Why Does Trump Want U.S. Troops Back in Afghanistan?
Mike Waltz is no longer national security adviser, but his plans for Bagram Air Base seem to have stuck in the president's head.
Four years after expelling American troops, Afghanistan wants to move on from its conflict with the United States. The Taliban government is in talks with the Trump administration about restoring diplomatic ties, economic trade, and perhaps even security cooperation, according to The Wall Street Journal. But President Donald Trump has a price: Bagram Air Base.
Over the past week, Trump has repeatedly brought up the idea of putting U.S. troops back in Bagram. According to CNN, he has been pushing it to his national security team for months. "We're trying to get it back because they need things from us," Trump told reporters during a visit to Britain, later posting on social media that "BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN" if the U.S. military doesn't get Bagram.
The Taliban are not keen on the idea. "Even if the United States recognized the Taliban and pledged to rebuild all of Afghanistan, we would never give up a single inch of our country for their military presence," Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi told the Afghan outlet TOLOnews.
Even with the Taliban's consent, reopening Bagram might "end up looking like a re-invasion of the country," Reuters reports. According to Reuters' military sources, repairing, running, and defending the air base would require tens of thousands of troops supplied via long, complex, and expensive logistical lines. (Then–Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin put the number lower—but still high—in 2021 testimony to Congress, saying it would take "as many as 5,000 troops.") Rather than fighting for control of Afghanistan, these troops' role would be to stand guard against neighboring China.
"I liked [Bagram] not because of Afghanistan. I liked it because of China," Trump said in July 2024. That idea seems to have been put in his head by Mike Waltz, who served as his national security adviser from January to May 2025. During the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, then-Rep. Waltz (R–Fla.) had publicly argued that giving up Bagram was a mistake because "we will no longer have a U.S. airfield in a country that borders China," which could have been useful to incite Uyghur resistance against Beijing or threaten China with a second front during a future Pacific war.
It was one of the many Hail Mary arguments by hawks who wanted to prevent a U.S. withdrawal. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R–Ill.) argued that Afghanistan's mineral wealth was too valuable to give up. Democrats and Rep. Liz Cheney (R–Wyo.) tried to portray the Taliban as a Russian proxy, citing dubious intelligence about Russian operations in Afghanistan.
But China and Russia were not the real reasons these people wanted to stay in Afghanistan—or at least not the primary reasons. Waltz, for example, had said in 2017 that "we're in for a long haul and I think our nation's leadership needs to begin telling the American people, I'm sorry, we don't have a choice, we're 15 years into what is going to be a multi-generational war because we're talking about defeating an idea."
Now the idea of keeping Bagram has outlived the war that it was meant to prolong. What was supposed to be an excuse to keep fighting the Taliban has become an excuse to mend ties with them. The comments by Foreign Minister Muttaqi suggest that the Trump administration had given quite a generous offer for Bagram.
Turning former enemies into friends is no vice. In 1995, 20 years after communists forced the U.S. out of Vietnam, the communist government welcomed American diplomats and businesses back into Vietnam. And earlier this year, the Trump administration began the process to restore full diplomatic and economic ties with Syria. But friendships abroad do not have to come with a large American military presence overseas.
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This will be fun -- if the Trumpies rise to the bait and defend this. If they're silent, I'll take that as being embarrassed and afraid to admit it.
Trumpians are not capable of embarrassment. That would require a sense of shame.
Leftists are truly incapable of shame. You fuckers celebrate political assassination and then jeer the widow in mourning and wish death upon her children. The gathering mourners are called Nazis and white supremacists, including the black and brown mourners.
Don't talk about shame you fucking dickhead.
Sure buddy. Except that I'm not a leftist and I don't support any of those things. I think the people who did that are terrible. But otherwise sure. Great point.
Cue up the usual response of "That's not what you think! I'll tell you what you think and then I'll argue against it! But I don't do strawmen! You do strawmen!"
*yawn*
You're so fucking boring. And completely without shame.
Keep on bleating "Left!" I suppose sheep-fucking isn't a perversion when you're a sheep yourself.
The only people I call Nazis are those who who insist on saying Nazi shit, or at least Nazi-adjacent. I don't celebrate or wish death on anyone, but I'm not shedding any crocodile tears for the loss of a terrible person either.
It's a stupid idea. We should not even consider it. You cannot put the spilled milk back in the bottle. Best to deal with them from as far away as humanly possible.
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You caused sarc to dribble all over himself.
I guess sarc is a Trumpie now, or at least identifies as one.
Not sure what he is; for a time he was openly celebrating he was non-binary.
Here's a quarter, buy yourself some reading comprehension.
It's a good thought from one perspective but that ignores 20+years of bad blood from a practical perspective. I'm not surprised Trump thinks he can charm the Taliban into doing what he wants but that doesn't make it feasible.
Shut up, stupid Stupid. JFC, you're so full of yourself.
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Eventually, when Dear Orange Bleeder-taxer-tariffer-pussy-grabber-of-the-peons becums Earth's DickTatorShit, He can even spend Earthling taxes to banish illegal sub-Martians to Uranus!!! Now THAT idea STINKS just like Uranus!
To hell with Afghanistan, better all around if we lease Can Ranh Bay from Vietnam.
Think of the pay per view revenues from watching the CCP heads explode.
Kipling knew to stay out of Afghanistan in 1890:
The Young British Soldier
If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
We can't conquer them and we can't leave them alone. Lord Salisbury
'Never get involved in a land war in Asia' - Vizzini of Sicily
Close all foreign military bases. Don’t open any new ones.
Bush-Cheney-Hillary-Biden-McCain going there was dumb. Let’s not (try to) return.
That would be the start of something beautiful.
So we need Bagram for the same reason we need Greenland? Because of China?
Trump should start an investigation over who is responsible for negotiating a deal to surrender the base in the first place.
Trump would not have left all of the military supplies behind.
At the very least he would have gotten a good price - - - - - -
Yeah, probably not.
Yeah, Humvees work great in space…they just need to be uparmored. Keyboard warriors have had the best ideas this century! 😉
The equipment and supplies left behind had already been handed over to the Afghan national government. If US forces had tried to remove or destroy them, the people whining about leaving them would have been screaming about disarming our allies instead. Biden did as well as anyone could have, given the shit sandwich he was handed. Pushing through the withdrawal was one of the few useful things he ever did.
Obama the 2nd
Trump’s two biggest achievements were the Covid vaccine (hugely consequential and hugely positive) and surrendering to the Taliban (not very consequential but positive). Trump has disowned the vaccines and installed people that discouraged his own supporters from getting them…and now he’s going to disown his other great achievement!?! We will only be left with trillions in debt and an economy in the shitter thanks to Trump 2.0.
I wouldn't call it surrendering so much as just acknowledging reality. The Taliban basically controlled most pieces of the country that didn't currently have a US soldier or marine standing on them. If we'd tried to stay they would have likely stepped up attacks. Any retaliation for those attacks probably would have caught up innocents, buying them new recruits. Trump's biggest mistake on Afghanistan was not doing this in 2017.
The idea of the Taliban as Russian proxies is beyond idiotic. These are some of the same people who fought for years to get the Russians out.