Why Is Trump's Border Patrol Arresting Firefighters During a Wildfire?
Trump has promised to go after illegal immigrants "committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans." His record consistently says otherwise.
Illegal immigration has been a hallmark of President Donald Trump's platform since his first campaign announcement in 2015. But that policy plays out in such self-defeating ways that it's worth wondering what the president actually hopes to accomplish.
On Wednesday, The Seattle Times reported federal law enforcement had arrested "two people fighting the Bear Gulch fire on the Olympic Peninsula."
The Bureau of Land Management, "working alongside U.S. Forest Service, requested assistance from the U.S. Border Patrol as work contracts with two firms were terminated," according to a press release Thursday from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Out of 44 crew members onsite, "two individuals were found to be present in the United States illegally, one with a previous order of removal. The two individuals were arrested and transported to the Bellingham Station on charges of illegal entry."
The arrest was a reversal of federal policy under two presidents. "Absent exigent circumstances, immigration enforcement will not be conducted at locations where disaster and emergency response and relief is being provided," the Department of Homeland Security announced in 2021, during Joe Biden's presidency. And in August 2018, under Trump, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) declared it would "suspend routine immigration enforcement operations in the areas affected by" wildfires in northern California, as well as "evacuation sites, or assistance centers such as shelters or food banks."
In a statement, Sen. Patty Murray (D–Wash.) called the arrest "as immoral as it is dangerous." (CBP's press release said the arrest "did not interfere with firefighting operations or the response to any active fires in the area, nor did it pose any danger to the surrounding community.")
"Hispanic immigrants play a pivotal role in wildfire response," Reason's Jeff Luse wrote this week. "Federal officials showing up to job sites and removing these workers from privately contracted crews will very likely delay wildfire response times and put more Americans at risk."
CBP did not reveal the nationality of the two people arrested. Regardless, it's especially ironic to arrest two firefighters for immigration offenses while they actively fight a wildfire that, as of Wednesday evening, was only 13 percent contained.
Earlier this year, amid wildfires in Los Angeles, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum sent firefighters to help out. "We are a generous and supportive country," she posted on X.
Trump is now apparently kicking out firefighters during a wildfire simply over their immigration status.
If Trump insists on carrying out immigration enforcement even during disaster response, it raises the question of what he actually hopes to accomplish.
The Biden administration "oversaw an unprecedented flood of illegal immigration into the United States," according to an executive order Trump signed on his first day back in office. "Many of these aliens unlawfully within the United States present significant threats to national security and public safety, committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans….Enforcing our Nation's immigration laws is critically important to the national security and public safety of the United States."
If so, immigration enforcers would certainly prioritize egregious offenders—the ones truly "committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans."
Instead, there is considerable evidence the Trump administration is simply rounding up as many potential deportees as possible, regardless of the actual danger they pose.
In May, Trump advisor Stephen Miller reportedly berated ICE officials for prioritizing violent offenders, saying instead they should "just go out there and arrest illegal aliens" by rounding people up at Home Depot or 7-Eleven. Last month, White House border czar Tom Homan told Fox News that immigration agents "don't need probable cause" to question and detain people and can instead use their own "observations" of things like a suspect's "occupation" and "physical appearance."
Focusing so much attention on people who are merely present in the country without permission—not just "the worst of the worst," as Trump says—has consequences.
After reentering office, Trump reportedly ordered ICE's Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)—which polices offenses like human trafficking, cybercrime, and financial fraud—to shift focus and instead prioritize routine immigration enforcement and deportation. Similarly, Trump has recently deployed federal agents to make arrests for petty crimes in Washington, D.C., tasks for which they were not trained.
This week's news is more of the same. Arresting firefighters during a wildfire simply over their immigration status undercuts the president's rhetoric on both immigration and public safety, and how he hopes to deal with each.
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How DARE those illegal sub-humans fight forest fires for us, when Jesus Himself AND Donald Trump also, all TOLD us to HATE, without end, and without mercy, all of those EVIL fire-fighting illegal sub-humans?!?!?!?
(Somehow, however, they are EVIL only when fighting fires in blue-voting areas!!! SNOT in the red-voting areas!!!)
Trump and His Trumpaloos and ICE BrownShits are raiding all of the BLUE cities and states! Make all of the libs cry; ruin their economies by taking away many of their hard workers! THAT will show them to vote "Team D"! Do SNOT raid the farmers and THEIR hard workers in the RED states, 'cause they (farmers) vote for MEEEEE!!!
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/heres-how-ice-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-arrests-differ-between-red-and-blue-states-cincinnati-sanctuary-policies-local-enforcement-laws-president-united-american-immigration-officials-bill-reconciliation-budget-detentions-administration Here's how ICE arrests differ between red and blue states, according to data From there, “In Republican-leaning states, 59% of ICE arrests occur in prisons and jails. Conversely, in Democratic-leaning states, ICE is more likely to arrest immigrants from the community, with 70% of arrests taking place at worksites, streets, and during mass roundups.”
Trump will literally burn down the country to enforce his nativist bigotry. Just like Hitler burned down the Reichstag to be able to enforce his anti-Semitic bigotry.
And both policies were popular.
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He’s so nativist that he married two European women. But sure Charlie, it’s nativist not to want tens of millions of indigent, unvetted illegals running around the country.
We already allow over a million foreigners to move here every year. If that ain’t enough for you, than what is the correct number?
Plucky has good enough eyesight to tell Christian National Socialists from Pagan International Socialists. If 4M LP spoiler votes are so unimportant, why are so many MAGAt anuum deployed to stink up the Reason commentariat with their bad breath? Commie DEMs actually lost when their prohibitionist bitch swore not to stop shooting hippies over pot. Gary Johnson borrowed a pro-repeal running mate (rather than anarco-commie or ku-klux infiltrator) and covered the gap in 13 States casting 127 electoral votes on J6.
The arrest was a reversal of federal policy under two presidents.
Two presidents? We gotta keep doing what two presidents did! In perpetuities!
Goddamnit we just got *out* of Kabul! Make up your fucking mind Reason!
Reason’s mind is made up by Koch. Because no Koch, no Koch bucks.
Do you mean to tell me democrats did it first?
CBP did not reveal the nationality of the two people arrested. Regardless, it's especially ironic to arrest two firefighters for immigration offenses while they actively fight a wildfire that, as of Wednesday evening, was only 13 percent contained.
Oh noes! Private contractor will have to hire legal firefighters! The horror! Illegal immigrants: Making the u-turns regular Americans won't do.
Urban firefighters get the best safety equipment in existence. One reason is the agency formerly known as the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. The single profession they were most concerned about was firefighters. As a result of their work, line of duty deaths have plummeted in recent decades. This is a big deal.
But wildland firefighting is very different and NIOSH didn't have authority or resources to help. It is a dangerous low prestige profession and it is no surprise that the Federal Government had to hire illegal immigrants.
LOL
It’s no surprise that democrats are hiring illegals.
You never worked a fire line, have you. I worked as a hot shot out west while in college and I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about. People out west respect forest fire fighters and hold them in high regard.
Great Moments in Unintended Consequences: Paying undocumented, illegal immigrants to fight wildfires (Vol. 20)
The Year: 2025
The Problem: Parts of Washington State are on fire!
The Solution: Have the government pay a bunch of people they don't know, with no conspicuous ties to Washington State to fight the fires.
Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?
"What could possibly go wrong?"
A Shitler-like Dick-Tator-in-the-making THWARTS the firefighters because there are... OMG, wait for shit now... There are ILLEGAL SUB-HUMANS lurking among them!!! DARING to put out fires without Proper Papers Please!
I know, crazy sci-fi, shit like that could NEVER happen here in the USA...
Washington State government is working hard to out California, California. In fact, we are now number two in the nation for high gas prices, behind California. As we are run by far left Marxists who should be in prison, or at the business end of a firing squad for treason. As opposed to occupying positions of authority.
Hopefully President Trump can find a legal pretext to declare martial law in Olympia and lock up our democrat officials.
News Flash!—Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do on illegal immigration! Cartoon at 11:00!
News Flash!— Shitler did exactly twat He said He'd do to the Jews, Roma, gays, "defective" cripples, and people who opposed Shitler!
The 1920 Christian National Socialist plank is quite specific:
8. Any further immigration of non-Germans is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, be forced to leave the Reich immediately.
So... do you have any records of foreign Jews or brown pipo working to put out fires in Dresden? Any foreign vegetarians manning the hoses at Hamburg?
It’s what he was elected to do. He has a mandate.
OMG! The Trump Administration is enforcing immigration law?
We're all going to die! /s
Well if you are in the path of the fire, you will die.
The ICE goons should have been drafted into fighting the fire.
What do you have against goons? Bigot.
Turns out 2 illegal immigrants chopping wood is the difference between life and death. Who knew? Well you, I guess...
Lay off the hyperbole bro. This isnt Trump "burning down the country like hitler..."
charliehall is as retarded as Tony.
Not fair to Tony.
Hey now! Charlie is a Harvard PhD……. In remedial math and retardation.
...because of course; Only those 2-illegal immigrants can stop a fire! /s
Woodsy the drug owl said that.
cause those 2 illegals are all that stands between safety and being burned alive!
but...but...but...he is reversing federal policy under the last couple of administrations to not enforce federal law!!!!!
it's especially ironic to arrest two firefighters for immigration offenses while they actively fight a wildfire that, as of Wednesday evening, was only 13 percent contained.
Serious question: Why is this ironic? Because the immigration offenses problem is only 13 percent contained?
It is ironic because they weren't actively fighting a wildfire. He even reports that in the story.
It's ironic because someone got married earlier that day but it wasn't raining to put out the fire.
Christian National Socialism published a warm and fuzzy plank to comfort race suicide socks and whitecaps "offended" by immigration: 24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations within the state as long as they do not endanger the state or violate the ethical and moral feelings of the Germanic race. (See? No special exemption for folks putting out forest fires)
"Why Is Trump's Border Patrol Arresting Firefighters During a Wildfire?"
Duh.
Because they were breaking the law during a wildfire.
And it wasn't during a wildfire.
CBP's press release said the arrest "did not interfere with firefighting operations or the response to any active fires in the area, nor did it pose any danger to the surrounding community."
But other than that, good story.
(and I do mean story)
Where's Chumby? I need more help with my 10th grade SJW algebra homework.
If an Antifa protester firebombs an ICE detention center and some of the firefighters that show up to put it out are illegal immigrants, is ICE supposed to arrest them so that the center can burn and Antifa's 1A rights aren't oppressed or let them put out the fire so ICE can still have a place to keep apprehended illegal immigrants?
Just shoot them all.
They were arrested because they are illegals you stupid fuck. I cannot believe the idiocy of the bleating sheep.
It's pretty much as simple as that. Your illegal, you get arrested and deported. Everything else is misdirection and worthless blather.
By its use of the possessive pronoun to impersonate a personal pronoun, Diverticulum Sockie here identifies as a semiliterate apologist for anything a Trumpanzee judge says the law says.
that translated exactly nothing. nice job throwing a bunch of random words into a sentence, though.
Hy is Joe Lancaster a steaming pile of TDS-addled lying shit?
He’s a pinko too.
Maybe, just maybe, with a few less ILLEGAL ALIENS there won't be as many wildfires started.
It doesn't help though, when a certain governor, mayor and state government live in a different universe.
This article was asinine when Luce wrote it. We do not need Luce's mini-me writing an even more vapid piece.
When you are aping Luce, swallowing a bullet is something to consider.
Reeeeason doubling down on stupid.
Why Is Trump's Border Patrol Arresting Firefighters During a Wildfire?
Because there were no illegals rescuing baby ducks that day?
The Muslim illegals must be taking a break
From terrorizing Jews.
Are they here illegally? It was two people from a crew of four hundred.
Fewer “journalists” and more firefighters could be a path to better things.
Yeah. No concerns about reporters wasting their time with these stories.
Lancaster, Sullum, and Boehm could head out there to assist with the fire suppression efforts. We’d probably get a decent few articles from them as well about the culture of fire fighting out west from a “boots on the ground” perspective.
Or perhaps the three of them could die in a fire?
Or tragically stumble head first into an industrial woodchipper?
Stick a pulaski in their hands and let them have at it for a few weeks. No way would I trust them with a Stihl of any size.
That would require them to leave their liberal cities and go out into flyover country.
I have to ask because as great as we're supposed to believe things are going, I haven't been able to find a job all year, but -- I9s are still a thing, right?
J6es sure are--with all violent felonies pardoned. Put on a hood, carry a cross and see if ICE will hire you to kidnap schoolchildren. Their website says there's a $50000 signing bonus, no steenkin' degree needed and they don't even care if you voted against President Grant.
It's work journalists won't do.
I wonder if Reason will ever hire a journalist?
“Trump has promised to go after illegal immigrants "committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans." His record consistently says otherwise.”
Not even you believe they were the only people he was going to go after, as you had several articles bemoaning his talk about mass deportations prior to the election.
Yeah is it Alzheimer's or selective memory? It seems they have no issue screaming orange man bad daily so it must be selective.
There's no pleasing Desi Arnaz here...
“it would "suspend routine immigration enforcement operations”
1. That was from 2018. I wonder what’s changed in the last 7 years?
2. “The Bureau of Land Management, "working alongside U.S. Forest Service, requested assistance from the U.S. Border Patrol”. Don’t wasn’t even routine immigration enforcement, it was responding to another agencies request. Got it.
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I made no value judgement on this or other immigration actions in this comment. I merely pointed out the problems and inconsistencies in Joe’s article.
Sorry you took offense to that.
See? Christian National Socialism is all about objectivity and logical consistency. Not only that but values too: if the godless commie dems did something first, that's still doubleplus ungood because THEY did it in Bad Faith. DerSiegdesGlauben knows about these things, so Plucky take heed.
I'm confused, because I don't see the part of the article that says they have the legal right to work in the US -- and the "one with a previous order of removal" part suggests exactly the opposite of that.
You know the story about Van Halen and the M&Ms? If the department can't be trusted to do the bare minimum of checking I9s on the people it hires, how can we be sure they're following any established safety procedures and protocols? There are certain jobs where it's okay to cut corners, but public safety is not any of them.
See? Joe Lancaster articles apologizing for the "let's import terrorists and Ebola carriers" plank demanded by anarco-communist spokespipo advising the LP platform committee only make National Socialists MAGAt objections look good. Observe that NO Wallace Klansmen dared criticize the 1972 original LP platform. A reboot to that shortest platform could restore our almost vertical vote growth.
Why?
Because Biden flooded the country with illegals. And because they got caught. They're all going Lancaster. All of them.
And you say 'firefighters' as if the vast majority of people fighting wildfires aren't just basic labor. Cut brush, bulldoze firebreaks. Stuff like that.
So . . . two previous presidents changed policy in the past - but now a president is not supposed to change the policy that was set in the past? Past administrations can constrain future ones now?
Back then there might have been a good reason for that policy - or there might not. And today things on the ground might have changed, needing that policy to be revisited.
Remember Laken Riley!
Also, Trump's record *is* going after dangerous illegal immigrants.
His record is also going after any other's that come to the attention of ICE too.
You can do both.
"Hispanic immigrants play a pivotal role in wildfire response," Reason's Jeff Luse wrote this week. "Federal officials showing up to job sites and removing these workers from privately contracted crews will very likely delay wildfire response times and put more Americans at risk."
It was a lie when he said it, and it's a lie when you repeat it.
They are not doing anything related to fighting fires.
They were not "fighting wildfires", they were standing around a parking lot.
They were arrested because they are in the country illegally, one with a deportation order.
Wouldn't it be nice if US Senator's like Murray fought for American Citizens as hard as they do for illegal aliens? Don't forget, all these court orders, endless battles to deport etc cost the taxpayer money.
Yup. The court work prolly cost more than all else except the thugs. The solution is to denounce the Psychotropics convention Nixon pushed on the rest of the non-communist world to get them to ban non-toxic, non-habit-forming LSD. Already the Harrison act had quadrupled the selling price of non-addictive cocaine just in time for drug prohibition to bring on WW1. The side effect was the impoverishment of Andean South America, which had formerly profited by offering that coffee substitute to men and women willing and able to pay for it. Most caudillo Hoovervilles are the result of U.S. exportation of violent prohibition laws.
"The arrest was a reversal of federal policy under two presidents."
8 years? Maaaaaayyybbbeee 16? That's practically tradition! And Dems love them some tradition!
Oh wait...
Reason abandoned any shred of credibility long ago. It’s as bad as Vox or Slate now.
So? you mean it wasn't a reversal of law? When did policy become sacrosanct?
So Reason is telling me that if a criminal happens to be a firefighter, they can't be put in jail or prosecuted?
That's a curious take. I mean, it's retarded, but it's about what I would expect from morons with no consistency or system of ethics.
Reason is telling you that illegals cannot be removed, no matter what.
Yeah, rilly! It's like saying a treasonous mob of vandals can break and enter the Capitol, ruin furniture and shit, but thass okey-dokey because they were pissed that National Socialism and Orango-fattie lost the election. There's textbook christian nationalsocialist altruism and double standards!
Why? Because they're illegals.
Anarchists were banned from entry into the Yew Ess by act of Congress. And that one was a keeper. It therefore follows, as night follows day, that 16th Amendment suporters got it repealed.
Ku-kluxers are all hood and no balls. If any a yew girl-bullying sissies had a lick o guts yew'd join ICE:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vq_iiArLf0E
Fire-fighters NEVER actually put out a fire, they can only TRY to protect human habitations. Every wildfire burns itself out when it feels like it. So arresting illegals who are fighting fires (and I really doubt they are effective anyway) is fine with me. Show me the data on the effectiveness of EACH firefighter, and I may change my mind.
Pretty sure Trump was always about getting rid of ALL illegals, but most especially the violent criminal elements. But all of the illegals aliens were in the proverbial crosshairs.