Trump's Prescription Price Controls Would Lead to Fewer New Drugs
The executive order is likely unconstitutional, but if implemented as written, it would be detrimental to the American health care market.

In an executive order last week, President Donald Trump effectively instituted price controls on prescription drugs—not just those purchased by the government through Medicare and Medicaid, but apparently all prescription drugs sold in the United States. The order directed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to "communicate most-favored-nation price targets to pharmaceutical manufacturers," meaning the companies must charge Americans the lowest price that any other country was getting for the same drug.
This week, HHS and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) announced they would being implementing the president's order. While it remains to be seen what actual legal authority—if any—the president has to impose such a directive, it's clear that if fully enacted, it would be detrimental to the American health care market.
"The Department has identified specific targets pharmaceutical manufacturers are expected to meet to satisfy the requirements of the Executive Order," according to an HHS press release on Tuesday.
The order intends to correct an imbalance between prescription prices in the U.S. and in other nations, specifically members of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). "The prices Americans pay for brand-name drugs are more than three times the price other OECD nations pay," the White House claimed last week. "Americans are subsidizing drug-manufacturer profits and foreign health systems, despite drug manufacturers benefiting from generous research subsidies and enormous healthcare spending by the U.S. Government."
The complaint is valid: Americans do shoulder the brunt of the costs of new drugs, which are largely developed in the U.S. But there's a reason for that imbalance, which Trump's likely unconstitutional order not only wouldn't fix but would likely exacerbate.
In a Fox News op-ed, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. called the order "a revolution in healthcare affordability. The plan is simple yet transformative: ensure Americans pay no more for medications than citizens of other wealthy nations."
But the order simply directs a Cabinet department to tell drug companies to charge less for their products. It doesn't mention any ways a drug company could lower its costs, and it doesn't list any steps the government will take to ease the costly regulatory burdens those companies face. The only thing revolutionary about the order is how brazenly it flouts constitutional principles by attempting to exert pressure on private companies.
"The [executive] order is a disaster," says Wayne Winegarden, senior fellow at the Pacific Research Institute, a free market think tank. "How do you implement this? How do you force, and by what authority do you force, private manufacturers to charge…a certain price?"
"We expect pharmaceutical manufacturers to fulfill their commitment to lower prices for American patients, or we will take action to ensure they do," Kennedy said, as quoted in the press release.
What form that action will take is unclear, though Trump's order did say in the event a manufacturer did not comply, HHS and other agencies should take certain steps like "enforcement action against any anti-competitive practices" and "review and potentially modify or revoke approvals granted for drugs, for those drugs that maybe [sic] be unsafe, ineffective, or improperly marketed." Presumably, the administration could start pulling approvals for a certain manufacturer's drugs, or threaten it with an antitrust lawsuit, unless the company hit its price targets.
But while Americans do pay a premium for prescription drugs over other industrialized nations, we get something for that premium. "The access issues in those countries are real," Winegarden says. "We have access to a much larger share of innovative medicines overall, we get them quicker here, and so if we adopt [price controls] here, we would have those same access issues."
It's also not uniformly the case that all drugs are more expensive here. A 2024 RAND report found that while name-brand drugs in the U.S. were "422 percent of prices in comparison countries," unbranded generics—which make up 90 percent of all prescriptions dispensed in the U.S.—"were on average cheaper at 67 percent of prices in comparison countries, where on average only 41 percent of prescription volume is for unbranded generics."
"Those countries are pricing the drugs well below the cost of capital," he adds. "The bottom line is there's a cost of capital involved in developing innovative medicines. And if you don't cover the cost of capital, you're not gonna continue to operate."
And while lowering the costs of drugs would expand access, it would also have negative consequences overall.
In 2019, the Elijah Cummings Lower Drug Costs Now Act passed the U.S. House before stalling in the Senate. The bill would have required HHS to negotiate the costs of several name-brand drugs for which there were no generic substitutes. When scoring the bill, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) warned it could have negative effects on the pharmaceutical market.
"In the short term, lower prices would increase use of drugs and improve people's health," the report found. "In the longer term, CBO estimates that the reduction in manufacturers' revenues…would result in lower spending on research and development and thus reduce the introduction of new drugs." The CBO estimated that "a reduction in revenues of $0.5 trillion to $1 trillion would lead to a reduction of approximately 8 to 15 new drugs coming to market over the next 10 years."
To be sure, it's hard to argue with the premise of Trump's order: Americans do pay much more for new drugs than people in other countries, even though the majority of those drugs are developed and manufactured here. But that extra cash doesn't just line the pockets of CEOs and shareholders, it also actively funds the development of future drugs. And Trump's order—if it even passes constitutional muster—would directly jeopardize that.
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Still not understanding what MFN is are you guys.
There is no control in price. They just get the same price as the lowest offered price to other nations. The only controls are those of other nations.
The order directed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to "communicate most-favored-nation price targets to pharmaceutical manufacturers," meaning the companies must charge
Apparently, the distinction between "..."communicate"..." and "must charge" is above the Assistant Editor paygrade at Reason.
To be fair, Lancaster is pretty stupid.
That’s putting it mildly.
Also ACA largely drove prescription to be forced into largely subsidized Healthcare plans. Often at worse results than prior.
https://www.goodrx.com/hcp-articles/providers/aca-impact-prescription-access
And Reason staff only complained that Republicans didn't have a replacement centrally planned program.
It did the same with insurance premiums. My 2013 Assurant policy cost me about $255/mo. For a mid range individual policy. The best plan I could buy in Washington in 2014 under ACA was inferior in most respects and cost around $550/mo.. the whole thing was just a bullshit treasonous power grab by the democrats.
We really do need to get rid of them, now.
Things Trump and his defenders have in common with the leftists they hate.
Redefinition of terms. For example "jurisdiction" "due process" "emergency".
Yay taxes! They love those tariffs.
Bigger and bigger budgets. Yay debt and deficit!
Criticism of their Dear Leader is a mental illness.
Leftists can't decide right or wrong unless they know the gender, race, etc about the people involved. Trump defenders can't decide right or wrong unless they know the politics of the people involved.
New the list: price controls. Bad when Democrats do it. Wonderful when Trump does it.
Keep screaming like a monkey Shreek or whoever you are.
This policy doesn’t offend me in the abstract.
I’d restrict the comparison to the EU and there has to be some mechanism to prevent patent breaking when pharma doesn’t offer discounts.
While it is true that pharmaceuticals are ridiculously expensive, there are several things wrong with what Trump is doing. First off he's once again ruling by decree. If this is to be done it needs to be done by Congress, not by presidential diktat. Second there's nothing in the Constitution that gives the federal government this power. And finally it will result in less research and possibly shortages.
Considering how Trump's defenders want a dictator who ignores Congress' role in the government and the Constitution in general while implementing economically ignorant policies, they will defend this like they defend everything else.
And exactly how is Trump ignoring the Constitution or Congress? Please provide links and citations.
He can’t and won’t.
The MFN clauses are already in agreements including with the WTO.
So nothing you said is correct. It is just enforcement of what is already passed.
Lots of retardation for one post buddy. Save some for later.
Literally you gave a list of words you dont understand.
You literally demanded more income taxes at higher cost than tariffs just thus morning.
The budgets are actually lower as you were told this morning, a decrease in spending. And this after you attacked all the DOGE audits to find cuts.
Just hilarious.
Sarc screams for budget cuts. Then screams when there are budget cuts.
Oh, one more thing to add: People who make too much money should be punished. Well, certain people that is. Only difference between leftists and Trump defenders is who they exempt from that rule.
What about people who spend all their money on Colt 45 and Boone’s Farm?
""People who make too much money should be punished.""
No one should be punished for that. The left wants a wealth tax to take their money. What does Trump supporters want?
Elimination of SALT deductions?
Again. You cheered the suits against Trump, Jones, Giuliani, and fox.
You defended the covid vaccines and the government subsidies and demand for them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Usually you are sharper than this comment.
Price controls this is not. An attempt to get the nations free riding on all of our medical research and development is a positive step and is NOT a price control.
All the drug companies need to do is spread the development costs out to include more than USA taxpayers.
Requiring drug companies to sell to the people who pay the development costs at the same price as the free riders is not a price control as all it takes is to raise the prices the lowest nation pays.
Do you have a better idea of how to fairly share the costs of developing new medicines???
Narrator: he is not usually sharper than this.
Once again, my problem is not with the what it is with the how.
detrimental to the American health care market.
The development and marketing of new prescription drugs has nothing to do with making people healthier.
Citation? Did the Lizard People tell You that? Have You given up ALL use of medicines? Or have we now reached "peak medicines wonderfulness", and all NEW stuff is BAD?
It couldn't be about making money. Jesus Christ you are retarded. Just fucking retarded. How do people as stupid as you are exist?
What a cumpelling and data-driven argument!
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Tim time again? Perhaps SQRLSY would benefit from being given hundreds of shallow paper cuts, then coated with salt.
It should be set on fire and them thrown into a barrel of acid.
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Unread is by far my favorite comment to sqrsly. Makes him so angry.
It appears to love my comments about having it put down. It always responds. Although I only see a grey box.
So we do have an issue with the somewhat freer US market enabling the pharmaceutical companies to use the US consumer to subsidize the purchases of the government run health care monopsonies in the rest of the developed world. The world wide pharmaceutical market is not anywhere near a free market, and outside of the US many drugs are not available. Trump has decided that this is an intolerable situation, though this might not be the optimsl way to try and rectify the issue. It may end up bringing the whole rotten system down, especially if foreign health care organizations like the British NHS have to pay more realistic drug prices than they are currently.
The drug companies have to make their big money in the USA because this is the only country that allows direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription drugs.
Yeah, I could do without those money laundering ads.
It is now 1:27 Eastern Daylight Time and the Shrike franchise and all of its sock puppets are nowhere to be found. Is it possible that Shrike is Elias Rodriguez?
Or maybe law enforcement finally caught up with him. Perhaps he got killed during the ‘execution’ of a no knock warrant. Which would be hilarious if his jurisdiction is run by democrats and the cops who shoot him are black. Maybe he gets shot while doing his Tim Scott impersonation.
The retarded statist probably is still face down in his 55-gallon drum of Ben & Jerry’s.
Oh, I was referring to Pluggo, but yeah MAPedo Jeffy should suffer a horrific outcome as well. Given his obsession with southern borders, I thought it might be appropriate for some gang bangers from MS-13 to serially rape him, then slowly vivisection him with a dull machete while he’s still conscious. He should be ok with that, given that it doesn’t bother him when other American citizens meet such fates at the hands of criminal illegals.
Yeah, where’s Fatfuck and Pluggo?
Waiting for act blue talking points.
Thank you. I’m glad to see others here are adopting the ‘Fatfuck’ monicker for MAPedo Jeffy.
is negotiating with defense contractors also price controls?
the government is a party to the transaction in both cases
show me another market where the highest volume customer pays the highest price
This is exactly my thinking.
>>detrimental to the American health care market
yay! the "American health care market" needs a New New Order too.
Just tell me, are we getting a new COVID vaccine this year or not?
Count on it.
I just learned that Vinay Prassad is now the "vaccine czar" (there's a real title I forget). So at least the new vaccine won't be pushed on healthy people.
Wait, what? Do you mean Jay Bhattacharya? Did Trump appoint Vinay to something too? Jesus, if that's the case, I [literally] won the fucking pick-6 horse racing bet.
Holy Jeebus mother of Pearl... you are 187% correct.
Yeah, I was very pleased to see that.
Repeal the Great Society. LBJ go away!
Repeal the democrat party. And any RINO collaborators.
NIce try but it wasn't for that reason at all
1 minute video about why pharmaceuticals and lumber and steel must be brought home for national security
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkwIzpuRYE
It’s completely irrational to depend on Red China for our medicines.
We depend on them for our viruses, why not the vaccines too?
Ok, I’m sold.
Are other countries price controls causing fewer drugs? Or will it be just ours?
It’s America’s job to subsidize the socialist aspirations of Marxist European countries.
Defense and drugs.
And likely more. This should end, or we should collect ribute.
I don't love the policy, but the current situation is so fucked that I'm not so sure it's any worse than what we have now. And how many new drugs are any good? I'm not convinced that slightly less R&D money for pharma is going to be a disaster.
Maybe more things should be OTC and not covered by insurance. Have a real market for drugs for a change.
And how many new drugs are any good?
Not that many. That's why R&D costs so much. They follow many, many expensive dead ends before they come up with something that looks promising. And then they have to jump through all the expensive FDA hoops.
My problem with this (and pretty much everything else Trump is doing) is not so much the what, but the how. I'm getting tired of him ruling by diktat as if his word is law. There's a word for that. Penis + potato.
As you said earlier, the solution to too much government interference is not more interference. If Trump wants to make these drugs cheaper, first thing he should be doing is looking into how much cost FDA compliance adds to R&D. Not issuing price controls by presidential decree.
Pen and phone, anyone?
Your problem with this is you didn't bother to read what was actually ordered, you just hate Trump.
This has nothing to do with R&D costs or thr FDA dumbass. It has to do with actual price controls of other nations forcing drugs sold at a loss so they up the sales price here.
Sarc is a rabid drunk. And should be dealt with just like every other rabid creature.
If you were the biggest customer of a company would a negotiating stance of "the price to us should match the lowest price you charge to others" be a problem for you? If so, what would that problem be; if not why is it a problem here?
The problem is that the government is the biggest consumer of the product in the world. But as I said, the change doesn't make the problem worse than the present fucked up way it works, so if it does more good than harm relative to the present situation, why not?
This is what you call duct-taping a leaky pipe which never works.
The roots of the problem is 'Guns' don't do healthcare.
They just STEAL by Gun-Force.
In as much as it is not a justifiable excuse to Rob a Bank because you suffer an illness; likewise Gov-Guns robbing the people is no better. Once the people acknowledge there is no Justice EVERYONE for ANY REASON will be robbing the Bank. As is completely on display with today's UN-Constitutional Government.
You want affordable healthcare? STOP STEALING! It's a Zero-Sum resources game. For every item STOLEN; the price has to be shoveled off on the innocent making it UN-Affordable for everyone else. GUNS DO NOT MAKE SH*T!
meaning the companies must charge Americans the lowest price that any other country was getting for the same drug.
I find it very hard to believe that Reason dot com has an issue with this.
Oh wait, you're not libertarians - you're communists.
They dont actually want free markets. They want disadvantaged markets for the US.
That's the conclusion I keep coming to. Their "libertarian" principles somehow always seem to be against American borders and culture while favoring foreign and domestic socialists.
I mean, this is definitely not a libertarian policy. But neither is the status quo. So it's really got to be judged on utilitarian grounds.
Indeed.
How is standard market pricing no matter what customer not a libertarian policy?
And especially given the government already has their heavy hands on both sides of this industry, as you allude to.
Pharma can price their goods at any price. They just can't differ based on nation with this guidance.
It's not a libertarian policy because the government being a major purchaser of drugs is not a libertarian policy. And "standard market pricing" in a market dominated by huge government controlled purchasers around the world isn't exactly the market pricing I'd like to see. I'm willing to accept that not all questions have an answer based purely on libertarian principle. Sometimes the least worst is the best you can do.
I agree. This is what Dave Smith was talking about at the debate. The government is already heavily involved. The violation has already happened. Not allowing a voice to the people for what is already violated is not libertarian.
Too many times libertarians make arguments as if the system is ideal when it is not.
Price controls are idiotic, almost on par with socialism.
The ban on re-importing price-controlled drugs from other nations is what should be lifted. Every other country is getting a free ride on American innovation. Reimport the cheap drugs and see how fast pharma cuts off Canada et al.
All things considered, most foreign countries should be paying us tribute at this point.
The other countries will not allow the reimportation in the US past a certain volume rate. Letting that happen will screw their relationship with the pharmaceutical companies.
they can try, but the us gov should not be helping or even care
Trump has no authority to mandate lower drug prices.
Elizabeth Warren has left the chat.
I provided it to you less than a week ago.
The president does not have the authority to mandate price controls.
That’s a slogan, not a citation. But since you’re Tony, we all know you’re too dumb to back up your gibbering.
These aren't price controls. They are MFN asks which are already in our WTO treaties and various trade agreements. You know this because I ready provided you the evidence.
This means you're intentionally lying now.
Except he’s not telling them what they have to charge, he told HHS to tell them they can’t charge the government (their largest buyer btw) more than they charge other countries.
Tony doesn't know what words means. He just knows what slogans he is told to use.
It is a complete falsehood to assert there is any kind of Healthcare "market". Insurance, required insurance, hospitals, pharmaceuticals doctors and the government are in complete collusion as an organized criminal mess controlling everything, and ensuring their salaries and profits are high. There is not one bit of consumer choice inherent to a "market". This is worse than a communist grocery store.
You make a compelling argument for single payer system.
No, he didn’t.
Fucking commies always think they’re entitled to other peoples labor.
More proof you are retarded.
I have a PhD. I am an idiot, not retarded.
It's a click bait title - based on begging the question: Will price controls reduce innovation! If pharmaceutical companies to can sell products to other nations at such a reduced rate, then the pressure on innovation will normalize pricing globally- the drug business must innovate or perish. It's not critical that the Americans be gouged while the rest of the planet get's discounts.
I have no more patience for the US subsidizing socialist spending by foreign countries around the world. It ends now.
Why don't we get rid of existing price distortions before we add new ones?
Uhm, not if *everyone* we're paying the RD bill and not just Americans.
Poor countries can pay marginally more, other rich countries are still perfectly free to sell drugs at higher prices to cover new RD.
Trump again says to stop fucking over Americans. Reason takes issue with that.
I'm happy giving pharma the middle finger for making us subsidize socialist countries. It's pretty fucked up that they jack up the prices on us as individuals and taxpayers have to pay again for the people on medicare using them.