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How Freedom Lovers Can Reckon with Addicts and Addiction

A new book looks at addiction through the lens of choice and responsibility.

Daniel Akst | 6.15.2025 7:00 AM

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What Is It Like To Be an Addict? Understanding Substance Abuse, by Owen Flanagan, Oxford University Press, 320 pages, $24.99

Addiction is a problem that defenders of liberty need to face, for if citizens cannot control their appetites, the state may be inclined to take over the job for them. Freedom depends on self-command supported by a fragile web of norms and relationships that lets us keep our own lives in order and get along with one another. Addiction is the acute case of the appetites run amok, as they often do when unfettered by such constraints as wealth, religion, and community.

Owen Flanagan's new book, What Is It Like To Be an Addict?, should be welcomed by anyone concerned with these issues. Despite its modest size, this is a work of large ambition and broad range informed not just by the author's long career as a prominent philosopher but by his many years as a desperately addicted abuser of alcohol and sedatives.

"This is a deeply personal book," he writes. "I was addicted to booze and benzos for twenty years on and off from the late 1970s until the early 2000s. The last years were especially ugly, requiring several hospitalizations, and involving constant self-loathing and suicidal despair."

Unsurprisingly given his experience, Flanagan stresses that we should pay close attention to what the addicted have to tell us. And among the most important things addicts say is that they are by no means blameless just because they supposedly have a disease. On the contrary, many feel shame (for being an addict) and guilt (for behaviors that are slowly destroying them and harming their loved ones).

To Flanagan, these feelings are right and good. That stance may inspire horror from some people, who will see it as victim-blaming. But it's consistent with Flanagan's view that addicts can't be reduced to flesh-and-blood automatons jerked about by their cravings. As he notes, even people who claim to believe this will then earnestly implore an addict to get help—a plea that could only be directed at someone presumed to have the ability to make choices. "Every treatment that works to unseat addiction," he writes, "assumes that addicts are responsible and must participate in undoing their own addiction."

Flanagan doesn't even think addiction is a disease, exactly—more of a multifactorial disorder of enormous social, physical, psychological, and pharmacological complexity. Indeed, one of his book's main points is that addiction cannot be seen as any one simple thing. But he doggedly insists that addicts retain some agency during their plight.

"Practices of compassion, forgiveness, and excusing are distinct from whether or not we hold the addict responsible," he writes. "We hold addicts responsible in many respects and rightly so. Thus, the determination that addiction is a disease or mental disorder is much less consequential as far as holding addicts responsible goes than many suggest."

Flanagan takes care to distinguish between unwilling addicts, willing addicts, and resigned addicts, helping us through these categories to think about what we mean by addiction and how best to mitigate it. Particularly notable are the minority who are willing addicts—he mentions as an example Keith Richards, who has said he was a longtime heroin user. At least some of these individuals are in control of the consequences of their habit and satisfied with their lives. Is their addiction any more meaningful than a coffee habit?

Unwilling addicts want to quit, and many will eventually succeed. And resigned addicts are those who wanted to quit, couldn't, and just gave up, surrendering to hopelessness. They are in a sense beyond unwilling; by not trying to quit, they effectively acquiesce. Here, the author says, a kind of accommodation may help. One nonprofit in Europe helps resigned addicts to lead orderly lives through more disciplined consumption—in one methadone-like program, six pints of beer spread throughout the day—as well as suitable paid employment.

As for himself, the author credits Alcoholics Anonymous with saving his life by enabling his sobriety, but he also thinks it has a certain cultishness; like any good rationalist, he insists on "the distinction between the belief in a Higher Power having an effect and the Higher Power having an effect."

Flanagan is also a capable researcher and reporter. Who knew that many addicts call the rest of us "earth people"? Or, more significantly, that there is so much overlap between addiction and other psychiatric disorders? "Twenty-five percent of individuals with severe mental illness, defined as a disorder that severely compromises normal functioning—schizophrenia with delusions or immobilizing depression—have a substance use disorder," the author says. "In the other direction, 15 percent of individuals with a substance use disorder also have a severe mental illness."

This book's focus is substance abuse rather than, say, Facebook addiction, if such a thing exists. Flanagan is properly skeptical of the movement to medicalize all of life's setbacks and sadnesses. He notes that men in most cultures are more likely than women to abuse alcohol and drugs, but that women are gaining. "There is no country where female alcoholism…rates are near 10 percent. But there are many countries in which the male alcoholism rate is above 10 percent and a few that top 13 percent: Russia (16.29 percent), Hungary (15.29 percent), Lithuania (13.35 percent), and South Korea (13.10 percent)."

He reminds us that while the war on drugs appears to be a costly failure, we can't say for sure that many addictions wouldn't be worse in its absence. And he notes some of the problems that have accompanied legalization initiatives. In Portugal, after a decade of good results, "substance use is on the rise, and fewer and fewer people in need are getting treatment. Recent data indicate that both overall drug use and drug overdose rates are up." In Oregon, decriminalization Measure 110 "is being unwound" after evictions and fentanyl supplies surged. But he cautions: "The data do not mean, as some are quick to insist, that decriminalization, harm reduction, and treatment are not for the best."

What Is It Like To Be an Addict? has its shortcomings, which largely stem from the author's academic tribe. The book is not particularly well-organized or well-written; again and again, Flanagan tells us what he's going to tell us, and then tells us the thing a couple more times to be on the safe side. And the book can be heavy on jargon. At one point, despite his professed sobriety, he writes: "When I report on the experiences of fellow addicts based on their autophenomenological reports, I am doing heterophenomenology."

Particularly nettlesome is the author's claim that, although addicts are responsible for their addiction, the rest of us are responsible too because of the woeful conditions we've allowed to persist. He wheels out the usual suspects including "social displacement," poverty, inequality, racism, depression, "lack of good life options," and other all-purpose woes that "are not caused by addicts."

Blinkered by his ready-made list of villains, the author takes little account of other potential factors. Affluence in particular seems at least as likely a culprit as poverty. Today's poor are often richer than middle-class Americans were in the middle of the last century, and today's American middle class is extraordinarily affluent by historical and global standards. That means more of us can afford substance abuse of all kinds, not to mention addictions to shopping and other costly behaviors.

How about changes to family life or to levels of church attendance? Isn't it possible that the religious and familial dimensions of A.A. are essential to its remarkable success? It's noteworthy that the author's own salvation came not from any arm of government but from a private, apolitical institution operating on a shoestring and making no attempt to end inequality or racism. Drunks come to A.A. and somehow get sober anyway.

But in truth, the author's gestures toward collective responsibility feel more obligatory than emphatic. What he really wants is a humane, evidence-based approach to the problem of addiction consistent with individual agency, and that's an approach fully in accord with a faith in human liberty. At the same time, we might as well recognize that voters will quickly lose their enthusiasm for legalizing drugs if they blame it for public chaos. Freedom always and everywhere relies on self-regulation. 

These are tough times for individual agency. Many philosophers and psychologists scoff at the notion of free will, which others seem to regard as the sole province of the "privileged." A therapeutic culture and the nanny state give us all incentives to see ourselves as victims, helpless in the face of implacable forces of oppression. It is refreshing to read a book that refuses to dehumanize addicts by depriving them of responsibility or delegitimizing the shame they feel for their actions.

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Daniel Akst is the author of We Have Met the Enemy: Self-Control in an Age of Excess.

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  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

    Unsurprisingly given his experience, Flanagan stresses that we should pay close attention to what the addicted have to tell us.

    Why? As sarc shows we can just read leftist reddit or watch maddow if we want to hear what they have to say.

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  2. Roberta   14 hours ago

    ...

    Drunks come to A.A. and somehow get sober [despite not changing society].

    Except, nobody does randomized studies of it, it's impossible to blind the subject, and what would be a relevant control anyway? (Maybe the AAA!) When A.A. and the like work, it's because the subject has already decided to make it work.

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    1. bye   10 hours ago

      But he has decided to make it work because of AA !!!. This is a conceptual separation that has no existence in reality.
      You are reviving a wheel already invented.

      It's called Abulia or akrasia (depending whether you go the Greek or Latin route)
      Never read this but have seen it recommended for decades

      The Training of the Will
      by Johann Lindworsky (Author)
      4.9 out of 5 stars (8)

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  3. Fat Rush Limpcock   13 hours ago

    Why is MAGA gunman and political assassin Vance Boelter on the run? Donnie will pardon him. Maybe even honor him with a parade.

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    1. Vernon Depner   13 hours ago

      Who?

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

      And how do you manage to make those stunning leaps of logic, dipshit?

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    3. damikesc   7 hours ago

      You mean the Tim Walz appointee?

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  4. Vernon Depner   13 hours ago

    The older I get the less I can believe in this "free will" stuff. I can buy that our conscious intellect has SOME degree of control over our actions, but it appears that we are predominantly passengers in our bodies, not the captains.

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    1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   12 hours ago

      How sad for you.

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    2. Nobartium   12 hours ago

      If that's the case, then socialism is inevitable.

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    3. bye   10 hours ago

      Even the way you say that disproves what you are saying

      1) Yes as you cede to your laziness and bad habits you lose will
      WILLIAM JAMES
      “Keep the faculty of effort alive in you by a little gratuitous exercise every day. That is, be systematically heroic in little unnecessary points, do every day or two something for no other reason than its difficulty, so that, when the hour of dire need draws nigh, it may find you not unnerved and untrained to stand the test"
      2) Free will is only defined as what you are able to exercise control over. We must be the captains because the good/bad evil/not evil that the will seeks or avoids depends on the mind rightly judging. Now if it doesn't, that is most often a lazy will (!!) that didn't seek the truth, didn't live by the truth, didn't care...so that is what you are calling 'lack of free will"

      3) The whole static view you have CAUSES the power of the will to atrophy. "I can't help it" is mostly "I never did help it" "I am too lazy to help it" and "now I excuse what I did to myself by saying I don't have free will.

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      1. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

        You're saying I'm mistaken about what my own perceptions are? Not sure that's possible.

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        1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   8 hours ago

          Wrong again.

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  5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   13 hours ago

    God damn. There's a video of a papa John's employee claiming to be the room mate of the minn shooter. The shooter was an NGO millionaire living in a huge rural house with a wife and 5 kids. But democrats are so retarded they are believing this video.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 hours ago

      I've spent way too much time this morning trying to make sense of this guy. Talk about a rabbit hole. So he's CEO of this Red Lion Group which is alternately a private security firm in the Congo but purportedly has worked all over the middle east and eastern Europe but also poses as some sort of charitable organization. Widely claimed to be a USAID NGO money laundering operation. Concurrently claims to be CEO of this Praetorian Guard security business in MN. It's not clear that this is actually a real business at this point. Also appointed by 2 Democrat governors to the Governor's Workforce Development Board. Also affiliated with Minnesota Africans United if it actually exists. Won the Helen Keller award from the Newport Lions Club. Represented Marathon Petroleum at some point in Africa. Somehow linked to the Global Workforce Movement. Looking for a high level executive position in the food industry apparently based on his experience as a 7/11 store manager. Concurrently looking for work in the funeral business. His wife at some point worked for Tim Walz. He also at some point claimed to be an evangelical minister.
      None of which explains why he murdered two Democrats and critically injured two more. We have hearsay comments from "roommates" (despite living with a wife and five kids in an upscale rural home) that he was pro Trump and anti abortion but no other evidence of his political views has surfaced. The photos posted from the actual crime scene don't look anything like this guy. The cops claim he was wearing a "realistic" mask. The cops were close enough to exchange gunfire but he mysteriously vanishes into the night never to be seen again. So anyway. The short story is that this guy was a marginally talented grifter who found a seat on the USAID gravy train until DOGE kicked him off. A month later he gets a fake police car and uniform, puts on a realistic mask, and goes on a shooting spree on No Kings day. For some reason. If somebody can make any of this make sense please let me know.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

        An amalgamation of all of shrikes socks.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

        Given his political history mixed into all of this, the guy seems more like a globalist neocon in leaning which means that he's now more aligned with the Democrats.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   4 hours ago

          Both sides are right now desperately trying to establish a narrative that will live on as the conventional wisdom. Which ever side wins in the short term, rest assured the story will be a convenient mix of fact and fiction. It's also possible that the shit is so weird that the media across the board will just let the story die in the news cycle. In any case. They are lying. Whoever they are.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   4 hours ago

            +1

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  6. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

    This week's TACO tuesday:

    Trump backs off ICE raids on farms, hotels, restaurants and meatpacking plants.

    It sure seems like these immigrants are contributing to the economy by doing jobs Americans won't do and removing them is disrupting the economy, which is blowing back on Trump. What is the MAGA rationalization for this move?

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    1. Nobartium   12 hours ago

      It's a pause. Next week is when this might matter.

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      1. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

        Yeah it's always a just a pause, Why did they pause?

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        1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   11 hours ago

          So they could see the military parade.

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          1. Quicktown Brix   11 hours ago

            Well played

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    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   12 hours ago

      Lol. Yeah, and they didn’t cut eleventy trillion out of the budget in the first five minutes either.

      God, you people are gullible.

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      1. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

        What?

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        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 hours ago

          Just wait by your newsfeed for the next outrage story about dictatorial lawlessness or chickenshit fecklessness and bring it to us like a good boy, ok?

          Shouldn’t take long. Lol.

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          1. Quicktown Brix   6 hours ago

            ^This is how you know someone has no valid rebuttal.

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          2. KARate kid   3 hours ago

            #NoKings

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            1. Michael Ejercito   2 hours ago

              So you objected to COVId lockdowns?

              Because it is beyond debate that public health officials were behaving like absolute monarchs!

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              1. KARate kid   40 minutes ago

                Where did I favor lockdowns?

                #hangMichaelEjercito

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

        He also wants you to ignore all the judges he supported stopping or delaying a lot of the actions. Mike is consistent.

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        1. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

          Irrelevant

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        2. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

          Why don't you take a shot at answering my question instaed of your usual personal attacks?

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          1. sarcasmic   11 hours ago

            Lol

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            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

              You two are cute together. I really do miss the buffoonery of Mike and sarc threads.

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              1. KARate kid   43 minutes ago

                #NoKings

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      3. KARate kid   3 hours ago

        #NoKings

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    3. bye   11 hours ago

      NO, you are on the exactly wrong side of this. THey won't do those jobs at those slave inhuman wages. You are attacking the workers and defending the slavers

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      1. Quicktown Brix   10 hours ago

        NO, you are on the exactly wrong side of this.

        Trump's side?

        NO, you are on the exactly wrong side of this.

        My side is workers and "slavers" (MAGA really sounds like socialists these days,,don't they?) get to make their own decisions, not have the state make it for them.

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      2. American Socialist   9 hours ago

        Libertarians: FOR wage and price controls. As a socialist I’m beginning to like you guys more and more.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   6 hours ago

          So, uh, Shrike, did you manage to get your Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned yet again?

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    4. bye   10 hours ago

      NO, complete lack of insight. 3 errors you make (more but I like 3)

      1) Hotel jobs are a start on the job ladder for many , my friend MH worked at a hotel but later went to college etc. The hotel hires illegals who will take unjust demeaning wages under the threat of having ICE show them the door.

      2) Where there is a problem is in the education that makes healthy smart kids into illiterate lazy know-nothings, a problem stated almost 60 years ago
      A class of people is growing up who are unexploitable because they are not worth employing even for the minimum wage. Jacques Ellul

      3) with the Birth Dearth and the greying of America immigrants obviously can't be the answer, to which problem I tack on the fact that I don't know what America you are talking about

      National Survey Finds Just 1 in 3 Americans Would Pass Citizenship Test
      PRINCETON, N.J. (Oct. 3, 2018) – Only one in three Americans (36 percent) can actually pass a multiple choice test consisting of items taken from the U.S. Citizenship Test, which has a passing score of 60, according to a national survey released today by the Institute for Citizens & Scholars (formerly the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

        Liberals like Mike have to keep pushing the false narratives of jobs Americans won't do while simultaneously ignoring entry or early age jobs are no longer desirable.

        After raids in 2019 we saw how false this was as citizens lined up after job raids.

        https://www.vice.com/en/article/this-mississippi-chicken-plant-just-held-a-jobs-fair-to-replace-workers-snatched-up-by-ice/

        But reality is anathema to the liberal worldview of people like QB. So they keep pushing falsified narratives to support their views. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        1. Quicktown Brix   10 hours ago

          Thanks for the link. Pretty informative.

          ...companies like Koch have to find new people to fill their shoes, something experts have said could be difficult for a company that relies so heavily on immigrant labor.

          The mass raids — thought to be the largest in American history — resulted in the arrests of approximately 680 workers across seven plants...Bell said more than 200 people filled out applications during the job fair...

          Hmmmm. That's not good. It does help explain why Trump is really chickening out, but I'm more interested in the MAGA rationalization, not the real predicted economic reasons.

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      2. Quicktown Brix   10 hours ago

        NO, complete lack of insight. 3 errors you make (more but I like 3)

        OK. Why is Trump making these mistakes then?

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  7. Incunabulum   12 hours ago

    >" as they often do when unfettered by such constraints as wealth, religion, and community.

    Gee, wonder why the US has a problem with addiction.

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  8. American Socialist   11 hours ago

    Speaking of addictions… there’s a lot of commenters here that are addicted to having Trump’s schlong parked up their respective buttholes. Rhetorically speaking, of course. Trump would never give these Peanuts the time of day unless, of course, they were teens in his cheesy pageants or if you wanted to give loan him some money.

    Is there a 12step program to wean them off their crippling addiction? The suicide hotline is 1-800-273-8255, but it might not work as Dear Leader probably commandeered it to sell Trump$XXXCoin blockchain. Has anyone checked?

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    1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   11 hours ago

      Or, you could just kill yourself and not pussy out of it. Suicide……. See what all the fuss is about.

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    2. bye   11 hours ago

      YOu mainly sound like a fool. an egotistical attention-seeking low self-esteem fool.

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

      So, uh, Shrike, did you manage to get your Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned yet again?

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    4. Longtobefree   6 hours ago

      Speaking of calling a suicide hotline - - - - - -

      https://notthebee.com/article/suicide-hotline-operator-encourages-disabled-canadian-woman-to-consider-assisted-suicide

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  9. bye   11 hours ago

    To bring the two angles together, the religious/spiritual and drug addiction side, I think it indisputable that this article and the book argue for GREATER TOUGHNESS on the beginnings of drug use. Yes, it's my ole Broken Windows criminology lens on things.

    THe guy who kills somebody because he has to get that next cocaine fix, probably did not start by shooting up. And he probably ran into the law several times when he was on the more free side of drug use.

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    1. KiwiDude   3 hours ago

      Ask why the coke addict killed someone to get his next fix.
      Is it because he has to steal to afford black market prices?

      When was the last time you heard of an alcoholic murdering someone to get a drink?

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  10. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

    Just to be clear. The LGBTQs have no interest whatsoever in grooming kids. None.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/lgbt-exhibit-surrounding-childrens-playground-features-nude-images-promotes-gender-confusion?author=Amanda+Prestigiacomo&category=undefined&elementPosition=8&row=3&rowHeadline=Latest+News&rowType=Vertical+Carousel&title=LGBT+Exhibit+Surrounding+Children%E2%80%99s+Playground+Features+Nude+Images%2C+Promotes+Gender+Confusion
    LGBT Exhibit Surrounding Children’s Playground Features Nude Images, Promotes Gender Confusion
    “Gender (genital) reveals are transphobic, homophobic and racist…”

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

      I'm told there is a differents between pedofiles and map... But the wood chipper dont care

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    2. sarcasmic   7 hours ago

      Fallacy of composition for the win!

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

        Tell us more, Strawcasmic.

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  11. TJJ2000   5 hours ago

    But, but, but drugs users are 'poor'!!! So [WE] all have to subsidize their living habits.... /s

    The book sounds like a good read as I'd opinion that most of the US drug abuse problem stems from far too much lack of self-responsibility standing in the USA.

    As well as the same being the US debt problem. Someone sold the BS myth that borrowers could never be prosecuted/prison-ed for not being able to pay their bills and ever since then it has been about who can borrow the most without ever having to repay it.

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  12. KiwiDude   3 hours ago

    “ we can't say for sure that many addictions wouldn't be worse in its absence”

    Ok, carry on with the drug war then.
    Shirley the addicts are better off with high prices, variable strength, dodgy additives, fear of arrest, criminals to buy from ….

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  13. KARate kid   3 hours ago

    #NoKings

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    1. Michael Ejercito   2 hours ago

      So you objected to COVID lockdowns?

      Because it is beyond debate that public health officials were behaving like absolute monarchs!

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      1. KARate kid   54 minutes ago

        So you are for Kings?

        Because it is beyond debate that this is America and we don’t have kings!

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        1. VULGAR MADMAN   49 minutes ago

          The people in these protests are masktards.

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        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   49 minutes ago

          Does your nonsense narrative even make a lick of sense to you?

          The entire no kings narrative is abome to retards mad they didnt win an election. It is hilarious seeing signs about democracy after trump won the election and watching democrats try to use inferior Courts to overturn it after using the courts to try to send him to jail and remove him from ballots.

          You all are just fucking idiots lol.

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          1. KARate kid   46 minutes ago

            How’s that evidence of voter fraud coming?

            It’s gonna be so satisfying watching you hang.

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  14. Stuck in California   38 minutes ago

    ...of A.A. are essential to its remarkable success?

    Cites facts not in evidence.

    AA is remarkably ineffective. ALL addiction interventions are actually remarkably ineffective, all things considered. Like, in some studies, long term results are hardly better than no treatment at all.

    Basically, the people it works for, it works for. And those people tend to be self motivated and genuinely ready to change, willing to make the effort to do so, etc.

    I don't mean to throw shade on anyone who is in AA and it works for them. I have friends who have visited AA meetings for a long time because they find it very helpful. Those are precisely the people it works for.

    I also have met a lot of people who have gone to a bunch of meetings but still backslide. A lot. And I have met way more of them than of my buddy who hasn't done drugs for 30 years and goes to meetings every week. AA's main benefit is that it's cheap or free and available long term, so someone who wants to feel understood can attend a meeting whenever, without having to have insurance approve it or pay a therapist or whatever.

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    1. Stuck in California   20 minutes ago

      Curiously, when looking for cites on how ineffective addiction treatments are, I found a crapload of duck duck go headlines saying "Review finds Alcoholics Anonymous performs well" and "AA the most successful" etc.

      Except, the actual study says no such thing.

      They're all citing a meta-analysis published in 2020 that said AA can provide better long term sobriety results than other interventions. It says:

      There is high quality evidence that manualized AA/TSF interventions are more effective than other established treatments, such as CBT, for increasing abstinence. Non‐manualized AA/TSF may perform as well as these other established treatments.

      Since other treatments are also remarkably ineffective in the long term, it's "better". But better is not good.

      The study conclusion says:
      AA/TSF probably produces substantial healthcare cost savings among people with alcohol use disorder.

      In other words, since it's cheap and widely available, it's a lot cheaper for insurance companies. Which is what the study was looking at and where AA was very effective.

      Anyway, there's a rabbit hole I didn't mean to go down. Point is, most addiction treatments only work for a certain subset of those treated, and that subset is quite small.

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