Greenland as a Stress Test for MAGA Loyalty
Brexit leader Daniel Hannan urges Trump voters to hit the exits.
Pollsters have long understood that the act of casting a ballot creates a bond. Once we have voted for a candidate, we feel invested in him. We don't want to admit to ourselves that we might have made a mistake.
Psychologists have lots of terms for the cognitive glitches that make us think this way: post-decision rationalization, dissonance reduction, commitment escalation, choice-supportive bias. But these phrases don't do justice to the sheer intensity of what happened in red states in November 2016. Voters who detested Hillary Clinton were emotionally fused to the man who defeated her. Something similar happened eight years later with Kamala Harris, soldering the attachment more firmly.
I understand it. On three successive occasions, the Democrats put up terrible candidates—a curiously self-indulgent thing to do, given how high the stakes were, but that's another story.
I don't get a vote, obviously—that was settled at Yorktown—but if I had had one, my candidate in 2016 would have been Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico. Still, let's be honest: Reason is perhaps the only serious publication where I can mention a Libertarian Party candidate and expect more than the tiniest flicker of recognition. For most Americans in most states, there were only two plausible candidates, and, having chosen one on faute-de-mieux grounds, they began unconsciously to build him up in their minds.
After all, Donald Trump was delivering on a fair chunk of what he promised. He deported illegal immigrants, stopped appointing left-wing activist judges, moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, cut federal regulations, and said what his voters wanted to hear about trans people. True, his tariffs raised prices and made America less competitive. But in the country with the largest gross domestic product in the world, trade is a small proportion of the economy; a spectacularly dumb tariff policy can be offset by moderately sensible policies on taxation, regulation, and energy abundance.
At the same time, Trump was being attacked, often stupidly and dishonestly, by people whom his voters cordially loathed. We are a tribal species, and each such attack pushed them closer to him.
As time passed, the nose pegs came off. Trump was their guy. Sure, he could be brash, bombastic, boorish. But he was more or less delivering on what he had been elected to do. Who cared about his character failings? When you hire a plumber, do you ask whether he is faithful to his wife, or do you just want to get your boiler fixed?
Trump's character flaws, with all the inevitability of a Greek tragedy, led to the breakdown of January 6, 2021. Everyone knew, his supporters especially, that Trump cannot admit defeat. Whenever something goes against him—a business deal, an awards ceremony, a round of golf—he calls foul and claims victory. Because no one dared check this behavior in him as president, it became more extreme and more destructive.
Will anything turn MAGA against him? I wondered whether, by threatening to annex Greenland, he had found the one issue where his base would not follow him. He was elected as the candidate who would put an end to foreign adventurism, and voters opposed taking Greenland by 71 percent to 4 percent—4 percent being, coincidentally, the "lizardman's constant," the estimated proportion of people in any poll who will give insincere or demented replies. Perhaps that is why, as I write, he seems to be backing down from the demand.
The drama, the neediness, the insistence that owning Greenland was "psychologically important for me," the demented letter to the Norwegian prime minister saying that, because he had not won the Nobel Prize, he might just seize someone else's territory—will his people continue to back him through all that?
Trump's refusal to understand that the Norwegian government does not control the Nobel committee is telling. During my time in politics, I came across this tendency again and again when dealing with representatives of tinpot dictatorships. "Why will you not let British Airways fly to our glorious capital?" Well, they're an independent airline and, if they think the route is profitable, I'm sure they'll put on a flight. "Lies! Why does your government not act?"
The only two examples I can think of where officials blamed the Norwegian government for the prizes were in 1935, when Hitler went ballistic over the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Carl von Ossietzky, a German pacifist, and in 2010, when China froze relations with Oslo over its award to the dissident Liu Xiaobo. The idea of attacking a country—let alone a different country—over not getting the prize is without precedent.
There is no point in sugarcoating this. The chief executive is unfit for office. His erratic behavior, his inability to distinguish between his public role and his private interests, his determination to subordinate U.S. foreign policy to his personal wants: These things should bar him.
Congress could put a stop to all this nonsense tomorrow. It could reassert its prerogatives over trade policy and cancel the tariffs. It could begin impeachment proceedings on the grounds that the president is no longer compos mentis. But, filled with cowards and flatterers, it hangs back. And so the checks and balances that the founders put in precisely to contain two-bit Caesarists fail for lack of will.
"A republic—if you can keep it." Can you, cousins?
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The 5 Ds of Partisan Hackery
-Dodge
-Duck
-Deny
-Defame
and
-Dodge
The one L of lefty bullshit:
Lie. And keep lying.
It's all you have, asswipe.
Yeah, no one's voting for Trump ever again . . .
No need to.
If the republicans win the White House, and keep the house, they can appoint him speaker without a single electoral vote.
Then the President and vice-president resign, and bingo! term three.
(Sleep well tonight, lefties)
Boy, I really hope no one is seriously considering that possibility. Aside from constitutional concerns, Trump has played an important role in changing American politics, which I think needed to happen (even if I don't always love the way it's happening). But he's old and will have had two terms. It will be time for someone else to take the reins.
Why not? The Democrats were pushing exactly this a couple years ago.
Trump isn't allowed to hold any office that leads to the Presidency after his term, so it's an overwrought concern to troll the left I think.
The damage is already done. Trump's actions and the Republican members of Congress unwillingness to stop him has shown the world that the US is an unreliable partner that has no problem violating international agreements. Trump has severely weakened the US on the international stage.
""Trump has severely weakened the US on the international stage.""
Ending American exceptionalism is a lefty philosophy. Shouldn't they be applauding?
"Trump has severely weakened the US on the international stage."
Oh no!
Anyway...
"The damage is already done"
To what passes for your brain, 混蛋.
The hilarity there is that Trump got what he wanted - much needed bases in the Arctic. And strengthening our standing in NATO. We lead it, because we spend most of the money. By the end of the confab, all those NATO leaders were fawning over Trump.
So, who do you think thinks that “Trump has severely weakened the US on the international stage”? Putin and the ChiComs sure don’t. The Russians have dozens of bases, many quite large, for their roughly half of the Arctic, and China apparently is leasing a base in Norway. My guess is that your talking point was essentially, pushed and maybe funded, by those two countries, our major geopolitical enemies, as is common. And are pushing that meme for their own, well known, geopolitical reasons.
"Trump has severely weakened the US on the international stage"
Kicking your rapist in the head isn't being weakened by any stretch.
Well, Danny me old son, would you prefer the US buy Greenland or that Russia or Communist China take it by force?
(Military force, or more likely, economic force)
How about neither? There is no indication in the world that either China or Russia have any interest in Greenland. Where do you get this idea, because a senile old man said so.
That just is not true at all.
We’ve been trying to get Greenland for about 100 years now.
This falls on the Republicans. The Democrats took their time but they stepped up and told Joe Biden to step back. Now the Republicans need to do the same. We need an orderly transition to JD Vance, not a chaotic scramble that seems likely to happen sooner rather than later. Joe Biden could not do another 4 years and neither can Donald Trump.
Joe Biden could not do another 4 years and neither can Donald Trump.
You're right, Trump can't do another four years. He has three years left on this term and can't be reelected (see 22nd Amendment).
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha haha!
Uhm, you know there isn't another 4 years for Trump, right?
https://babylonbee.com/news/whoops-trump-reveals-hes-actually-been-thinking-of-iceland-this-whole-time
"What? Bjork's from Iceland? Fuck!"
Stick to enabling the invasion of Britain by Muslims and Africans and covering for the mass rape and abuse of native women there through your impotence, stop lecturing others about shit you know nothing about.
This article makes a lot more sense if you imagine it read in a British crumbled empire accent with a muezzin screaming in the background.
Mr. Hannah, your government is embarrassingly censorious, is floating eliminating most jury trials,, and generally stupidly authoritarian. You are spending billions of public funds houdingillefal immigrants in hotels while beneficiaries harass British school girls. Your current primary "opposition" party has been "me too"ing on much of this agenda. Your Prime Minister and his government are unfit for office.
Clean up your own mess before you presume to give us advice on how to keep our house, thank you very much.
You started out sort of in the right direction here and then went off the rails. Trump is not incompetent mentally or in any other way. If there's a problem here it's that Trump "wins" regularly after throwing verbal hissy fits because other people LET him win. European leaders learned fairly early in the game not to LET him win. When Trump attacks verbally they dig in their heels and fight back VERBALLY. Then Trump, having gained whatever emotional advantage there was to gain, starts "negotiating." Apparently Reason commentators have not yet learned this.
Did you only come to this conclusion now, and not for Biden the senile puppet, cousin? Because that would be TDS, cousin. Maybe your NHS can treat you. And you're a Tory, cousin? Mayhaps you should be held responsible for the Net Zero policies your party supports .... cousin.
Are the walls closing in? Is this the tipping point? Perhaps the beginning of the end?
No, no and no.
Is Daniel Hannan a steaming pile of lying TDS-addled shit?
Why, yes, he is.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Having celebrated von Ossietzky making Hitler sad in 1935, Lord Hannan should have recalled Norway's Quisling literature laureate Hamsun making Goebbels happy in 1943 by giving him his 1920 Nobel Prize medal.
Brother Hannan, fix the beam in your eye.
You've allowed the subversion of Brexit, allowed the destruction of British freedom - right or wrong, your opinion holds no weight.
Now this is how you 50¢
Hannan, why did the Conservatives get absolutely *wrecked* in the last election?
Why does Two-Tier get to be considered a competent leader over there?
Why do you whine about Greenland when your giving the Chagos away to some other country a thousand miles away and then *paying* for the privilege of continuing to administer it?
LMFAO. Well if the Brexit leader says so.
You have to be fucking kidding me. This must have been Sullums idea.
Foreign elections interference!
Once we have voted for a candidate, we feel invested in him. We don't want to admit to ourselves that we might have made a mistake.
I think Dietrich Bonhoeffer's insight is better. It is not really a matter of lack of will after that investment of a vote. Once we 'voted for the right side' (which acquires power), then it is a basic human instinct to go along with and support that power. We surrender our independence because that's the way we voted - to surrender our independence to the power that won.
So now - we are not interested in listening to reasons why that power might be faulty. We are immune to that and indeed we will resist - to and beyond the point of evil - anything that diminishes that power. The vote itself turned us into an instrument of conformity - of belonging. There is no individual escape. All the media/social manipulation that 'persuaded' us that our particular voting choice was wise - now compels us to 'stay the course'.
And there is no 'solution' in any sense of persuasion or instruction or anything that separates the individual from the now-mob. Consent of the governed MUST become mob-rule once the act of consent takes place. Bonhoeffer described what could positively occur as 'liberation' but if you dig down what he is really saying is 'must be defeated by external forces'.