Immigration Raids Are Ensnaring Innocent, Legal Bystanders
That's inevitable. It should also be deeply troubling to anyone who cares about constitutional government.

Years ago, I drove through a Border Patrol station along a Southern California freeway in my little sports car. As a white guy in a Navy blazer, I wasn't surprised that the agents immediately waved me along—even as they questioned the Latino drivers around me, searched their trunks and thoroughly inspected their vehicles. I clearly didn't fit the profile of an illegal immigrant or Mexican drug smuggler.
By contrast, one time that I flew with my mom, whose 90-year-old body has its share of metal implants, TSA agents examined her as if she might be the member of a sleeper cell. It's just how it goes in TSA's Security Theater—although once I was diverted to a "random" line for extra vetting and noticed that I appeared to be the only person in line who didn't look Middle Eastern. What a coincidence.
My Border Patrol story reinforces an obvious point I've made to some of my Trump-supporting friends: The government almost certainly will use profiling to target criminal aliens, gang-bangers and even garden-variety illegal immigrants. Sometimes, liberal activists act as if racial/ethnic disparities in any given area necessarily prove racial discrimination. That's not always the case, but ethnic profiling always goes hand-in-hand with immigration enforcement.
As such, I've been appalled, but not surprised, by some of the stories emanating from the administration's high-profile immigration raids throughout the country. In one recent raid in Montebello, Border Patrol agents—masked and driving an unmarked SUV—descended on a parking lot and detained a local man.
"One agent soon twisted Jason Brian Gavidia's arm and pressed him against a black metal fence outside the lot where he runs an auto body shop," according to The New York Times. "Another officer then asked him an unusual question…'What hospital were you born at?'…He did not know the hospital's name. 'I was born here,' he shouted at the agent, adding, 'I'm an American, bro!'" I don't know about you, but I couldn't instantly tell you the name of the hospital where I was born.
The agents ultimately released him, but confiscated his driver's license. There's a lot wrong with this picture. In a constitutional republic, armed officers should not be wearing face masks as if they are members of some third-world paramilitary organization. There's no reason for that unless they are behaving in a manner that skirts the boundaries of the law.
Civilian policing is the norm in free countries for obvious reasons. If you're walking down the street and a gang of masked, armed men jumps out of an unmarked vehicle and abducts you, how do you know they're legitimate officers and not bandits or kidnappers?
The facemask issue is an argument for another day. It's a debate we'll soon have in the California Legislature, as two lawmakers recently proposed a bill that would ban law-enforcement officials from concealing their faces while on duty. Today, the focus is on the profiling aspect of the ongoing immigration raids. If the feds are sending swarms of officers into the field to round up illegal immigrants, they almost certainly will end up questioning, detaining and harassing people who look like they might be here illegally—but aren't.
As The Guardian reported, "A co-founder of a group for Latinas who supported Donald Trump has excoriated the president on some of the immigration-related arrests being carried out by his administration, which she called 'unacceptable and inhumane.'" The article noted her X post: "This is not what we voted for." She's right about the nature of many of the arrests, but what exactly did she think she voted for given that candidate Trump promised to do exactly what his administration is doing?
A number of Trump-voting business owners and farmers who have had ICE agents whisk away part of their work force have made similar points. Same with people who have had family members deported—sometimes after they were "disappeared" in broad daylight, with no notification to loved ones. They didn't expect their workers and loved ones to get nabbed. Frankly, they are among the least sympathetic opponents of the raids. They voted for these policies—and only seem upset now that it's affecting them and not just other people.
The end result of these sweeps: All Americans—and especially those with darker skin—need to always carry our papers. The Fourth Amendment is clear: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated." Then again, the administration isn't keen on the due-process concept either, which simply requires the government to prove its case before it sends you to a gulag in El Salvador.
If you're not upset by these developments, then I suppose you just don't fit the profile of an American who cares much about the Constitution.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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“As a white guy in a navy blazer, I wasn’t surprised the agents immediately waved me along.”
What an insufferable little prick.
God I wish the cops still used fire hoses and German shepherds.
I would be happy to give Greenhut the border experience he craves.
"In a constitutional republic, armed officers should not be wearing face masks as if they are members of some third-world paramilitary organization. There's no reason for that unless they are behaving in a manner that skirts the boundaries of the law."
Or unless they have wives, children, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers.
Do you really live in California and not realize there are armed gangs with thousands of members who are engaged in armed combat with all forms of authority?
Look around.
He’s a man-child living in a dream world.
How often does it happen at present with unmasked cops in LA?
Attacks on ice officers are up 500% this year. One was just shot the other day. Your leftist allies are doxxing them, going to their houses, swatting them, etc.
Fuck off shrike.
A few times a week.
Yesterday they were throwing knives at officers in Portland.
You know the amount of violence versus regular police officers, Sheriffs, etc and also know the amount of violence towards ICE agents is so much worse.
I am sure you do want to see the face of the officer you are chucking broken pieces of concrete at so you can do further harm to them but sorry you can't.
This wouldn't be an issue if you weren't attacking them, threatening their families, etc.
And even more obvious is the fact had the border not be left wide open for 4 years where these illegal violent criminals and gang members were invited in by the DNC and Biden ICE would not have to do these raids because they would not be in America needing to be removed.
Left wingers want them unmasked so they can fire their spouses and intimidate their kids.
But now they're going even further and asking gangs to attack ICE officers:
Recent news reports have focused on comments made by Cudahy Vice Mayor Cynthia Gonzalez in a now-deleted social media video. In the video, she appeared to address street gangs, asking why they were not organizing against ICE raids and stating that their "hood's being invaded by the biggest gang there is".
These comments have been widely interpreted as encouraging gangs to confront ICE agents.
Naturally other left wingers demand that ICE end masking so these efforts can be more successful.
A lot. You democrats are murderous, violent filth. You also like to SWAT people you disagree with,
Was about to ask how life is like being painfully naive.
Not naive, evil. They know the identity of these people will be used to harass or harm these people or their families because they and their friends will be part of the terror campaign.
All of that was equally true in the 70s when police successfully did their jobs without masks. Before just saying 'they have family', you have to make the case that it actually matters.
If LA would cooperate with ICE and allow them to pick up criminals from the jail, then they wouldn't have to go out into the community to get them. But, LA is a sanctuary city and refuses to do so. When ICE goes after criminals in a raid then occasionally others will be briefly detained during their investigation. If they are citizens or here legally then they will be let go. If here illegally they can be detained and deported.
Arrest and deport all in our country illegally. If someone interferes with those arrests, then arrest them as well.
Trump needs to cut off all federal funding until Bass learns to obey.
ethnic profiling always goes hand-in-hand with immigration enforcement.
If only our illegals were more diverse!
Go fuck yourself Greenhut.
although once I was diverted to a "random" line for extra vetting and noticed that I appeared to be the only person in line who didn't look Middle Eastern. What a coincidence.
Here's the worst thing about profiling; It works.
Except that it actually doesn't. Repeated studies have shown that profiling (as practiced by most police departments) sweeps up huge numbers of false positives while failing to measurably increase law enforcement success.
Profiling only works when the prevalence rate within the profiled population is high (that is, > 0.1) and the prevalence rate in the non-targeted population is low (that is, << 0.01). Profiling fails when the prevalence rate within the profiled population is low even if the prevalence rate within the non-target population is lower.
More things that aren't really happening. Just more fear mongering. Reason has really lost it.
But you accept that ICE officers are being masked, not showing ID, driving around in unmarked cars, and are seizing potential illegal immigrants off the streets, right?
Their mask protects you! Don’t you want people to be safe?
Do you want to kill grandma?
Yes
It is legal.
Know who else sent masked officers in unmarked cars to grab people off the street, and it was totally legal?
Are you still mad the cops scooped up your drunk ass like that?
Sarc loves cops who shoot unarmed women.
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I back the blue when they’re right. In this case, as you very well know, the cop didn’t know she was unarmed and from his vantage point he couldn’t see the crowd. He just saw someone crawling through a smashed barricade while hearing chaos on the police radio. So based upon what he knew based upon what he could see and hear, he did what he thought was right.
Unmarked vans!!!! Funny how yoi denied screaming this a few months ago. Yet right back to it.
That's called freedom. Duh.
Covid Karen talking about freedom. Lol
Yes.
Because your allies are threatening them for executing their duties.
They have ICE and Police in big letters on their vests front and back. Sorry. And they always announce who they are. Sorry.
This same old trope was used during Trump's first term when the psycho left and anarchists played stupid games in Seattle, Portland and San Francisco.
What is with DNC leftist American's attempting to paint their country as if it is Stalin's communist USSR under their political opponents when in fact it is the DNC leftists that perpetrated Stalin's communist regimes tactics when they were in power?
They have ICE and Police in big letters on their vests front and back. Sorry. And they always announce who they are. Sorry.
How do we know? Has anyone ever impersonated cops or ICE agents?
Hey Greenhut! A couple of years ago I was stopped by Police three times on my way home from work. I wasn't a Black woman, but, I was driving a blue Chevy that fit the description that they were looking for. Once Officers saw me, I was given a polite apology and sent on my way. The first Officer explained why I was stopped, so I had no problem with the other stops. Yes I was detained briefly, and it was a minor inconvenience.
Reason has hit rock bottom and has started to dig in it's hatred of Donald Trump. I show up now just to find what new crap you're coming up with just to get a laugh.
Hey Steve, way to only tell half the story. Keep your oravda up.
Fuck off you cunt
His boyfriends on blue sky will love it!
There's a lot wrong with this picture. In a constitutional republic, armed officers should not be wearing face masks as if they are members of some third-world paramilitary organization.
Why do Antifa and the Hamas Kids wear masks if they're merely engaged in peaceful protest, as if they're members of some third-world terrorist organization.
"They don't want to be doxxed and targeted," right? "Also, that's (D)ifferent."
The left set the stage, Steven. Admittedly, for too long the right was complacent and let you get away with it. They let the left exploit their virtue, their tolerance, their compassion, their empathy - and it spun well out of their control. They can't just "undo" it now and go back to normal. They have to raze the stage.
And that's why they threw their lot in with an orange guy who promised to do it by hell or high water.
If you're not upset by these developments, then I suppose you just don't fit the profile of an American who cares much about the Constitution.
You long passed the point where toxic empathy or toxic virtue have any effect anymore. When would-be Laken Riley's are told, "You need to be more diligent when jogging," but crocodile tears are then shed for a degenerate scumbag like Killmore Taquito Garcia - all you're doing is proving how utterly full of Grade-A BS you are. Weaponizing the Constitution against Americans, and in favor of criminal aliens is the last straw.
Sure, some of these developments upset me. But I can live with being upset until all the illegals (and, while we're at it, the LGBT Pedo) are purged from this nation. You don't get to whine about the Constitution when you clearly have no f's to give its Rule of Law or its role in American society.
And to allay your fearmongering about the notion that we get some bystanders by accident - like I've said before: Very Sincere Apology™ and a $10 gift card to Applebees to make up for the hassle.
Well said
according to The New York Times. "Another officer then asked him an unusual question…'What hospital were you born at?'…
Now we know the entire article is bullshit.
What was it we were told?
Oh yeah - 'The Constitution is not a suicide pact.'
Didn't waste time reading it, but it's odds-on he didn't bother mentioning the slime who caused the problem, but is blaming the plumber trying to fix the leak.
"Immigration Raids Are Ensnaring Innocent, Legal Bystanders"
Let me be clear: I am absolutely opposed to rounding up peaceful, self-supporting, hard-working people for ANY reason whether it "ensnares" innocent bystanders or not. But the title makes a claim that is not supported in ANY way by anything in the article! I can think of only a few examples of innocent bystanders being held without due process after a sweep from the pages of "Reason", and maybe one American citizen who was actually deported. Hype titles are not helping the cause here, guys!
If only Milgram could have seen these comments, he wouldn't have needed to run his famous experiment