Did Marco Rubio Lie to Congress About Venezuela?
His explanation for why the Trump administration attacked Venezuela without congressional authorization does not stand up to scrutiny.
As the Senate considered a resolution that would have blocked the Trump administration from using military force against Venezuela, Secretary of State Marco Rubio reportedly gave a classified briefing to key members of Congress.
In that November briefing, Rubio "indicated that the administration is not currently preparing to target Venezuela directly and didn't have a proper legal argument for doing so," The Washington Post reported at the time. Similarly, CNN reported that administration officials told lawmakers that "the US is not currently planning to launch strikes inside Venezuela and doesn't have a legal justification that would support attacks against any land targets," and that the legal justification offered for strikes against suspected drug boats traveling near Venezuela "does not extend to land targets."
In the early hours of Saturday morning, however, American forces did attack a land target in Venezuela: Fort Tiuna, the military compound where Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro was holed up. According to the BBC, at least four more targets in and around Caracas were hit during the operation.
On Sunday, reporters asked Rubio about the obvious gap between what he (and other officials) told lawmakers in November and what had just unfolded in Caracas.
Rubio told the Post that the administration would need congressional approval only if it "was going to conduct military strikes for military purposes." And this, he insisted, was not a military strike but "a law enforcement operation."
That claim seems to contradict the description offered by President Donald Trump at his press conference on Saturday morning. Trump described Maduro's capture as an "extraordinary military operation" unlike anything since World War II. The administration also trotted out Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and General Dan Caine to describe in detail how U.S. forces had breeched Venezuelan defenses and successfully captured Maduro in an operation that lasted more than two hours and involved more than 200 troops.
Rubio offered another defense to ABC's The Week.
"You can't congressionally notify something like this for two reasons. Number one, it will leak. It's as simple as that. And number two, it's an exigent circumstance. It's an emergent thing. You don't even know if you're going to be able to do it," he said. "It had to be at the right place at the right time with the right weather, and all things like that. So those are very difficult to notify, but the number one reason is operational security."
Both of those excuses fail to hold water, because they misunderstand Congress' role in approving military action.
The Trump administration did not need Congress to sign off on specific operational choices: the time, location, forces involved, and so on. What the Constitution and relevant statutes require is that Congress authorizes the use of the military. That could have been done without jeopardizing any specific mission.
Think about Iraq. Congress approved the use of military force in October 2002. Congress did not need to approve the operational details of the invasion in March 2023. That's the purview of the executive branch, but only after getting permission from Congress.
In this case, if Congress had approved the use of military force against Venezuela, then the Trump administration could still have planned Saturday's operation with all the necessary secrecy. What would have leaked? The idea that America was about to invade Venezuela? Yes, but that's been obvious for months now. A congressional vote would hardly have made it any more obvious, but it would have made the whole thing more legitimate.
Now Rubio is facing accusations that he lied to members of Congress during the November hearing.
"Secretaries Rubio and Hegseth looked every Senator in the eye a few weeks ago and said this wasn't about regime change. I didn't trust them then and we see now that they blatantly lied to Congress,'" Sen. Andy Kim (D–N.J.) posted on X. "Trump rejected our Constitutionally required approval process for armed conflict because the Administration knows the American people overwhelmingly reject risks pulling our nation into another war."
"Rubio said that there were not any intentions to invade Venezuela," Rep. Gregory W. Meeks (D–N.Y.) told The Washington Post. "He absolutely lied to Congress."
All that said, the reporting on that November hearing suggests that the administration was deliberately leaving the door ajar to do what happened last weekend. CNN reported at the time that Justice Department was working on "a justification for launching strikes against land targets without needing to ask Congress to authorize military force."
If such a justification exists, now would be a good time for the administration to make it public.
The question of whether Rubio lied to Congress is ultimately a question for Congress to settle. At a minimum, he and the rest of the administration seem to have misled lawmakers in the lead-up to Saturday's operation.
And even if the capture of Maduro is understood as merely "a law enforcement operation," then drawing that distinction should only underline this crucial fact: Constitutionally speaking, Congress must give its approval before the U.S. military can carry out further operations in Venezuela.
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Was his lips moving ? Then yes.
Was they?
Walz +4
Sorry, douchebag troll. The US didn't "attack Venezuela" so Eric The Red's entire headline is misleading. We landed, took a person with an active warrant into custody and left. Game, Set and Match
Rubio should have told them to go fellate Maduro is they are so obsessed with him.
What the fuck do they think Biden's bounty was?
A fugitive was apprehended and brought to the US. C'est la vie. The President of Venezuela was not apprehended.
The U.S. has no legal authority or justification to enforce its laws outside of the United States. Period. There are established methods for international action and unilateral military action is not one of them. The U.S. is a law unto itself and does what it wants, when it wants, regardless of the rule of law that it keeps talking about.
Tell that to President Obama who invaded a sovereign country without its consent to apprehend a foreign fugitive - and everyone in the US cheered. Or Israel dragging Eichmann out of Argentina.
You mean... they did it then, that makes it ok now? Hmm where have I heard that before..
I mean - did you complain about it then, or is this a problem just because it was done by Trump?
1. Are you from Maine?
2. Have you heard of a Cuban Sandwich?
These clues may lead you to the proper conclusion on just where you have heard this sentiment before. Chances are good there is someone out there that you are smarter than too!
It’s not tough to be smarter than Sarcasmic or Molly Godiva. Just have a double digit IQ and you’re there.
How do you motherfuckers STILL not get how politics works?
Jesus Christ.
Precedent is precedent, is it not?
Or tell that to the EU asserting authority to enforce all sorts of laws internationally. Or tell that to any of the many countries trying to indict Netanyahu. WellRedMan may have the moral high ground to claim that individual countries should have no legal authority to enforce their laws outside their own countries but he is wildly wrong to claim that that's the current state of affairs or that the US is the only country to do so.
We didn't force Venezuela to adapt the second amendment, we extracted an "insurrectionist" and an illegal president to ordered narcoterrorism on the United States.
We didn't ask Pakistan for permission to take out Bin Laden. For all intents and purposes, there's no difference between that and the Maduro extraction.
The U.S. is a law unto itself and does what it wants, when it wants, regardless of the rule of law that it keeps talking about.
So just like any country/government that has the capacity to do so.
There is no 'legal authority' in international affairs.
You are like the sovereign citizens. They think magic words on paper and magic incantations will free them from law.
You think magic words on paper and magic incantation will bind others to your law.
But without a gun to back it up there is no law.
This is why Putin was able to invade Ukraine. People like you cry that it is 'illegal under international law!!!' - and then that's all you do. But there is no law. There is only action. Your action is to whine about it. Trump's action was to shoot someone.
You were ignored, he is not.
"International law" is, literally, whatever we are willing to waste the time to enforce. China ignores it and nobody else can do a damned thing.
We are here, Vietnam, Iraq, Nicaragua Afghanistan, Syria… et al
Chinese agents are operating in the US openly, and supported by US idiots.
You want to go to a no aggression policy externally.
It does not start with zero aggression. That is surrender, and your children subjects of totalitarian world government.
Is reason just asking the questions MS Now is asking?
You'd be better spent actually reading up on similar cases like Noriega or reading legal analysts like Turley.
>>And even if the capture of Maduro is understood as merely "a law enforcement operation," then drawing that distinction should only underline this crucial fact: Constitutionally speaking, Congress must give its approval before the U.S. military can carry out further operations in Venezuela.
so part one of this you show you do understand it was law enforcement ... and part two you show you do understand the parameters if T wants war against Venezuela ... what were all the paragraphs before the last one for?
Congress must give its approval before the U.S. military can carry out further operations in Venezuela
Even this is wrong. The Prez must inform Congress within, what, 48 hours I think.
Very simple remedy. Congress votes to halt any and all operations against Venezuela and then holds the President and key cabinet members accountable.
no operation against Venezuela took place.
So Trump was lying about the attack, the video was faked, Marudo is no in US custody, and not one media outlet in the entire world is telling the truth?
MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet.
IT WAS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION!
"...MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet..."
Not even close, 混蛋. You got everyone beat. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I dunno, I think it's fair to say that a military incursion into another country, regardless of the purpose, is an operation against that country. Or at least it's splitting hairs to try to argue about that terminology.
I can see the argument that because he had so obviously and egregiously seized power by not relinquishing the Presidency to an apparently duly elected person, the action wasn’t against Venezuela the country but Maduro the would be Dictator.
I think we can call him an actual dictator (or could until a few days ago). Ultimately it's up to Venezuelans to decide how to take it. I hope the reports of celebrations are indicative of how they feel about it.
That’s fair.
>>Or at least it's splitting hairs to try to argue about that terminology.
mho the terms are relevant
And then Congress can vote to give ponies to all the kids.
But in the real world ... we all know Congress will do nothing except maybe a few Congressional hearings and some strongly worded letters.
Very strongly worded letters. And then we can vote in all the incumbents and they can deliver goodies to those who bought the critters. BTW Congress doesn't give ponies to the kids. The kids get the manure and will be grateful for it.
All in all - a solid year's work for everyone.
The kids will have their turn at the trough soon enough.
No they won't. The debt game (living beyond our means) - like all Ponzi debt - will end in the next 3-5 years if it hasn't already. There is no more kicking the can down the road and no solving the problem anymore.
I'll gladly sit through the Venezuelan incursion hearings right after cut Fauci's lifeless body down from the lamppost.
Hold them accountable?
Like Clinton and Benghazi?
You know, where she 'took full responsibility' - and then nothing else happened?
Once again; Ukraine committed a no-shit act of war against NATO with the prior knowledge of its current leadership. Leadership that enacted martial law, conscripted civilians, and, to this day, has not held elections.
The cries about Maduro are the pot being incredulous that the kettle is so recklessly, incoherently, and violently black. And, that's ignoring the fact that the pot has a four-orders-of-magnitude higher body count.
Can you help us figure out what you are talking about? When did Ukraine attack NATO?
They're the ones who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline, and in case you were wondering, that pipeline was in the territories of Sweden and Denmark, both NATO countries.
It's easy to get lost in the back and forth as to whether Chervinsky (the Colonel alleged to have conducted the operation after Zelensky's initial approval) is a rogue agent being persecuted by a Russian double-agent close to Zelensky or just scapegoat or even CIA patsy but, ultimately, between the CIA, MI6, the BND, the Dutch Secret Service, etc., etc. none of what I said is in any way refuted, let alone retold with a more plausible or evidence-backed narrative.
The overwhelming majority of the current narrative is even that we (The US... Germany... NATO...) had already committed to war with a failed state and regarding a definitive war crime as a war crime would've stopped the tank treads from rolling and the war profiteers from making it rain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Whaddyagonnago?
Compared to that, the black bagging of Maduro was, so far, a straightforward and bloodless/clean-as-a-whistle "kinetic action".
failed state
Failed state... unregulated kleptocracy... proxy puppet regime... whatever.
Why would it? Nothing illegal occurred.
You're one of these impeach orangemandbad because orangemanbad and we don't like him, his policies, his actions, or his tweets even if they are not illegal.
orangemanbad orangemanbad I'm jealous of his hair orangemanbad
JS;d...oh. Nevermind.
Congress should totally do something about this...
... and they will, right after their bedtime story and a nap!
They will right after Dems launch a massive fundraising campaign, screech to the skies and then do nothing much because they want the ability to do the same like in Libya.
Now you are concerned with government officials lying to congress!? I thought they had free speech rights to say whatever they wanted? What changed?
You thought wrong, then. Obstruction of justice and lying under oath are not covered by the Constitution. On the other hand I doubt that he lied under oath to Congress. I also doubt that Congress has the balls to insist on legislative branch prerogatives now or at any time in the last century or two.
What justice? Congress is not a law enforcement arm of the government?
For reference, here is Reason defending law makers 1st amendment right to break laws and, as it turns out, try and obstruct justice when it comes to Maduro.
The Pentagon and the FBI Are Investigating 6 Legislators for Exercising Their First Amendment Rights
These are the typical low-effort, navel gazing posts that Boehm normally puts out there.
What is his evidence that Rubio was lying under oath? That TRUMP of all people said the words "Military Operation" while speaking extemporaneously not under oath over a month later.
This stupid word parsing is the standard schtick for Boehm who would much rather play gotcha with his interpretation of other peoples' words, than write anything useful to the conversation.
I think the month + that elapsed between the events is the more relevant part. It was clearly a military operation, even if the ultimate purpose was law enforcement.
It was a law enforcement action that required military support. It was not an invasion or a war. There are no troops in Venezuela, or at least that's what we're told. There was no regime change, Maduro is gone but his regime remains in power.
I'm not in full support of this action but I have to accept that this will likely be a huge improvement for the Venezuelans. But the Boehm's argument is very weak.
I think I have a similar take (though "law enforcement" in other countries is a tricky subject where it's hard to draw a clear line and military incursions short of invasions or war are still military operations). I hope it turns out well for Venezuelans and we don't get too deeply involved in managing their country. But Trump seems to be keeping the door open for more military activities. Time will tell and all I can do is hope it doesn't turn into a shit show.
He's keeping it open in case, most likely to happen, the VP acting President continues Maduro's enterprise and doesn't change course for Venezuela.
They put out the bounty on the heads of anyone who assisted in the arrest of Maduro.
Hasn't started out well for the interim President.
Where are you getting the information?
Time will tell and all I can do is hope it doesn't turn into a shit show.
It would still have to go reeeally sideways to approach 21st Century norms.
Agreed.
We have clear evidence of people lying to Congress - over the domestic spying - and Congress did nothing.
And Covid, the Russian Collusion Hoax, Hunter's laptop, etc.
"Did Marco Rubio Lie"? Yes.
Cite?
How can you tell if a politician is lying? Are his lips moving?
Yes he slept at some point lying down.
Lied about what, and in what context?
This is typical of you fucking leftists. You feel something negative about a politician you don't like, and you spew unverified and unfounded rhetorical crap based on lies and conjecture, usually spoon-fed to you by some equally leftist dipshit like Rachel Maddow or Whoopie Goldberg because you are literally incapable of logic, coherent thought or reason.
"the number one reason is operational security"
I hate to say it but with all the [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] in Congress that is totally believable.
Where's all those impeachments for [D] Congressmen blatantly violating the 1A?
Where's the impeachment for Proud [Na]tional So[zi]alist Bernie?
Where would be the impeachment for a [D] traitor congressmen who notified Maduro?
The USA'S enemies are IN Congress.
There is no argument that advances of "indicated that the administration is not currently preparing to target Venezuela directly and didn't have a proper legal argument for doing so," as a full-throated lie that doesn't also advance Venezuelan Nationalism, Socialism, and/or Dictatorship as both a full-throated truth and self-justifying defense against any action taken in opposition.
One would think "Not my president" and "No kings" libertarians and leftists would understand the subtlety. One may be giving them the benefit of they doubt by assuming they don't.
Obama the 2nd doesn't need Congress
Not since the [D] written AUMF got passed and unable to be repealed.
It should be ruled UN-Constitutional by SCOTUS but that's never going to happen because it's "JUST Trump" the [D]s want restricted.
Just as it is with 100-years of EO Tariffs and "JUST Trump" can't do that!
"What the Constitution and relevant statutes require is that Congress authorizes the use of the military."
But that would compromise what was essentially a CIA operation. The military was required to extract a person of interest, like the assassination of Bin Laden (not capture, mind you). We would not have been waging war on Pakistan by blowing up a convoy of fighters coming to his aid.
If you think the Venezuelan military barely putting up a fight to protect a presidential fortress - which should take some effort to infiltrate even for the US military - was some sheer luck, I have a bridge to sell you in the Sahara. Lots of lives were saved by covert coordination from inside Venezuela. No way should we jeopardized that by informing the snakes of the democrat party.
Calling it a CIA op does not magically circumvent the constitutional requirement that only Congress can declare war or authorize military force.
the ChiCom 混蛋 seems to think that Trump must follow rules ignored by nearly every POTUS since 1947.
But the fuckface is abysmally stupid, so that's pretty much expected.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
At this point, what difference does it make. - some lady SoS
The scotus recently stated the US military is the regular forces tha execute the laws of the US, the potus was using the regular forces to execute the laws of the US, how is that illegal?
The point is that you will never get an administration official to admit they did something illegal. They may be reckless but they aren't stupid.
In many eyes, an open-ended blanket pardon is an admission of guilt. Especially after asserting that you wouldn't grant the pardon because it would specifically countermand a/the jury's decision.
You have to be exceedingly dim or a partisan hack to believe otherwise.
Did Boehm write another Orangemanbad article? Why, yes. Yes the TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit did.
Ah yes the old "operational security" exception to the construction.
Given a president who makes an open mockery of the rule of law and a covress utterly unwilling to hold them to tasks, in an environment where the idea that only Congress can hold a president responsible, is there anything the supreme Court could do to hold covress to tasks on their responsibility to check the president?
"Given a president who makes an open mockery of the rule of law..."
He was tossed from the D ticket more than a year ago, TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit.
Quit lying and seek help.
BTW, shitforbrains, I got a cite: Student loans.
I see, as a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit, you have yet to support your obvious lie.
Can I suggest you fuck off and die, asswipe? It's what you should do, as anyone with an IQ in the 2 digit range should do.
It sounds like you're not thinking of Hedges v. Obama, when the Court absolutely could've rebuked Congress and reined in the totally-not-autocratic twin administrations of President Pen and Phone and would-be President Auto Pen.
It's possible you could be forgetting Hamdan v. Rumsfeld but that wouldn't be as much of a rebuke of Congress directly and I'm pretty sure that when you say "open mockery of the rule of law" you're referring to the "pen and phone" President who unprecedentedly and relatively single-handedly fucked up immigration law, dronesassinated American citizens on foreign soil, captured US post-secondary education, and socialized American medicine.
I know that precedent does not prove legality, but it can prove hypocrisy.
China (Boxer Rebellion) 1900, Mexico (Pershing Expedition) 1916–1917, Korea 1950–1953, Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Cuba Bay of Pigs 1961, Dominican Republic 1965
Grenada 1983, Panama 1989–1990, Bosnia & Herzegovina 1995–2004, Serbia / Yugoslavia (Kosovo) 1999, Libya 2011, Somalia 2013, Venezuela 2026