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Welfare

The Minnesota Welfare Fraud Story Is Really About a Broken Medicaid Bureaucracy

Federal Medicaid policy creates little incentive for states to stop potential fraudsters. Fixing that should be the priority, not demonizing Somali immigrants.

Eric Boehm | 12.30.2025 1:15 PM

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A sprawling welfare scheme that saw fraudsters steal over $9 billion in Minnesota is a damning indictment of a federal and state bureaucracy that failed at some of its most basic responsibilities to taxpayers.

That fraud is back at the top of the news this week after YouTuber Nick Shirley went viral with a 42-minute video in which he claims to be "investigating" the fraud scandal. In the video, Shirley knocks on the doors of several day care centers and demands to know whether the centers are engaged in fraud. It's a flashy piece of media, to be sure, and it caught fire over the Christmas weekend on YouTube and Twitter, where Shirley won praise from conservatives for covering a story that the mainstream media is supposedly refusing to touch.

But that is simply not true. Indeed, media outlets in Minnesota and around the country have been covering this story for months. Locally, the day care fraud story has been in the news for years—here's a Minnesota Public Radio article from 2015 about prosecutors targeting four potentially fraudulent day cares.

I bring this up not to make a point about media criticism—that's the realm of Reason's Robby Soave, who may have more to say about all this in the near future.

No, my point in bringing this up is to highlight how long state and federal officials have ignored obvious and recurring problems with the Medicaid-funded programs that are at the center of the Minnesota welfare fraud story. Look at that MPR article from 2015. It deals with four preschools that received funding through the Minnesota Child Care Assistance Program. You can probably guess what state-run program spent $4 million on the "Quality Learing Center," one of the daycare facilities featured heavily in Shirley's video.

In fairness, the Minnesota Child Care Assistance Program has a lot of company. So far, federal prosecutors have convicted 59 people and charged dozens more in various schemes that stole money from a wide range of programs, including ones aimed at feeding needy families and providing therapy for children with autism. One federal prosecutor suggested earlier this month that "half or more" of the $18 billion Minnesota has spent on Medicaid-funded welfare programs since 2018 might have been lost to fraud.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who is now scrambling to cover his butt after this scandal exploded in the middle of his reelection campaign, has ordered a state audit of 14 Medicaid-funded programs deemed by the federal Department of Health and Human Services to be at "high risk" of fraud. It seems likely that the scandal will grow as more fraud is uncovered, more charges are brought, and public awareness of the mess grows.

There's no doubt that the scandal has become a bigger story because of Walz, who gained national prominence last year as Kamala Harris' running mate, and because it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals.

Still, the real problem here is a much more boring and less partisan one, and it starts with Medicaid.

Technically, Medicaid is a joint federal-state program, but the federal government's share has grown dramatically in recent decades while the state funding has flatlined. That's due to two provisions in federal law. First, there is the federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP) rate, which varies by state and program. By law, a state's FMAP rate can be no less than 50 percent and no more than 83 percent.

Second, and thanks to the Medicaid expansion included in the Affordable Care Act (ACA), Medicaid services provided to enrollees covered by the ACA are funded at 90 percent by the federal government.

Regardless of the exact math, this cost-sharing scheme creates two correlated problems.

First, it incentivizes states to come up with new Medicaid programs—for every dollar that state lawmakers agree to spend, they get several "free" dollars from the federal government to help pad the budget. In Minnesota, for example, only 42 percent of Medicaid spending is funded by the state.

The second problem is that states have little incentive to police the Medicaid spending they oversee. Governments are always bad at spotting fraud because they are spending other people's money, but the Medicaid matching grants double down on that problem: Most of the dollars being spent are not just someone else's money; they are coming from another government's budget.

Think about the fact that state and federal prosecutors have been trying to bust fraudulent preschools and other Medicaid fraud schemes in Minnesota for more than a decade. And yet, there are always more. Law enforcement is doing its best, but the problem seems to be that the state's welfare bureaucracy is doing a terrible job of stopping the scammers in the first place.

The more you look at what prosecutors are saying about the latest fraud charges and convictions, the more obvious this conclusion becomes. Earlier this month, Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson told reporters that two men from Philadelphia heard there was "easy money" to be made by scamming Minnesota's Housing Stabilization Services program, so they traveled to the state, enrolled their businesses, went back to Philadelphia, and filed fraudulent claims from there.

Thompson called that "fraud tourism," but I see it more as the type of thing that should have been easily blocked if someone, anyone, in the Minnesota Housing Stabilization Services system was paying attention.

In fact, there was so much fraud in that one program that the state pulled the plug on it in August. And for good reason. As the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported in July (further proof that local media were not ignoring this story), the Housing Stabilization Services program was expected to cost about $2.6 million annually when it was created in 2017. By 2024, it was costing the state (and, thanks to Medicaid, federal taxpayers too) $107 million, and over 700 companies were on the dole.

This is not just a problem in Minnesota either. Medicaid fraud is remarkably common. The federal departments of Justice and Health and Human Services run a joint program to catch fraudsters, and in 2024 alone it accounted for 1,151 convictions that recovered almost $1.4 billion.

Indeed, maybe the most noteworthy part of the Minnesota welfare fraud story is that it became such a big story at all. Again, I assume that's because these alleged frauds revolve around a pair of politically convenient topics: the Somali immigrant community in Minnesota and the state's hapless governor.

Anyone who wants to stop Medicaid fraud should focus less on scoring partisan political points or demonizing immigrants and more on the boring work of fixing federal policy.

Telling states to pay for a larger share of their own Medicaid spending seems like an obvious step in the right direction. It would give state officials—from governors like Walz all the way down to the lowest-ranking bureaucrat—a stronger incentive to prevent waste and fraud in the first place. It would reduce the burden placed on out-of-state taxpayers when states with lax enforcement allow fraud like this to occur.

As a bonus, it would also help reduce the federal budget deficit. Simply reducing the higher matching rate paid for enrollees covered by the ACA could save $500 billion over a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Then, of course, you also have to do the hard work of actually ensuring that welfare dollars are targeting the truly needy. Bureaucracies will never be perfect, but it sure seems like the one in Minnesota could be greatly improved.

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  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

    Oh. It isnt about a low trust society being imported as celebrated refugees stealing 10s of billions from taxpayers?

    It isnt about democrats like Klobuchar, Waltz, Newsome and others advocating for even more spending and less accountability for these programs because they need them as voters?

    It isnt dem states calling these programs the lifeblood of their states and the economy?

    It isnt about dems including Reason raging against any and all audits such as DOGE?

    Just simple big government bureaucracy and its mistakes?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      Anyone who wants to stop Medicaid fraud should focus less on scoring partisan political points or demonizing immigrants and more on the boring work of fixing federal policy.

      The norm meme in real time.

      What was your reaction to DOGE again?

      Until these assholes are held accountable ot will continue.

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 month ago

        According to Leftist bozos like Boehm it's a total mystery why such things are concentrated in certain communities and it's racist to look into the issue.

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        And Boehm would never allow his precious ‘refugees’ to be prosecuted. Just like illegals.

        1. Kungpowderfinger   1 month ago

          To the globalists at Reason, maintaining massive uncontrolled illegal immigration into the US >>> billions of taxpayer dollars going to dirt bags, never to return.

          Didn’t read article, I’m assuming Boehm doesn’t mention the campaign contributions made to the Harris/Waltz campaign from these fraudulent organizations.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

            "...Didn’t read article, I’m assuming Boehm doesn’t mention the campaign contributions made to the Harris/Waltz campaign from these fraudulent organizations..."

            That would have required the TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit Boehm to do what used to be known as 'journalism' rather than the 'propaganda' we get from him and others.
            I run a company; I'd fire myself if my output was anything like this asswipe, Sullum, Tuccille and others. That's the reason they now get $2.50 annually.
            The mag used to come from Santa Barbara and was libertarian to the core. The first move was to LA and (my mistake), I gave them some money; downhill from there.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      But that is simply not true. Indeed, media outlets in Minnesota and around the country have been covering this story for months. Locally, the day care fraud story has been in the news for years—here's a Minnesota Public Radio article from 2015 about prosecutors targeting four potentially fraudulent day cares.

      Back page articles so it gets no focus and nothing is ever changed.

      Seriously fuck off boehm.

      Zero mentions over the last few weeks as it has blown up and you want to pretend we should go back to virtually ignoring it.

      Youre part of the problem Eric. Again. What was your view on DOGE?

      This shit should make you angry but you care more about protecting immigrants and democrats committing the fraud like a standard leftist.

      1. CindyF   1 month ago

        Minnesota media have reported on the fraud with articles stating, "the fraud isn't that much", "Republican's pounce", and "racism" (their favorite).

      2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        It’s too late, we can’t do anything about it now. Besides, it’s not that much money . It won’t make a difference in the debt anyway. If it wasn’t for the theft, the Minnesota economy would collapse!

    3. mad.casual   1 month ago

      Look, by pointing out that Democrats and social and fiscal liberals implemented it, called for its expansion, knowingly participated in its corruption, covered it up, and called for its expansion after knowingly participating in its corruption, you're just being a partisan hack rather than focusing on the root of the problem and/or any solutions to make the system better.

      And if you note that Democrats did it by exploiting low-trust, low-IQ populations of vagrants and transients, it's because you're a racist.

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 month ago

        Look, it's Republican's fault because Democrats just had to cover it up to keep Republicans from pouncing. If it wasn't for Republicans, Democrats would have done the right thing.

    4. CindyF   1 month ago

      Reason hasn't found a democrat-voting criminal yet that it will not support. Doubly so if the perp is brown or black.

      The Somalians in Minnesota have been committing fraud (with the assistance of the MN politicians--in exchange for votes and probably kick-backs) for years.

      It's not racism or vilifying a certain group to point out that fact. The Somalians are crooks. It's part of their tribal culture. They do not see their fraud as a crime as much as they see it as helping their tribe.

      In Somalia, fraud and corruption is expected. Now that Minneapolis is "little Somalia" I guess it is a given that there will be fraud there as well. That still doesn't excuse it (as the left insists on doing).

      You can't import low trust people into a high trust culture and expect anything else but fraud and corruption.

      This article is from 2018--almost eight years ago and the media was excusing them even back then:

      "Minnesota day-care fraud cash going to terrorists? Let’s unpack this."

      https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/15/child-daycare-fraud-cash-going-to-terrorists-lets-unpack-this/

      The Somalians have committed fraud in housing, student lunches, autism, elder-care, and now back to child daycare. It has cost tax payers billions. You can't blame the system. Millions of Americans operate within that system everyday without committing fraud.

      Every single Somalian refugee should have their refugee status or citizenship revoked tomorrow and immediately put on a plane back to their country. They can take Ilhan Omar (their chief corrupted crook) with them.

      1. CindyF   1 month ago

        Ilhan Omar entered Congress in 2018 with $65K debt. Today she’s worth $30M on a $174K salary.

        Between meal fraud, her husband’s shady venture capitalist firm, and a fraudulent wine company, she has increased her net worth on the back of American taxpayers.

        She should have already been deported.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

          Only after all assets, cash, and property are confiscated. Let her leave America with nothing. Also, place her on the list of known international terrorists.

          Hell, do the same with the rest of ‘the squad’ while we’re at it.

    5. freedomwriter   1 month ago

      DOGE missed this. What DOGE did was all for show. There was no rhyme or reason. No audits or analysis, just slashing for the sake of it.

      Ripping off the government whenever possible is as American as baseball and apple pie.

      I would be shocked if an audit of every hospital and doctors office turned up less than 90% committing fraud.

      Charges were originally filed by the BIDEN DOJ.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        At least it got rid of USAID.

      2. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        Just because the democrats feigned concern is meaningless because they shelved and/or hid the investigations as they did for friends and family and everyone other than those they deemed foe.

        Doge did not go into these venues of funding. This falls completely on the State. They knew it existed and instead of shutting it down they decided to join in and benefit personally and professionally.

        There must be accountability and all involved who are elected or work for the gov removed. Otherwise this fraud will continue to be incentive due simply from the lack of accountability.

      3. damikesc   1 month ago

        How would DOGE dig into what the STATE was doing with monies? Biden did not check.

        "Ripping off the government whenever possible is as American as baseball and apple pie.

        I would be shocked if an audit of every hospital and doctors office turned up less than 90% committing fraud."

        "Have you seen how bad THOSE guys are?" is a poor defense for massive fraud.

        And, no, there were no charges filed by Biden.

    6. NicholasStix   1 month ago

      "The Minnesota Welfare Fraud Story Is Really About a Broken Medicaid Bureaucracy
      "Federal Medicaid policy creates little incentive for states to stop potential fraudsters. Fixing that should be the priority, not demonizing Somali immigrants."
      What a dishonest hed and subhed! The Minnesota welfare fraud story is about demonic somalis. If a group acts in a demonic manner, then only a fool or a liar would refuse to demonize it! I suspect that Eric Boehm is a liar.

    7. Barnum   1 month ago

      I am so gullible. I thought it was about a massive fraud by low life Somalians. Thanks for setting me straight.

  2. Super Scary   1 month ago

    "because it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals."

    Ah, so we're at the "Ok, it's happening but it isn't as bad as you think" stage of the flow chart.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

      We are at the, you are a racist xenophope for noticing stage.

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 month ago

        Isn't that the whole page?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

          Ironically it was the reported screams of the woman approving the fraud under Waltz. The very screams helping the fraud for a decade.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

            Speaking of screaming. Where are all the commie scumbags this morning? No Tony or Sarc screeching ‘racism’ at us.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

              Somewhere out there a half million dollar cardboard box has 2 angels.

              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

                Did his liver finally give out?

                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

                  It’s a bad time of year for lonely, angry drunks for lots of different reasons.

                  1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

                    Or pedantic, morbidly obese sea lions.

  3. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

    The government's skirt was way too fuckin' short.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

      I just couldn't help but punch Boehm in his face because it was there.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        Why does every photo of him look like a serial killer’s mugshot?

  4. Nobartium   1 month ago

    Absolve the brownskins of agency!

    Fuck you Eric!

    1. mad.casual   1 month ago

      Absolve the brownskins of agency!

      Poor immigrants are just as bright and just as talented at exploiting medicare as white kids.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      The problem with the "youre a racist" leftists is we want all fraudsters held accountable up to and including Waltz. Race doesnt fucking matter. Boehm though is a NYT acolyte so knows skin color is what matters.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        I think this is worth reposting.

        https://x.com/GloryDoge/status/1996917066654433585

  5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 month ago

    Kill yourself or move to Somalia.

  6. Dillinger   1 month ago

    if you haven't read Cloward-Piven don't write politics for money.

    1. Kungpowderfinger   1 month ago

      + 100

  7. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

    ...it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals...

    Spiritus Mundi 2 days ago
    Reeeeason will put out another diatribe about how "immigrants" commit less crime.

    1. Hickamore   1 month ago

      If you notice, the fraudsters are the opportunistic profiteers -- entrepreneurs, they would call themselves -- NOT the immigrant recipients. The fake programs that get funded without oversight aren't scams devised by immigrants, but scams devised by native-born "businessmen," many of whom are WASPS like those in here. Like MAGA Sen. Rick Scott, whose company paid nearly $2B in fines with 14 execs getting felony convictions and Scott himself taking the Fifth 75 times in his deposition. If you're the head guy of the biggest Medicaid fraud operation in U.S. history, you skate while the underlings do time. But no, let's talk about Somali ghetto-dwellers.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        Who here is defending Scott? Went quite far to both sides this. Come up woth 16M more to rage about so you can continue to ignore this one example.

        Fucking retard.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

        Pathetic.

      3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        Blame the white man.

      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        Green looks good on you, Hickamore; one more jealous loser. Get a job, jackass.

      5. charliehall   1 month ago

        Scott is a perfect example of how MAGA adores corruption as long as it is from one of its own.

  8. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

    It would give state officials—from governors like Walz all the way down to the lowest-ranking bureaucrat—a stronger incentive to prevent waste and fraud in the first place.

    Look at the dumbass who thinks people like Walz want to stop this. He did nothing after being told it was happening.

    Boehm seems to have left out that inconvenient fact in is Reeeeee defending the bulbheads.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      Hey. He did something. He made it easier to commit the fraud and bragged about it as the VP candidate. He bragged he needed their votes as well.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        He doesn’t have Elmo’s vote.

        https://x.com/GloryDoge/status/1996917066654433585

  9. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

    The Minnesota Welfare Fraud Story Is Really About a Broken Medicaid Bureaucracy

    You mean the problem is medicaid bureaucrats are bad at their job and who you say can't be fired because orangemanbad?

    1. Longtobefree   1 month ago

      So clearly Eric hates poor people, because he wants to end Medicaid.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

        Didn't see where he called for ending it, but just "fixing" it. Which is just wishful soft thinking. Socialized medicine doesn't work full stop. Sure making the states more responsible for funding and running their own programs would help but it would still be rife with waste, fraud and abuse while delivering substandard care compared to a free market system with private charity filling in the gaps.

        1. freedomwriter   1 month ago

          Ripping off the government whenever possible is as American as baseball and apple pie.

          I would be shocked if an audit of every hospital and doctors office turned up less than 90% committing fraud.

    2. freedomwriter   1 month ago

      So in your mind, the problem is the government not catching the thieves and not the thieves themselves?

  10. Minadin   1 month ago

    No, the main problem is the fraudsters.

    Convict, denaturalize, and deport. Start with Omar.

    1. MasterThief   1 month ago

      Libertines vs libertarians. Boehm is the former and doesn't like agency and responsibility involved unless it involves a disfavored demographic to the left.
      Boehm tries to mislead readers by pretending this isn't a scam that involved a large percentage of Somalians, specifically. He defends that group while downplaying this incident and outright ignoring the other stories of fraud schemes and the high percentage of theft and violent crimes from them. The only position he is standing strongly on here is that we should keep importing more of these assholes.

      1. Minadin   1 month ago

        Does he stand on that? I must have missed it.

        Specifically, he wrote:

        maybe the most noteworthy part of the Minnesota welfare fraud story is that it became such a big story at all

        We're potentially discovering 8+ Billion dollars in blatant fraud, aided by the local liberal / progressive government. Some estimates are a lot higher.

      2. freedomwriter   1 month ago

        wow that is your takeaway...TDS

    2. charliehall   1 month ago

      Rick Scott led a company that defrauded Medicare of almost $2 billion. Scott walked away with $300 million and used it to finance his political career. MAGA loves him.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        Republicans did it first, so it’s ok?

        Walz +5

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

        Fuck off retard.

        1. Minadin   1 month ago

          Retarded or lying? Both?

          1. charliehall   1 month ago

            Neither.

          2. charliehall   1 month ago

            Snowflake triggered by inconvenient facts.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

        Charliewalz: "WhAtAbOuT!?!?!?!?!?!"

      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        "...MAGA loves him..."

        Assholish lefty shits lie.
        Fuck off and die, asswipe.

      5. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        Whistleblowers received 151 million from the suits.

        "Scott was never criminally charged, but he invoked the Fifth Amendment 75 times during a 2000 deposition for an unrelated civil suit."

  11. mad.casual   1 month ago

    It would give state officials—from governors like Walz all the way down to the lowest-ranking bureaucrat—a stronger incentive to prevent waste and fraud in the first place.

    Libertarians for Top Men all the way down.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      It amazes me that the retard Boehm cant fathom that Democrats want an easily corrupted and fraudulent system. That was the entire point behind USAID for fucks sake. A way to skim money from taxpayers.

      For a retard like Boehm who demanded to raise income taxes because BBB did not cut enough now demure on known sources of fraudulent spending is astounding.

      Boehms primary care about is protecting democrats and immigrants. He will be shouting revenge next week if anyone is held accountable. He even wants Waltz who helped increase fraud and protect against its discovery to remain in place.

      Boehm is literally fucking retarded and evil.

      Put anyone involved in this graft in fucking jail. Stop federal spending with near zero oversight. Stop federal spending overall. Implement laws making managers of these programs personally responsible for fraud under their watch.

      1. Rick James   1 month ago

        Stop federal spending overall. Implement laws making managers of these programs personally responsible for fraud under their watch.

        Whoa whoa whoa, when we said we wanted to eliminate Qualified Immunity, we didn't mean for everyone. If we did it for everyone, school teachers would be facing lawsuits for transing your kid!

  12. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

    Nick Shirley is receiving death threats, the left is openly calling him a pedo (cuz he was asking "were are the children?") and one journolist was saying the Learing Center would be justified killing him using Stand your Ground defense.

    No issues with the fraud, just expressed violence against the discoverer of the latest fraud.

    We need to stop ignoring the violence of the Left.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      Legal analyst from Politico.

      Josh Gerstein
      @joshgerstein
      At some point, the amateur effort to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand-your-ground laws

      Kill the auditors. Boehm nods his head in agreement.

      1. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

        And the Hortman's were killed by a conservative - Boehm.

        1. DesigNate   1 month ago

          An actual investigative journalist should be digging into that story more.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

            Agreed but that journalist will not be a Reason editor.

            1. DesigNate   1 month ago

              If Stossel did it, they might actually publish the article.

        2. charliehall   1 month ago

          And that assassination gave the Republicans the majority in the Minnesota House of Representatives.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

            Yet, she voted against Walz, dingbat.

      2. Dakotian (descendent of Kulaks)   1 month ago

        Apparently shooting someone who is knocking on your door is how this idiot thinks stand your ground works. Nothing Shirley did was aggressive and even if Minnesota had stand your ground laws, they would not apply to this situation.

      3. Marshal   1 month ago

        Psychologically this shows the left believes people from Dem Party constituencies left have the moral right to commit fraud such that exposing it is a threat to their lives.

        This is the sort of craziness generated by decades of immersion in left-activist philosophy. They are insane.

    2. middlefinger   1 month ago

      They are on neuron killing, violence inducing drugs (adderall-meth).

      The only solution is a federal taxpayer demand to abolish federal departments, end federal government grants and all foreign aid, public charge immigration full stop. (This commie revolution is based on sterilization of kids and currency collapse.)

      1. charliehall   1 month ago

        The War Department wastes more money than all other departments combined.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

          “We shouldn’t worry about theft because we are spending money over here”

          Walz +8

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

          "The War Department wastes more money than all other departments combined."

          Cite missing, shitforbrains.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

          All of a sudden, the neocon cockroach is concerned about military spending.

          1. charliehall   1 month ago

            Not a neocon and not a cockroach, but you are an anti-Semite.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

              You're both, chuckles. And your stupid little power words don't mean shit anymore.

    3. Marshal   1 month ago

      I read a thread of left wingers on his expose. It was one denial after another.

      - It could have been Christmas or a weekend, so obviously no kids.
      - Of course they keep locked doors.
      - Of course no one would respond to someone knocking on their door.

      These are obviously wrong to any parent who uses childcare centers. Windows are open for light, and while there is security this is accomplished by having inner and outer doors. Plus there is always foot traffic in and out when you have 100 kids. A kid is sick, workers have a shift change, prospective parents come for a visit, kids some or leave early, etc. Plus you can hear the noise!
      But nothing could possibly convince any left wingers anything wrong was going on.

      Now compare this to what Boehm writes: Everyone already knows there is massive fraud! Maybe he needs to address a different audience.

      This is how allies work: Boehm attacks anyone critical of the left but ignores that his attacks are directly contradictory to what the actual left claims. Only the right can ever be wrong.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        New one i keep seeing is it was only for 2pm to 10pm despite documents showing they charged for breakfast and lunch.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

        Seems odd that a daycare would be closed during a school holiday when working parents need daycare during the usual school day.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

          To be fair. 78% if Somalis are on some form of welfare. So they really need the free child care as they dont work.

  13. mad.casual   1 month ago

    Now imagine the same party fabricated a Russia Collusion hoax to impeach a duly-elected US President.

    *Now* imagine the same party hand-waived away government-funded GOF research that killed millions and forced everyone to wear masks.

    At some point, you really have to wonder if the bureaucracy actually is broken or whether it may be deliberately set up to operate like this.

    1. charliehall   1 month ago

      Not a hoax. Putin really try to help Trump get elected. His Asset is still doing his bidding in the White House.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

        Walz +11

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        "...Not a hoax. Putin really try to help Trump get elected..."

        Slimy piles of lefty shit lie constantly.

      3. DesigNate   1 month ago

        Parody.

      4. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        You're a delusional fool, seek help.

      5. damikesc   1 month ago

        So you are mentally disabled. Tragic.

  14. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

    Fixing that should be the priority,

    There's no fixing it. Repeal all welfare programs, they are all scams.

    1. charliehall   1 month ago

      Eliminating welfare will cause mass starvation in West Virginia.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

        I’m starting to think this is parody.

      2. NealAppeal   1 month ago

        Unless you live in West Virginia, it is not your concern. - KAR

      3. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        You're a delusional fool, seek help.

  15. middlefinger   1 month ago

    Bets on Democrats in congress kneeling in Somali cloth 2026?

    At least Reason got down on their knees first, trend setting!

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

      Reasdnc

  16. Rick James   1 month ago

    There the Somali immigrant community was, minding its own business when ALL OF A SUDDEN there sat this impossible temptation to fraudulently send money back home to a terrorist organization in a country they were still loyal to!

    1. mad.casual   1 month ago

      Look, the fact that you juxtapose illegal immigration with welfare, since the Reagan Administration, effectively reducing this argument back to convicting anyone, including American citizens, of fraud just shows how racist you are.

      You're probably so racist you don't think anybody should be on welfare.

  17. Benitacanova   1 month ago

    Where's that laughing my ass off emoji I need right now?

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 month ago

      The puking one might be more appropriate.

  18. Marshal   1 month ago

    But that is simply not true. Indeed, media outlets in Minnesota and around the country have been covering this story for months.

    The story isn't about demonizing Somalis. It's about left wing activists in government fomenting fraud in return for kickbacks and votes.

    I am confused though, is demonizing groups wrong? Because Reason has no problem demonizing anyone to their right. It seems a little weird to constantly criticize people for demonizing others when it's the top theme in your writing.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

      Groypers are the real threat. Even though only a tiny percentage of Groypers have been convicted of welfare fraud.

  19. Eeyore   1 month ago

    Government money is fraud. It starts with theft which sets a low moral bar.

    1. TJFogelberg   1 month ago

      You need to go to a 3rd world country to see how things turn out without government.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        Like Somalia?

      2. DesigNate   1 month ago

        Did he say eliminate the government? No? Then shut the fuck up.

      3. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        3rd world countries have governments that keep everything for themselves while keeping their boots on the necks of the people. No different than Hamas seizing aid given by the world and selling it to the Palestinian people.

        Which county has no government?

      4. charliehall   1 month ago

        Somalia has no government.

  20. mad.casual   1 month ago

    Second, and thanks to the Medicaid expansion included in the Affordable Care Act (ACA), Medicaid services provided to enrollees covered by the ACA are funded at 90 percent by the federal government.

    So, if I declare the whole thing to be medicare fraud on top of a Nigerian Prince Scam*, does Boehm then proceed to defend the legitimacy of Nigerian princes against terrible racists?

    *A.k.a. advanced-fee or 419 scams, the latter being the specific section of Nigerian law that they violate.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

      Again. Only a tiny percentage of Nigerian princes have been accused of welfare fraud. The rest are hard working food truck operators doing the the work that Somalian Americans won't do.

  21. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

    No, Boehm, you fucking fucktard, it’s about politicians, power, and money. The pols bring in these folks. They funnel taxpayer grant money to them for a “business” that actually isn’t real. These people get to keep some of the money, but funnel most of it back to the pols in the form of campaign contributions, either directly or via ActBlue. This helps keep the pols in power and gives them a kickback at the same time.

    It’s the corruption, stupid.

  22. Rick James   1 month ago

    1. It's not happening
    2. Ok, it's happening, but it's not as bad as you say.
    3. Ok, it happened, it's actually worse than you say, but it doesn't prove that certain immigrant populations defraud the system at a greater rate than their native counterparts when compared to the relative size of their population, it just shows that this is an opportunity for Governor Waltz to show how awesome he can be in guiding the Somali refugee community to not draw the attention of right wingers. -- You are here.
    4. Shut up racist. -- pending...

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

      I’ve already come across #4 in other venues.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        New York Times for one. The only reason Eric can write this article is they admitted to it. Then he copied their tone and argument of right wing pounces on poor immigrants.

    2. mad.casual   1 month ago

      Time for DeSantis and Abbott to round up another group of illegal immigrants and put them on a bus to Martha's Vineyard... or Minneapolis-St.Paul... again.

      It's almost like they're back to their old tactics of indecipherably campaigning for Trump.

  23. Marshal   1 month ago

    Anyone who wants to stop Medicaid fraud should focus less on scoring partisan political points or demonizing immigrants and more on the boring work of fixing federal policy.

    This is an interesting position from someone whose only reason for writing is to call people racist for being honest about who is committing the fraud.

    It would give state officials—from governors like Walz all the way down to the lowest-ranking bureaucrat—a stronger incentive to prevent waste and fraud in the first place.

    This ignores that rank and file employees have been blowing the whistle on this for a decade while the Dem power brokers in the state protected the fraud. I suppose it's a coincidence noticing this would violate Boehm's top priority of protecting Dems.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 month ago

      Lol. “- a stronger incentive….”

      Wow. I can’t even….. just wow.

  24. Longtobefree   1 month ago

    "Federal Medicaid policy creates little incentive for states to stop potential fraudsters. Fixing that should be the priority, not demonizing Somali immigrants."

    With Eric, someone always has to say the part that goes without saying - - - - - - -

    Federal Medicaid policy creates little incentive for states to stop potential fraudsters. Fixing that should be the priority, not demonizing Somali fraudsters.

  25. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

    Fvck you you fvcking worthless hack. You should be embarrassed, if If I wasnt so furious I’d be embarrassed for you.

    PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE REAL WORLD RESULTS OF MY DOGMA - OUT OF CONTROL UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION FROM ACTUAL SHITHOLE COUNTRIES HAS ZERO DOWNSIDES! ZERO DOWNSIDES!! BECAUSE WE SAY SO

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

      No chance that Eric will lear from his mistakes.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

        He’s doing what he’s paid to do. No lesson to be learned.

  26. airforce   1 month ago

    I don't see a lot of people demonizing lawful Somali immigrants. But I'm seeing a lot of people demonizing Nick Shirley and anyone else brave enough to point out fraudsters.

    Of course, simply calling people racists and nazis doesn't work as well as it used to, so I figure it's only a matter of time before someone finds a pipe bomb outside a Somali daycare center.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

      A lot of the left is trying to claim Nick is a pedophile. It is amazing.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

        We need to get rid of the left.

    2. charliehall   1 month ago

      "I don't see a lot of people demonizing lawful Somali immigrants"

      You haven't read the comments here.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        Walz +7

      2. Pepin the short   1 month ago

        Go back to Reddit you frail bitch

  27. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

    Minnesota Dad reads Eric's article to Nick.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2006076479252340757

    Collin Rugg
    @CollinRugg
    NEW: Minnesota man absolutely loses his mind during Nick Shirley's investigation into fraud, accuses him of wanting the Somali community in concentration camps.

    Shirley was seen keeping his cool as the man grew increasingly unhinged.

    Man: You are attacking the Somali community.

    Shirley: This has nothing to do with race ... this is fraud.

    Man: This absolutely has to do with us being Muslim and us being from Africa ... You are preparing for the Somali community to be taken into concentration camps.

    Shirley: This is fraud ... You are defending fraud.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   1 month ago

      If the Somalis would prefer to be in an internment camp, send them there. The camp will be in Somalia.

  28. Two Buck Chuck   1 month ago

    Thanks for reminding me why I stopped giving money to REASON.

  29. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

    More leftist propaganda. It’s a day ending in Y.

  30. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

    Hey Boehm, why don’t you rent a boat and go sail around the coast of Somalia and see what happens.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

      In related news, Israel and Taiwan have just recognized the state of Somaliland a breakaway constitutional democracy just north of the shithole Somalia. China and Omar shitting their pants.

  31. Use the Schwartz   1 month ago

    "hapless governor."

    Hapless?

    Do any of us believe for one second that Walz didn't know about this?

    "Locally, the day care fraud story has been in the news for years."

    Okay, how does a "hapless" Walz figure into this then?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

      Well he did put an air filter on his car, leared how to load a shotgun and made sure the boy's bathrooms were fully stocked with tampons. Maybe we're expecting too much. He's been diagnosed as a retard after all.

  32. rbike   1 month ago

    See, tReason was right. DOGE was a waste of time and was not the right way to end Government corruption.
    Also, the Government is corrupt but let's not hold any individuals responsible. It all part of the system.
    Hey, dumbass tReason, we can attack this corruption whenever we see it.

  33. Longtobefree   1 month ago

    "The Minnesota Welfare Fraud Story Is Really About a Broken Medicaid Bureaucracy"

    No, grasshopper, it is not.

    It is about massive tax fraud by ILLRGAL residents, assisted by democrat politicians, and the fact that no official has been arrested, let alone convicted, for their participation.

  34. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

    I still cant get over how retarded the opening of this article is. It is mind blowing retarded. So retarded it is also CNNs.

    The argument is literally we've known about it for a decade and nothing was done, so no big deal.

    Fuck you boehm.

  35. TJFogelberg   1 month ago

    This is a great take on the situation in Minnesota. (I'm a long time resident of Minnesota). The piece covers the issue well...wish politicians and bureaucrats would get their sh*t together. We pay income tax ranging from 5.35-9.85%. We pay about 7.5% sales tax on cars and retail purchases except food and clothing. We pay sales tax when we eat out. We pay $800 for car registration on new cars on a sliding scale for 10 years. It's tiring. I'm in favor of many of our state programs when they help the RIGHT folks.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

      1. You’re a sucker.

      2. The politicians and bureaucrats do have their shit together. Their plan is working great.

      3. It’s federal dollars so we’re all getting fucked.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        Increased taxes is worth it to have government forced empathy.

  36. Truthteller1   1 month ago

    Straight out of the regime media playbook. Distort, deflect and obfuscate.

  37. Eeyore   1 month ago

    Girl's rape story really about her refusal to wear a burka.

  38. 34950cf   1 month ago

    If Somalis have higher involvement in these fraud schemes I cannot agree that pointing it out is "scapegoating" Somalis. That would just be factual reporting. Just like if Democrat appointees and elected officials responsible for making sure taxpayer funds are appropriately spent happen to be the ones accountable then pointing it out is not "partisan". I suggest the author do a little investigating of his own and let us know what he finds out.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

      “I suggest the author do a little investigating of his own and let us know what he finds out.”

      A late entry for funniest comment of the year.

  39. johngray0   1 month ago

    Ok Reason, would you maybe listen to Milton Friedman on immigration?:
    “You can have open borders OR a welfare state, choose one"

    So? The "broken" part of the welfare is besides the point. The point is we have a welfare state. And it ain't going away anytime soon, fraud/broken or not. So? That means immigration needs to be cut massively, and to few special cases based on OUR needs--not theirs. Spare me the who's-picking-the-lettuce BS. The response is your cheap labor is expensive, those lettuce pickers needing 11 kinds of welfare. Then SS/Medicare on the end.

    We can have a discussion about resuming the immigration pipeline--if and only when you can demonstrate our welfare system is pre-New Deal in size.

  40. wareagle   1 month ago

    1) no one is demonizing immigrants in general, legal or otherwise. This is a specific group of immigrants that stole other people’s money.
    2) it’s possible to hold more than one thought - it’s not hard to notice a system ripe for gaming AND how, again, a specific group is doing the gaming.
    3) would it be okay if we notice this happened in a blue state with a blue as blue can be Governor?
    4) the media’s attempts to ignore this story are reprehensible and worthy of a story itself. This is why the public has such little trust in the press.

    1. ML (now paying)   1 month ago

      Squealing "That's racist" is the only way they can defend their illegal migrant/ fraudulent refugee policies against criticism. This tactic conveniently shields lax oversight, rapid program expansion, and questionable refugee resettlement policies from legitimate scrutiny, without ever addressing the hard evidence of billions stolen from taxpayers.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

      Please don’t head into the portal

  41. ML (now paying)   1 month ago

    The Minnesota Welfare Fraud Story Is Really About a Broken Medicaid Bureaucracy

    Fuck you, Boehm, you sleazy hack and bargain basement propagandist.

    Eric Boehm's article attempts to reframe Minnesota's massive fraud scandal as a mere "broken Medicaid bureaucracy" issue, while downplaying the perpetrators and the state's direct oversight failures under Gov. Tim Walz.

    Hard facts show otherwise:
    - Federal prosecutors have charged over 90 individuals across multiple schemes, with the vast majority (around 89% in the core Feeding Our Future case, and predominantly Somali-American in related indictments) involved in defrauding programs like child nutrition ($250 million confirmed stolen), Housing Stabilization Services (hundreds of millions billed fraudulently, leading to the program's shutdown in 2025), autism services, and others.

    - Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Thompson described it as "staggering industrial-scale fraud" in December 2025, estimating that half or more of $18 billion spent on 14 high-risk Medicaid-funded programs since 2018 could be fraudulent—potentially exceeding $9 billion.

    - Specific examples include "fraud tourism," where out-of-state individuals targeted Minnesota programs because they were seen as "easy money" with minimal oversight.

    - The state terminated the Housing Stabilization Services program entirely due to widespread fraud, after it ballooned from a projected $2.6 million annually to over $100 million, with most claims suspect.

    - Over 115 providers were banned from billing Medicaid for credible fraud allegations in that program alone.

    Boehm blames federal matching funds for reducing state incentives to police fraud, but the reality is that Minnesota's Department of Human Services, under state control, failed to implement basic safeguards, ignored red flags for years, and allowed shell companies to bill for nonexistent services.

    This isn't just boring bureaucracy; it's a catastrophic failure of state administration that enabled organized, large-scale theft of taxpayer dollars, primarily by a specific network of providers.

    The focus shouldn't be on excusing the scandal by pointing fingers at federal policy, but on accountability for those who committed the fraud and those whose lax oversight allowed it to flourish. *cough, Walz, cough*

    This pattern of massive fraud is not isolated to Minnesota. In Ohio the Attorney General's Medicaid Fraud Control Unit has aggressively pursued numerous cases in 2024-2025, indicting dozens of providers for overbilling, phantom services, and theft totaling millions, such as one individual responsible for an $819,000 loss through billing while clients were hospitalized, and groups stealing over $1.7 million in coordinated schemes.

    Meanwhile, in Democrat-controlled California, the state's MFCU led the nation with over $513 million in recoveries in FY 2024 alone, stemming from large-scale provider fraud including multi-million-dollar home health and prescription diversion schemes.

    Nationwide, Medicaid Fraud Control Units recovered $1.4 billion in FY 2024, with 1,151 convictions, underscoring that lax oversight and rapid program expansion enable widespread abuse across the blue states.

    While Minnesota's scandals have disproportionately involved networks within the Somali-American community, the endemic nature of these vulnerabilities across the U.S. suggests systemic issues in Democratic administrations' prioritization of expansive welfare growth over rigorous enforcement, motivated by securing political support from dependent constituencies and immigrant voting blocs, at the expense of taxpayer accountability.

    1. DesigNate   1 month ago

      They don’t see it because they don’t want to see it. Or they’re in on it.

      1. tracerv   1 month ago

        It's both for sure.

        Waltz is now doing the deflection thing about white people committing more crime.

        1. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

          He's white so he's not lying about white people committing crimes, he's involved.

          Just as Biden saying White Nationalists are the biggest threat in America because he is one.

  42. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

    So only a small minority of Somalians have been charged for fraud. But a huge majority of the fraudsters are Somalian. And in a lot of cases the fraud required the participation of Somalians who signed up for autism programs that the kids never showed up for and signed in at daycares then took them back home minutes later. There are thousands of Somalians in MN that participated in this fraud for a monthly stipend. But we're not supposed to notice.

  43. Brian   1 month ago

    "demonizing Somali immigrants"

    When Somali immigrants are so disproportionately represented among those convicted then maybe a little demonizing of Somali immigrants is justified.

    1. charliehall   1 month ago

      Racist comment.

      Most white collar criminals in federal prison are White. Demonize all White people.

      1. Brian   1 month ago

        Most non-criminals in this country are white (no capitalization needed). What's your point?

        Racist my @$$. It's just recognizing reality.

        By the way, all white (no capitalization needed) people are demonized quite often by non-white people.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

          I'm triggered by the fact that you won't capitalize White people. Whiteness is my lived experience.

      2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

        White people did it first, so it’s ok?

        Walz +10

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

        Racist comment.

        Most of the dumbest motherfuckers I know are named charliehall. Demonize all people named charliehall.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

          Charliehall has never been indicted for welfare fraud as far as we know. Some people claim that it's only because he's too busy kicking puppies and raping farm animals.

        2. Wizzle Bizzle   1 month ago

          That got a chuckle.

      4. ML (now paying)   1 month ago

        Hey ChatGpt, what's White Mike attempting here?

        Charliehall is attempting to short-circuit the argument by substituting a moral condemnation plus a false analogy instead of engaging the claim being made.

        Here’s what he’s doing:

        1. He replaces the argument with a label (appeal to moral condemnation).
        By replying simply “Racist comment,” he avoids addressing the substance (the claim about disproportionate conviction rates) and instead tries to end the discussion by stigma. That’s not a rebuttal; it’s a conversation-stopper.

        2. He uses a false equivalence / false analogy.
        The comparison—

        “Most white collar criminals in federal prison are White. Demonize all White people.”

        —misrepresents the original claim.

        3. He collapses category distinctions to force an absurd conclusion.
        He intentionally blurs:

        immigrants vs. citizens

        ethnicity vs. crime category

        subgroup behavior vs. whole-group blame

        This allows him to jump to an obviously unacceptable conclusion (“demonize all White people”) and then use that absurdity to discredit the original statement without addressing its factual or ethical premises.

        4. He shifts from empirical debate to moral theater.
        If the original claim is wrong, the rebuttal would involve:

        disputing the statistics,

        questioning causation vs. correlation, or

        arguing why collective blame is unjustified.

        Charliehall does none of that. Instead, he performs moral signaling to position himself as righteous while avoiding analysis.

        In short:
        Charliehall is using strawman + false equivalence + moral labeling to shut down the argument rather than engage it. He turns a (potentially flawed or offensive) empirical claim into an exaggerated moral caricature so he can condemn it without doing the harder work of rebuttal.

      5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

        Your spells have no power here, dip.

      6. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        "...Most white collar criminals in federal prison are White..."

        All five of them, shitforbrains.

      7. DesigNate   1 month ago

        If you’re gonna do this, at least try to make it work within the context.

        Somalian =/= all black people.

        D-

  44. Weigel's Cock Ring   1 month ago

    "Take our word for it: the democrats are completely honest, above board, trustworthy and well-meaning; the problem simply is that they aren't working hard enough is all!"

    -The fake, phony, fugazi libertarian scumbags of Reason

  45. ed tantamount   1 month ago

    Corporations steal hundreds of billions from the pockets of Americans each year and do far more damage to infrastructure that we all pay the tab for, all the while skating by on zero taxes. Yes, let's focus on this rage bait while the real criminals continue to rape, literally, and pillage. Fack oof.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

      Walz +11

    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

      You realize this isn’t going to work, right? It just makes you look like a clown.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

        Another special Ed?

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        Look like?

    3. XM   1 month ago

      Name me one time a corporation stole 9 billion dollars of medicare money.

      The losers of corporate fraud are investors and shareholders. And maybe their employees. A company in which one of their corporate board committed some fraud probably paid more in taxes than most Somalis ever in existence in America.

      The reflexive whataboutism to corporate fraud was entirely predictable from your ilk. The Somalis stole 9 billion dollars earmarked for sick and needy kids. This wasn't some green energy boondoggle. Your race obsessed liberal friends would be upset if a white man stole 900 dollars from a black church.

      The Somalis who did this are 100 times worse than Bernie Madoff. And when the dust settles, they may have stole much more than he ever did.

    4. ML (now paying)   1 month ago

      Hey ChatGpt, what's "ed tantamount" doing here?

      "ed tantamount" is employing the classic whataboutism deflection: when confronted with evidence of billions potentially stolen through direct fraud in Minnesota's welfare programs (federal prosecutors estimate half or more of $18 billion spent since 2018—potentially $9 billion+ lost), pivot to "but corporations avoid taxes legally!"

      Actual corporate fraud (e.g., financial misstatements, embezzlement) costs businesses and the economy billions annually, but consumer-reported fraud alone hit $12.5 billion in losses in 2024 per FTC, and occupational fraud medians are in the hundreds of thousands per case.

      Meanwhile, the $9 billion+ Minnesota cases involve organized, industrial-scale theft: shell entities billing for nonexistent services, "fraud tourism," and funds spent on luxury goods—direct criminal theft of taxpayer money meant for the needy, with over 90 charged and dozens convicted.

      Dismissing this as "rage bait" while ignoring the perpetrators' accountability doesn't address the scandal; it just shields failed oversight. Equating legal avoidance with criminal theft is a false equivalence that lets the actual thieves off the hook.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

      "Corporations steal hundreds of billions from the pockets of Americans each year and do far more damage to infrastructure that we all pay the tab for, all the while skating by on zero taxes. Yes, let's focus on this rage bait while the real criminals continue to rape, literally, and pillage. Fack oof."

      Steaming piles of lying lefty shit lie, constantly, especially about those who have become successful, but that's to be expected of losers like this slimebag.
      Fuck off and die, asswipe. Or you might get a job.

    6. Michael Ejercito   1 month ago

      Corporations steal hundreds of billions from the pockets of Americans each year and do far more damage to infrastructure that we all pay the tab for, all the while skating by on zero taxes.
      Not that you can show.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

        Which corporations pay zero taxes?
        the ones not making a profit (Uber), and the ones the Democrats have lavished green subsidies on (GE)

        99% of corporations pay plenty of taxes. This is stupid even for him

    7. DesigNate   1 month ago

      This isn’t even worthy of the responses you did get.

      They are t sending their best.

  46. rferris   1 month ago

    Why does Reason have so many non libertarians writing leftist crap for their readers.?

    Does reason staff even care about what it's readers think?

    I used to love Reason, today I only subscribe because it is so cheap, and almost still not worthy the price.

    Maybe someone will start a real libertarian magazine??

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 month ago

      1. Because Charles Koch hates Trump and loves his cheap illegal alien slaves. You have KMW in DC and others in NYC, who have gone native and wallow in the pigsty.

      2. No, it's fairly obvious they don't

      3. I would hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        And because quite a few of the asswipes writing here 'reluctantly but strategically' voted for droolin' Joe and want somehow to justify their pathetic, imbecilic choice by hating Trump.
        Every single one of the asswipes should fuck off and die.

  47. Iwanna Newname   1 month ago

    "That fraud is back at the top of the news this week after YouTuber Nick Shirley went viral with a 42-minute video in which he claims to be "investigating" the fraud scandal."

    I believe it went viral because it shows a man observing obvious, ongoing fraud out in the open, with apparently no government authority interested enough to care whether taxpayers' money is being flushed down the toilet. Except for his helper "David" who just looked up public records online, there was no investigative work. No hidden cameras. No hidden microphones. No disguises or fake names. He just walked up to businesses that were supposed to be providing services in return for government payments and in effect said, "Where are the services?"

    It's like walking up to a city fire station in your neighborhood, where you never see a fireman on sight, the fire engines never leave, and the dispatcher never answers the phone, and you ask, "What are we paying for?"

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 month ago

      And there are no fire engines in the building.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 month ago

        And your house is burning down.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

          And the fire engines have been spotted in Mogadishu.

    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 month ago

      RICK SCOTT BITCH! Refuted!

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 month ago

        Its like all the leftists got the same talking point. Nobody is defending Rick Scott either.

    3. MasterThief   1 month ago

      The shade thrown here is outrageous. Whether or not Shirley considers himself a journalist, he did a major act of journalism in exposing a huge story and bringing the receipts. It's more than Boehm can claim to have done in his career.

    4. grthomps   1 month ago

      I think all this outrage from journalists toward Shirley is literal embarrassment that they couldn’t run down this simple story with the resources of an entire publication. It’s probably the biggest fraud of the year hiding in plain sight. Shirley lays bare what a bunch of lazy idiots most journalist are.

      Their only hope is to nitpick and question the credibility. What a joke.

  48. XM   1 month ago

    Believe it or not, you cannot let criminals off the hook for taking advantage of something that incentivizes crime. The argument used in this article would hold zero weight in court if someone sued Somalis in civil court.

    You can't make this about anything other than Somalis defrauding the state, no matter how much you wish it was otherwise. Sorry. This isn't gift card fraud, insider trading, immigrants fudging income to get welfare, etc. This was community coordinated effort that bilked 9 billion dollars earmarked for sick and needy kids. And some of that went to terrorists. 9 billion is nearly the GDP of Somalia. Frauds happen everyday in America. This one is in its own class.

    Why does medicare being easy money for states somehow absolve their government of poor oversight? It makes no sense to me. MN pays people to check on these childcare centers. They found one with 90 violations, including "failure to report serious injuries and death". And they still kept paying them. States have the power to monitor institutions that get federal money. That's what..... federalism is.

    1. charliehall   1 month ago

      " Believe it or not, you cannot let criminals off the hook for taking advantage of something that incentivizes crime. "

      We let Trump off the hook for his 34 felonies and he lets his supporters off the hook

  49. Wizzle Bizzle   1 month ago

    I'm out. This fucking rag is worse than the NYT. At least they print the occasional fact.

    See y'all over at Spiked or literally anywhere else.

  50. Rick James   1 month ago

    Thompson called that "fraud tourism," but I see it more as the type of thing that should have been easily blocked if someone, anyone, in the Minnesota Housing Stabilization Services system was paying attention.

    Maybe demanding some sort of ID might be in order.

    1. ML (now paying)   1 month ago

      Racist.
      Everyone knows colored folk don't have ID. I have been reliably informed by Democratic Party luminaries that they can't even understand what ID is for let alone get one.

  51. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

    it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals.

    In keeping with my policy of not reading past the first lie, that's where I stopped.

  52. Quo Usque Tandem   1 month ago

    So the fraud has been known about since 2015, and since that time has burgeoned into a multi billion dollar enterprise and continues to this day?

    Bohem you hoist yourself on your own petard

    And by the way 90% of those convicted are Somali, but nothing to see here?

  53. Mickey Rat   1 month ago

    "...and because it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals."

    How "tiny" a fraction is it? It seems these schemes required fairly extensive participation by the community to have children posing as autistic in order for them to work. This likely means a not insignificant portion of the Somali community were aware of what was going on and at least countenanced it.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

      And many of them were no doubt committing other scams and thefts, since that is normal life in their culture. Acknowledging the reality of cultural differences is not "scapegoating". Sometimes the goat really is a scape.

  54. Lee Moore   1 month ago

    The Medicaid bureaucracy is not "broken" - it's working as intended.

    The fraud is a feature, not a bug. The medical-services-for-the-poor label is just camouflage.

  55. TJJ2000   1 month ago

    Yet......
    The majority of 'immigrants' (80%) LOBBY/IED for MORE Medicaid.
    So yeah. No matter which way you want to swing it it *is* mostly immigrants fault.
    ...by a 40:60 margin anyways.

  56. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

    Only a tiny percentage of Klansman have been convicted of racial violence. Let's not scapegoat the entire Klan because a few of them are proven to be violent.

  57. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    Locally, the day care fraud story has been in the news for years...

    To no appreciable effect. It took a fake journalist.

  58. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

    Only a tiny percentage of men in the Mafia have been convicted of serious crimes or racketeering. Let's not scapegoat the entire Mafia because a few of them are convicted felons.

  59. Use the Schwartz   1 month ago

    Is our children learing?

  60. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

    "and because it presents an opportunity to scapegoat the entire Somali immigrant and Somali-American community in Minnesota for crimes committed by a tiny fraction of those individuals."

    Is this what you do? Accusing anyone who speaks out about this as if they are attacking the whole community and not just the fraudulent garbage that committed the crimes?

  61. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

    Yes the fed's need to investigate the State programs they fund as the fraud in the states, especially blue, is out of control.

    Doge the States budgets keying in on the fed dollars to begin with.

    Thankfully with the ACA being sunsetted the 90% of funding noted in the article from the feds will be ending.

  62. IceTrey   1 month ago

    Shouldn't Reason's stance simply be end all social welfare programs? Is this rag even libertarian anymore?

    1. Moderation4ever   1 month ago

      I believe the libertarian position is that social welfare programs should be available to those truly in need.

      1. Incunabulum   1 month ago

        Which is not Reason's position. And Reason's position is what IceTrey is asking about.

  63. grthomps   1 month ago

    Gee, why can’t both things be true? I love it when people like this author throw out stupid false dichotomies.

    - The government, state and federal, suck at eliminating fraud. As a matter of fact the states encourage it. More of other people’s money to increase local power? What’s the downside? These programs should be as minimal as possible encouraging getting people on their feet. Not a lifestyle choice. Let the states raise their own money for it would be a good start.
    - We also shouldn’t be importing immigrants from failed cultures. They only know operating in a corrupt manner. Add on a religion that has nothing but contempt for non-Muslims and stupid libs who fall all over themselves to cover up for them as a virtue signal.

  64. Moderation4ever   1 month ago

    Money will always attract fraud. Just look at the scam attempts in your emails. Every year there will be a number of cases of embezzlement. So government program can expect to be targeted. Some of these are not even illegal but morally wrong. Encouraging people to have medical tests that are unneeded for example. Watch Fox news for the commercial for medical equipment that can be written off to Medicare, like catheters, oxygen generators, stair lifts, etc. We do need better fraud prevention and allowing time for more prevention. Congress and state legislators often focus too much on the wrong things. Often focused on drug testing, work requirement and what can be purchased with food stamps. Things that are often insignificant but make for better political headlines. These requirement eat into staff time that should be focused on getting resources where they are needed and checking out real fraud. Also remember that staff administering these programs are trained to help people get the resources they need, they are not trained to investigate fraud.

    1. Incunabulum   1 month ago

      Do we need curfews and dress codes for women too?

  65. Incunabulum   1 month ago

    >Federal Medicaid policy creates little incentive for states to stop potential fraudsters. Fixing that should be the priority, not demonizing Somali immigrants.

    Medicaid is no more to blame than I am if I leave my front door open when I leave. If I do that, it does not give you the right to burgle me. It doesn't lessen your crime if you do.

    They were asking for it, right Boehm?

    Stop trying to deflect because its *clearly* not a minority of the MN Somali community involved. There's the ones that were doing it, the ones enabling them, and the ones covering for them.

  66. Dale   1 month ago

    I've seen this kind of argument before. If you make it too easy to steal, then it's your fault, and you can't hold the thieves accountable. It's just an argument for a low trust society and here I thought libertarians wanted personal accountability instead of government oversight. This author willfully ignores the disportionate amount of fraud coming from the Somali community.

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