The Goalposts of the Iran War Keep Shifting
Trump and his team can’t get their story straight on why they started this war, how long they plan to fight it, and whether they'll put boots on the ground.
The U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran that began over the weekend is shaping up to be a serious regional war. Iran has not only fired back at U.S. troops but has fired at countries that host them. The Pentagon has acknowledged four American deaths and 18 serious injuries, with President Donald Trump expecting more. On Monday morning, three U.S. fighter jets were shot down in an "apparent friendly fire incident" over Kuwait, and natural gas prices shot up by 50 percent in Europe after Iranian air raids shut down Qatari and Saudi energy facilities.
While the war has been carried out by air so far, Trump has pointedly refused to rule out a ground invasion of Iran. "I don't have the yips with respect to boots on the ground—like every president says, 'There will be no boots on the ground.' I don't say it," Trump told the New York Post. "I say 'probably don't need them,' [or] 'if they were necessary.'"
The administration didn't try to sell the war beforehand, and it can't get its story straight now. Over the weekend, U.S. officials gave a series of explanations for why they attacked Iran when they did: to preempt a possible Iranian attack (which other officials say wasn't real), to join in an Israeli attack that was going to happen "with or without the United States," to take advantage of a fleeting opportunity to kill Iranian leadership, or to punish Iran for failing to give in to U.S. demands in time.
Trump himself has given several different answers about what his goals are. He has told different journalists that he is fighting for "freedom for the people" of Iran, for a leadership shuffle similar to "what we did in Venezuela," or for a diplomatic deal. Trump also said that he has "very good choices" for who should lead Iran, only to claim later that "none of the people we had in mind are going to come to power, because they are all dead."
And the original justification that Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance offered—stopping an Iranian nuclear bomb—seems to have completely fallen by the wayside. There's "no indication" from satellite imagery that either the U.S. or Israel has attacked any Iranian nuclear sites so far, U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Rafael Grossi told an emergency meeting of nuclear officials on Monday morning.
At a press conference on Monday morning, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine said that the U.S. goal was to remove Iran's "ability to project power outside its borders" by destroying its military. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth added that "this is not a so-called regime change war, but the regime sure did change."
Trump told The New York Times that the war could last "four to five weeks," and Hegseth said at the press conference that the President "has all the latitude in the world to talk about how long it may or may not take. Four weeks, two weeks, six weeks. It could move up. It could move back." Of course, as the saying goes, the enemy gets a vote. In response to a report that U.S.-Iranian negotiations were about to resume, Iran's de facto military leader Ali Larijani declared on social media, "We will not negotiate."
Although most Americans have not felt it directly yet, the war has had an immense cost in blood and treasure in the region in just its first three days. The fighting in the Persian Gulf has disrupted global shipping and air travel, especially through the Straits of Hormuz, which carry 15 percent of the world's oil and 20 percent of its liquified natural gas. Banks and analytics firms estimate that oil prices could rise to $100 per barrel (from a prewar price of less than $70) if the war drags on.
Qatar, the world's largest exporter of natural gas, shut down all exports due to Iranian air raids on two of its facilities on Monday morning. The same day, Saudi Arabia temporarily halted operations at its largest oil refinery after shrapnel from an intercepted drone started a fire.
Perhaps the worst single incident of the war was the attack on the girls' elementary school in Minab, Iran. The school is about a quarter mile from a naval base that was also targeted in U.S.-Israeli raids. The U.S. military told the Washington Post that it was "looking into" the incident. Authorities report that 165 people, many of them schoolgirls, were killed. "Her head was crushed by falling stones from the building. That is what killed her," the father of one schoolgirl, Zeinab Mirkhayali, told Drop Site. "My dream died with her."
Despite all the chaos, the Trump administration is insisting that it is too smart and too bold to be bogged down in the same kinds of Middle Eastern debacles as its predecessors. "This is not Iraq. This is not endless," Hegseth said at the press conference. "We fight to win, and we don't waste time or lives."
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It will be different this time!
This is what happens when we elect people from the Epstein Class. They treat wars like business ventures. "Fortune favors the bold" as the crypto bro ads go. That may be fine when half your businesses go under and the government bails you out and gives your favorable tax treatment for failures. But when it comes to war it is reckless.
When you say “Epstein class” you mean ‘Democrat’, right? You’ll be relieved to know that we didn’t elect one of those.
“Epstein class” refers to all those listed pedophile mutherfuckers that don't a diaper full of shit about anyone outside the club. Political affiation has nothing to do with it.
None of that is relevant. The war is illegal under the US Constitution and International Law. Having a factually accurate and constant reason would not make it legal.
International law huh?
Can you cite this ‘international law’ of which you speak?
Rubbish. Every POTUS since Clinton has done essentially the same thing. Obama/Hillary bombed Libya even when Ghadafi had eliminated his nukes and was suppressing his anti-West elements. Every time, Congress squeals like stuck pigs. Most times, it's sensible and results in something positive, except for the Obama/Clinton no-plan-B idiocy that turned Libya into a dangerous failed state. The Iran bombing was necessary after 47 years of lies and nuclear build-up.
Look people, it's very simple:
If a rule has been broken by a Democrat before, then Trump gets to break that same rule too, because fair is fair.
If a rule hasn't (yet) been broken by a Democrat, then Trump gets to break that rule too, because when Democrats are in charge they will break any rule.
Ergo, Trump gets to break all the rules and if you disagree you have TDS.
So Trump gets to
abuse any warmaking power that he feels like, whether or not it is consistent with the Constitution. But he is totally not acting like a king. That would be silly. That, again, means you have TDS.Jeff coming out against the concept of precedent. Good to know.
Wish we were not militarily involved, but I cannot even feign outrage that Iran is being attacked.
Jeff coming out against the concept of precedent. Good to know.
Not at all! Trump gets to follow precedent when Democrats have broken the rules in the past. AND, Trump gets to break precedent when Democrats HAVEN'T broken rules in the past, because everybody knows Democrats will break those rules once they get in charge.
So Trump gets to follow precedent AND break precedent! Good for him!
Again, opposed to precedent. You do not need to repeat yourself. It was stupid the first time you typed it.
He’s just really upset that his precious Ayatollah Asshollah was killed by those mean old Israelis.
The purpose of the Iran War is to reverse Trump's declining approval ratings and to give him more excuses to turn the US into a police state. The SAVE Act will be critical in making the US a one-party state.
Whoever is paying you deserves a refund.
Not paid at all here, unlike the Russian bots here defending Trump. How is the weather in Moscow now?
Why don't you look out the window?
You’re almost as stupid as Tony.
Ironically, the lack of the Save Act is also critical to making the US a one party state.
Since this is one it's me, I know which one party I want.
“The SAVE act will……”
Lol. If that’s all it takes then party 2 really sucks, chuck.
Rubbish. Every POTUS since Clinton has done essentially the same thing. Obama/Hillary bombed Libya even when Ghadafi had eliminated his nukes and was suppressing his anti-West elements. Every time, Congress squeals like stuck pigs. Most times, it's sensible and results in something positive, except for the Obama/Clinton no-plan-B idiocy that turned Libya into a dangerous failed state. The Iran bombing was necessary after 47 years of lies and nuclear build-up.
Do you ever think for yourself, or is it always right off the MSNBC latest blather?
Trump and his team can’t get their story straight on why they started this war, how long they plan to fight it, and whether they'll put boots on the ground.
Per your own requirements, they definitively cannot. Congress has to tell them. Until Congress does that, the plan is whatever they say it is on any given day (presumably for another 57 days). Congress specifically does not dictate whether (e.g) the 6th fleet will be in the Persian Gulf or the Gulf of America on any given day. That's not how The Constitution establishes and separates the powers/branches.
So fucking what? Name one single war, one single conflict where the goalposts didn't shift. It's inevitable and expected.
World War II. Unconditional surrender was always the goal of the Allies. And they got it. It cost hundreds of thousands of civilian lives in the last months of the war as the Nazis and Japanese genocidists refused to surrender even though it was clear that the war was hopelessly lost. The Nazis basically imploded after Hitler's suicide, and it took two atomic bombs and the Soviet Army running all over Manchuria essentially without resistance for the Japanese to finally give up.
But the alternative was to leave the Nazis and Japanese genocidists in power, to commit future genocides. Trump is okay with that and will eventually cut a deal that leaves the Mullahs in power in Iran just as he has left Hamas in power in Gaza and the Bolivarian regime in power in Venezuela. He just needs to get his cut.
Historically illiterate.
Charlie is universally illiterate.
"the original justification that Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance offered—stopping an Iranian nuclear bomb"
That one proved that Trump lied when he claimed that Iran's nuclear program had been annihilated with the previous round of attacks.
How do you know that Trump is lying? When his lips are moving or his keyboard is posting stuff to Truth Social.
Walz +7
Retard
did you see the earlier column on kissinger
The strike on school appears to be the worst mass casualty event of the US-Israeli-led bombing campaign on Iran so far.
Might try finding a source that doesn't load up on false-wording and narratives (and bad grammar) like, "The strike on school appears to be the worst mass casualty event of the US-Israeli-led bombing campaign on Iran so far."
Was that the one Iran did?
The strike on school two days ago was the deadliest mass casualty even since the mass casualty event Iran inflicted on its own people two weeks ago.
Pretty soon it will be like like Palestine, where all the hospitals' generators are going to run out of fuel in the next 24 hours for two months straight and everything down to a traffic accident that kills three or more people will be the deadliest mass casualty even since the last mass casualty event.
Yes, but the western media believes and reports everything the Iranian government and Hamas says.
Every fucking time.
Because Petti expects one single plan that you stick to no matter what happens?
Personally, I'm in favor of waging war based on whims and vibes. What do you think?
What about culture wars, jeff? Can those be waged on trains? What do you think? Hmmmm?
By the way, what’s so great about trains, jeff?
People need to get their heads out of their asses if they want to play RealPolitik.
Trump and his team can’t get their story straight on why they started this war, how long they plan to fight it, and whether they'll put boots on the ground.
Iran has been fighting this war since 1979. They can blame the CIA installing the Shah in power in 1953, but the continued Islamic terrorism against the West hasn't been about the Shah in a long long time. Blaming the only democracy in the area for the problems of all the theocracies in the area is pretty pathetic.
Ask the Islamic terrorists how long they plan on continuing their terrorism. Ask the Iranian ayatollah-to-be how long he plans on trying to acquire nuclear weapons while sponsoring terrorism. Stop pretending Iranian politicians are noble and all others are evil. You're supposed to be writing for a libertarian rag -- maybe you should try to figure out who's been aggressing against everyone else since 1979 before getting all pissy about the last couple of days.
"Iran has been fighting this war since 1979. They can blame the CIA installing the Shah in power in 1953"
Not aimed at you, but that entire talking point is beyond old.
Mossadegh had dissolved the Parliament and sought to give himself the powers of the Shah. They removed a despot. A borderline insane one.
It's been like 1 day, but yeah.
Wake me up when we have an 8 year war (Iraq) or 20 year war (Afghanistan).
not mentioned is the fact that the Iranian population is literate and that those in Iraq and Afghanistan were not ... might have a minor impact on the nation building/regime change calculus
"trump and his team can’t get their story straight on why they started this war, how long they plan to fight it, and whether they'll put boots on the ground."
didn't reason just put out a column earlier today on what a duplicitous weasel kissinger was
Fog of war has descended. Clinton had his rape rooms in Bosnia. Hamas had hospitals running out of power for hours that turned into months. Truth has died. Again. The victors will write history. Again. To draw conclusions at this point is battling windmills.
No war without Congressional authorization. Down with Dictators.
>>The U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran that began over the weekend is shaping up to be a serious regional war.
not at all. you're wishcasting.
This Reason blog has descended into a mindless echo chamber with no value to anyone anymore. The responses offer nothing to bring back anyone with a mind. Yeah, there are a very few smart people still here. But I think I'm done now. Good - saves me paying for subscription.