are you saying the President should be able to use the military to take over and shut down news outlets that publish 'fake news'?

  • Michael Hihn||

    I don't think you understood 1789's point, since you just agreed with it.

    READ THE LINK.

  • John's broseph||

    Why are all of stossel's articles posted in the middle of the night?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    So Hihn cannot get to them right away.

  • Michael Hihn||

    loveconstitution1789

    Why are all of stossel's articles posted in the middle of the night?

    So Hihn cannot get to them right away.

    SECOND AGGRESSION. NOW the cyber-bully THINKS (sic) that 3:14 AM is NOT the middle of the night!
    http://reason.com/archives/201.....nt_6898889

    Haters gotta hate. Bullies gotta bellow.

  • Dillinger||

    i'm loving Aggression Updates.

  • Michael Hihn||

    The True Believers thrive on them.

  • Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting||

    The True Believers thrive on them.

    It's clearly the only reason you keep popping up here. Just like the rainbow-hair Tumblrinas, you need to feel oppressed to disguise the fact that you're a fat old fossil that's about 20 years past his sell-by date.

  • Hank Phillips||

    In 1980 the media and Dems were tasked with getting the US to lay down its weapons--weapons designed specifically to fight National Socialism--and surrender. Their Freeze and Surrender movement failed, and everyone blamed the prez, not the platform more voters had preferred. Same thing today. The Dems faced the same choice they faced in 1932: copy the Liberal Party repeal plank or be defeated. Their platform committee chose to ignore repeal and offer instead to ban and cripple energy production based on the Revealed Faith of Climate Eugenics. Mindful that these are kleptocratic looters we're talking about, did you really expect them to admit they were wrong?

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    "Donald Trump Drives the Media Crazy"

    That's not a drive. That's a short putt.

  • Mickey Rat||

    It's a gimme, really.

  • Curt||

    "He's not my leader. The president leads one of three branches of government. He's commander in chief of the armed services. He's not "leader of the free world."".

    "A president's job is to execute laws."

    Yes, but in addition to being the head of the executive branch, he is also the head of state. And it's that role that seems to cause all of the problems. People in this country and abroad don't look to the President as the head of the executive branch, they look to him as the head of state. In short, they long for the imperial presidency. It's the kind of thing that sometimes makes me wonder if we'd be better off with those two roles being filled by different people.

  • BYODB||

    Truly, Donald Trump is the Zaphod Beeblebrox of American Presidents.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    After Obumbles? Seriously? I mean, yes, Trump is a Clown. But so was Obumbles, and he could be bullied a lot easier.

  • Uncle Jay||

    Call me ignorant (just don't call me collect), but who the hell is Zaphod Beeblebrox?

  • zaphod||

    Really? Quick, turn around and you might find the turnip truck you rode in on.

    Zaphod is/was:
    Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" seven consecutive times.
    The best Bang since the Big One
    Owner of the hippest place in the universe
    President of the Galaxy
    The only man to have survived the Total Perspective Vortex

    I could go on but my humility forbids it.

  • Zeb||

    Maybe we should have just had a king as head of state.

  • Seamus||

    Sure, if I get to decide who is king.

  • tlapp||

    He drives the media crazy. That is his most redeeming quality.

    Thanks to Stossel for putting some perspective in the media when the standard appear to be to call anyone that does not agree with a preformed opinion, racist, fascist or get a comparison to Hitler.
    Politics and media have replaced facts and debate with outrageous hyperbole.

  • Eric||

    To me, his most redeeming quality is that he's unwittingly reminding big-government types as to why we have checks and balances to begin with. It's without much confidence that I hope the left learns its lessons as to why we don't want a "god-king" as head of the Executive branch.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Bingo!

  • BYODB||


    So why make things up?


    Because if they didn't make things up, they would need to admit that constantly pushing more and more power onto the President might, just might, be a bad idea. Since they don't believe it is a bad idea, they need to attack Trump on anything and everything because they need the right top man in the job.


    There are a whole lot of legitimate reasons to have issues with the Trump administration, but not a single one of those reasons are something the press wants to talk about because truth be told they don't really have a problem with Trump's policies generally speaking. Sure, they might hate things like a temporary travel ban but tariffs? Infrastructure? More spending? Government-controlled health care? Gay marriage? They agree on those things by and large.


    So, for them, it's mostly about the (R) and getting a (D) back into office.

  • Thomas O.||

    I think the only way we can shrink government at this point is to get some constitutional amendments passed that fix those bugs in the system. People are going to point at court rulings, executive powers and the Almighty Commerce Clause as excuses for why their sacred but shitty law shouldn't be repealed... or worse, they'll just go "I'm breaking the law, what are you gonna do, impeach me? Vote me out of office?" Remember that some incumbents would keep winning re-election even if they were regularly making child sacrifices on the Capitol steps, because TEAM!!!

    One amendment to narrow the scope of regulating "interstate commerce", another to enact penalties for going against the Constitution (enforced by military action), another to establish term limits for all elected officials, and one more to establish firm nationwide guidelines for holding elections. It may take the ol' Article V maneuver to make this a reality, but at least we're inching towards that.

  • Uncle Jay||

    RE: Donald Trump Drives the Media Crazy

    No, the media drive themselves crazy.
    One thing I learned a long time ago, only a complete asshole can make you crazy.

  • Tony||

    The entire country is talking about Don Jr., the White House is freaking out about it, and the best we get from Reason is an AM link and John Stossel saying "the media hates Trump!"

    I guess you do have to have a unique take on things.

  • Philadelphia Collins||

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

  • Tony||

    How fucking clever. Gets cleverer every millionth repetition.

  • Sam Haysom||

    Tony reduced to sobbing yet again.

  • Uncle Jay||

    "Tony reduced to sobbing yet again."
    Shame on you, Philadelphia Collins!
    Have you no shame, sir?
    Have you no shame?

  • Sevo||

    Tony|7.12.17 @ 12:20PM|#
    "The entire country is talking about Don Jr.,"

    That would be CNN and partners, and they're saying he's a big poppyhead. Pretty much the same pile of steaming shit you're been posting since YOU LOST, loser.
    Fuck off.

  • Crusty Juggler - Double Great||

    "Oh, this thread could have some interesting comments."

    *clicks*

    GAHHHHHHHH

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    And that's why we love him!

  • Eric||

    I like Stossel, but he's falling for the same fallacies that pretty much everyone does. "The Media" is not one homogeneous entity, with a single mind and consciousness. In critiquing the media, he cherry picks the worst examples of a huge and disparate group of people to prove his point. Then once he's done cherry picking, he attributes the arguments of said examples to the group as a whole. The same direction is taken when people use Glenn Beck or Ron Paul to label libertarians as nuts or racists (respectively). The same fallacies are used against progressives and conservatives too. How often does some troglodyte conservative's stupid misogynist comment get used to tar the entire movement? Or some SJW on campus is used to paint the entire left with one broad stroke? Even here at Reason, based upon the articles, every cop is a dog killing, jack booted thug.
    I'm not saying that there isn't some truth to these generalizations….but I would hope that some here would recognize that we too are being manipulated.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    "a huge and disparate group of people"

    Oh, please. Yes, there is some variation in the mainstream media. There was some variation in the student population of Yale circa 1920. Just not much. There are honorable exceptions, but for the most part the mainstream media varies between Strongly Left, through Far Left with a cherry on top, to Way Far Out Left and Receiving Radio Venus on Their Bridgework.

  • Number 7||

    but I agree with his point that generalizing groups is dangerous and wrong, not everyone in a given group is guilty of whatever crimes their group is accused of.

  • Zeb||

    "The left" (and "The Right" and "libertarians") is also a large and disparate group of individuals. Yes, they by and large slant to the left. But that doesn't mean they all do the same things.

    It's just a lazy way of thinking and talking about things. And we all do it sometimes. But it's worth pointing out from time to time.

  • Number 7||

    thank you for that, I've thought the same thing a million times.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    All of this presumes that the point of these attacks on Trump is to discredit and contain Trump. What if it isn't? The Democrat Establishment used ethically questionable tricks to ensure that they chosen Insider (Hillary Clinton) got nominated, and then she lost the general election TO DONALD TRUMP. Hell, if the evidence of vote fraud that is slowly emerging tells us anything, there's a decent chance that the "Hillary Won the Popular Vote" meme is bullshit, too. So, the Party Insiders cast aside a putative Outsider to secure the nomination of an Insider...who got cunt-punted by the public. Let the Great Unwashed focus on anything other than "Trump is awful, Trump eats roast babies, Trump rapes virgin Feminists" and similar mush, and the Democrat Establishment might just possibly be asked to explain themselves to their base......

  • Michael Hihn||

    there's a decent chance that the "Hillary Won the Popular Vote" meme is bullshit, too.

    (shudder)

  • aajax||

    "there's a decent chance that the "Hillary Won the Popular Vote" meme is bullshit, too."

    Care to place a bet that any governmental agency or investigatory commission will conclude that?

  • jagjr||

    great stuff, John. spot on.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    He emailed back, "That wasn't a reference to murder (but) to executive authority using tax code to squelch free-speech."

    Something that no previous president has done. Ever. /sarc

  • aajax||

    And that president was forced to resign.

  • Amogin||

    Interesting take on the problem presented by a president who lies constantly, changes his stories more often than most people change their underwear and refuses to be bound by any rules or behaviors that don't aggrandize himself or profit his family. There was nothing made-up about the minority president's ridiculous tweet showing him beating up a journalist. The stories about who is up and down in a WH that is playing by the rules of a demented Darwinian circus, were generated within that WH. Are the media supposed to ignore leaks simply because the man in charge is a volatile idiot who changes his mind by the minute- celebrating the House healthcare bill with a Rose Garden party and then labelling it mean? It is all very well to claim that the best way to stop the Donald is to limit the power of the presidency but with the GOP controlling both houses of Congress and with the party needing, at least, token support for their agenda from the tainted man in the WH, it is very unlikely to happen. Until some remarkable revelation either gets him impeached or turns the GOP totally against him, the best safeguard we have is the media, reporting what is going on-rumors and all.

  • aajax||

    The problem with reversing the usurpation of Congress by the executive is not party, but cowardice. But let's not give up as easily as you suggest.

  • Amogin||

    Interesting take on the problem presented by a president who lies constantly, changes his stories more often than most people change their underwear and refuses to be bound by any rules or behaviors that don't aggrandize himself or profit his family. There was nothing made-up about the minority president's ridiculous tweet showing him beating up a journalist. The stories about who is up and down in a WH that is playing by the rules of a demented Darwinian circus, were generated within that WH. Are the media supposed to ignore leaks simply because the man in charge is a volatile idiot who changes his mind by the minute- celebrating the House healthcare bill with a Rose Garden party and then labelling it mean? It is all very well to claim that the best way to stop the Donald is to limit the power of the presidency but with the GOP controlling both houses of Congress and with the party needing, at least, token support for their agenda from the tainted man in the WH, it is very unlikely to happen. Until some remarkable revelation either gets him impeached or turns the GOP totally against him, the best safeguard we have is the media, reporting what is going on-rumors and all.

  • Sevo||

    "the minority president's"

    Hey, loser, you LOST.

  • aajax||

    You probably have lost, too. You just don't know it yet.

  • Ron||

    "Interesting take on the problem presented by a president who lies constantly, changes his stories more often than most people change their underwear and refuses to be bound by any rules or behaviors that don't aggrandize himself or profit his family."

    For a minute i thought you were going to refer to Bill Clinton

  • Michael Hihn||

    You would.

  • Headache||

    There are legitimate reasons to worry about what Trump might do. I worry that he'll start a trade war. Or a shooting war. There's plenty to worry about.

    So what if he starts a trade war? It takes two or more to engage in such a thing. No one wins, which means no one loses. The difference between EU subsidies and US tariffs, is the US collects the subsidy on this side of the pond.

    Or a shooting war? George H.W. Bush(Iraq), Buba Clinton(Iraq, Serbia), Dubya(Iraq, Afghanistan), and Obama's proxies in Ukraine, Libya, Syria.

    Seems to be a trend here.

  • aajax||

    Not true that no one loses in a trade war. Both sides lose economically, although certain special interests and politicians on both sides generally win, but at the expense of consumers. If the players are smart, they keep the losses hidden well enough, but they are real.

  • AD-RtR/OS!||

    "...why make things up?"
    Because the media has gone totally bat-shit crazy, and can't differentiate between their delusional fantasies and the reality before them.

  • Mark22||

    Rutenberg goes on to ask how we can feel good about Independence Day and press freedom "when the president lashes out at The Washington Post by making a veiled threat against the business interests of its owner, Jeff Bezos, suggesting that his other company, Amazon, is a tax avoider.

    It's OK for Clinton, Obama, Sanders, and Warren to foam at the mouth about "tax avoiders", but heaven forbid Trump does it!

  • Michael Hihn||

    Threats?

  • zaphod||

    Has Trump unleashed the FBI and Justice department to harass, intimidate, and prosecute reporters?

    Seems to me the complainers just have their undies in a bundle. It's a twitter war for God's sake, nobody's had to hire a lawyer to defend themselves against the nearly bottomless pockets of the gummint.

  • aajax||

    Obama did, so it is not unreasonable to expect Trump could.

  • Budbug||

    Trump's not against a Free Press, he's just making it an ACCOUNTABLE Free Press. And since the Free Press has a decidedly Liberal bias, and since Liberals detest accountability, you have the current conflict, where the Free Press is crying when its Liberal bias and its propaganda are exposed.

  • Michael Hihn||

    A FREE PRESS IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO POLITICIANS ,... BY DEFINITION!
    Thanks for revealing your contempt for liberty.
    But Melania will give you a cookie!!

  • aajax||

    This.

  • aajax||

    "The Federalist's Jordyn Pair points out that the press repeatedly told us that a dozen Trump administration members were about to be fired."

    Citations? I turned up nothing but reported rumors/leaks, not assertions. The closest thing I found was Trump's own words in an interview on Fox with Jeanine Pirro.

    "In an interview with Fox News Channel's Jeanine Pirro, Trump ​played up that go-it-alone approach, floating the idea he should end the daily White House press briefings for reporters​ and take care of it himself.​

    "Unless I have them every two weeks and do it myself, we won't have them. I think it's a good idea," he told Pirro on her show "Justice with Judge Jeanine" that aired Saturday."

    And if Stossel doesn't think that Trump's allusions to Bezos' tax returns doesn't have a chilling effect on the press, he doesn't know as much about business as I thought.

  • meta||

    What's the F stand for? Frankenstein.. Frankfurter.... Francois... Freakingawesome.... Forkn'....

  • meta||

    OH also thanks for another great article Stossel, but we all know it's really the power of the stache

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