What More Do the Iran Hawks Want?
Those who pushed for Trump to attack Iran are now moving the goalposts for success.

The Trump administration thought that its attack on Iranian nuclear facilities was a limited show of strength with no cost. "When you can't solve it diplomatically, you use overwhelming military power to solve it, and then you get the hell out of there before it ever becomes a protracted conflict. That is the Trump doctrine," Vice President J.D. Vance told the audience at an Ohio Republican Party dinner.
Although President Donald Trump said that the U.S. would bomb Iran again if it tried to rebuild, he claims that will not be necessary and insists that a diplomatic deal can tie up loose ends. "I said 'Iran will not have nuclear.' Well, we blew it up. It's blown up to kingdom come, and so I don't feel very strongly about it. If we got a document, it wouldn't be bad. We're going to meet with them," Trump said at the NATO summit on Wednesday.
But the hawks in Washington who pushed for the U.S. to join the Israeli-Iranian war aren't satisfied. As predicted, they're arguing that the job isn't done and agitating for a more extended war. And now that the political barrier has been broken, it's easy for them to push for more attacks.
Almost immediately after the ceasefire set in, conservative talk show host Mark Levin criticized Trump for not getting Iran to sign "a surrender document" or killing its leaders. "So we have a ceasefire. I hate this word, ceasefire," Levin, who had reportedly been an influential voice in Trump's ear leading up to the war, said on Monday. "Adolf Hitler wasn't thrown a lifeline. He wasn't thrown a lifeline. He was going to be killed, so he committed suicide."
Congressional Republicans were more careful not to attack Trump's insistence on a ceasefire, but tried to shift the goalposts of the war from a decisive one-off attack on Iran to the beginning of a protracted campaign of whack-a-mole. For example, Rep. Michael McCaul (R–Texas) told CNN that the plan to attack Iran "was always known to be a temporary setback where they could rebuild the centrifuges."
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) brought in his signature combination of flattery and demands, stating that Trump deserves a "Nobel Peace Prize on steroids" if he can get Iran to recognize Israel diplomatically—and implying that the ceasefire is worthless otherwise. "A ceasefire that leads to peace is a wonderful thing. A ceasefire that allows Iran to rearm and come back another day is a step backwards," Graham told CNN on Tuesday.
Graham's escalating demands shouldn't come as a surprise. During the Obama administration, he insisted that he only wanted pressure on Iran as diplomatic leverage, and took offense at the idea that he was pro-war. When the first Trump administration escalated against Iran, however, he quickly became a cheerleader for a military attack, with a particular obsession with bombing Iranian oil fields.
Then there was the administration's internal debate over how effective the air strikes were to begin with, which spilled out into the media. While Trump has insisted that he has intelligence showing the "total obliteration" of the Fordo uranium enrichment facility, the most important of the three sites he attacked, a U.S. intelligence assessment was leaked on Tuesday to several media outlets claiming that Iran's nuclear program was only set back by a few months.
Of course, the effectiveness of the attack is an important question of fact to get straight. But the timing and breadth of the leak—the report was published by CNN, NBC, CBS, and The New York Times almost simultaneously—suggests that it was a coordinated political move.
On one hand, a finding of only temporary damage to Fordo cuts against the hawks' argument that bombing Iran was a cost-free way to destroy the Iranian nuclear program. On the other hand, the leak could be a way to goad Trump into attacking again by implying that the job was left unfinished.
"The leak of the Iran strike battle damage assessment is clearly being coordinated by comms professionals considering almost every [national security] reporter has gotten a copy right before Trump's big appearance at NATO. The timing and scale of this show this isn't an Ed Snowden situation," former Pentagon official Dan Caldwell, who has publicly opposed war with Iran, wrote on X.
Meanwhile, the Israeli government has hinted that it is already gearing up for the next round. "We have concluded a significant chapter, but the campaign against Iran is not over. We are entering a new phase, one that builds upon the achievements of the current operation," Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir said in a statement to the media on Tuesday.
At the very least, Israel would require U.S. protection to fight another round of war. Both the Israeli and U.S. militaries began to run out of air defense ammunition after only a few days, The Wall Street Journal reports, and Israel is expecting increased U.S. aid to help pay for the 40 billion shekel ($11.7 billion) cost of replenishing those weapons, according to the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahonroth.
More money may not solve the problem. Using Jordanian webcam data, Sam Lair at the nonprofit James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies found that U.S. troops in Israel fired at least 39 Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) interceptors during the brief war. The U.S. produced only 12 of those interceptors in FY 2025, and expects to produce 32 in FY 2026. It is the missile "overmatch" problem that former U.S. Central Command head Gen. Kenneth McKenzie Jr. warned about in 2021.
And even the short war did not play well with the American people. Separate polls by CNN and Reuters/Ipsos found that a majority disapproved of the airstrikes on Iran and wanted the war to end swiftly. That's why hawks are trying to desperately avoid a war powers vote—and relying on palace intrigue, language games, and appeals to Trump's ego to keep the war going instead.
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Okay, you are contradicting yourself. There were no WMD then but there were to be NOW. So why bring that up.
If you posit they are comparable you are actually introducting the comparison, not discovering it.
The Iranian regime has repeatedly said, without hesitation and without shame, that its ultimate goal is the destruction of the State of Israel. SO THEY MUST BE DESTROYED. you are bringing up irrelevancies. If someone with their hand in their jacket pocket says to your child "I have a gun and I will kill you if you don't do X" what do you do? YOU KILL HIM. You say , it might have been a banana not a gun ...SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????????????????????????
Iran stands behind Hamas and Hezbollah, behind the massacre on October 7, and behind the attack on the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires and further attacks from Bulgaria to Mumbai, from Kenya to Thailand. For a long time, Iran controlled Syria and Lebanon (and destroyed them both) in order to implement a siege on Israel. It funded terror organizations in the West Bank to ensure constant instability between Israel and the Palestinians.
None of which has anything to do with nuclear weapons.
Is the goal to bomb Iran into liking Israel?
Is the goal to bomb Iran into liking Israel?
Yes
If only grudgingly.
Odd how Israel can't spread its positive vibes via bombing on its own dime.
Yeah JewFree, we get it. You hate Jews and think the wrong side won here.
Yes, and the British and French should has gone on their own with Germany.
Liking? Are you a child? How about respecting?
For the Neocons this was never about Iran's nuclear program. Even if Iran got nukes, they are not suicidal. They are not going to nuke Israel much less the US. This was always about dragging Trump into a war to overthrow the Iranian government and rebuild the country into something more to the Neocons' liking. Luckily, it looks like Trump isn't going to take the bait and won't be getting dragged into a war for regime change.
Even if Iran got nukes, they are not suicidal.
You are dead wrong on this point. You're applying a modern Western mentality to a 7th Century ideology. Iran is like the ONLY nation on the planet to which Mutually Assured Destruction is not a nuclear deterrent (maybe the Norks too, but China keeps them on a leash). It is an acceptable level of collateral damage to them.
If they could guarantee the death of every man, woman, and child in Israel - and the price was the death of every Iranian man, woman, and child as well - they'd happily pay it. Because their goal is not to conquer or pillage or plunder or subjugate Israel. Their goal is Death to Israel. And if Israel dies, Iran may die too - but Islam wins and will still be there to be empowered by that huge step in fulfilling Islamic prophecy.
Stop thinking of them as a nation-state. Start thinking of them for what they are: a psychotic cult of homicidal maniacs.
While Trump has insisted that he has intelligence showing the "total obliteration" of the Fordo uranium enrichment facility, the most important of the three sites he attacked, a U.S. intelligence assessment was leaked on Tuesday to several media outlets claiming that Iran's nuclear program was only set back by a few months.
I agree with Trump here. The US attack was not an attack on a 'nuclear program'. It was an attack on three facilities. Those three facilities are almost certainly obliterated forever. Even if they aren't technically obliterated, they ain't ever going to be used again.
Now - are there other facilities? uranium? centrifuges? test and research labs? millions of engineers and managers to recreate a program should they want to recreate it? Those are broader elements of a 'program'.
Of course - and there ain't no way any of that can be bombed into submission. It's not remotely a surprise that the US and Israel believe that destroying buildings/caves is how 'non-proliferation' works - but that is because those two are either psychopaths or idiots.
Granted it's safe to assume that neither of them will ever have the slightest clue as to how non-proliferation can really work in future either because they are probably at/beyond the point at which Iran will withdraw (formally, informally, or passive-aggressively) from NPT. Thus ensuring the outcome that Israel and the US say they don't want. And I suspect that the only countries that really give a shit about helping those two figure this out - are those two.
Sorry guys, looks like trump takes the win on this deal.
Yes. The Neocons are absolutely beside themselves. This was supposed be another war of regime change. At the same time the "all US military action is bad and doomed to fail" types at reason are just as devastated by the success as the Neocons. This was supposed to be a bloodbath and lead to a longer war to punish the US for thinking military action is ever the answer.
I think maybe the reason staff and the writers at The Bulwark should think about getting together this weekend and just hugging it out. It has been a tough week for both of them.
My favorite is the media a week ago saying Iran was years away from capability. But now that the deep stated leaked a statement to CNN they now claim Iran was barely set back and are only months away from nuclear weapons.
I give it six months or at most a year before they are back to "Iran is just weeks away..." The whole thing is just pathetic. They got their bombing. If that doesn't satisfy their bloodlust, they should find some new hobbies.
Are those Palestinian generator units of time or real world units of time.
What More Do the Iran Hawks Want?
Forever War?
Say it again yall!
Forever War
Easiest question and request I've had all day.
As far as neocons are concerned it's really not complicated. They need endless war for profit and credibility. Iran isn't even the issue. It's just the next rung on the ladder to feed the war machine. The US hasn't won a war since WW2 but we've stacked up millions of dead pretending to save civilization from whatever boogie man becomes the latest shiny object. If the "Trump Doctrine" proves to be successful in negotiating lasting peace agreements, the neocons long term ambitions are toast. This is why assholes like Levin and Graham and Bolton are so vocal about keeping the war door open. The last thing they want is peace.
You mean Iran might not really have been just "weeks away" from having nukes for the last 15 years? That maybe they were lying about that? Well, I never...
On a long enough timeline everybody will have a nuke in their garage.
You better get the bomb before the Jones get one first.
Can't keep up with Jones's. I'll end up with a Chinese knockoff from Temu.
Those TEMU nukes are always a rip off. They are just dirty bombs labeled like nukes
An hour after you detonate one, you want to detonate another one.
You have to sign a non proliferation document or a waiver to get one.
Has Sony guts!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36z3Hk7wl4
And while I'm at it, I think this was a good article by Petty. He may not be MAGA but in terms of foreign policy he at least seems to see a potential upside.
Separate polls by CNN and Reuters/Ipsos found that a majority
disapproved of the airstrikes on Iran and wanted the war to end swiftlyhad no clue anything had occurred before it was over.I fixed that for you.
When my most squemish and sensitive neighbors read your sissy whining and then see this (below) they want to kick your asss.
Iran senior military adviser: 'We must chop off Trump's hand, slit Netanyahu's throat, annihilate Israel'
'Perhaps America has joined [the war] because we were very close to annihilating Israel. It was in the closing stages'
Hypothetical: Isreal is the size of New Jersey. What if we stopped taking South Americans immigrants and moved the entire country of jews to the US. (Yeah, yeah, I know they wouldn't leave ... holy land, this... ancestors, that... etc.) If the middle east didn't have jews to fight over, could they get along with just themselves ?
No, the different factions of Islam will turn on each other.
So an even bigger W then?
Of course Iran will just rebuild. Put yourself in their shoes and you'll realize that you would do the same. Regime change might stop Iran from rebuilding, but we're really still in the same boat. Just like in Afghanistan, as soon as we pull out, the same ideology we threw out will just reassert itself with new people, and then they'll rebuild the nuclear program. You can kill Ayatollah Khameini, but the next supreme ruler will still have a first name of Ayatollah. I don't know the answer, and I'm not even sure Trump made the wrong move here, but it surely isn't a simple as Trump is suggesting.
But the hawks in Washington who pushed for the U.S. to join the Israeli-Iranian war aren't satisfied.
Are any Iranians still alive?
Then the hawks are kinda right, aren't they.