Trump Critics Should Stop Treating Diplomacy Like a Gift to America's Enemies
His negotiations with North Korea and Russia should be judged by their results. But opposing those talks from the beginning is a pro-war position.

Is President Donald Trump "coddl[ing] dictators"? That was what Joe Biden said when Trump met with North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un during the first Trump administration. And Democrats have begun rolling out the same lines of attack in response to Trump's summit last week with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Anchorage, Alaska.
"The fact that this meeting even took place—at the invitation of President Trump, on American soil, without Ukraine present, and with zero concessions from Russia—is an undeserved reward for Putin, who has continued to bomb Ukrainian schools and hospitals, abduct Ukrainian children, and refuse to negotiate meaningfully about an end to the horrific war he started," House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Gregory Meeks (D–N.Y.) declared. "By quite literally rolling out the red carpet, Trump has legitimized Russia's aggression and whitewashed Putin's war crimes."
In other words, Democratic critics are treating the very existence of contacts between leaders as a surrender. And by doing so, they're boxing themselves into a dangerous, pro-war position. Of course, diplomacy should be judged by its results; both the North Korean outreach and the Anchorage summit were inconclusive. But if the president can't even deign to talk to foreign rivals, then it becomes impossible to avoid or end violent conflict.
The North Korean case was particularly illustrative. Although it's easy to forget now, the risk of a nuclear war felt very real in 2017. North Korea was testing missiles capable of hitting American soil, and the U.S. military was massing forces on the Korean peninsula, as Trump advisers called for a first strike. While the meetings between Trump and Kim didn't convince North Korea to "denuclearize"—probably an impossible demand to begin with—they did cool down the situation enough to avoid an immediate conflict.
And in other cases, the Democratic criticism was incoherent on its own terms. During the first Trump administration, Biden attacked Trump for bringing the U.S. to "the brink of a major conflict across the Middle East." Then, during the 2024 election, Biden's successor Kamala Harris attacked Trump for not escalating more against Iran. After Trump bombed Iran earlier this year, Democrats had a confused and muddled response.
Some Democrats believe that their party should stop trying to out-hawk Republicans in general. House Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Adam Smith (D–Wash.) declared earlier this year that Democrats should "much more aggressively embrace diplomacy," particularly with Russia, and avoid being painted as warmongers.
In the run-up to the Anchorage summit, Smith told NewsNation that "I don't think it's particularly bad that they have the conversation. What's bad, to date, is that President Trump has not shown, I think, the unity behind Ukraine to really put pressure on Putin." After the summit, he called it "very disappointing" that Trump moved away from his demand for an immediate ceasefire.
Indeed, Trump told reporters on Monday that "I don't think you'd need a ceasefire" because "we're working on a peace deal while they're fighting" and "we're not talking about a two-year peace and then we end up in this mess again."
The offer that appears to be on the table is a land-for-peace swap between Russia and Ukraine. Putin reportedly offered to withdraw from the Ukrainian border regions of Sumy and Kharkiv in exchange for Ukraine giving up the rest of Donetsk Oblast, which Russia claims as its own. According to The Times, the Trump administration has discussed a way for Ukraine to give up Donetsk without formally letting Russia annex it: putting it under an autonomous administration modeled off the Palestinian Authority under Israeli control.
U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff also said after the summit that Putin agreed that Ukraine could have international security guarantees. Sources who spoke to Reuters were more cautious, stating that Putin wanted Ukraine to be barred from NATO but seemed "open to Ukraine receiving some kind of security guarantees." An adviser to Trump told Axios that the guarantees might include U.S. troops in Ukraine.
These are all very serious issues worthy of public debate, particularly the prospect of putting American peacekeepers in another conflict zone. That's exactly why the debate cannot stop at Meeks' complaints about "rolling out the red carpet" for Putin. There may be better or worse strategies to end the war—but refusing to talk is no strategy at all.
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…but refusing to talk is no strategy at all.
Correct.
Also, please in the future, do not reference the opinions of Joe Biden.
Trump surrendered to the Taliban after the McMaster and the Military Industrial Complex manipulated him for the first 3 years. Better to grow a pair of balls after age 70 than to never grow balls at all! 😉
Parody.
Trump hates war…and so he surrendered to the Taliban to end the war. Biden was tasked with getting Ghani to accept a provisional government with the Taliban in charge which failed.
Cite, with links?
"Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."
Links, asshole.
I didn’t think you could link on this website. But it says right there how to find the McMaster podcast. But McMaster said it on Rogan and lot of other places.
Yes, you can link here.
You can’t type “McMaster surrender Doha”? Are you worried you will get deported or something??
You're the one making the assertion. Back it up with a link. I'm not doing your work for you.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-taliban-peace-deal-us-withdrawal-b1907241.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-taliban-peace-deal-us-withdrawal-b1907241.html
Uh, that was a withdrawal agreement which TDS-addled slimy piles of lefty shit like you re-defined and a "surrender", sort of like negotiating with Kim is 'cozying up to him'.
And then your fave slobbering Joe did 'surrender' by arrogating the agreement and leaving all that expensive hardware behind.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
McMaster called it a “surrender”. Are you a McMaster fan?? That makes you a Lizard Cheney fan!! McMaster is an assclown and it was a surrender…but it was the correct decision!!
Sorry shrike, but an organized ceasefire and withdrawl isn’t a “surrender”, no matter how many times you try to paint it as such.
Take it up with McMaster.
"Take it up with McMaster."
Repeating a lie makes you the liar, slimy pile of lying lefty shit.
Fuck off and die.
Should Isreal accept a surrender agreement with Hamas or keep the war going?
Do I really care what McMaster thinks?
No.
It's great to Monday morning quarter back an end of a war, but what did McMaster contribute that would have made the outcome different?
No one cares what McMaster thinks or says. He is disgruntled because he was fired.
You should know that Biden refused to listen to his Generals, according to statements made by his Generals, when he decided to pull America out of Afghanistan.
Biden's plan was in no way how Trump had planned to exit Afghanistan including giving up Bagram Air Base and the billions in equipment.
Why does no one cite the obvious libertarian third option, which is to stay out of the conflict altogether and let them work it out. There is no real reason for the US government to be involved, other than its members strong desire to manipulate the rest of the world, just as it does with its own citizens. It's time for the US government to give up its bullying interference.
Unfortunately , since the rest of the civilized world are largely sniveling weak socialists, they haven’t the drive or ability
to stand up to China and Russia.
Trump does not stand up to Russia. Trump is a Russian asset.
Cite? And don't bother with the highly discredited Steele Dossier.
I'm so happy you're on team jeffsarc.
Sure he is, you vapid faggot. That’s why Putin didn’t do shit while Trump was president, but he played Obama and Biden for chumps. Oh, and your precious ‘Steele Dossier’ was a fiction that might bring treason charges against many of your Democrat masters.
Now fuck off, m’kay, the adults are talking.
There's Molly still full of shit.
By stand up to them do you mean give China AI chips, and to willingly give Putin the land and denial into NATO he wants?!?
Fucking MAGA idiots. Biden or NATO should have sent troops the moment Russia started amassing troops along that border. The VERY moment they started!
I am shocked. A pro war liberal. And false talk about China after attacking every action against China lol. Almost like liberals have no principles.
Maybe Biden and NATO thought it would be another quagmire if they did.
freedomwriter
Why is it that lying piles of steaming lefty shit adopt oh, so, precious handles for themselves?
Do they hope we won't read the drivel they post?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Sending weapons to one side, totally not libertarian. Getting both sides to talk, even through an intermediary isn't necessarily non-libertarian. Sure, cutting a deal with one side might sit with weapons but it doesn't have to
Did the US not promise to protect Ukraine in the 90's for giving up nuclear weapons?
Should have sent troops before Russia even invaded! While they were amassing troops al;ong the border! How the fuck is Russia allowed to invade anyone in the 2020s?
Fuck off, neocon.
No, they promised not to start a war with the Ukraine.
That promise was kept.
And the reason for this agreement was to ensure that the Ukraine would not give nukes to Iraq or North Korea.
Yes we did.
Except the Budapest Memorandum was not a treaty, as it wasn't approved by the Senate. All treaties require Senate approval, per the US Constitution.
Yes you are correct. Obama failed and Biden did his best which is what he is known for, fucking everything up worse.
We are not involved. We are acting as a counselor to help end this dispute.
Hopefully we won't get involved in any meaningful way.
That's been my preferred option all along. And the one I had hoped Trump would choose.
Same for me.
They met in ALASKA. Russians, knowing how easily Trump can be baited, joked that maybe Putin could get Alaska back. That didn't quite happen, but he did get Ukraine. Trump left open Putin's demand that territory gained by unprovoked aggression become Russian; that Zelenskyy resign; and that whatever then remained of Ukraine become a Russian protectorate. IOW, just as before, Russia will still not declare peace until Ukraine surrenders, but at least there will be fewer immediate casualties, and Trump will get "Little Marco" to nominate him for Nobel.
Amazing how ignorant to the entire conflict you are. Even pushing the liberal media narrative about returning Alaska to Russia. Lol.
God damn.
This was always about Donbas and access yo through black Sea as known day one. The region that voted to succeed to Russia.
But youd rather spend tens of billions and 10s of thousands on a war.
TDS-addled globalist-Marxist warmongering scum. Today's Democrat party.
Republicans in Congress voted Lizard Cheney into House leadership in January 2021…Republicans thought DeSantis/Haley would be in the White House now with Cheney as Speaker.
Go outside and get some fresh air and sunshine,
You are a DeSantis voter!! His skank wife ran the show !! Lololololol!!!
Are you retarded or something?
DeSantis was very popular with high school girls…except it was after he graduated from college. Oops.
Got a cite and a link?
The only thing you TDS-addled fucktards have is unsubstantiated personal attacks. Because your policy sucks.
Do you need to ask?
LOL you're retarded. Russia attacked Kiev and Sumy. That's not about Donbass or access to the sea. Russia has been stirring up shit in Transnistria and threatening the Baltics. That's not about Donbass or access to the sea.
What the war is really about is Putin wants to be the next Peter the Great. He wants to take as much land as he can and he doesn't care how many cities his storm troopers rape and kill their way through. And he doesn't even give a shit about his own, sending cripples limping to the front.
I'll take Churchill over Chamberlain. Giving him the Sudetenland, I mean, Donbass wouldn't end his ambitions.
And shrikes sock remains completely retarded despite constant messaging from Russia. Lol.
Even in the talks this weekend they discussed land east of the donbass River retard.
God damn shrike. Put down the child porn and try educating yourself.
Transnistria broke away from Moldova fearing that the former territory of Romania would rejoin the land of Ștefan cel Mare after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and USSR. It is predominantly Slavic and not Latin like the other two states. One of those states suspended elections and the other had late night votes come in graphing near identical to Biden’s in 2020 to preserve their regime headed by the American trained Sandu.
Gladly he has failed to gain an inch the last yearish and his people will not sustain much more of their people dying when their economy completely collapses.
Putin knows he is on a thin line and yes an agreement will cede some of the lands Putin wants to Russia. But nothing like he expected to take control of and this agreement will allow Ukraine to be stronger than ever once it is signed and to exist while hopefully getting it's children back.
Regardless of what you think, which is wrong, what Russia wants or needs.
Then why do you faggots, through your Marxist master Obama, sit idly by and let them invade in 2014?
Time is linear…Ukraine had to root out corruption or else we could give them weapons and they would end up in Russia’s hands like Bush and Trump did with the Taliban. Oops.
Root out corruption? When was the last time they had a presidential election?
I see a grey box has appeared beneath my comment. It’s probably just some retarded babbling by a soyboy beta male retard. Who likely cam on,y get it up for small children.
Hickamore
"They met in ALASKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Does the slimy pile of TDS-addled lying lefty shit have to connect the dots for us!?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Russians didn't say that - you Leftists were screeching that that was what he might do.
And you totally weren't insane over the Sweeney add too.
"unprovoked"?
""that Zelenskyy resign""
He's not winning the war. Maybe he should. Or at least hold an election and let the people decide.
Yeah because you could have led the world to peace and victory over the evil aggression of governments around the world.
Piss off shit stain. You are an idiot.
Putin got nothing from Trump except the chance to talk. What you think Putin got was not Trump's to give. Nor did Trump promise it.
Democrats should "much more aggressively embrace diplomacy," particularly with Russia, and avoid being painted as warmongers
D's should probably stop thinking that there is a policy way out of their problems and start thinking more about forcing their incumbent gerontocrats into the various woke pronouns. If they can't find more 80 year old Korean (it/those) lesbians, then they need to hand over the reins to 40 year old Korean (mi/all) lesbians.
That made me chuckle. Thanks.
Stop all taxpayer funding of that autocratic dictator in Kiev. And no more color revolutions.
Trump to media sitting next to big z.
Breaking911
@Breaking911
TRUMP: "During the war you can't have elections? So let me just see, 3 & a half years from now, if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections?"
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1957498850786283617
Even Lincoln had an election during ACW 1.0. The Big Guy was cool with it because he was assistant manager during the color revolution and then in charge during the breaking of Minsk 2.
He's a dictator because the Ukraine constitution suspends elections during martial law and Parliament voted for martial law because the country was invaded? LOL
He is a puppet dictator propped up by western nations wanting an ROI on their color revolution. The bright and shiny land/resource grab when they supported breaking Minsk 2 has dimmed quite a bit. Even the US had elections during the ACW. WW2. Vietnam. Etc.
If you like Zely so much, you can give at:
https://www.ildu.com.ua/
Very quaint that you equate Vietnam and WWII, or even the Civil War with what Ukraine is dealing with. 20% of its territory is occupied, another swath of land is under direct bonbardment at the line of contact and millions of its citizens are scattered across the globe as refugees. How do you run an election under those conditions? Nevermind that every voting location becomes a target for Russian missles and drones.
If you think Zelenskyy is more of a dictator than Putin, then that’s on you. You obviously have an agenda of some kind and are not objectively assessing the situation.
Russia had elections in 2024 and Putin won. The globohomo hegemony bandera sympathizer puppet dictator in Kiev did not. The areas of Donbas and Lugansk were Russian until a Georgian transferred them to the Ukraine SSR. The people wanted more autonomy, not unlike Kosovo, but globohomo instead supported shelling them for 7+ years after breaking agreements.
If you want to send money to or volunteer for Zely, you are free to do so. Best to avoid taxpayer dollars and DoS/CIA color revolutions. It further devalued the dollar and puts the risk of blowback into play.
I actually thought that JesseAZov was a russian asset, but Chumbski? Never cease to learn.
Shrike is a Bidenesque MAPedo with such a big ego and low self esteem that he needs to multi sock puppet. A pathetic creature that supports the current globohomo thing.
I hold out hope that one of his victim’s fathers will deal with him in the same manner Gerard Butler did with the child rapist/murderer in ‘Law Abiding Citizen’. With the only difference that Shrike would be kept alive for weeks before being allowed to die.
Well, at least the perception of an election.
Russia had elections in 2024 and Putin won. The globohomo hegemony bandera sympathizer puppet dictator in Kiev did not. The areas of Donbas and Lugansk were Russian until a Georgian transferred them to the Ukraine SSR.
Ludicrous as expected.
a) Russian elections are a farce. Anyone significant that actually opposes Putin gets jailed or murdered.
b) The history of Ukraine is a lot more complicated than you present it. There were Ukrainian nationalist movements dating to the 19th century, and it was a common thread throughout the Russian Empire's history to "Russify" the outlying parts of the empire that were not ethnically or linguistically Russian. That "Georgian" that I assume you're talking about, Stalin, actually implemented that kind of plan, including starving millions of Ukrainians to death. The borders of Ukrainian SSR were set by 1921, before Stalin fully took control of the Soviet Union, by the way.
Census figures show even the Donetsk and Luhansk* as being majority ethnic Ukrainian overall prior to 2014. Though a large majority spoke Russian as their first language.
*You're giving a lot away by calling it Lugansk. That seems to be the romanized version of the name derived from Russian, with Luhansk being the official Ukrainian spelling going back to 1990. No doubt this is a small way for you to show support for Russia in this war.
This is you polishing Lindsay Graham’s warboner ludicrous.
My Cyrillic keyboard is not compatible with the Reason comments. I can and have posted in German and Romanian.
It was part of the Russian empire until the fall of the tsar. More in that region lean east than towards the color revolution benefactor puppet dictator in Kiev operating beyond elections. The region wanted more autonomy per Minsk 2 and Kiev responded by attacking. This is the Kosovo model except the globohomos rejected it this time.
Stop US involvement in other nations’ affairs. It will save lives and coin.
Minsk II, like the first Minsk agreement, suffered from the fatal flaw of pretending that Russia was not a party to the conflict. Rather, they were 'mediators' between the Ukrainian government in Kyiv and the Donetsk and Luhansk separatists. That pretense meant that Minsk II didn't require Russia to make any concessions regarding the things it said it wasn't doing, but that everyone knew it was doing.
The region wanted more autonomy per Minsk 2 and Kiev responded by attacking.
From what I can find, the ceasefire in Minsk II never completely held. Particularly, the separatists/Russian forces had declared that Debaltseve wasn't part of the ceasefire, and continued to squeeze it until Ukrainian forces were forced to retreat 3 days after the cease fire was supposed to have begun.
My Cyrillic keyboard is not compatible with the Reason comments.
Huh, so I was right all along that you were either a Russian troll or bot?
JasonT20 is a slimy pile of murderous lefty shit:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Very quaint that you equate Vietnam and WWII, or even the Civil War with what Ukraine is dealing with.
LOL
Nevermind that every voting location becomes a target for Russian missles and drones.
You say that like Russia is the one that blew up NS1 and 2 or exploited Ukraine's civilian infrastructure in order to attack their opposition. Your cheerleading of the subversion of democracy, not just within Ukraine, is only rivaled by your ignorance of history and the world around you.
Look at shrike defend no elections. How quaint.
Imagine the U.S. in a war where several U.S. cities were being bombed almost daily. Do you really think we'd hold national elections while that was happening?
Let me know whether you think that the UK could have held national elections during the Blitz.
We have held elections even when American troops were in combat and after Pearl Harbor was bombed.
Yes. But I look forward to you explaining why we shouldn’t.
Who cares what a slimy pile of murderous lefty shit thinks?
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
By demanding a ceasefire the EU/Ukraine talking point is that they can't negotiate a peace deal while there's a war going on. It takes some serious doublethink to make that logic work.
It works for Hamas. They are learning from them.
Wait, what bloodshed is unacceptable?? You wanted Afghanistan to continue another 10 years and you want Israel to continue fighting in Gaza and you supported Trump in Yemen…so it looks like dead Muslims is an acceptable outcome of war while you don’t want dead Christians. Hmmm
This TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit is a fucking ignoramus, ain't s/he?
Shhhh…I don’t care about Muslims.
This lefty TDS-addled lying pile of shit is a fucking ignoramus, ain't s/he?
I’ll bet the grey box right beneath you works for Hamas too.
He does support their pedophilia for sure.
He once showed up on Reason’s twitter’s feed and they even once retired one of his accounts, or at least how the 88 IQ turd recollects it.
Yup, they are duped by Hamas propaganda as are many in the US
They can’t. What if NATO soldiers are in a DMZ and Russia kills one of them??
Disown them as they 1) shouldn't be there, and 2) they most likely are not Americans. Let Europe fight its own goddamn wars.
Trump wants a Nobel…if Putin agrees to not fire on them as part of a peace deal then you put them there.
Btw, an American president saying we won’t honor Article 5 is super dumb…the time to not honor Article 5 is after Europe is attacked! What if we get attacked before Europe…then we say would always honor Article 5!! Trump’s an idiot.
This TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit assumes aid from the euro-trash would be other than a waste in defending the US.
SBF is a fucking ignoramus, ain't s/he?
Trump expanded NATO…oops.
Cite missing, asswipe.
North Macedonia..oops.
Cite missing, asswipe.
HAHAHA angry white man
^?
Oh, now I've seen more of your lefty twaddle. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Hey Petti, haven’t you figured it out yet? Decorate are vicious warmongers, and always have been.
Newsflash: TDS is more much more dangerous than it is comical. It’s why this rag shouldn’t partake in it
TDS is a mental illness manifested in MAGAs where they believe anything Trump says and will defend him no matter what. Facts and laws be damned.
You sound as retarded as Sarc. Get your 40s from the same liquor store?
"Facts and laws be damned" is definitely the sentence you say to yourself right before you click "Submit" on every post.
Facts like the Russian collusion hoax, the fine people hoax, Jussie Smollett hoax, The Russian pee tape hoax, the Hunter Biden Russian disinformation hoax, the Trump Bible photo op hoax, the border patrol on horse back whipping illegals like slaves hoax, and so many of what the left wing media and the democrats constantly told the people were true facts that all turned out to be democrat lies?
Yeah you damned them alright. It is comical even though the truth has debunked all your "facts" you still carry them like a badge of honor!
Be Strong! Hold strong to your truth even if everyone else knows it's lies and call you out. Defy reality and be a legend in your own mind.
tReason defending Trump? Nope. This article doesn’t exist.
And you've got one of the worst cases of TDS I've ever seen, topped with a serious case of JDS.
=D
Sarc has a Ukraine flag on the outside of his cardboard box.
Still rocking this strawman to pretend you're not a leftist hypocrite?
Donald Trump's failed summit with Vladimir Putin backfires in horrifying fashion as Russian forces are spotted riding into battle in Ukraine with American flags flying from their vehicles.
And it gets so much worse....
Russian state media broadcast footage of Russian troops racing into battle inside a captured American M113 Armored Personnel Carrier with the U.S. flag flapping beside the Russian flag. RT, the outlet that aired the humiliating footage, described the vehicle as a "trophy." The footage was captured near Mala Tokmachka in the Zaporizhzhia region in Southeast Ukraine.
The old out of date vehicle given to Ukraine under biden?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/12/05/the-m-113-troop-carrier-is-old-and-lightly-armored-its-also-helping-ukraine-win-the-war-with-russia/
Could have at least pretended it was the Abrams tank lost under Biden to blame on Trump.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-study-captured-american-abrams-tank
But guess that doesn't help your retarded narrative.
There us a temporary outdoor museum in Moscow of the different NAFO vehicles that have been captured. Recall seeing Abrams, Leopard, and Challenger tanks.
Wouldn't be shocked if we found out a corrupt Ukranian general sold it to Russia.
There is an aircraft museum in McMinnville, OR, including the spruce goose and a (suspect - steam gauges?) SR71.
It does have a Soviet re-entry vehicle and on asking a docent, he claimed they bought it off of e-bay.
E-bay: Where corrupt post-Soviet officials fence goodies!
They sold off assets as the collectivist system failed. NASA ended up buying a large number of rocket motors (NK-33).
One of the larger firearms stores in the region bought a MiG 21 and has it on display.
Looks like a MiG 23 had a private sale at one point:
https://www.aircraft.com/aircraft/29931259/n23ub-1981-mikoyan-mig-23ub
Why wouldn't the SR71 have steam gauges? It's era was LONG before glass cockpits were even an engineer's wet dream. First flight was mid-60s, and they didn't upgrade the front cockpit. Back seat got an MFD, but it was very much 70s tech. Big mechanical buttons around a little green screen that looks like they stole it from a Kaypro computer.
I am sure it is genuine. There's an A12 in front of the San Diego Air and Space museum that's genuine. SR71 in Dayton that's genuine. Several other blackbirds ended up as museum displays.
+1 for Kaypro. Ctrl KD to print from it in Wordstar.
Seriously? The M113? Do.you even know what that is?
It's a tracked personnel carrier. It was obsolete 30 years ago. The HMMWV is effectively it's modern replacement.
Trump met with Kim twice and got nothing, while Kim got out of isolation and a propaganda bonanza.
Trump met with Putin and got nothing. Putin got isolation and a propaganda bonanza. Now Trump is taking Russia's side in the conflict.
In both cases Trump got nothing and the other side got what they wanted.
Trump got a handjibber from a man with delicate and soft hands like a woman. Pussy is pussy!!
You gave Trump a handy? Isn’t he several generations too old for you?
Sam, no matter how hard you simp, Molly isn't going to fuck you.
You never know, once two incels are far enough along they tend to migrate to each other. It seems this pattern is occurring here online. It's just a matter of time before they bump uglies and fall in love.
Russian biggest profit during this conflict has been energy supplies to the EU due to your green energy policies lol.
Nope, America had taken Russia’s natural gas market share in Europe…and now Gazprom is heading to bankruptcy after record profits in 2022.
Cite?
Russia's state-controlled gas giant Gazprom (GAZP.MM), opens new tab recorded a net loss of 1.076 trillion roubles ($12.89 billion) in 2024 under Russian accounting standards (RAS), Interfax news agency reported.
In 2023 the company reported net profit of 695.6 billion roubles under RAS.
Link?
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-gazprom-returns-annual-profit-2024-earning-148-billion-2025-04-30/
Profitable in 2024 after losses in 2023. The Interfax report was about a month earlier.
Nope, they are engaging in accounting asshattery.
Reuters reported both. The first report was asshattery?
Your first account was banned here.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germanys-Imports-of-Russian-LNG-From-Other-EU-Ports-Jump.html
Like turd, you don't seem to read your own cites. That says nothing about your claim "America had taken Russia’s natural gas market share in Europe".
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Biden engineered it…Biden made America energy dominant after Trump bankrupted the fracking industry in 2020.
You'd be better off spewing your lies somewhere that people are completely uninformed, like Cuba, where there is no internet access. And you should fit right in being a commie fool.
I recall Kim stopped shooting missiles at Guam for a while. That's not nothing.
It is true that North Korea did not shoot any missiles at Guam after Kim's meeting with Trump...because they never shot missiles at Guam.
I'll just leave these here.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/asia/north-korea-missile-defense-guam/index.html
And they've already done it over Japan.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63126534
So you, uh, want to revise your comment, Dr. Retard?
Nope. DPRK has not shot missiles to Guam.
Cherry picking; they stopped shooting at all after that meeting, but TDS-addled lying piles of lefty shit like you will pick any cherry you can find.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Democrats are moving towards support of North Korea. The DSA own the party and Tony is nothing if not happily owned by other, better people.
The DSA is full of barely human mesomorphs...but they are better than Tony.
Trump loves dictators like himself. And he might sell out America's allies for some property deals.
Fu Manchu love TDS-addled lying piles of lefty shit like him/herself, and lies about Trump.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Poor retarded shrike.
The left really is full of retards.
Shrike loves himself some dictators. Or more specifically, the tate of dict.
Now let's do Obama and Biden diplomacy...
Trump did not get Kim out of isolation. Kim's kissing the ass of China and Russia and Iran did.
"Trump Critics Should Stop Treating Diplomacy Like a Gift to America's Enemies"
Next, you're going to ask slimy piles of TDS-addled shits like SBF and MG to get over it!
Too bad the author sees the Abraham accords as a destabilizing call to war.
Finally, a coherent, non TDS Reason article.
Have to say I agree.
But opposing those talks from the beginning is a pro-war position.
Well, duh. Of course they're pro-war. Haven't you been paying attention for the last couple of centuries?
ngl, I was kinda hoping that the end-result of this would be both Putin and Zelensky naked and chained to the floor in a blacksite while we start carpet bombing their respective garbage nations.
And maybe only offer news coverage of us doing so in Iranian and Chinese.
One of them was the invader, just in case that issue was lost on you.
A crackhead beat up a stoner.
Who should I side with?
Neither. They're both degenerate punks.
I see; moral issues are a mystery to you.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Actually, I'd posit that they're an issue with you.
But I'll entertain your position for the moment, assuming you're willing to answer the question. Who do you side with?
I suspect you're falling into the moral trap that Marxists set. A wrongs B, therefore A is doing something evil and B should therefore automatically be defended as good. It's dumb, pedestrian thinking from intellectually challenged retards - but it's an easy trap to fall for. But it doesn't take into account that B might actually be a scumbag and that, while what A does to B is awful, it doesn't make B any less a scumbag. (Nor, for the record, does it somehow rationalize A's actions against B.)
This is why Marxists struggle with people who take the simultaneous position: "I do not want to see an illegal alien shot at the border" and "I do not want that same illegal alien scumbag inside the border, let alone in my city or neighborhood." They can't wrap their tiny little pea brains around it all.
A crackhead beat up a stoner. Which of those two disgusting unwanted social-pox scumbags pieces of absolute garbage are you siding with?
You're allowed to say neither. You are ALLOWED to side against garbage in ALL its forms.
Maybe nobody ever told you that before. I'm telling you now.
"I suspect you're falling into the moral trap that Marxists set. A wrongs B, therefore A is doing something evil and B should therefore automatically be defended as good. It's dumb, pedestrian thinking from intellectually challenged retards - but it's an easy trap to fall for..."
I do not "suspect", but know you are not real bright as the above shows.
In a country where you have judgment by public opinion, it's normal to have tribalistic tendencies like "a wronged b, so b is to be defended as good". Americans are mentally underdeveloped for a reason. If they weren't, they wouldn't be the wilfully spineless, corporate slaves they are. They have no dignity.
Had someone tell me they can't afford anything because "we have hospital bills and student loans to pay right now". I bet that same retard is really into anglo style capitalism and probably rejoiced at trumps inauguration. While Europeans eyeroll and laugh at both of these "bills".
5.56 is mentally deranged for a reason. S/he is a worthless pile of slimy, lying lefty shit who needs to fuck off and die.
It appears you are so blatantly jealous you'd do anything to be American. Sorry the border is closed now. Otherwise it would be a good picture seeing your face as you are taken from Alligator Alcatraz and deported back to Venezuela.
The first step to understanding Democrats is to realize 'Democracy' alone is nothing but [WE] Identify-as RULES!
With the amount of gangland crime (i.e. Gov-Gun Theft) they've been allowed to commit they are literally nothing but a typical Chicago hoodie-gang out to show the world their gang RULES.
Doesn't matter what the subject is. Doesn't matter what the crime is. Doesn't matter what war. The only thing that matters is their gang RULES! All other entities must be conquered and consumed.
It is literally a consequence of worshiping '?Our? Democracy' over a *Constitutional* Republic. No Supreme Law of ethics. Just gangland RULES politics. Most of what is seen in politics / government in the USA is but a consequence of this.
They can not, Petti. These are not rational people. They have been subsumed into an egregore and all it knows is 'hate Trump'.
Not even the reflexive Obama-haters were this crazed.
The real diplomacy is always the American taxpayers' checkbook anyway.
Dialog is always better that not talking and simply having both sides assuming the others concerns, goals, and realities. Regardless of how despicable a party may be, there is always some common ground to build upon.
As frustrating at Trump may be, he is the only president in my lifetime who had unabashedly been willing to talk.
The argument that talking to a tyrant only elevates them is specious and frankly war mongering. It takes an incredibly naive and stupid person make the completely illogical argument.
^ This
It takes a *TDS-addled, lying, imbecilic* person make the completely illogical argument.
It makes sense in their worldview.
That’s the same reason they cut out friends and family for wrongthink.
Here's one Reason won't dare touch:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senior-israeli-official-arrested-vegas-pedophile-sting-released-and-flies-home
These are God's chosen people and....you're not!
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit-pile.
Tell me you think you know the Bible when you do not.
God did some really bad stuff to the Jews in the Old Testament.
In other words, Democratic critics are treating the very existence of contacts between leaders as a surrender. And by doing so, they're boxing themselves into a dangerous, pro-war position. Of course, diplomacy should be judged by its results; both the North Korean outreach and the Anchorage summit were inconclusive. But if the president can't even deign to talk to foreign rivals, then it becomes impossible to avoid or end violent conflict.
Uh, no they aren't. The entire statement from the Democrat House member, that Petti quoted at length, was about the manner in which Putin was greeted and where the discussions took place. Nowhere did he say that Trump shouldn't be talking to Putin at all.
Diplomacy absolutely should be judged by results. In regards to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the results will be not just how the conflict resolves over the next couple of years (if it is resolved by then). The results will be how stable that resolution is over the next couple of decades. Putin won't live forever, but he's 72, not 79, and he is not term limited. And Russia's attempts to militarily dominate its neighbors, including through invasion, could continue past Putin's time in power.
I do remember the old Vulcan proverb, "Only Nixon could go to China." The U.S. President meeting, in person, the leader of an obviously adversarial nation can be good diplomacy. Time will provide the evidence to prove whether Trump inviting Putin to meet in Alaska was a good move or whether he was conned and played.
In my view, in the short term, I would agree with the critics that it looks like Putin got something out of this meeting without giving anything up. He got to be on stage with Trump as an equal, despite being considered a pariah and war criminal by most of the free world. He got images and footage he could use at home showing the Russian people how Trump greeted him and listened to him. Putin gave up...nothing.
I think that the short term results of this meeting made getting positive long term results more difficult.
^ This steaming pile of lefty shit supports government murder of innocent people:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
What you (or I think in not important). Whether the killing stops is important. We'll have to wait to se whether than happens this year or whether this war drags on for a few more years.
Putin came as a leader with 3000 nuclear weapons and a modernized ICBM force. He has been building a new global coalition, BRICS +the DPRK. Trump gave him nothing that he did not already have.
He also seemed to acknowledge that Ukraine would get security guarantees from the EU+UK+US. That is not nothing. Again, we'll have to see that in a peace deal.
They way you talk about diplomacy sounds like a guy praising premature ejaculation.
“The entire statement from the Democrat House member, that Petti quoted at length, was about the manner in which Putin was greeted and where the discussions took place.”
Ahh, so we’re back to opposing the style over the substance. Well that didn’t take long.
Dems did not do it first so they claim no one else can? WTF is wrong with democrats? I think they are simply stupid and there's no fixing stupid.
Democrat voters need to somehow realize how horribly out of touch, lazy, ineffective and unintelligent their elected officials really are. They somehow do not have any capacity for original thought and no critical thinking skills.
How can Senator Fetterman be the only sensible democrat? And only because he had a stroke that seemed to make him more sensible?
""Democrat voters need to somehow realize how horribly out of touch, lazy, ineffective and unintelligent their elected officials really are. ""
Don't think of the details, just hate on Trump.
This was literally the strategy of the last dem candidate for president.
I get it. It has been this way since their lord Obama started spewing hate and division.
The lame stream media is to be blamed for gaslighting the gullible and naive. But these folks have realized they were gaslit and lied too. They know what has occurred.
There's no shame in admitting they were wrong and moving on. They don't have to be Trump supporters to stop being delusional TDS fools.
Certainly sticking their heads in the ground is a better action for them than still regurgitating the debunked lies and following those they know to have blatantly lied to them?
The old fool me once shame on them fool me twice shame on me analogy has become fool me 35 times and I am still going to be a fool because I refuse to admit I was lied too?
No I think they really are too stupid to even understand this.
Using the term "nazi" has lost whatever meaning it once had. It has been overused to the point of being meaningless as well as non sequitur.
It is also the response of the illiterate.
The whole diplomacy thing is suspect right from the start. From one point of view, United States officials should stay strictly away from meddling in international affairs. Although it is possible - even likely - that conflicts between other entities may spill over into direct and immediate threats to the United States, the less meddling we engage in the less likely those imminent threats will be in my opinion. The problem as I see it is that we make ourselves targets in the first place by throwing our weight around all over the world using "vital national interests" as an excuse; and "making the world safe for democracy" as some kind of moral high ground. American history is chock full of examples where meddling directly led to our being attacked militarily, not the least of which was attempting to deny the Empire of Japan access to fuel sources to punish them for the Rape of Nanking, which led directly to the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. We may not be able to avoid having to defend ourselves militarily in the future, but the theory that we reduce those risks or foster incipient democratic republics by preemptive interventions is highly questionable.
From one point of view, United States officials should stay strictly away from meddling in international affairs. Although it is possible - even likely - that conflicts between other entities may spill over into direct and immediate threats to the United States, the less meddling we engage in the less likely those imminent threats will be in my opinion.
Isolationism just doesn't work. The world is just too interconnected now for this to be a viable foreign policy, if it ever was. If nothing else, international trade and geopolitics are not separable.
Edit: I recognize some of the things you identify as problems and share some of those concerns. The solution is to find a better way to interact on the world stage and work with the other players, not to try and get off of it.