13-Year-Old Boy Arrested by ICE in Massachusetts and Transferred Over 500 Miles From Family
After waiting for an hour and a half for her son to be released to her, the boy’s mother was told he was instead transferred to an ICE facility in another state.
A 13-year-old boy in Massachusetts was detained by local police on Thursday. When his mother arrived to pick him up, she learned that her son had instead been taken into Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) custody and later transferred to a juvenile facility in Virginia, more than 500 miles away. A federal judge has ordered the boy's release unless the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) provides grounds for his continued detention.
The boy, whose family is originally from Brazil, was initially arrested by Everett Police Department officers on Thursday evening, according to The Boston Globe. After waiting for an hour and a half to take her son home, Josiele Berto was told her son had instead been transferred into ICE custody, even though the boy and his family have a pending asylum case and are authorized to work legally in the United States, per the Globe.
Andrew Lattarulo, the boy's immigration attorney who filed a federal habeas corpus petition on the boy's behalf on Friday, told the Globe he had "never done a bond or a habeas for a kid this young, ever." United States District Judge Richard G. Stearns ruled the same day that the government must justify the boy's arrest by the end of Tuesday, or provide a bond hearing no later than Thursday.
Although juvenile records are generally closed to the public for privacy concerns, DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Tricia McLaughlin claimed in an X post that the 13-year-old "posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested."
Of course, such allegations are difficult to confirm given the boy's age and lack important details like whether the "rap sheet" includes arrests, charges, convictions, or dismissals. Lattarulo said that the family still doesn't know "what led to the encounter with the police or how ICE got involved," according to the Globe. Whatever the case, now that the 13-year-old is being held in a detention facility outside of his home state, he will have to find an immigration lawyer who practices in Virginia and will face challenges defending himself against any criminal allegations.
"I believe the child's constitutional rights are being violated," Lattarulo told the Globe. "He should have remained in Massachusetts, where he could address any and all allegations within the jurisdiction of his home state, not in a facility hundreds of miles away."
Berto told the Globe that her son had called her from the Virginia facility, crying. The boy, who recently broke his foot while riding a bike, told his mother that he is sleeping on concrete with an aluminum blanket and has had little to eat. She fears ICE will continue to move her son around the country—potentially to states such as Texas and Louisiana with low asylum and bond approval rates—without telling her. Berto has turned to creating an online fundraiser to help get her son back.
"It doesn't make any sense for one of my clients, waiting almost two hours for her kid, and only to find out later that ICE agents took him," Lattarulo told the Globe. "They told her she could pick him up, and then they wouldn't let her see her kid."
Amid President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown, DHS and ICE have held record-high numbers of immigrant detainees. As of July, more than 600 juveniles were held in ICE custody, leading to an influx of litigation over the extended detention and conditions in which juveniles are being held, and due process violations.
While it remains unclear what will happen to Berto's 13-year-old son, it is unfortunately clear that the Trump administration seems unbothered by the many rights violations, including those against children, that continue to emerge while attempting mass deportations.
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"posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested."
Good thing we dont have evidence of gangs using minors for their crimes or i would almost be outraged.
This doesn't justify sending the kid to VA without even notifying parents. I have no problem with the whole family being deported, but shipping the kid off first isn't right even if he's in a gang.
The parents were informed.
But aside from that, where illegal kids can be placed under current judicial agreements is limited. Likely there is no facility in the area that qualifies. Autumn doesn't ever give the relevant facts.
Likely there is no facility in the area that qualifies.
Jesse, do you know for a fact that this is the case for the situation of this particular boy?
Ironic that you complain about the author of this article not providing sufficient facts when you don't provide any of your own.
Who needs facts when you can just call someone names and then declare that you won the debate?
What facts? You mean your bald assertions?
We might know, if Autumn had bothered to do any kind of journalism.
Makes sense. So was that a lie when Autumn said they didn't realize he was transferred until afterward?
In almost every case you will not be informed during transport to protect the safety of the transport. Once in a facility information is released. This is true of citizens as well in the system.
That is where I'd take issue. You don't get to take custody of a child and transfer him out of state without attempting to inform the parents.
And if you're not legally allowed to house them anywhere because of the current State leadership? What then, release?
Just to be clear; do you think Hunter Biden hiding in his brother's house to dodge alimony was his idea?
Do you think he's the only person to have ever thought of such a thing?
When immigration attorneys go to SCOTUS with "We're allowed to publish books instructing immigrants how to legally dodge immigration law." do you automatically assume all the lawyers involved have everyone's best interests in mind or do you think at least some of the lawyers (or lawyer activists) might be looking to lie to immigrants and tax payers to rip off both?
I don't spend a lot of time with deadbeat Dads and/or wanted felons and I'm sure I've been around for dodged legal calls and shaken hands with and maybe even employed lawyers who've advised such. Seems like if you'd been around even one person who's been through a divorce you'd get the picture of the sort of legal shenanigans that go on in both directions. That sometimes you're voluntarily a useful idiot and sometimes you get involuntarily manipulated into being a useful idiot.
Again, since "two weeks" we watched a 10 yr. old girl's abortion bubble upward as campaign rhetoric to a dementia-addled President's lips seemingly without the glimmer of awareness that there was a rape involved.
The idea that these people want a functioning society is itself more cognition than these people have.
The parents were informed.
Can you cite any source which demonstrates when precisely the parents were informed that their son was transported to Virginia?
All that the article above claims is that the mother was informed that he was transferred into ICE custody, but not that the mother was informed that her son left the state.
Can you cite anything that says they weren’t informed? Other than Little Autumn’s demonstrably dishonest anti ICE propaganda.
You know, dishonest. Just like you Fatfuck.
Of course she doesn’t. She’s nearly as dishonest as Fatfuck.
What they should have done is wait until his parents showed up rounded them up too and give them all a one way trip back to the free and affluent Brazil. Half measures only invites Democrats to hire lawyers to gum up the deportations
Nothing stopping them from doing that now.
Democrats will gum up the works regardless. See wvery final deportation orders no matter how old. See their judges ignore scotus on TPS.
Half measures only invites Democrats to hire lawyers to gum up the deportations
Due process is leftist.
Not understanding what due process means is leftist.
In an immigration context, due process is what Congress says ity is. Pursuant to their plenary authority, they organized immigration courts and set up rules and regulations.
Correct.
And the activist judges, despite SCOTUS, have been adding their own conditions that do not exist to the law.
Sarc is too drunk and retarded to understand that. Just like he’s too drunk and retarded to use the word gaslight correctly.
All in!
ITT, we have people who:
- admit both the parents and the child are legal immigrants, but want them all deported anyway
- believe that the government is telling the truth based on their feelings
- think that the government should deny asylum claims based on statistical probabilities associated with the applicant's ethnicity, i.e., if an applicant is from Latin America, that applicant should be denied asylum only because most asylum applicants from Latin America are denied
- support the government taking a child away from parents and transporting that child 500 miles away without even notifying the parents until after the fact
Who cares, as long as its legal?
After what illegalkind has done to us, we need to take these harsh measures!
True Libertarians love a big and powerful government that violates people's rights.
What rights?
I get you leftist retards just use words without understanding them. But the INA has been upheld multiple times including ruling on the article 2 judges it prescribes.
Have you ever tried overcoming ignorance shrike?
Shrike saw the story is regarding a 13-year old boy and just had to dive in.
13 is a little old for him.
Have you ever tried not being an authoritarian asshole? If so, try harder. If not, FOAD.
Congrats for white-knighting for the commenter that had one pf his accounts banned from these comments for posting a link to child pornography. The other accounts shit post attempting to promote the Soros agenda.
It’s your fault you fat pinko bitch. If you and your democrat masters hadn’t let tens of millions illegals into our country we wouldn’t need to clean up your mess.
So best you beg our forgiveness, and proceed to fuck off.
"So best you beg our forgiveness"
No vagina was ever seen in the life of the commenter above.
Crying "Gangs!" doesn't make your attempts to excuse and justify evil any less evil. If there's any evidence in this case we haven't seen it,
DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Tricia McLaughlin claimed in an X post that the 13-year-old "posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested."
Your headline neglects to mention "violent criminal". The exact people that all but the most rabid leftists claim to be OK with being detained and deported.
His age does not matter to the people he is threatening or assaulting. Why does is matter to you?
An appeal to emotion.
Your team is fine with "appeals to emotion" when it comes to depicting immigrants as horrible people who are predators upon blonde co-eds. Why are "appeals to emotion" wrong when it comes to depicting immigrants as generally peaceful people? Oh wait, that last part isn't an "appeal to emotion", it is instead "appeal to statistics".
Legal immigrants are awesome unless they have posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested. He’s getting deported. Adeus. Ship the parents back home too.
The illegal aliens are here illegally and need to go back home immediately. Buh bye.
Legal immigrants are awesome unless they have posed a public safety threat
I actually agree with you here. Now, the question remains is, how do we decide if a particular immigrant "poses a public safety threat"? Do we simply take the government's word for it?
Also, who in this story is an illegal immigrant? Could you be specific?
Who’s word should we take?
Whoever speaketh the leftist narratives.
That's the on facts jeffsarc accepts.
I think a shared collective reasoning by the trustees at Tufts University should decide.
You insist on using “immigrants” whereas the general issue in the US requires a distinction between non-citizens here legally and folks here illegally. It is specific not to the story but your comment.
An immigrant is simply a person who migrates inward. It is not reserved for use only for legal immigration.
I think a shared collective reasoning by the trustees at Tufts University should decide.
Your facetious answer is dodging the question. In this case, you are accepting blindly the government's statements. I seem to recall that a previous government also insisted that "masks are highly effective at stopping the transmission of COVID" yet in that case you did not blindly accept the government's statements. Why is that?
Also, who in this story is an illegal immigrant? Can you be specific?
Nobody. Yet. Your insistence to generalize instead of being specific was the compelling reason to provide the distinction.
You keep dodging the central issue. What is the best way, in your view, to decide whether a particular immigrant "poses a public safety threat"?
In this specific case, the boy has posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested.
The previous criminal activity. Being in possession of a firearm. Being in possession of a large knife.
Are you certain that this boy committed, for example, "violent assault with a dangerous weapon"? Why are you so certain that he did?
I feel good enough about deporting the family over this.
Unfortunately, Autumn chose not to vet out the criminal record further nor did the Boston Globe. Sloppy journalism. I’m certain both would have included if they had info stating that was factually incorrect.
I’m confident that the lawyer would have mentioned that information being incorrect had it been. I understand why the full name hasn’t been released; it likely wouldn’t help as juvi records tend not to be available online. And I agree. There are MAPedo types online.
He was found in possession of a firearm and a large knife is enough to deport.
I’ll keep an eye out for body cam footage at Midwest Safety and Donut Operator. Because he is a minor, even with blurring, the footage might be exempt from FOIA request.
I feel good enough about deporting the family over this.
So the standard you use to decide if an immigrant "poses a public safety threat" is your feelings. Got it. At least you're finally being honest.
Unfortunately, Autumn chose not to vet out the criminal record further nor did the Boston Globe. Sloppy journalism.
The boy is a minor, and as a rule any minor's "rap sheet" is not public record. Autumn even mentions this.
On the other hand, Tricia McLaughlin, government propagandist, very helpfully provides us with her version of his claimed "rap sheet", which she knows quite well cannot legally be verified by any independent source, at least at this time.
So you believe the claims of a government propagandist providing "information" that cannot be legally verified, based on your feelings. That's a great summary of the MAGA movement actually at least when Trump is in charge.
Tricia McLaughlin, ICE officers, and the Everett Police Dept are all fabricating his record and why he was originally arrested? These aren’t Biden’s job numbers massage therapists.
The authorities responsible for this already indicated why he is a public threat to society and that he was in possession of a firearm and a large knife at the time of contact.
Autumn and the Globe could have contacted the family for detail regarding the boy’s criminal past. People that know the family. Neighbors. Journalism.
I don’t get to decide; but if the decision is to deport all of them, I’ll agree that was proper.
Kick them out if they dont show otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt!
Drop the legal vs. illegal bullshit. It's completely obvious at this point that the people shrieking the loudest don't give two shits about legality, they just hate immigration.
I long classified myself as distinctly leaning to the right, but the current American right is dominated by liars and disingenuous assholes. Since I'm still not on board with the left, I'm feeling a little lonely. Oh, well, me against the world is an unfair fight, but they started it so don't expect any mercy now.
Strawman.
The alien attempting an asylum claim who has criminal charges but also caught with a firearm which would be illegal and grounds for immediate dismissal.
“how do we decide if a particular immigrant "poses a public safety threat"”
The extensive rap sheet helps with that.
Its also true that their predators to blonde high school students.
Illegalkind is a threat to us!
Your team is fine with letting 20 million illegals in so we have to clean up your mess.
This is all your fault.
I happen to admire blonde co-eds. The only predation upon them that I support is my own.
I seem to recall you shrieking earlier about wanting to "protect kids". Remember? If someone was standing naked in front of a window in his/her own house, and if some kids happened to see that person, you wanted the cops to arrest that person "to protect the children". Remember that?
Deporting the violent criminal will protect the remaining kids in that area from assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, b & e, and destruction of property.
Am anticipating the parents getting shipped back home shortly too. Autumn will post a “pull at the heart strings” article about that after a review of the newest teen vampire romance novel.
violent criminal
And we know that this boy is a "violent criminal" because he has been proven to be a "violent criminal" in a court of law, right? Oh wait.
But hey, since this guy is a "violent criminal", why not send him to CECOT in El Salvador? What do you think?
He’s going away. Buh bye. Not sure he’ll be allowed to bring his gun and knife with him. “ICE Deports Child and Steals His Toys”
Would you be opposed to sending this boy to CECOT?
He and his parents should be sent back to Brasil. Adeus.
Would you be opposed to sending this boy to CECOT?
They should be sent back to Brasil.
I still remember when jeffsarc used to claim to not be protecting illegal criminals. Who knew it was a lie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes otherwise he would NOT have a fucking rap sheet including violent crimes.
He is a minor offender. You ask about Cecot?
So basically, you do t wam to protect kids, as you’re addressing the subject like the concept as alien, even anathema, to you.
Is that because you want cover for when you molest them?
The government is always right. ICE has never made shit up. That's why it's okay for the government to do anything it wants to anyone it wants to.
Man retard leftists will do whatever they can to deny reality. No wonder the ignorance permeates off you.
Its funny you claim to be a libertarian but also demand everyone submit solely to your viewpoint, with democratically passed laws being invalid. Weird.
The only reason Jeffy give a shit about illegal kids at all is because he wants to use them as little fuck dolls.
…posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested.
Deport this one. Buh-bye.
Is this boy an illegal immigrant?
Not yet. Hopefully his parents’ permission slip gets revoked.
So you are advocating for deporting legal immigrants, this boy's parents. In your view, what have they done to justify deportation?
Their legal permission should be revoked resulting in their status becoming illegal. They are the legal guardians of someone that posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested. They can all go home.
So the parents didn't do anything to justify deportation. I see.
Do you generally favor the government arbitrarily converting legal immigrants into illegal ones in order to deport them?
They are the legal guardians and responsible. Like when sarc’s kid keyed that car, he was obligated to make the owner whole. It isn’t arbitrary. Their temporary permission slip should be revoked.
The better analogy to the current situation, would be that if a parent's child committed a crime, that you would advocate for both the parent and the child being thrown in prison - without a trial - based only on the government's say-so that the child was responsible for the crime.
Depends on their race, nationality, and political persuasion.
Thanks rachel. Always an intelligent argument.
Sarc sharing how he arrives at positions.
They aren’t facing prison. And perhaps they could be arrested and charged based on how the child gained access to a firearm. Mass has strict gun ownership laws. Hopefully Everett PD is investigating that.
The parents, the legal guardians of the child, would be facing having their guest status changed to permission revoked. They would be escorted back home to Brasil.
You should really stop trying to attempt analogies.
My father and grandparents, aunts and uncles, on that side of the family, are all Mexican, as in, born in Mexico. I was born in the US. I've been to Mexico a lot. An awful lot. For visiting family, for vacation, for business, for study abroad, you name it.
Would you like to hazard a guess at how quickly I would be deported from that country if I was causing this level of trouble, or anything close?
Tell us.
As usual, your analogy is wrong. Much like a trunk bear, it lacks a realistic situation and logical comparison.
Let's break it down:
would be that if a parent's child committed a crime,
The child committed a crime. Hence the initial arrest by the Everett police.
that you would advocate for both the parent and the child being thrown in prison - without a trial -
Noone is advocating for anyone to be thrown in prison, unless you equate being sent to one's home country as prison, which makes no sense. The child broke the rules, the rules state the asylum status can be revoked, the child is a minor and can't be deported alone, one or both parents therefore must bear the irresponsibility of its child's behavior, much like a trunk bear, and accompany that child back to his native country.
based only on the government's say-so that the child was responsible for the crime.
It's a little more than some say so. The kid was arrested. There is a list of things he was arrested for. Based on this arrest alone it could be said the kid broke the rules. No?
In summary, your white knighting falls as flat as it usually does.
the asylum status can be revoked
Their status is weaker than that. They don't have asylum status; they're just temporarily protected from deportation while their asylum application is considered. That courtesy can be revoked at our government's discretion.
Pedo Jeffy, we all know there is no way you would ever simply agree anyone should be deported, no matter what. So now you’re making sophist arguments trying to obfuscate the issue. The terms of the parent’s residency here are what they are. Comparing it to actual citizens is spurious at best. But that’s what you do. You’re disingenuous, and a downright lying shitweasel.
You may go now. Dismissed.
Do you think these folks are not the same as the over 85% of asylum seekers who are denied? If you are waiting for your court date claiming asylum you sure as fuck should not have committed crimes.
Yes. His parents/guardians have a tentative, pending asylum status.
DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Tricia McLaughlin claimed in an X post that the 13-year-old "posed a public safety threat with an extensive rap sheet including violent assault with a dangerous weapon, battery, breaking and entering, destruction of property," and that "he was in possession of a firearm and 5-7 inch knife when arrested."
Well, since this guy is an "illegal immigrant", the only "due process" he is entitled to is for the government to just declare him a criminal, without having any sort of burden of presenting any proof in front of any kind of judge (immigration 'judge' or otherwise), taking him away from his parents even though he is a minor, and sending him away. Amirite guys?
*clears throat*
Fuck you.
As much an answer as your shit inquiry deserved.
And Autumn is a less amusing version of Dalmia, who was he drizzling shits.
Yeah we know. You don't really give a shit about "those people".
But don't call you racist or fascist. That would be just wrong.
But don't call you racist or fascist. That would be just wrong.
I find it to be utterly hilarious that Team Trump's most hated and feared domestic dissenters call themselves anti-fascists.
Because youre a retarded leftist who watches each maddow episode many times?
Did you even know the origins of antifa was an armed communist group?
“domestic dissenters call themselves anti-fascists.”
Probably because they’re the actual fascists, what with using violence against anyone who uses speech to disagree with them.
They are just a bunch of commies
Of course he isn't an "illegal immigrant", he entered the country according to the law and applied for asylum just as the law prescribes. But because Team MAGA loves to conflate legal and illegal immigration when it suits them, they don't really care.
If he has been convicted of even one of the crimes of which he has been accused his asylum application is null and void. You see if you are seeking asylum in a country you had be on your best behavior and not commit serious crimes.
This is why jeff defended asylum fraud claims. So he can use it to protect violent criminal illegals.
Who cares they committed fraud. Who cares Biden didnt follow the law in regards to granting asylum. Jeff doesn't care about the actual law anyways.
Has he been convicted of those crimes?
Convictions require due process, which as we all know is a leftist value. Immigrants and political enemies are all criminals by definition. So any accusation of a crime is sufficient proof of guilt. Can't afford to allow courts to set dirty foreigners and leftists free.
Are yoi two truly this retarded and despite links to the INA and asylum laws you still dont understand convictions are not required in the process due for immigration infractions?
Your only goal here is to raise illegals above citizens. That's it.
In an immigration context, due process is what Congress says it is.
and what congress says about immigration is subject only to limited judicial review against a constitutional challenge.
I will ignore your appeal to authority and point out two things.
First is that the rules are written by the executive, enforced by the executive, and adjudicated in administrative courts that are part of the executive. The judges in these cases are not independent members of the judiciary. Rather they're executive employees who take orders from their superiors. If the order is "deport them all" then they are supposed to deport them all. If they do not follow orders then they are replaced by people who will. That right there is a mockery of due process that spits in the face of justice.
Second is that they aren't even bothering with that charade a lot of the time, or they wouldn't be getting sued left and right.
Powers are separated for a reason. If the rules were written by Congress, enforced by the executive, and adjudicated in real courts with independent judges, then I'd be singing a totally different tune. Checks and balances, you know? But there isn't any of that going on with regards to immigration.
Sarc will ignore the law and reality then gish gallop in hopes jeff will give him a reach around.
First sarc is incorrect as it is congress who wrote the INA. Sarc is retarded.
Second, sarc calls following the law as written instead of being ignored a charade.
Conclusion, sarc is ignorant to the entire discussion around immigration law.
As Mr. Justice Frankfurter wrote years ago, the formulation of these "[p]olicies pertaining to the entry of aliens . . . is entrusted exclusively to Congress." This is not to say, as we make clear in n 5, supra, that the Government's power in this area is never subject to judicial review. But our cases do make clear that, despite the impact of these classifications on the interests of those already within our borders, congressional determinations such as this one are subject only to limited judicial review.
Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 796fn.6 (1977)
Due process means limited (in practice zero) judicial review. That's nonsense that only a lawyer could respect.
That is because Congress has plenary power over the admission and exclusion of aliens
I missed the part of the constitution that delegated absolute power to Congress with regards to immigration. Can you point it out to me?
The Naturalization Clause: Grants Congress the authority to establish a uniform rule for naturalization.
You missed it only because you've never actually read it sarc.
Its the same reason you still cant learn what due process means. You define it as whatever you desire it to mean. Unlimited for illegals. None for your enemies.
The Naturalization Clause: Grants Congress the authority to establish a uniform rule for naturalization.
Do you know that the entire immigration process happens within the executive branch? Congress writes vague laws, the executive writes rules based upon their interpretation of those vague laws, they enforce those interpretations in the name of the law, then they adjudicate them in administrative courts in which the judges do what they are told because the are not independent members of the judiciary.
The role of Congress is minimal, and the Judicial branch is completely absent.
Separation of powers? Checks and balances? Those are all leftist notions according to the Trump defenders around here.
The Supreme Court reserves authority to review the decision of immigration courts. Fiallo was one such decision.
I was just answering your question about which part of the constitution did that.
I don’t disagree that they slough off a lot of their responsibilities, but that’s more a problem with Congress and how they decided to establish those uniform rules than how the executive executes the rules.
Appeal to Authority?
In what manner did he fallaciously appeal to an authority?
I would presume so since nobody, including his attorney, deny the charges. And as other posters have linked his latest arrest involved him threatening another student and a knife was in his possession.
I would presume so since nobody, including his attorney, deny the charges.
Guilty until proven innocent. I see.
Shut up you are wasting space in these forums spewing your stupid nonsense.
Immigrants are bad. And descendants of immigrants born in the US are bad too if they're brown, and even if they're in the country legally they're illegals because they speak Mexican not American like good people. But white immigrants from South Africa are good.
Said nobody here. But that’s a great man of straw.
Straw Manchu
Standard retard leftist argument when they have nothing intelligent to say.
Includes a dash of real racism thinking other cultures are incapable of following laws or immigration processes.
Shrike wants as many questionably documented boys into the country so he can be their big brother at his Neverland Ranch (a singlewide mobile home).
He did? You mean his parents did.
"The cruelty is the point." -- Adam Serwer
He gets the same due process that democrat Bill Clinton signed into law 30 years ago. If your morbidly obese ass doesn’t like it, work to get the law change. As it stands you’re just stamping your feet bitching about it.
And no one here considers this unjust. Guests have to follow the rules or they go home. And no one cares that you don’t like it.
So seethe harder, you fat pederast bitch.
Unlike Jeff, when seeing stories like this the first question is, 'what has Reason omitted to make this up'?
True, the author here could have done a better job of digging in to the reason why ICE constantly moves and ships detained immigrants around the country, like what happened in this case. Why do you think that is?
Azathoth!! is still remembering how to log back in before they can answer.
Which of your handlers provided this abortion of a response?
Who cares? Ship them wherever so long as the last place you ship them is back to their country.
It is very clear, Jeff, that much was omitted to craft this narrative-- and I use 'omitted' deliberately.
Reason frequently crafts stories that can only exist because the information that refutes those stories was cut.
But this is the reality of all leftists, yourself included. When what is contradicts what the left wants, leftists ignore what is in favor of narrative.
Unfortunately for the left, what is doesn't rely on what they think or how they feel. It just is.
First clue is the headline. The 13 yr old boy was arrested by the Everett Police dept. first, then taken into custody by ICE.
With MAGAs, cruelty is the point.
Luckily there was no cruelty by the 13 year old when he destroyed property, committed assaults, amongst other crime.
As a juvenile, there was no reason to move him 500 miles from his family. Also immigration detention is civil, not criminal. Also what you said is only what is alleged, this administration has a habit of lying about this stuff.
Ive literally seen you defend the Flores agreement lol. Live by your own consequences.
The gun and knife at arrest was put there by the cops right doc retard?
"As a juvenile, there was no reason to move him 500 miles from his family."
He had a gun. Given that he had a rap sheet, immediate deportation was in the interest of public safety.
As Libertarians, we always trust what the government says.
Do you think repeating retarded assertions turns an assertion into an intelligent one shrike?
Yup. Justice is blind and emotionless. But Team Trump isn't interested in justice. They want retribution. They want to inflict sadistic physical and emotional harm against their enemies, real and imagined. If they could get away with it they'd disembowel illegals and set their guts on fire, laughing the entire time.
Wait... youre emotionally crying over a violent criminal in this thread lol. Do you ever not project? Tell us again about how holding bad government actors is bad again.
Then ending it with emotional imagination.
Yet you can give two shits regarding the victims of this criminal. Because youre a leftist piece of shit.
Remember when you claimed you werent against deporting criminals? Another lie?
He is just a kid. In the US we recognize that children do not have the same culpability as adults.
He is a violent criminal whose legality to be here is revoked for any crime dumdum.
Are you this fucking dumb?
He is a violent criminal
We know this because the government said so, and the government never lies. Isn't that right JesseBot?
Jesse mocks people when they cite the government and calls them names. But when he does it it's totally different. And stuff.
What's really sad is that even if this kid isn't a "violent criminal" and still taken by ICE, Jesse would still be twisting his dick like a pretzel trying to defend it, like the dutiful disciple he is.
It's all just a red herring.
True.
Wut?
Are you two just going full retard or did you start at full retard.
Oh goodness me. Arguing from an actual informed position instead of one of ignorance like you and Jeff.
And yet you dismiss the physical and emotional harm against white girls like Laken Riley.
The boy was just minding his own business, never harming anyone, until suddenly when ICE pounced.
You know the case is bad when even reason has to admit the criminal history.
Yet not bad enough for jeffsarc not to protect the criminal over the citizens.
Cruelty is reading you shit irrelevant and delusional posts.
There is a mute feature. It works great. I use it to silence liars who try to goad me into defending myself. They fail every time. Just look at all the responses they never get. Mute is awesome.
You dont mute people. You dont make informed or intelligent arguments.
Yup. Many readers have muted Sullum.
What happened to Mollie Tibbets, Kayla Hamilton, Rachel Morion, and Laken Riley was cruel!
They were killed because filthy illegals wanted to rape their white pussies!
Cruelty? Like the way degenerate Democrat faggots like you groom kids to be raped by older men, or to convince them they should be surgically/chemically butchered?
Yeah, you democrats know cruelty alright, you cause almost all of it.
Of course, such allegations are difficult to confirm given the boy's age and lack important details like whether the "rap sheet" includes arrests, charges, convictions, or dismissals.
If only there were a goddamned billion-dollar industry whose primary, if not sole, purpose was to run down the leads, suss out the facts, bring the receipts, and inform the goddamned populace.
Instead we get the "I'd do my job, but it's really hard and what I find might not agree with my predetermined conclusions or false perceptions of reality."
You cannot hate them enough.
She also has no care crimes occurred but wants to focus on weak DA policies that dismiss violent crimes or deportable offenses.
Even the fact that the boy was arrested with weapons doesn't matter. Facts are unclear apparently.
Relatedly, Re:"Video Shows Federal Agents Arresting a Chicago Journalist. They Now Say She Threw Objects at Their Vehicle."
https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/14/wgn-employee-arrested-border-patrol-agents-immigration
At this point, it's just sad.
>>Of course, such allegations are difficult to confirm
instead of showing your stripes every fucking time how about you dig for an answer?
lol edit: or what mad said ^^
99.99% of asylum cases from Latin America are bogus. So is this one. I don't know why the kid was shipped to Virginia, but they should all be deported, almost certainly.
From another story, Virginia has a juvenile detention facility. Dunno if there are any closer. It would have been questionable to house the 13-year old with adult illegal alien rapefugees. Jeffshrike Ramirez hardest hit.
Yeap. Autumn isnt a good enough reporter to even investigate the actual reasons behind the movement including a very well known judicial agreement forcing some of this action.
I'd be fine if the Flores Settlment was removed and actually follow the law as written.
The location probably came down to his age, and logistics. JeffSarc has to try and manufacture some sinister conspiracy out of it, because they are open borders zealots, and Trump hating Marxists.
The denial rate of asylum claims is closer to 65%. You can see the data for yourself here.
https://tracreports.org/reports/751/
Do you generally think asylum decisions should be based on statistical probabilities associated with the ethnic group that the applicant belongs to? Or do you think that asylum decisions should be based on the specific facts and circumstances of a particular individual?
They're dirty foreigners who are all ethnically socialist. That means they will all vote for Democrats, as will all of their progeny, for all time. Because of that they should all be turned away. That and they're making white people a minority. Whites need to remain the majority, so the influx of brown people must be stopped.
More retardation from jeffsarc. The usual.
Always appeals to emotion and strawman. Never the law. Never intelligent. Standard leftist argumentation.
Continues to amaze me how much you defend criminals more than citizens. Defending murder and court abuse against your enemies. But for your favored classes outrage. Lol.
Always appeals to emotion
LOL your whole schtick in this entire discussion is "HE'S A VIOLENT CRIMINAL", i.e., appealing to people's emotions to get them to react negatively towards him, when he has never been proved to be a violent criminal in any objective manner.
Your team is all about appealing to emotion. Your pal Chris Rufo even explicitly said so when he explicitly advocated for the use of agitprop in order to push your agenda.
Jesse can always be counted on accusing others of what he is doing, while he is doing it.
The projection of you two is unreal.
Do I start posting your comments around J6, trump, Bannon, Navarro again?
“He’s a violent criminal” is a logical conclusion drawn from his rap sheet. Which is extensive for an adult, and the kid is ONLY 13.
They need to go. I know you can never accept that, especially given that you admitted if it were up to you, convicted child rapists from foreign countries would be given unrestricted entry in to the US.
Wrong the government says over 85% are denied.
I provided a citation for my claim.
Where is the citation for your claim?
People who enter the country illegally should not be permitted to make asylum claims.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/everett-massachusetts-teenager-ice-arrest/
Ahh. Another mayor. Like the one in Colorado who claimed TdA wasn't even there let alone taking over apartment buildings lol.
Fucking idiots on the left.
It took a while to get past the emotions and reach the actual facts.
Is this magazine called Reason for a reason?
I had to read through a lot of emotional background before understanding what really happened.
Looks more and more like nytimes.
We know that even elementary school kid was able to shot his teacher when was not taken seriously. Still an author and sadly some commenters are trying to focus on actiobs of authorities rather than on the issue of protecting people from bandits of any age. Being an elementary school principal, I was once told "get lost" when the more skilled teacher realized that a kid i was talking to had scissors and was ready to use them to attack another kid. Those who are so concerned about legality of every action, they probably never been in a situation like that.
"...Those who are so concerned about legality of every action, they probably never been in a situation like that..."
Nope; they are TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit who don't care so long as they can blame TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of some action that might be objectionable.
Why do the spokes models at Reason always pick the worst poster child?
Because it works on the most retarded leftists like jeffsarc.
Freedom of speech, due process, and other rights, do not exist to protect those who deserve pity.
An appeal to emotion along with a strawman.
And Congress decides what process is due in an immigration context.
Congress decided that immigration courts have the authority to order people deported.
When you're picking cherries, you get a bunch of damaged ones.
Breaking News
https://whdh.com/news/everett-mayor-says-city-is-not-responsible-for-ice-detainment-of-13-year-old/
Everett officials state no firearm recovered but there was a knife. The arrest occurred after an investigation where the peaceful, gentle immigrant child threatened another student in a public school.
The attorney has been working with the family for three years; I’d like to think a firm denial of any false allegations by DHS regarding the child’s legal history would have been made.
Of course, such allegations are difficult to confirm given the boy's age and lack important details
Keep that in mind the next 5000 times you (and Emma, and Christian) decide to write an article based exclusively on allegations in some plaintiff's Complaint.
it is unfortunately clear that the Trump administration seems unbothered by the many rights violations, including those against children
Kinda like how it was unfortunately clear that the Biden/Obama administration seemed unbothered by the many riots violations, especially those against children caused by mass (and largely unchecked) immigration.
Aside from abortion and LGBT Pedo, I can't think of anything more cruel and betraying that the State could do to its own citizenry than empowering mass immigration. It's an absolute violation of the most basic responsibility we entrusted them with. Every single one of them belongs in jail, and then after that in Hell.
"...Kinda like how it was unfortunately clear that the Biden/Obama administration seemed unbothered by the many riots violations, especially those against children caused by mass (and largely unchecked) immigration..."
Further, now that Trump is (by law) removing the illegals by the bushels, it would be helpful for some context.
Like, for example we have a sample size (alleged) of ONE here. Out of how many?
Is this a propaganda sheet or something you might want to cite? For the latter, give Welsh, Sullum, Boehm and Lancaster a kick in the ass on the way out the door and hire some folks not terminally afflicted with TDS.
Or admit the entire rag is suffering and is a laughing-stock for those of us capable of thought.
Keep trying Autumn, you'll find that one real atrocity that you can use to leverage the whole edifice apart;)
She's (?) working hard to establish her TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit cred which seems required of those writing for (what a shame) was once a credible source.
Keep it up, Autumn; asswipes like you are a dime a dozen, and not worth that.
his home state
Sooo...somewhere in Brazil?
"Massachusetts student"
A real Hitler would have sent him to the gas chamber. Or to work in a munitions factory in Tennessee.
If they were here with a PENDING asylum claim, that means they entered the country illegally and are allowed to remain under a forbearance program like TPS or humanitarian parole. Those programs are not available to foreigners who enter legally. To say they are here "legally" is gaslighting. Their temporary forbearance status can be revoked. Being an armed criminal or harboring one is certainly a justification for revoking it.