Is RFK Jr. 'Weaponizing Public Health'?
The CDC needs drastic reform, but RFK Jr.'s firing of agency head Susan Monarez does not achieve that.
The Department of Health and Human Services announced on X that newly confirmed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Susan Monarez no longer held that position yesterday. Although the details are still murky, it seems HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sought to remove her because she objected to signing off on various vaccine recommendations backed by the secretary and his handpicked minions. Perhaps RFK Jr. intends to keep his promise to give infectious diseases an eight-year break.
Monarez, so far, has refused to step down. In a statement issued by her lawyers, they argue that as she had been confirmed by the Senate and that therefore only the president could fire her. They further asserted, "Secretary Kennedy and HHS have set their sights on weaponizing public health for political gain and putting millions of American lives at risk."
They added, "When CDC Director Susan Monarez refused to rubber-stamp unscientific, reckless directives and fire dedicated health experts she chose protecting the public over serving a political agenda. For that, she has been targeted. Dr. Monarez has neither resigned nor received notification from the White House that she has been fired, and as a person of integrity and devoted to science, she will not resign."
Shortly thereafter, White House spokesman Kush Desai issued a statement asserting that since Dr. Monarez is "not aligned with the President's agenda of Making American Healthy Again," that "White House has terminated Monarez from her position with the C.D.C." Her attorneys responded that such a mere statement from a White House functionary was "legally deficient" and that she remained at her post. President Trump has so far not acted.
The drama may have come to close this afternoon. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt apparently confirmed that President Donald Trump has fired Monarez and announced that a new replacement for CDC director would be named very soon.
Immediately after RFK Jr. "fired" Monarez, several other senior CDC officials announced their resignations. Those leaving the agency are Chief Medical Officer Debra Houry; Daniel Jernigan, leader of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases; Demetre Daskalakis, the head of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases; and Jennifer Layden, director of the Office of Public Health Data, Surveillance and Technology.
This follows RFK Jr.'s abrupt firing in June of the 17 members of the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and then seeding it with eight new members, many of whom clearly harbor anti-vaccine sentiments. Let's not pretend not to know what we all in fact do know: Despite his testimony during his Senate confirmation hearings that he is not "anti-vaccine," RFK Jr. was the founder of America's leading anti-vaccine activist group, Children's Health Defense. Recall that he asserted back in 2021 that the COVID-19 vaccine "is the deadliest vaccine ever made." So, of course, he is going to pursue an anti-vaccine agenda.
And pursue it he has. Earlier this month, the HHS canceled $500 million in Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority mRNA vaccine research contracts. Yesterday, the Food and Drug Administration announced that it is recommending access to the updated COVID-19 vaccines be limited to folks "who are 65 years of age and older, or 12 years through 64 years of age with at least one underlying condition that puts them at high risk for severe outcomes from COVID-19."
In the meantime, the largest measles outbreak in 30 years occurred on RFK Jr.'s watch. Hilariously, publishing magnate Steve Forbes posted on X "While Biden oversaw a 383% surge in measles, Trump's HHS under RFK Jr. swiftly contained Texas's outbreak with local cooperation, vaccines, and real leadership. Compassion + action = results."
This is a master class on how to lie with statistics. During the Biden administration's four years, the CDC recorded a total of 527 cases. In just the first seven months of the Trump administration, there have been 1,408 cases with 176 hospitalizations and three deaths. That's a 267 percent increase over the Biden administration's entire toll. Instead of immediately recommending measles vaccines at the beginning of the outbreak, RFK Jr. initially advised giving vitamin A to children. So much for "compassion," "action" and "results."
The CDC's manifold failures during the COVID-19 pandemic made it clear that it needs drastic reform and a return to its roots as an agency focused on fighting infectious epidemic disease. This evidently is not the sort of reform that RFK Jr. intends. Firing Monarez may not be "weaponizing public health," but it sure looks a lot like gutting it.
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The weaponization of the federal agencies has gone full retard.
I see no reason why the US Postal Service needs a SWAT team.
Even the EPA has its own SWAT team
Sure, someone might set a lump of coal on fire and they'd need to investigate the arson.
You never know when an employee is going to go ... postal. Although, I could have sworn the USPS was a private business. I'm sure they told us that.
The CDC needs drastic reform, but RFK Jr.'s firing of agency head Susan Monarez does not achieve that.
Everyone with letters after their name who works at the CDC should be fired by RFK.
To be clear, everyone with letters after their name that was there between 2019 and 2024
There is no deep state but the HHS Director's lawyers are pretty sure that it takes at least a President if not an act of Congress to shit can her.
You can’t have chicks in charge.
More testes needed.
Or pronouns in their bio, profile, or signatures.
And that's not limited to the CDC. That's government-wide.
Actually, strike that. Apply it to the private sector too. Every single person who ever agreed to do that should be jobless and destitute for the rest of their days.
"The CDC's manifold failures during the COVID-19 pandemic made it clear that it needs
drastic reformto be relegated to the dustbin of history."And Trump was President then. His interference with the CDC professionals contributed to Americans dying.
If only we had listened to the experts, nobody would have died!
Lockdowns, social distancing, and experimental vaxxes for the win!!!
Fuck off, chuckie
Thanks for conceding the CDC should be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Pwned.
"If only we had the right people in charge!"
There is adequate scientific evidence form at least 15 different countries that question whether COVID vaccines saved lives and some countries think they increased infections and possibly deaths. You should do a literature review.
I don't have time now charliehall, but if you want I'll can give you a short bibliography. It's just some tedious typing since they are scientific journal articles, but really, you (and others that post here) should look into this and stop feeding your delusions with Fauci/Democrat falsehoods only spoken to help them regain power and hurt the current administration (remember "both sides", in cahoots with Putin, COVID-19 is from a wet market and if you think it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology you're a bigot, the border is secure, printing money is not inflationary, Biden is perfectly competent, et. cetera., ad nauseum). True science questions everything and searches for what's closest to the truth. That means questioning what one currently believes.
Those experts kept fast food joints open and gyms closed.
True. Operation warpspeed produced a mandatory experimental jab that pharma companies knew did not cure or prevent Covid. And then healthy young men died of myocardial disease. He should have just shut the shit down.
He was as naive as you. He didn't realize til later that the CDC was nothing but a giant fucking turd filled with political ideologues pretending to be scientists.
Trump and Kennedy want to Make America Sick Again.
What do Trump and Kennedy have to do with your low T and ED? Maybe put down the bag of Cheetos and go outside.
PWNED!
Yeah, the country is so healthy. Retard.
Some guy riding the NYC subway was so healthy he died on the subway. Then some illegal alien rapefugee piece of shit raped the corpse’s mouth then stole his belongings.
Needs moar Top Men!
Although the details are still murky...
But that is not going to stop you from reaching a conclusion, is it Bailey? The Science! is strong with this one.
His sentiments are clear. Bailey is a sheep who trusts the unaccountable administrative state and is only bleating now because the new shepherd is culling wolves.
This mother fucker defending the CDC after Covid is hilarious.
Signed - Unvaccinated for Covid and Measels survivor.
"Handpicked minions"?
Bailey, you idiot, EVERY political appointee is a handpicked minion. You think the Democrats pick random names from the phone book?
No, this is fair;)
Previous heads have taken office in a different environment - they didn't have to handpick their minions as everyone in the agency was already a willing minion and on board with the way things were being done.
Because Kennedy is shaking things up he obviously couldn't use the current crop of minions and had to go out and handpick his own team.
Yes, you are right. I stand corrected.
I think they should give the Boston phone book a try.
If they open it to the Ad page, we could have an Adams restoration featuring plenty of Sam's, John's and John Quincy's
RFKjr is an excellent test case for any claims for scientific honesty from Trump supporters. If you think his policies are unscientific and wish Trump had appointed someone with scientific integrity, you're being scientifically honest. If not you're an antiscience cultist.
...wish Trump had appointed someone with scientific integrity
Trump did. Anyone who questions everything has scientific integrity.
Now get back in line for your 27th booster.
Anyone who questions everything has scientific integrity
That is a component but is insufficient. Do you question your own beliefs? And if you don't like the answers to the question, do you ignore those answers? RFKjr: "No, and yes".
Try again to defend this preposterous and lethal appointment.
Poor baby. Now you might have to think for yourself instead of the govt doing it for you - and fucking you over. You wouldn't know science if it but your fucking ass.
So no actual argument, then.
Does Vitamin A prevent measles?
Har Har
https://x.com/RussellSeitz/status/1960892683259425177/photo/1
Anyone foolish enough to think we need scientists running our government policymaking is, you know, an idiot. And I guess that includes you.
Policy is political and moral. You can't science your way to morality. (RFK is no moral paragon either)
If you had read what I wrote, not what you imagined I wrote, I never said anything about scientists running government policymaking. One can have scientific integrity without being a scientist. But you can't have it if you believe anti-vaccine bullshit, try to suppress research which disagrees with your unscientific beliefs, etc. whether you're a scientist or not
What a stupid fucking comment.
Although the details are still murky, it seems HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sought to remove her because she objected to signing off on various vaccine recommendations backed by the secretary and his handpicked minions.
Good! A leader with such intellect and moral fiber should have no problem making a name for themselves in the private sector.
Monarez, so far, has refused to step down.
Oh... nevermind.
Bailey, how do you reform an agency?
Its the culture that needs to be changed. If you just change some rules and not change the culture then all you get is people reverting back to the old ways things were done.
You reform an agency's culture by firing the people who set the culture.
>and his handpicked minions.
Maybe the reason previous heads didn't have 'handpicked minions' is because everyone in the agency was already a minion? Hence the need to clean house.
I get that you don't *like* the way Kennedy wants things to be - and that you DO LIKE the way things are - but don't pretend that Kennedy is doing something crazy by purging senior staff as that is, literally, the way any organization, private or government, clears out deadwood and those opposed to the new way of doing things.
That is, literally, how these agencies got to be the way you like them to be - previous heads fired those who weren't on board with them.
You and Fauci certainly did.
Fake and defective
"In the meantime, the largest measles outbreak in 30 years occurred on RFK Jr.'s watch."
Wow, in some alternate universe you mean?
This statements infers no cases of measles existed before Jan 20th in the US?
When people travel from parts of the world where there is measles and bring the virus into America the new NIH director is to blame.
RFK didn't prevent a single child from getting a measles vaccine but it's his fault? And he published an op ed urging parents to get their kids vaccinated. And the outbreak originated in an Amish community who didn't get there kids vaccinated for reasons that have nothing to do with RFK. And jabbing completely useless experimental and probably dangerous Covid vaccines into babies is a fucking crime against humanity you piece of shit. There really is no depth to which the radical statist Bailey won't sink to defend his appeals to utterly failed authority.
RFK didn't prevent a single child from getting a measles vaccine
And he has gone through this multiple times too. He's not against people voluntarily getting time-tested vaccines that work. He's against forcing people to get vaccines, especially experimental ones that don't work.
A stance that 10 yrs. ago was pretty bog-standard Democratic, but then, Ron has been on the full-authoritarian "mandatory vaccinations are the only solution to the tragedy of the commons" kick since zika.
This is a meaning less statement. It is obviously intended to impugn RFK Jr., but, at best, you only cite a correlation. You utterly failed to demonstrate any other link or connection between the event and the person. Look deeper than your bias
Piece of shit description was meant for Bailey not Neutral not neutered.
Of course RKF Jr. is sabotaging the public health system. That is what he was hired to do. He has mindlessly slashed grants, fired experts, disbanded long standing safety committees, and pushed a wide range of debunked conspiracy theories.
MAGA is a death cult.
Parody
"fired experts"
wow are you a low IQ far left brainwashed Democrat cultist....giggles
No.
MAHA is far greater gift to the nation's dentists and undertakers.
I wouldn't say he is "weaponizing" the public health system. It's more like he's first neutering it, and then trying to remake it in his own ignorant image.
It's a real shame that Mother Jones, I mean Reason shills for the left wing now. I got suspicious of Bailey back when he went full retard on climate change, to the point he was no longer even looking for free-market solutions. Kind of a basic libertarian thing. Jacob Sullom is probably worse. Lots of reasons to depise Trump and his adminstration. But like most left wing magazines Reason spent zero time adequately covering Biden's historically horrific administration; economics, civil liberty abuses, regurgitation of statist ideology. I mean good god, Reason even soft-pedaled the negative (barely) review of Fauci's memoir. I suggest cancelling your subscription to Reason and get on the Mises Wire or CATO. But holy lord in heaven, Reason is a showdow of itself. I can't believe that Robert Poole still contributes. It's a real shame. Reason and the Libertarian Party drove me a way from their weird brand of psuedo-libertarianism. Backing Chase Oliver really showed where Reason and the LP are. Shame on them.
It seems that the infighting is the real tragedy of this issue. When are the egos and grandstanding going to stop and get to the business of alleviating the problems and work on solutions. Pointing fingers and accusing is not going to get the job done. The real culprit is the ongoing divide and conquer fiasco that is tearing the country apart and people having a closed mind on just about everything that comes out. The agency needs overhauling and RFK is doing just that. But because the dinosaurs do not want to lose the gravy train is why the push back. Humanity will not move forward if you cannot humble yourself for once and have some harmony and good dialogue going forward regardless of poitics. Money has corrupted the Agency as well as the others and is another reason nothing is getting done. We shall see where the chips are going to fall and hopefully they will fall in the right side of history. If not our downfall is inevitable like Rome and other past civilizations.
When are the egos and grandstanding going to stop and get to the business of alleviating the problems and work on solutions.
You can't alleviate a problem when one side's perception of it - regardless of what it is - is "you're a nazi," and their solution to it is "you must be eliminated."
(Pay no mind to their cognitive dissonance in that regard. They sure don't.)
If there's one thing to thank Team Donald for, it's for teaching the American Right to look at those kinds of people and just laugh right in their faces. Troll them mercilessly as they wind themselves into pretzels, scream at the sky, and self-destruct.
Like this clown: https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1961100914665861442
It's not hard to beclown a leftist. You just repeat back to them what they just said. For example:
https://x.com/NelisonDarin/status/1960861423908872701
The culture war - this civil war one might call it - is not going to be won with guns or a national divorce or protests or government reform. It's going to be won by the Right raucously, derisively laughing in the Left's face every single time they further humiliate themselves with the sheer idiocy of their own beliefs.
And it's working, because they no longer have the mainstream media with whom to hide behind and gaslight and control the narrative.
Climate change: we're laughing at you.
LGBT: we're laughing at you.
Fascism wolf-cries: we're laughing at you.
Free Palestine: we're laughing at you.
Federal Judges: we're laughing at you.
Tariff handwringing: we're laughing at you.
DEI: we're laughing at you.
BLM: we're laughing at you.
ACAB: we're laughing at you.
Social Justice/Equity: we're laughing at you.
Illegal alien rationalization: we're laughing at you.
COVID hypochondria: we're laughing at you.
"Joe Biden is the picture of strength and ability": we're laughing at you.
"Kamala Harris is an intelligent and articulate woman" we're laughing at you.
I can go on like this. And on. And on. And on. And on.
They are clown world, and nobody takes them seriously anymore. Nor should they. They should all just be laughed at.
Humanity will not move forward if you cannot humble yourself for once and have some harmony and good dialogue going forward regardless of poitics.
You're exactly right. And they couldn't. Which is why there's nothing left to do but laugh at them. South Park figured this out decades ago. Hold up the mirror. The ones who laugh are the ones who get it. The ones who can't help but see their reflection and hate it are the ones incapable of said humility and ability to move forward.
So we'll laugh at them. Laugh at them every single second while they dig their own graves. Laugh at them while they crawl into it. Laugh at them as they pile the dirt on themselves.
Because what else is there to do. When you can no longer reason with someone, all you can do is laugh. Derisively, right in their face. And then laugh even harder when they get upset or swing a limp-wristed fist at you. Just keep laughing and laughing.
Because they are clowns.
And clowns want to be laughed at.
The CDC needs to be completely scrapped, kicked to the curb. The CDC has lost ALL credibility.
It should be replace with a vastly smaller agency that has much tighter constraints, much more accountability, and mandatory auditing.
Wow, all it took was firing one to get a dozen or more to quit? That worked out fantastic! One step closer to getting rid of another government agency that shouldn't even exist! Woohoo! Score.
+1 Good! That's a dozen more of you who can now go door to door telling Amish kids to get their measles vaccines on your own time! Good luck!
The CDC was already weaponized and politicized. During COVID, they said you had to stay in your house - unless you were in a BLM protest. Untested vaccines became mandatory. Nonpayment of rent quit being a no-no when they pushed an eviction ban. How is failure to pay your obligations a medical issue? Don’t forget they tried to track firearms in the home - nothing political there. Finally, you had a monkey pox czar who wouldn’t even acknowledge that it was spread by a hyper-extreme sexual lifestyle that he himself practiced. Time to clean house and replace the activists with doctors.