Regime Changed?
Plus: the illegality of the Maduro raid, the wide open question of what happens next, and more
Maduro captured: In a raid early Saturday morning on a military residential complex in the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, U.S. military forces captured the country's president, Nicolas Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores. The two will stand trial in New York City for a long list of drug-trafficking-related charges.
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Maduro is being held in the Metropolitan Detention Center, a federal jail in Brooklyn. He and his wife are expected to be arraigned in federal court today. Delcy Rodríguez, a vice president under Maduro, has been sworn in as the interim leader.
Maduro is a bad man and a worse singer whose dictatorial regime impoverished Venezuela and maintained itself through a mix of corruption, repression, and stolen elections. His ouster nevertheless raises a number of serious questions, including what legal power President Donald Trump had to unilaterally depose him—and just how involved the United States will be in running the country now.
The illegality of the Maduro raid: The U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. Bombing a foreign country's capital and arresting its president are plainly acts of war that received no authorization from Congress. The Trump administration clearly seems to have violated the Constitution.
Trump himself has largely not bothered to offer any legal justification for ousting Maduro. Vice President J.D. Vance has argued on social media that since Maduro had been charged with federal crimes, the U.S. was well within its rights to go arrest him.
"You don't get to avoid justice for drug trafficking in the United States because you live in a palace in Caracas," he wrote.
And PSA for everyone saying this was "illegal":
Maduro has multiple indictments in the United States for narcoterrorism. You don't get to avoid justice for drug trafficking in the United States because you live in a palace in Caracas.
— JD Vance (@JDVance) January 3, 2026
That's not convincing. If Vance were correct, all any president would need to do to start a war is have his Justice Department file charges against a foreign leader. That's hardly compatible with Congress controlling the power to initiate hostilities.
The most direct historical parallel to the Maduro operation would be the U.S. ouster of Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega in 1989 after he stole an election and was indicted on drug smuggling charges.
But as Ilya Somin points out, there are some important legal differences. Panamanian forces had killed a U.S. Marine in the Panama Canal Zone and captured other U.S. citizens. Also, the Panamanian government declared war on the United States.
Over the weekend, Reason's Eric Boehm wrote a more comprehensive explanation of why the Trump administration's ouster of Maduo was illegal, which everyone should read.
Arguing against the president's power to bomb other countries without any congressional input might feel quaint, given how often they've done it in the past few decades without consequence.
As Harvard law professor Jack Goldsmith succinctly put it on his Substack over the weekend, "Congress has given the president a gargantuan global military force with few constraints and is AWOL in overseeing what the president does with it. Courts won't get involved in reviewing unilateral presidential uses of force."
Even so, there's a reason the Constitution gave Congress, not the president, the power to declare war in the first place. Entering a military conflict is a grave decision. Any decision to go to war should be preceded by debate among elected officials about what our war aims are, and how much blood and treasure we're willing to spend to accomplish them.
None of that happened here, leaving everyone guessing what exactly comes next for U.S. involvement in Venezuela.
What next?: During his initial Saturday press conference announcing the Maduro raid, Trump seemed to say that the U.S. was at the beginning of a comprehensive regime-change mission that would require heavy American involvement.
"We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition," said the president. "We want peace, liberty and justice for the great people of Venezuela."
But as the weekend progressed, Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio attempted to downplay U.S. involvement and seemed to swear off any explicit goal of regime change.
"There's not a war. We are at war against drug trafficking organizations—not a war against Venezuela," said Rubio in one media appearance. When asked about Trump's claim that we'd be running Venezuela, Rubio said that we were merely "running policy—the policy with regards to this."
Likewise, on Sunday night Trump said his administration was talking to Rodríguez, the newly sworn-in interim president. Asked by reporters what he'd want from Rodríguez, Trump said: "We need total access. We need access to the oil and to other things in their country that allow us to rebuild their country."
At the same time, he's said that if Rodríguez doesn't comply with U.S. demands, "she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro."
The president has also said that María Corina Machado, the leader of Venezuela's democratic opposition and recent recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, lacked the "respect" needed to govern the country.
Rodríguez herself denounced U.S. intervention immediately after being sworn in and insisted Maduro was still the rightful president of Venezuela. Over the weekend, however, she's also said she's offered "to collaborate" with the Trump administration.
There's certainly an upside, relatively speaking, to cutting a deal for Venezuelan oil and calling it a day. That path carries a lot less risk that the U.S. will get embroiled in another protracted foreign conflict. Democratic transitions are hard, and the U.S. does not have a particularly good track record of interventions in Latin America.
But ousting a dictator just so you can coerce the next one into coughing up some natural resources is not an honorable thing to do. Removing Maduro hardly seems worth the effort in that context, particularly given the illegal means by which it was carried out.
One hopes for a day when America's foreign policy isn't a choice between using the military to remake the world in our image or being a transactional bully. That day is not today.
Scenes From D.C.: A small group of protestors organized by the far-left Party of Socialism and Liberation (PSL) gathered outside the White House to protest Maduro's ouster. PSL is a mainstay of Lafayette Square protests, even if it is less than influential in the wider world of American politics. I'm always impressed by their ability to print topical signs for every occasion.
QUICK HITS
- The Wall Street Journal has a piece on how Trump was won over to ousting Maduro.
- Is Trump uninterested in helping Machado because he thinks she stole his Nobel Peace Prize?
"Two people close to the WH said the president's lack of interest in boosting Machado…stemmed from her decision to accept the Nobel Peace Prize, an award the president has openly coveted.
"If she had turned it down and said, 'I can't accept it because it's Donald Trump's,'…
— Vera Bergengruen (@VeraMBergen) January 5, 2026
- Congressional Democrats criticize the Maduro raid as illegal and unjustified.
- Europe is monitoring the situation.
Following very closely the situation in Venezuela. We stand by the people of Venezuela and support a peaceful and democratic transition. Any solution must respect international law and the UN Charter.
With HRVP @kajakallas and in coordination with EU Member States, we are…
— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) January 3, 2026
- That dancing was really a bad idea in retrospect:
*Maduro's constant dancing became the last straw for Trump, he pressed the button
*White House settled on Delcy as an acceptable candidate. Her ability to edge up oil output under sanctions impressed some Trump officials
*Machado was never a frontrunnerhttps://t.co/DvhHvYVjR1
— Anatoly Kurmanaev (@AKurmanaev) January 4, 2026
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We arrested a very bad man. End of story.
Bad hombre.
DJT has joined a long line of violaters,Putin,Xi,the mullahs,Maduro and the Cambods for starters
True libertarianism is just complaining about said bad man while giving him money if he promises to not be so bad and letting the millions under him continue to suffer while advocating those millions to come to the US and get free welfare and benefits.
Team America World Police.
Unhappy one as your benefactors was arrested, Sarc?
Poor sarc. Supported sending tens of billions to Ukraine. Hates a 3 hour action.
Maybe this will help.
https://x.com/NateFriedman97/status/2007601639029608737
Nate Friedman
@NateFriedman97
I showed a "no war with venzuela" protestor how venezuelans are celebrating in the streets.
brain.exe stopped working.
What Sarcasmic doesn't want to acknowledge is that Maduro was actively involved in shipping drugs into the US. This isn't some some dictatorship that threatened it's neighbors and is now being "liberated" for the sake of "democracy".
They kidnapped a narcotraficante who was actively involved in smuggling and gang ops into the US.
But Sarc is being a hypocrite. Remember in 2022 how upset he was when Joe Biden had ex-Honduras president Juan Orlando Hernández, shipped to the US to face narcotrafficking charges?
Me neither.
He was just fine with that but maybe because it was (D)ifferent.
well... it was ALSO a dictatorship that threatened its neighbors....
Fu Manchu is a nationalist . Who knew?
Nationalist? No. I just believe in sovereignty and non-aggression.
Except against your “mean girls”, eh, Sarcasmic?
Hey, lookit how Pootin successfully managed to run Ukraine! And Afghanistan... Grenada? Panamá?
Grenada and Panama were a quick in and out mission. Haven’t had much trouble in either since, Hank.
I was at both of those places while in uniform. Both were pretty clean operations. Unlike Venezuela we had a military presence for some time after the original operation
Being jealous because you are not American and do not have the privileges to travel safely internationally is not becoming.
Try to remember when you eat an imported food item ratio'd to you that the USA made the seas safe for the food to arrive to your grandma's apartment.
As I recall, they fucked that asshole good and hard and the mission was a resounding success, much to the dismay of F.A.G. ……ok, I see where you’re coming from now. Lol.
Fuck Yeah.
I forgot, how many votes did muduro get again?
Just enoughate at night and held under threats of protection if anyone asked questions.
Wait. Sounds familiar.
Since when did this become my problem? There’s a shitty dictator in Caracas. That’s their problem. There’s a shitty dictator in Washington DC. That’s my problem.
Your problem, Shrike, is explaining exactly how you managed to get your original SPB account permanently banned and got Reason to nuke an entire thread due to you posting hardcore dark web CP links here.
About every 2 months ago I feel compelled to state that I am not, in fact, Shrike, Buttplug, etc.
I’m a libertarian socialist indifferent to arguments about how the free market brings about prosperity (I suppose… maybe). Buttplug is about as free market as they come. It’s only Dear Leader’s corruption and his band of fucking lickspittle toadies that bring this socialist and him together. Strange bedfellows in this land of suckups and morons.
Ok, Mr. Peanuts. You gave yourself away with that, Shrike.
"I’m a libertarian socialist..."
So, you're a retard. Doesn't help your case at all.
I usually stay out of the sock sniffing game, but KAR had a particular dislike for Sandra if I’m not mistaken, and this douchebag hates Liz Wolfe, so a pattern of contempt for chicks who are way smarter than him would more likely link this asshole with KAR, not buttplug.
Whatever. He’s a doosh either way.
Borders are a thing again?
It depends. Are those borders in place to prevent the flow of goods and labor or are those borders in place to prevent an imperialist invasion of a sovereign country that never threatened or attacked us. Context matters.
Schrödinger's borders
Just because you never voted for Trump. Most likely because you are not American, doesn't make him a dictator.
He actually won the election, dictators do not.
Christian seems to be a Margaret Brennan watcher who was asking Rubio why they didnt do 5 concurrent strikes at once to get everyone in the regime. A stupid question then but truly resonated with Christian.
Trump is a dictator who doesnt dictate hard enough seems to be the complaint.
And a raging anti-Semite literally Hitler who defends Jews everywhere. Israel is so stupid to think he's their friend. Don't they know that the party who calls them genocidaires and attacks Jews on the streets of New York and breaks the windows of their shops are their real allies?
Study continues to show most government finger on the energy sector is for renewable who dominate actual subsidies.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/subsidies-renewables-account-almost-all-energy-sector-federal-support-new
How many times do I have to say it? EVs are just. really. popular.
We're lucky they started with energy and transportation or were stopped where they were before giving us "Cricket meal cooked over an electric burner is just. really. popular."
Free the crickets!
https://lfpress.com/business/local-business/london-cricket-farm-lays-off-two-thirds-of-workforce-ledc
https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/01/bugs-not-a-feature/
I know NR is not popular around here, but I skim the most "interesting" articles, and this one was a doozie. WEF featured prominently.
Is Trump uninterested in helping Machado because he thinks she stole his Nobel Peace Prize?
Even trump knows you can’t have chicks in charge.
Then I hope Delcy Rodriguez's mustache will be more macho than Maduro's.
What a stupid smear that is. Just pure character assassination without a shred of evidence.
"The Trump bogeyman in my head is just like that so it must be true".
Two people close to the WH said . . .
So were they part of the President's inner circle, or just a couple of rando's standing at 17th and Pennsylvania?
He let the VP be in charge. A VP who is a raging socialist and hates the US. It's interesting he allowed that but I bet the Dept of State told him a functioning government was more important at this point. I do know that less that 24hrs after a vindictive and heated blast at the US calling America Imperialist Dogs and so on, Pres Trump had a phone call with her and suddenly she was eager to partner with America for the good of the people. I can only imagine what was said on that call but she seems to have had a Come To Jesus experience.
The Democrats just don’t get it.
https://x.com/constantino/status/2007978873636663463?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
I believe a politician’s job is to make the world better. Good ones bring happiness, safety, and prosperity. Bad ones create misery, violence, and ruin.
I don't exactly agree with this statement, but if a politician must change the world, for the better is the obvious choice. Funny thing is, that makes me the wrong kind of libertarian who doesn't cheerlead misery, violence, and ruin.
I disagree. A politicians job is not to make the world better. A politicians job is to create the conditions for people to thrive or fail on their own merits and stay out of the way.
If this is the end of the Ds because they are too chickenshit to stand up to such blatant illegal and unconstitutional acts, so be it.
China hardest hit.
Fuck off commie scum.
So a win - win!
"such blatant illegal and unconstitutional acts"
And yet Tony will never say what makes them illegal and unconstitutional acts, even if you ask him.
"never say" means "always says" in MAGA stupid language.
Lol
Well that's a lie, but here's a chance to prove me wrong, Tony. Tell everyone right now.
I’m with ya on this one, molly. I’ll take the end of the Ds any way I can get it. Good to see you come around to a sensible position for once.
Haha.
I'm not saying it's necessarily my conclusion on the matter, but it is possible that this was both a good thing for Venezuela, the US and the Americas, and also illegal.
Likely not illegal based on many factors.
https://jonathanturley.org/2026/01/03/the-united-states-captures-nicolas-maduro-and-his-wife/
If Noriega was legal, then so was this. Courts said it was, but that doesn't mean we can't still argue about it. But as far as precedent goes, this is definitely not unprecedented and as things stand now, probably legal according to the courts.
Still in the learning phase here, but from my reading, Noriega's capture was NOTfound to be legal or illegal. The courts just held that he could be prosecuted regardless of whether or not it was legal. The raid itself was never adjudicated.
This is the problem, these abuses of power are either never challenged or get dismissed with bullshit type justiciability rulings.
Having said that, lack of prosecution is sort of a precedent in itself so it would likely be found de facto legal in court, especially given the new presidential immunity
But none of that applied to impeachment, which is pretty much purely political.
Fair point.
I think a big part of the problem is that constitutional government won't happen without most people in government making good faith efforts to abide by the constitution, and it's been a long time since that's been the case. It's not going to happen through the courts. I'm no big fan of actions like this. But it's not really any worse than what we've seen from various administrations for decades.
It can't be called abuse of power if it is not deemed legally, an abuse of power.
There is no new Presidential immunity. It was always there. SCOTUS simply defined it more clearly.
Hard disagree, but I understand your points.
But it was legal. Congress gave the President the power to act unilaterally through the War Powers Resolution. If they don't want things like this going on then they can rescind it. The problem, if you see one, is that Dems are not going to do it because they want their President like Obama to do the exact thing. They will screech and fundraise but that's it.
Turley is an orange lipped MAGA shrill.
Jealousy is not becoming and your stupidity is your only shining light. Seek help.
Poor molly
Your too stupid to understand legislation. Take a comprehensive reading course and then give The War Powers Resolution another go. Who is paying you to troll websites? What foreign country are you in? Bangladesh? India? Russia?
It's China. He was outed when X released locations.
"Nicolás Maduro is a bad politician."
WADR: Maduro is an excellent politician to remain in power despite the above, at least by Latinx standards. He's bad at public policy, economics, and respect of the rule of law. But as far as politics is concerned, he's on point, and would probably have remained in power until death. That's being good at politics.
That's not convincing. If Vance were correct, all any president would need to do to start a war is have his Justice Department file charges against a foreign leader. That's hardly compatible with Congress controlling the power to initiate hostilities.
This sounds exactly like Maddow, Sisson, Molly G, and the rest of the left parroting the same shit.
I thought all a president had to do to make it legal was wait until the target goes to a wedding?
Remember when he joked about his drone strikes to a kid wanting to date his daughter? Ha ha ha. So hilarious.
American Presidents wage war whenever they feel like it. It's what they do. I don't like it, but then I don't pretend that it's only certain Presidents who do so.
Didn't Biden file the charges?
Yep.
Yes*?*
The cherry on top would be if this fits in under Biden's blanket amnesty.
Dems thought Trump was Putin's puppet for not overthrowing Maduro in his first term.
Maduro stole his most recent election, ergo, he was not the valid leader.
What is wrong with that statement? That is exactly what the Trump administration is saying and it is legal BS.
there are three things wrong with the statement why are you the only one who doesn't see them?
Like the ICC, Maduro was not recognized as the leader of Venezuela.
Countries that did NOT recognize Maduro as the president of Venezuela
United States
Canada
United Kingdom
France
Germany
Spain
Italy
Netherlands
Sweden
Denmark
Finland
Portugal
Austria
Belgium
Ireland
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Brazil (Bolsonaro era)
Colombia
Argentina (Macri government)
Chile
Peru
Paraguay
Ecuador
Guatemala
Honduras
Panama
Costa Rica
Israel
Japan
Australia
Countries that recognized Maduro as the president
Russia
China < Lol Tony
Iran
Turkey
Cuba
Bolivia (after Morales period)
Nicaragua
Syria
A country recognizing who is and is not the head of state of another country is not at all relevant to the legality of using the military to attack, invade, and kidnap their citizens.
If you have charges pending they are coming to your house to get you so you stand trial for the charges per US due process.
You bitched and moaned about due process for years now and as Maduro is now getting his due process you cry foul?
Molly isn’t very bright
Some might say Molly is the biggest retard here.
No, that would be Jeffy.
Where was this pang of conscience two years ago when Old Joe offered a reward for Maduro's arrest and capture, Tony?
2021 Tony - "get Maduro"
2022 Tony - "get Maduro"
2023 Tony - "get Maduro"
2024 Tony - "get Maduro"
2025 Tony - "Trump's too chickenshit to get Maduro"
2026 Tony - "A country recognizing who is and is not the head of state of another country is not at all relevant to the legality of using the military to attack, invade, and kidnap their citizens."
You're such an absolute joke.
You say far too many stupid things to believe any of it. Are you a Canadian Troll?
Chinese.
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
The person in charge of the UN Security Council had a taxpayer funded healthcare company which was convicted of medicaid fraud and worked as a supervisor in a medicaid government office
What a time to be alive
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Holy smokes you will never believe this
Somalia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs owns a home healthcare company in Ohio. There’s two other healthcare companies in the same suite as his and multiple others at this address with Somali owners
What are the odds…
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Omg
Somalia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs who owns a healthcare company in Ohio receiving tax dollars, also owns another LLC with the SAME ADDRESS as the somali money transfer org accused of funding t*rrorism.
His business partner appears to work for the money transfer org too.
This just keeps getting worse and worse
https://notthebee.com/article/somalis-new-un-ambassador-owns-daycare-in-ohio
And finally. A boarded up preschool that holds up to 99 kids per records.
https://x.com/PGard0191/status/2007489588835836296
But dont worry. NBC says they operating normally! Often seeing a handful of kids occasionally there. We'll worth the hundreds of thousands a year they get!
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-department-finds-child-care-centers-targeted-viral-video-ope-rcna252013?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=69589bdbf6b71000019827be&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Often seeing a handful of kids occasionally there.
In fairness, they aren't (exactly) using them as human shields... yet.
Apparently household1 hires household2 to watch each others kids. Federally required wages of $20+ per hour. 4 kids (whether real or made-up) per house.
4kids x $20per hour x 8 hrs/ day x 250 days = $160,000 for each household.
Contact me as I am opening my daycare tomorrow. I really just need some good names. I can make it worth your while.
CBS called one and the daycare said they were legit so end of story.
And democrats are treating these programs like USAID. So this is really trumps fault for ending usaid.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/01/03/now-we-know-why-democrats-are-defending-somali-fraud-n4947845
I am not sure what to make of the legalities of what Trump did to capture Maduro as part of war powers and Congressional approval. On the other hand the Biden administration put a bounty on Maduro for his capture. I am not sure how that is not an act of war against a head of state, legitimacy issues aside.
Just look at Noriega. Has almost the exact same legal structure. It isnt difficult to see leftists are just nashing their teeth. And they used many more troops for that capture.
They did it before. That makes it okay.
precedent
noun
prec·e·dent ˈpre-sə-dənt
1: an earlier occurrence of something similar. There are no precedents for these events. [=nothing like these events has happened before]
2a: something done or said that may serve as an example or rule to authorize or justify a subsequent act of the same or an analogous kind
specifically,
law : a judicial decision that should be followed by a judge when deciding a later similar case compare stare decisis
b: the convention established by such a precedent or by long practice
3: a person or thing that serves as a model
Ok, Sarc.
Fucking hilarious that you deny being sarc, sarc.
Yes. That is how our legal system works retard.
The courts already weighed in on the actions retard.
Poor stupid sarcbot.
Funny he got stuck using this sock.
What does that mean? Stuck how?
As a worthless hobo living off welfare, Sarc can’t afford multiple accounts. So he’s stuck with this one and not ‘Sarcasmic’. As almost all of his money goest to booze.
Did the pay to comment go into effect finally?
Not for me, but I’ve been wondering that myself based on some of the comments.
Try to change your handle.
Now I get it. Thanks.
Same here. I’ve tried to change it over the past few weeks to no avail.
These dumbasses don't even know what they mean. When they don't have any logical arguments, they just fling shit. Because they're a bunch of retarded monkeys.
You should probably read the comment thread before saying a retarded non-sequitur again.
GoPI said you're stuck with your nick and can't change it, Quicktown asked what he meant by that, GoPI explained... then you went: "they don't have any logical arguments, they just fling shit".
Stupid fucking drunken troll.
Sarc actually did mute me (top of the list!) which is why Fu Mansarc didn’t see my response.
If you say you're not a Sarc sock, I believe it.
-White Mike Sock
Yeah just a coincidence sarc hasn’t posted since they locked in everyone that hasn’t paid, and Fu Mansarc, who used to be just an occasional poster, started posting every day at the same time.
But his posting style is completely different!
I have Fu man sarc muted but it must have been as a different name as I did not mute anyone named fu man sarc.
If you muted sarc, Fu Mansarc will be muted.
I have to agree. You cannot condemn Trump for not getting a declaration of war, something that has not happened in 80 years, while ignoring the War Powers act that pretty explicitly allows the president to do a lot of this.
And, as has been said, Biden put a bounty on Maduro's head. How is it perfectly okay to hire someone to kill or capture him but anathema to do it ourselves?
"Ursula von de Leyen"
Speaking of unelected tyrants...
Impeach.
Yes, we should impeach Newsom, Pritzker, and a few other asshole governors, plus a number of district judges starting with Boasberg.
No, we should impeach any president who doesn't get authorize from Congress to attack anither nation. Said the same about Obama and Libya.
Impeach Spectre. Then we'll talk.
Too bad we can’t get rid of them the same way as Maduro.
Ask Rod Blagojevich.
The guy's gone totally mad. Threatening Mexico and Cuba, doubling down on taking Greenland. Pants on head retarded and belongs in a padded room. Just a matter of time before it all comes crashing down.
Just a matter of time before it all comes crashing down.
The walls are closing in!
Again!
They already closed in with #34orangefelonies
Poor retarded drunk sarc. Dont worry. Tonight you can mainline your maddow fix.
Drinking early today, sarc?
Yawn. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard that……
Bigots.
https://x.com/robkhenderson/status/2008017809071325592?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
And these are the assholes who claim MAGA is a cult. The real cult seems to be the current Democrat Party.
and 30 percent would not work for one.
Um, who wants to tell them?
This is why they are pro welfare.
Liberals more likely to say political violence sometimes justified
https://thehill.com/national-security/5504569-americans-political-violence-poll/
A quarter of respondents who identified as “very liberal” said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals, along with 17 percent of those who identified as “liberal,” 9 percent of moderates, 6 percent of those who said they’re “conservative” and 3 percent of those who identified as “very conservative.”
Younger Americans were also more likely to say political violence can sometimes be justified.
Twenty-six percent of liberals under 45 years old, compared with 12 percent of liberals 45 and older, said political violence can sometimes be justified; 12 percent of moderates under 45 years old, compared with 6 percent of moderates 45 and over, said it’s sometimes justified; and 7 percent of younger conservatives, compared with 4 percent of older conservatives, said it’s sometimes justified.
See? The Looter Kleptocracy is absolutely in love with the initiation of deadly force in an age of thermonuclear weapons, nerve gas and COVID-style biological weapons. And the Jesus Caucus has--albeit with zero votes--made that position unanimous!
No, I don’t see.
Turn on, tune in and drop out, man. - Hank
Don't see it at all, crazypants.
" violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals"
Isn't using violence/force to achieve political goals the literal definition of terrorism?
The use of force is also the definition of government.
When conducted by non-state actors, yes.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/us-news/one-person-arrested-after-windows-broken-at-jd-vance-cincinnati-home/
What percentage of cultists support the political violence used to seize Maduro, I wonder. Verging on 100%, it seems.
Say diet-Shrike, how many countries said they did not recognize Maduro as the victor and real president after the 2018 election?
How many recognized his opponent as the real president of Venezuela?
Was it all the major Western and Latin American countries except for Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, Cuba, Nicaragua and Syria?
Who are you bemoaning being caught? A drug lord or a legitimate president?
Fuckwit, I have already expressed my views on the removal of Maduro - "good riddance" - while expressing my doubts over what the regime will do hereafter. The actual point is the approval of political violence. You cannot whine and whinge over some Democrats approving of political violence while happily supporting the regime wrt Maduro - which was a lethal act of political violence.
(The Republican numbers regarding Democrats were 7, 5, and 7 percent.)
And, given the context, this is "I wouldn't work for anyone who voted for even a single Republican-led initiative, even at the county level, in the last 40 yrs." vs. "I wouldn't work for anyone who forced me to take experimental drugs and dance in a rainbow thong at a pride parade as condition of my employment."
The 63% of Democratic college students who would be friends with a hate filled bigoted fascist have zero morals.
So they shouldn’t be friends with you?
Said it before, will say it again. China Tony loved and adores Maos Red Guard.
Put down the shovel, the walls are beginning to collapse in on you.
The two will stand trial in New York City for a long list of drug-trafficking-related charges.
NYC Presidente Madmani should put a stop to that.
That might be interesting. The list of charges that I read also included at least one count of 'using machine guns against the United States' or something similar.
The guy may be guilty of a lot, but that one at least seems suspect.
My guess is it’s based off him sending people here who then illegally used machine guns. No idea if that will fly.
It might have been a Hunter deal gone awry and they pointed their guns at him.
Perhaps Joe said Hunter is the smartest person he knows because Hunter managed to survive a failed cocaine purchase with cartel machine guns pointed at him and Joe thought that was awesome.
Bombing a foreign country's capital and arresting its president are plainly acts of war that received no authorization from Congress.
What does the Constitution say about bombing a foreign capital and arresting a guy claiming to be president? The Founders needed better foresight, quite frankly.
Things not expressly forbidden are allowed.
Reason has completely missed the fact that Maduro was not the recognized ruler. By the US. By the EU.
Reason seems to be advocating for stealing elections.
Well, the government said Maduro won cleanly and legitimately and Reason could not be more supportive of abiding by what the state says if it is said by a Leftist government.
They've been openly endorsing that for 6 years now and excusing it, or the attempt since 2000.
When are we getting the rest of the Epstein files, you know, the ones that were legally required to be released in December?
The DOJ is still checking bathrooms and garages to find the files.
You do realize they’re being released as the names of victims and minors are being redacted, right, Strawcasmic?
He should. He posted the law that had that requirement. But he didnt read it.
Trump signed the law ya retard. Shouldn't have signed if he didn't have the time.
Then perhaps you should actually read the law, Sarc, instead of the labels of Colt 45.
Remember when you posted the law that blatantly stated they would redact victims information as you screamed about delays due to redacting victim information?
Youre a retard sarc.
He’s Walz +11 retarded.
The law says they can redact names of victims. It doesn't say they can ignore the deadline using that as an excuse moron.
...Trump seemed to say that the U.S. was at the beginning of a comprehensive regime-change mission that would require heavy American involvement.
Clearly. The United States wasn't going to invest literally dozens of minutes in the operation just to have things slip back into commieland.
Regime change brought to you by Dominos.
We’ll remove your asshole leader in 90 minutes or less, guaranteed. Otherwise, your next regime change is free.
You guys are at least a decade late.
The Chair Force had them beat by a few decades:
https://www.nps.gov/mimi/index.htm
Excellent museum btw, worth the trip to South Dakota
I think you mean Donnie-mos haw haw haw…
Where do I sign up to make memes?
"Will's gay speech in Stranger Things lasted longer than the operation to remove Maduro from power in Venezuela"
6:51 vs 6:34
https://x.com/TheMagaHulk/status/2007544224150122877
We're still going to see another two or three years of this as most scripts for today's shows were written in 2020 to 2023.
At the same time, he's said that if Rodríguez doesn't comply with U.S. demands, "she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro."
No doubt Trump planned to pay her 70 cents for every dollar Maduro was getting, but making her pay more seems like the patriarchy run amok.
He is going to take the tampons out of government bathrooms.
LOL Nice one.
Rodríguez herself denounced U.S. intervention immediately after being sworn in and insisted Maduro was still the rightful president of Venezuela.
Calm down, honey.
This is why you can’t have chicks in charge.
Now I'm confused.
And you're welcome for the set up.
Its her turn!
Democrats should be ecstatic that a woman became president.
Democrats only like women on their team.
Good news! She is also a socialist. The current president.
One hopes for a day when America's foreign policy isn't a choice between using the military to remake the world in our image or being a transactional bully. That day is not today.
I am reflexively angered by both the people championing the endeavor and the people decrying it. I don't know where I stand, other than hoping Venezuela recovers from their foray into the commie abyss.
I don't know where I stand, other than hoping Venezuela recovers from their foray into the commie abyss.
You anti-status quo motherfucker.
I guess before anything else I am anti-commie. I don't like the US policing everything, and I'm sure we'll find a way to fuck this opportunity up, but I, like most of you, enjoy watching commie a-holes get what's coming. These two ass aches destroyed a whole generation of Venezuelans, and now the country has hope.
If I have to choose something besides non-intervention; 6 minute operations consisting of heads of state "cutting the head off the snake" by putting each other in jail with as few boots on the ground as possible is about as close to second place as I can imagine.
If the WOT had generally consisted of such, generally abiding "I don’t think our troops ought to be used for what’s called nation building," in many, many ways we'd be in a very different place now.
I don't oppose war for the righting of wrongs. I oppose war for the widespread and wanton destruction and violence it breeds. Otherwise, I struggle to distinguish it from hum drum activity of the surprise attacks on civilian and LEO targets and firebombings by activists-without-membership cards.
Thank you for this.
I agree. It was incredibly unwise and absurdly risky. It put us right back where I didn't want us after finally getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
However, the opposition is just spouting nonsense, ignoring law, ignoring precedent, or actively supporting a brutal dictator. All to get at Trump.
This is basically my position. I'd rather it didn't go down the way it did and they let Venezuelans sort it out, but these hysterics by the Democrats about it being illegal and whatnot just simply aren't true.
The fact that most of the world including the US, and my home, Canada, didn't recognize Maduro as Venezuela's legitimate president after the 2018 election. This means that unlike with Noriega they didn't nab a legitimate head of state. Rather they took down a gang leader who controlled the country.
I'm glad Maduro is gone but I didn't want the US to do it. I guess I wanted to have my cake and eat it too.
I felt the same way about the Iranian nuke program.
Same here. I’d have preferred we didn’t get involved, but it’s probably the least upsetting any military action we’ve taken since taking out some terrorists (not the rest of tgwot bullshit).
And all the disingenuous bs from leftists about it is annoying.
Maybe having a friend who’s Venezuelan who hasn’t seen most of her family since she came here when she was younger has me biased though.
Is Trump uninterested in helping Machado because he thinks she stole his Nobel Peace Prize?
More likely he has seen the dozens of times this has been tried and failed and didn't want to make the same mistake. Leaving people who already control the levers of power in place with a gun to their heads might be more effective in getting things turned around and keeping things stable.
I.e. your company has just been bought and the CEO has changed
He knows Machado would be another failure like that chick in New Zealand.
At least this wake-up and the Ukrainian dilemma have caused domesticated Monroe Doctrine caudillos to contemplate the wisdom of scrapping Non-Proliferation and drawing up a Second Amendment instead. Ask yourself how badly you would miss "both sides" of the District of Columbia if a sudden flash of retaliatory regime-change were to occur... Would the Constitution itself be any worse off with a new Capital in Colorado Springs or Chicago?
English, Hank.
Mixed response here. Sure we've got a bad guy removed from power and maybe Venezuela has a chance to turn itself around, and many of the people there seem pretty happy about Maduro being gone.
OTOH, seems highly likely to have been an unlawful action on the administrations part. And we just kicked the "moral high ground" to the curb vis-a-vis invading another country.
Feels like a well-intentioned own-goal that will come back to bite later.
There was a bounty for his arrest.
I wonder if trump gets to pocket the money.
“Biden Era Reward Money for Maduro’s Capture Going to Fund Trump Presidential Library”
I wonder if any insiders in the Venezuelan military are collecting it.
And we just kicked the "moral high ground" to the curb vis-a-vis invading another country.
Again, after 2020, MAID, diverse rape gangs, and USAID-sponsored, gender affirming operas, the moral high ground looks like a flaming, shit-filled cistern.
I meant specifically vis-a-vis direct military action in another country. Putin and Xi can point to this episode to justify future actions in Ukraine and Taiwan, for example.
Bet they can’t get it done in less than 6-1/2 minutes.
What are they going to do poison Navalny and annex Hong Kong *again*?
Could be worse, Trump could've said that he would end NS1 and 2 and then, when it happened with his full knowledge, he could've blamed Russia and laundered money through the Urkaine.
Big complaint I'm seeing is that Trump did not somehow install Machado as president. Of course if he had they'd be screaming about regime change. It's worth noting that this is a departure from the historical foreign policy of the neocons with CIA spooks running color revolutions. Best hope at this point is that elections can be scheduled under the rubric of Venezuelan law and the Venezuelans can form a government.
Its the usual caterwauling. Trump was wrong, he is more wrong for not doing more.
The Wall Street Journal has a piece on how Trump was won over to ousting Maduro.
Black Gold. Texas Tea.
Oils well that ends well.
One of my favorite cartoons this morning is p Diddy in the cell with Maduro saying he was arrested over oil too.
They said Bush invaded Iraq for oil but that was completely wrong.
Bush Jr was pissed Hussein tried to assassinate his daddy. The US arms were aging and needed decommissioning for extremely large amounts of money and then replenishing arms would double that amount.
Easier to drop the bombs and say hey we need to replenish them than waste money decommissioning.
Scenes from NYC:
Mamdani sent a warning to landlords and told New York renters, "If your landlord does not responsibly steward your home, city government will step in."
[Mamdani housing advisor] Cea Weaver wrote on X, "Private property including and kind of ESPECIALLY homeownership is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as 'wealth building public policy."
City Councilwoman Vickie Paladino was not impressed:
"What he means is that pretty much every tenant complaint will move rapidly into property seizure. Look for DSA activists to begin agitating tenants to file frivolous complaints just to instigate seizures," Paladino wrote on X.
"This is straight up tyranny. Best be prepared for what comes next, because it will get ugly fast.If you’re a small landlord that rents an apartment in your own home I strongly suggest you notify your tenants that you will no longer be renting, because Mamdani WILL take your home," she added. "And renters — get ready for rents to SKYROCKET to mitigate these risks to the landlords to choose to remain in the market."
It will be paradise when everyone lives in government housing.
A cardboard box for everyone, just like Sarc’s.
I expect a few landlords who will eventually give up all hope - will just burn down their own buildings with the tenants still in them.
Ohhh, that won’t help Mamdani’s carbon score.
It makes it go up a bunch at first and then eventually over the long haul it makes the score better.
That chick looks like a psychotic retard
So truth in advertising.
Is Trump uninterested in helping Machado because he thinks she stole his Nobel Peace Prize?
And then he had Russian prostitutes pee on her picture.
Another scene from NYC:
Under Gov Hochul's orders, NYC, including One World Trade Center (Freedom Tower), to be lit in green to celebrate "the heritage and culture of Muslim Americans"
I guess she forgot that some people did some things.
In related news, Auschwitz to be lit up in red lights to celebrate the heritage and culture of Nazi germany.
Are they going to borrow Joe's red lights?
No. He had to return them to Spectre.
The current Polish government is not that interested in surrender as Hochul.
It's been almost 25 years since the unpleasantness. You get used to it.
It was mostly New Yorkers who were killed, so nobody really cares.
Like rape, or getting fired from a government job, you get over it and you're fine.
As long as it's for the heritage and culture and not an explicit endorsement of all the people who adhere to one specific religion so as not to be construed as establishing any sort of state or national religion, that's what's important.
Has a war started? The plurality of the Venezuelan people aren't mad.
War’s over, man. Trump nabbed the big one.
He's in the Find Out stage...
That seems to be the case with former Tea Party Patriot Joe Walsh. Once upon a time, Walsh declared that he would carry a musket in the streets for Donald Trump. But TDS took hold of him, too, like an anaconda takes hold of a small, furry animal.
Walsh didn't just become a Democrat; he endorsed the worst of the worst in the party, like Communist Zohran Mandani. But yesterday, on New Year's Day, Walsh found out exactly who he had become as he listened to the New York Mayor's collectivist inauguration speech.
[Regarding Mamdami's speech including "We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism"]
https://x.com/WalshFreedom/status/2006876537576882663
No. This is a country founded upon rugged individualism/individual freedom. NOTHING should or will replace individualism. Not here. No MAGA authoritarianism in America, and no leftist collectivism in America. Yes, all of us should help those less fortunate, but hell no to this.
Too late, dude.
Oh, I don't have what it takes to play Congressman. I mean, I'm no Joe Walsh in the brains department.
"We will replace the *reality* of rugged individualism with the *fantasy* of collectivism"
Fixed.
Every time, every place.
Is Trump uninterested in helping Machado because he thinks she stole his Nobel Peace Prize?
How is it imagined that she did that?
Reason likes its imperialism to be constitutional.
Big words, still no reparations.
Reddit currently in shambles about why the Venezuelans cheering for this aren't listening to the white socialists about how terrible of a thing it is. Entertainment at its best
The Filipinos cheered the US expulsion of Spain, then the Americans butchered the Filipinos.
Well, not all of them.
Marc Cuban fails math.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/mark-cuban-says-we-could-pay-off-the-national-debt-if-insurers-were-fined-100-every-time-they-over-billed-or-denied-care/ar-AA1TtfxO
A day that ends in ‘y’.
He *could* be proposing hundreds of billions of false claims and then fining them when they get denied.
You'd have to hear him out to determine whether he's just stupid or dishonest.
Both? Look at Turd or MG.
$38.5T debt, at $100 per infraction requires 385 billion such infractions, or more than 1110 infractions per person in the US. I have no data on the number of insurance transactions per individual occur, but that number seems like at least multiple years worth, maybe even a lifetime supply, and since the insurance companies do not reject or deny every claim, obviously not every transaction would be finable. Meanwhile the debt grows by about $1.5T each year.
Total healthcare spending is about $3.7T in the US.
Cuban's suggestion might be vaguely supported by an asymptotic function that could possible reach the debt level in some distant future. But it sounds good to the sort of people Cuban is trying to impress.
P.S. fuck all, cut spending!
Difficulty... ACA directly subsidizes these insurance companies. Democrats are fighting to continue subsidizing them even more. So ultimately the fines would come from taxpayers to pay off the debt making net gains zero.
Less than zero when you factor in the skimming.
Just write the UK off completely at this point...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/taxpayers-fund-festival-that-won-t-let-white-people-run-it/ar-AA1TvWND
The annual “Decolonise Fest” music event for “punx of colour” aims to undo the harms of colonialism and “dismantle white supremacy” in the punk music scene.
Grant funding from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) has propped up Decolonise Fest, which informs prospective supporters that “white people cannot join the organising group” that leads it.
Skin colour is the most important thing.
they really, really don't foresee the backlash they are fomenting.
They wanted to fight racism but didn't see any racists so they decided to make some.
Decolonise Fest, because it's not racism if they are white.
Wow. Talk about cultural appropriation. Sid vicious is spinning in his grave, both middle fingers extended.
Congressional Democrats criticize the Maduro raid as illegal and unjustified.
Forever the 80/20 party.
Do we have 10 federal judges demanding Maduro be returned yet?
Boasberg on line 2.
The logo on the goon in the black jacket, the one holding on to the dick-tator... Isn't that Tricky Dick Nixon's DEA? Pop Quiz: in what Latin-American country was VP Richard Nixon's motorcade pelted with brickbats?
To advance to the next square if you answered correctly: What did Ike say when he learned Nixon survived?
"Hello, Harry? It didn't work, dammit! I'm sorry as a sunuvabeach the party didn't take you up on your offer."
Europe is monitoring the situation.
They've made themselves irrelevant.
Not really. Who would rubber-stamp totalitarian GOP prohibition laws if it weren't for the spineless Youropeens at the Hague, League iv Nations and Yew Enn?
It’s the 2020s, not the 1920s, Hank.
Maduro's constant dancing became the last straw for Trump, he pressed the button...
Trump could not brook such an enterprise.
Narcoterrorism - The term "Narcoterrorism" was coined and first used in 1983 by former Peruvian President Fernando Belaúnde Terry to describe attacks by drug traffickers against his country's anti-drug forces, though the concept of drug-funded terror existed earlier, notably with Pablo Escobar's campaigns.
Originator: Fernando Belaúnde Terry (Peru).
Year: 1983.
Context: To describe violence from drug cartels targeting police in Peru.
So, how does this relate to us again ? What of Maduro's forces were attacking our anti-drug enforcement agents ?
Is the Cartel of the Suns mostly peaceful?
It would, but isn't it just an idea?
I haven’t seen any membership cards.
It's the new "terrorism". A buzzword that activates a bunch of brainless bots.
You’d know about a buzz, Sarc.
Senator Mark Kelly is in deep military shit.
https://x.com/secwar/status/2008189258528665898?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Turns out, there are penalties for sedition.
He'll adopt the "But Trump!!!" defense.
It's always okay when it's orangemanbad.
“Captain Kelly’s Pension” to the tune of "Captain Kelly's Kitchen" (acknowledgements to ChatGPT)
Oh Captain Kelly wore the braid and strutted on the deck,
With polished boots and polished lies and medals round his neck.
He dined with lords and mandarins and drank the Navy dry,
And swore the fleet would back him when the day came to defy.
With me toora loora la, me toora loora laddie,
Me toora loora la and me toora loora laddie
He never scrubbed a single deck nor froze a midnight watch,
But spoke of “saving nations” while the rum was top-notch.
He called the ministers “fools” and the admirals “too tame,”
And wondered why the junior ranks looked nervous when he came.
With me toora loora la, me toora loora laddie,
Me toora loora la and me toora loora laddie
“Oh surely rank must count for something,” Kelly loudly said,
“I’ve served the Crown since before half these clerks were bred.”
But sedition sounds the same, it seems, from captain or from crew,
And courts don’t care how shiny is the man who’s breaking through.
With me toora loora la, me toora loora laddie,
Me toora loora la and me toora loora laddie
Now Kelly tells the tale himself, with outrage thick and loud,
How lesser men have ruined him, ungrateful, blind, and cowed.
He says, “It was just talk, my lads, just theories over gin,”
But treason sounds like treason when the wrong ears listen in.
With me toora loora la, me toora loora laddie,
Me toora loora la and me toora loora laddie
Looks like chrome dome FAFO. Maybe he should’ve aborted that smart plan to make the video prior to launch.
Turns out the government is retaliating against free speech (literally stating the law). Which I support because as a libertarian, nobody should say anything that the President doesn't like.
Sedition is not free speech. Look up the difference, Strawcasmic.
You wouldn't know a libertarian if he was a handsome clean-cut guy who looks like a cop.
Poor stupid sarcbot.
"The Trump administration clearly seems to have violated the Constitution."
What Constitution? The one that every President, every Congress and every Supreme Court in America has been systematically and progressively dismantling, bypassing, re-interpreting and ignoring ever since it was ratified? No, I'm not saying "it's okay because everyone is doing it" - I'm saying that there is not much of the Constitution that I swore to uphold and defend left any more. It should suprise no one that a "strong-man" dictator feels unrestrained by the document at this point. There is certainly no moral high ground from which any other official now in office could hold him accountable now.
We also have the problem where probably 300 sitting members of Congress are all guilty of some form of fraud and should be in prison.
And openly leak plans.
Was amused seeing Schumer scream what he was told in a SCIF while stating he wasn't told this in a SCIF. Revealing classified conversations.
Yep, I bet his arrest and conviction made him regret his actions, right?
Trump should have briefed them, individually, each with a different, unique plan. And when those unique details leaked, arrest and hang the tratiors.
They would have hid behind the speech and debate clause.
I sadly agree. Constantly repeating that this act is unconstitutional may be technically correct but with centuries of precedent indicating otherwise it's an arcane argument at this point. And not particularly relevant. If there is a controlling legal authority on the matter it can only be the Congress and despite multiple opportunities the best they've come up with is angry press conferences.
"What Constitution?"
The one that SPECTRE has been systematically dismantling since "From Russia With Love"? Oh noes! Can we ever stop SPECTRE while our 80 percent corrupt government gives them aid and comfort? Must we resort to "A License to Kill"???
I do wonder if part of your form of libertarian ideology requires ignorance of the constitution as well as history. There were early foundational questions regarding the balance between the executive and legislative in regards to military action. It turns out not every military action requires calling in congress to ask for permission. There was generally a 30-60 day buffer set as the balance. Congress was for prolonged wars, not an audit on every action taken requiring asking first.
But yes, keep screaming constitution despite not understanding it.
First of all, Jesse, I did not scream "constitution" in this context, the author of the article did. Second, I don't necessarily agree that a quick in-and-out raid to arrest a foreign national in a foreign country is a declaration of war. And finally, I would test my knowledge and understanding of the Constitution AS IT WAS WRITTEN against yours any time! What I was complaining about is that there is no longer ANY balance of military power between the legislative and executive since Congress abdicated that responsibility - both Democrats and Republicans, not to mention Whigs - long ago.
Lol. Seeing your posts here in regards to the constitution it wouldn't be even a fair fight. Doubt you've ever even read supplemental docs including the federalist papers.
Bringing in congress in your retort again shows yoi dont understand the temporal balance they discussed between the executive and legislative at the founding.
Many actions occurred militarily by solely the executive early on this country. The legislature didnt scream bloody murder. They understood the legislative branch was slow to react and even meet, so there was a limited deference to the executive for various actions. Something you seem to still be ignoring.
This action doesnt even require the invocation of the AUMF or any together legislative act due to the criminal issues involved, see Noriega. The courts have already discussed an extremely similar action. And the prior action was fucking 24k troops lol.
This is why I call out your ignorance.
...And therefore I fully support the President totally ignoring the Constitution and ruling as a dictator. Because bof sidez.
JS;d...oh. Nevermind.
The left and their love of dictators.
https://x.com/jchimirie66677/status/2008150705610113101?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
SPECTRE has clearly won in the UK.
Although I agree with the conclusion, there is more to it than that. Europeans have been nursing a guilt complex over their imperial past far beyond that required by time and morals. It is the same guilt that some Americans feel about slavery and abuse of women and the first nations people here. For the record, I do not accept personal responsibility for the abuses by my fifth to tenth great-grandparents! We of the current generation owe it to everyone to insist upon equality before the law, equal rights and even equal "opportunities" by suppressing official discrimination. We owe the fifth to tenth great-grandchildren of slaves and native Americans nothing else. More than that, I find it highly offensive to assume that anyone living in America today cannot "make it" on their own without special privileges and monetary assistance from the government.
Kind of a pet peeve of mine: "First nations" is a stupid term for indigenous American tribes as it assumes that everything was static before Europeans arrived and there weren't loads of wars, conquests, slavery, etc. among the natives. They aren't first nations, but rather second-to-last nations.
And a Kennewick Man was not of Asian DNA according to an article some time back, which opens the question of who displaced whom.
Which really just reenforces the point that none of this should be relevant to how we conduct ourselves today. We can never correct the injustices of the distant past and to try is just insane and will cause more harm to people who are actually alive now.
Just finished Sowells "Conflict of Visions", highly recommended.
He compares those who assume we are smart enough to correct those with those who understand that human knowledge has limitations.
And hints at the damage resulting of the claims of the first, but never quite bring himself to mention that it ALWAYS ends in dictatorship, mass murder and starvation.
Leftism is, at it's core, authoritarian oppression. There is no other way to impose leftism.
"What Constitution?"
The one that SPECTRE has been systematically dismantling since "From Russia With Love"? Oh noes! Can we ever stop SPECTRE while our 80 percent corrupt government gives them aid and comfort? Must we resort to "A License to Kill"???
"Two people close to the WH said“
Well I’m convinced! Great job britches.
It was two laid off fed workers panhandling at the WH gates. So pretty close to the WH.
How close we are left to wonder. Within a half mile radius?
Breaking News
Tim Walz is dropping out of the governors race. Wants to spend all of his energy on his tampon business.
The Walz closed in?
He was warned not to hang all those tampon dispensers on the boyz room walz. Especially the load bearing walz.
Is he still retarded?
He figured running for office from a jail cell was not a good idea.
Minnesota's First Lady has to burn her own tires now.
He definitely is if he thinks he should run for president (not sure if that's what's happening).
I’m looking forward to his farewell speech…delivered while wearing a hijab.
Didn't he get one of those ten year blanket pardons from Biden?
"...The U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war..."
Which seems to matter only if Trump is involved. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
If you are a media darling you can intervene in unlimited countries, bomb the shit out of them, and even terminate US citizens extra-judicially, and the media will just focus on how dreamy you are.
Good thing we aren't at war then.
Trump failed to invoke the magic incantation, "GENOCIDE!" in his excuse for intervention. Whenever the Democrats have chanted that mystical word, it ALWAYS justifies whatever they want to do!
Why is that required for this action? Please inform is magical constitutional scholar.
If he had uttered the word "genocide" to justify his raid the Dems would have been left spluttering in incoherence! That's why!
*Arguing against the president's power to bomb other countries without any congressional input might feel quaint, given how often they've done it in the past few decades without consequence.*
And yet... This is called "precedent", and it's quite powerful. Despite what Sarc says, "they did it first" carries a lot of weight, both politically and legally. Pretty hard for Congress to take issue with Trump overusing executive power to depose an illegitimate dictator when they allowed Emperor Barry to murder American citizens abroad with zero authorization.
I agree with the philosophical argument here, but the facts are what they are. We no longer have a functioning legislature.
"Pretty hard for Congress to take issue with Trump overusing executive power to depose an illegitimate dictator when they allowed Emperor Barry to murder American citizens abroad with zero authorization."
Ya, im not for another boondoggle or entanglement and dont want another war, but really hard for them to make this argument in earnest after 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Obama doing significantly worse things in just about every way shape and form.
Indeed.
and frankly, what they did is NOT "another war". It's a unique action, totally wild, off the charts. A new tactic. Just go in and kidnap the president! you don't need a war for that when you can outclass them so badly with your special forces.
Something very strange going on here and we're not getting the whole story but it's not "another war". Yet.
Yeah this not a war or an occupation or a regime change. Yet at least. This was a very carefully crafted operation and none of the old definitions really work.
"...Pretty hard for Congress to take issue with Trump overusing executive power to depose an illegitimate dictator when they allowed Emperor Barry to murder American citizens abroad with zero authorization..."
They'll use the "But Trump!!!" argument.
"...A small group of protestors organized by the far-left Party of Socialism and Liberation (PSL) gathered outside the White House to protest Maduro's ouster..."
The TDS-addled shits Sullum, Boehm and Tuccille were in attendance, I'm sure.
The illegality of the Maduro raid
Viet Nam, Panama, Afghanistan and Iraq would like to enter the chat.
It's been like this for a while. Men girt with swords do whatever the fuck they want while others are quoting laws to them.
I'm always impressed by their ability to print topical signs for every occasion.
umm...this is not an impressive feat.
Just pretend they have a Soros kind of unlimited funding and access to a free market.
Soros's money was only unlimited because he was using America's money via USAID instead of his own.
They're the Hallmark™ of political protest signage.
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" including what legal power President Donald Trump had to unilaterally depose him"
According to you, two paragraphs earlier, Trump arrested an indicted criminal with a price on his head from the Biden administration.
So which is it? An arrested drug dealer, or a deposition?
If a deposition, why are all of our troops home safe?
If an arrest, why the fuss and bother?
If TDS, never mind.
It was an act of war and a kidnapping of a foreign head of state.
Cool story, bro.
That sounds pretty weak, even for you, Molly!
"It was an act of war and a kidnapping of a foreign head of state." according to a random 混蛋.
you too can declare yourself ruler of Venezuela!
"and a kidnapping of a foreign head of state".
Sorry, Tony, but after the 2018 election the only countries that recognized Maduro as the legitimate head of state were Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, Cuba, Nicaragua and Syria.
35 said he wasn't, including all the EU, 85% of Latin America, the UK, Canada, Australia and NZ.
You're just pissed because your totalitarian Marxist drug-running thug isn't there to sign sweetheart deals with China anymore.
I would cite a technicality here: Maduro has not been deposed, he has been arrested and confined. Only the Venezuelan people can remove him from office, and only their own Constitution can define "what happens next." If Trump were to be arrested and confined tomorrow after being indicted for a crime, he would still be President of the United States until Congress votes to impeach him and remove him from office for "high crimes and misdemeanors."
That is an interesting theory. I say we get experimental verification by sending Trump to prison in Iran.
Such principles you have
Such brains the 混蛋 doesn't have.
"I would cite a technicality here: Maduro has not been deposed"
Tony's right. You can't depose a narcotraficante who wasn't even recognized as head of state by any of the countries that matter.
Not even the US, or his lovely Joe Biden who put the bounty on Maduro's head in the first place.
What happened here was just like when Barry took down Bin Laden, or when El Chapo was shipped to the US, right Tony?
"Newsom decrys court ruling overturning California open-carry ban"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/newsom-decrys-court-ruling-overturning-california-open-carry-ban/ar-AA1Tvpza?ocid=BingNewsSerp
If greaseball runs for POTUS, he'll get plenty of chances to be upset.
"divided Ninth Circuit panel"
This tells us all we need to know about the relationship between the United States Judiciary and what's left of the Constitution of the United States of America.
>>Trump himself has largely not bothered to offer any legal justification for ousting Maduro.
only a federal indictment.
Lefty shits in DC or SF (and a Beijing 混蛋) can whine about this, but the only ones who matter are the Venezuelans, and it seems hard to find a handle on how THEY feel about it.
Probably the same way the people of the US would feel if China attacked, invaded, and kidnapped Trump; relived but still pissed off about the egregious act of war.
^ More bullshit slinging by the Chi Com 混蛋. And no information at all.
Par for the course from a brain-dead piece of shit.
Except Trump is head of state. Maduro wasn't.
I'm not sure how much I like the idea that a federal indictment is all that's needed to justify sending the military into another country to snatch someone up out of bed and take them to prison in the US. But I'll grant that it is a legal argument to justify it.
all federally charged criminals are aces long as they can find a bed in a foreign nation.
That's usually how it works if we don't have an effective extradition agreement with the foreign nation.
... or we can nab them. "how it works" includes who in Venezuela will attempt to prosecute the United States and based on what law? ... if it's nobody then nabbing them is how it works
>>The U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war.
ya but it gives the Executive power to *make* war
Wow. The Constitution is not that long and MAGAs still can't get it right.
where are Congress' tanks and bullets?
>>Europe is monitoring the situation.
please point your readers to where the International Law is kept.
It's a place the sun never shines - - - - - - - - - -
it's at Bill's house! and Fred's house!
What the hell you doin' with my International Law in your house, Fred?!
Pretty sure it was Kissinger who, when asked how 'Europe' felt about some action or other, asked in response: "What phone number do I use to call 'Europe' ".
Leave it to you to use Killinger as a source for inspiration.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Even more giveaways, Shrike. You just can’t help your tics now, can you.
For starters, the UN Charter and other binding international treaties that have been ratified by Congress.
Cite(s) missing shitforbrains. Arm-waving in no way approximates citation, and even a brain-dead piece of shit like you should know that.
even if granted to you no citation from either will help.
His ouster nevertheless raises a number of serious questions
No it doesn't. It raises a number of waste-of-time editorials by bobble heads, the chattering class, and those who watch them to decide what to think. But I have to yet to see any serious questions that lead to answers that might remotely be consequential.
Enquiring minds want to know: "Will Congress reassert it's Constitutional authority? Will the Supreme Court start to support and defend the Constitution? Will anyone restore the original intent of checks and balances in the United States? To find out the answers to these and other fascinating questions, tune in next time - same Bat-time ... same Bat-channel ..."
VENEZUELA AND ARGENTINA FIRST!!>/b>
Cool story, Shrike, but why don’t you explain for the commentariat how your original SPB account was permanently banned.
In other news that Reason is not mentioning ... are we at War with Iran or something ?
^ In other bullshit from a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit...
I don't listen to grey boxes.
Did Sarcasmic pay for an additional nick?
Can you please add the citations proving there is a war between the USA and Venezuela?
"If Vance were correct, all any president would need to do to start a war is have his Justice Department file charges against a foreign leader."
No one started a war, why are you saying this?
Vietnam was not a war either ... we all know how that went.
Did you have a point, lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit?
I don't listen to grey boxes.
Clearly, since you speak as though you know something, you know this is nothing like Vietnam?
I'm not sure it's an unreasonable statement, even though it hasn't started a war in this case. If, for example, we did the same (or tried to) with Putin or Xi, I'm pretty sure that would start a war.
Context is everything.
"Over the weekend, Reason's Eric Boehm wrote a more comprehensive explanation of why the Trump administration's ouster of Maduo was illegal, which everyone should read."
We did and he is wrong.
And stupid. He makes a whole bunch of assumptions based on a bunch of inaccuracies at best and nothing at worst.
The nice thing about being a professional orangemanbad writer, is you don't have to worry about being factual. In fact your bosses would prefer it if you weren't.
"Socialism and Liberation (PSL) gathered outside the White House to protest Maduro's ouster"
Why are they here? Why weren't they in their socialist-utopia Venezuela saving their dear-leader?
Why does everyone keep saying Maduro was "captured" as if he were a prisoner of war or something? He was the subject of an extraterritorial abduction.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3b710Jbz9b8
Are we the baddies ?
You are the fullofshity. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.
https://youtu.be/Q0Hmc7eeXjw?t=28
Probably because he was captured. Read a dictionary. Sometimes more than one word applies to a particular event. The English language is rich with words of similar meaning.
Does "arrested" have the same meaning as "captured"?
Same meaning, no. But arrest often involves capture of the arrestee.
"Why does everyone keep saying Maduro was "captured" as if he were a prisoner of war or something? He was the subject of an extraterritorial abduction."
U can inglish reel gud.
>If Vance were correct, all any president would need to do to start a war is have his Justice Department file charges against a foreign leader. That's hardly compatible with Congress controlling the power to initiate hostilities.
What if Trump declared it a 'kinetic military action' with 'no boots on the ground' and that all 'males between the ages of 15 and 52' were combatants?
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There's more than one reason that the Constitution gave Congress sole authority to declare war:
1) It keeps at least the appearance of a tether on the president (most Americans get this one, at least when the other tribe occupies the Whitehouse)
2) It forces Congress to "buy in" (as the article describes) and accept a share of responsibility for whatever happens as a result.
Neither an irresponsible Congress nor an untethered president is good for the Republic, so we should tell Trump to do better next time (as if...). Sadly, presidents have been going on safari at least since TR peeled Panama off of Columbia and Wilson invaded Mexico (occupying Veracruz for half of 1914), so I'm not holding my breath.
>>so we should tell Trump to do better next time
one vote for he's killing it now.
The author like all libertarians belief that the Constitution requires any offensive kinetic action against a foreign state including ones targeted at heads of state wo/Congress declaring war on the state are unconstitutional. The problem with that is it isn't supported by historical traditions which SCOTUS with John Roberts as the chief justice has established as after the Constitution's text is determinant of a law or regulation being constitutional. In the case of kinetic action against foreign states there are 2 cases in the 20 years of the US. Thomas Jefferson sent in 1801-1805 the US Navy to North West Africa, Barbary Coast to attach and subdue the Barbary pirates & free US merchant ship crews held hostage in Tripoli, Morocco & Algeria. Then James Madison in 1815 sent the Navy to finish the job. In both cases Congress didn't declare war. They only authorized use of force.
The act is probably and if not should be illegal, however this is not unique to Trump as many may pretend. Trump is just the latest president who have violated the spirit of the constitution, preceded by every other president also violating the spirit of the constitution during my lifetime.
Question: If the jury finds Maduro not guilty, then what happens?
"His ouster nevertheless raises a number of serious questions"
among others, why the press keeps referring to it as an "ouster". he was not "ousted", he was kidnapped. if he returned to Venezuela right now, he'd take the presidency back. no one "ousted" him. the US government kidnapped him, with cover by a large and violent military operation. you even note that the VP has been sworn in as an "interim" leader. he was not removed from office, only from his residence and the country.