Even by Elon Musk's Own Demonstrably Unreliable Estimation, DOGE Will Fall Far Short of His Target
The cost cutter's current projection of annual "savings" is 85 percent lower than the goal he set two months ago—and even that number can't be trusted.

Shortly before last fall's presidential election, Elon Musk breezily estimated that a second Trump administration could reduce annual federal spending by "at least" $2 trillion. At a press conference in February, the billionaire entrepreneur, who at that point had been unofficially overseeing the cost-cutting project known as the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) for a few weeks, cut that estimate in half, saying he expected that DOGE would find about $1 trillion in annual savings by attacking "waste and fraud." During a Cabinet meeting last Thursday, Musk downgraded his target again, saying, "We anticipate savings in FY26 from reduction of waste and fraud [of] $150 billion."
Musk, who credited President Donald Trump's "fantastic leadership," "this amazing Cabinet," and "the very talented DOGE team," said he was "excited to announce" that figure. But it amounts to 93 percent less than his original estimate, 85 percent less than the goal he thought was realistic two months ago, and about 2 percent of federal spending last fiscal year. That is quite a comedown, especially since this seems to be all that Musk expects to accomplish: DOGE sunsets on July 4, 2026, a few months before the end of FY 2026. Worse, it is doubtful, given the numerous errors that have been found in data reported by DOGE, that even the new, much more modest projection can be trusted.
"They're just spinning their wheels, citing in many cases overstated or fake savings," Romina Boccia, director of budget and entitlement policy at the Cato Institute, told The New York Times a few days ago. "What's most frustrating is that we agree with their goals. But we're watching them flail at achieving them."
Despite Musk's dramatically downgraded goal, the Times notes, DOGE is "still overstating its progress." The estimate is inflated "by including billion-dollar errors, by counting spending that will not happen in the next fiscal year—and by making guesses about spending that might not happen at all."
The estimate that Musk offered at the Cabinet meeting is roughly the same as the $155 billion in "estimated savings" that DOGE claims on its website, which is up from $140 billion at the beginning of the month. Although Musk implied that all those savings would be realized in fiscal year 2026, the website does not distinguish between annual and total savings, and many of the items listed on its "Wall of Receipts" include spending reductions that span several years.
The "estimated savings" include "asset sales, contract/lease cancellations and renegotiations, fraud and improper payment deletion, grant cancellations, interest savings, programmatic changes, regulatory savings, and workforce reductions." At least two of those categories seem dubious: Asset sales are a one-time source of revenue rather than an annual source of savings, while "regulatory savings," assuming that phrase refers to a reduction in costs imposed on the private sector, do not necessarily imply any reduction in government spending.
DOGE has publicly itemized just 40 percent of its claimed savings, all of which fall into one of two listed categories. It claims to have saved $33 billion by canceling grants, $28 billion by canceling contracts, and $350 million by canceling leases.
News organizations have been highlighting problems with those numbers for months. On February 19, when DOGE was claiming $16.5 billion in contract savings, NPR found that the actual number, based on confirmed cancellations, was about $2 billion—88 percent less. DOGE's hyperbole was so pervasive that Manhattan Institute budget expert Jessica Riedl, in a February 28 interview with New York Times columnist David French, described its work as "government spending-cut theater," saying "most of what is claimed to be spending cuts are just accounting errors."
Although DOGE has revised or deleted some erroneous line items after journalists pointed out its mistakes, the general pattern of exaggeration continues. The Times notes that DOGE claims to have saved $318,310,328 by canceling an Office of Personnel Management contract that was never awarded.
That line item refers to "a request for proposal that the Office of Personnel Management had published, seeking bids for help with human-resources work," the Times reports. "When announcing these requests, government agencies describe the work they want done. Contractors submit proposals, with both a plan and a price. The government can choose one vendor, or several. Even after that, it often negotiates with them to push the price below their original bids."
In an interview with the Times, Steven L. Schooner, an expert on federal contracting at George Washington University, called DOGE's precise-seeming figure "silly" and "garbage" because "you don't know what's going to happen" by the end of the bidding process, which might have resulted in substantially less spending, especially in any given fiscal year, or no contract at all. DOGE addresses those uncertainties by describing this "contract termination" as a "solicitation." It nevertheless counts the entire figure as "savings."
DOGE is still listing a $1.9 billion IRS tech support contract with Centennial Technologies that was terminated during the Biden administration. After the Times noted that mistake, the contract disappeared from DOGE's list, but now it is back. It is the second-largest item on DOGE's "Wall of Receipts."
The third-largest item "comes from a canceled grant to a vaccine nonprofit," the Times notes. Although "Musk's group says that saved $1.75 billion," the organization "said it had actually been paid in full, so the savings was $0."
You get the idea. If the 40 percent share of "estimated savings" that DOGE has itemized is riddled with errors like these, it is hard to have much faith in the spending reductions it claims in vague categories such as "programmatic changes" and "fraud and improper payment deletion."
That last category alone potentially could generate much more savings than the total Musk is now claiming. Last year, the Government Accountability Office estimated that "the federal government could lose between $233 billion and $521 billion annually to fraud." During his address to Congress last month, Trump claimed DOGE already had identified "hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud," which clearly was not true. Even if you believe DOGE's numbers (which you shouldn't), the actual total in this category has to be substantially less than $94 billion—the unitemized share of "estimated savings," which also includes "asset sales," "interest savings," "programmatic changes," "regulatory savings," and "workforce reductions."
Last week, Musk cited one example of fraud that DOGE had identified: "people getting unemployment insurance who haven't been born yet." He did not elaborate on exactly how that might work or attach a dollar value to it. But he implied that finding "waste and fraud" is easy: "People ask me, 'Well, how are you going to find waste and fraud in the government?' And I'm like, 'Well, actually, just go in any direction. That's how you find it. It's just—it's very common. As the military would say, [it is a] target-rich environment."
Although that rings true, the task of rooting out "waste and fraud" clearly has proven more difficult than Musk anticipated. It was always implausible that DOGE could "cut the budget deficit in half" simply by insisting on "competence and caring," as he claimed in February. But even by his own demonstrably unreliable estimation, he is coming up far short of what could be achieved through a serious, sustained effort.
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2 months in, a total failure. Just quit.
It's official. Reason has come out against libertarianism.
Give them a break. The Trump-Musk break things approach has suddenly threatened the establishment they depended on, even as they occasionally critiqued it.
Reason liber/liberal-tarians: "We demand freedom and smaller government!"
Trump/Musk: "We are cutting government so you can have more freedom."
Reason liber/liberal-tarians: "Wait, not that much freedom!"
Indeed. Reason has destroyed what shred of credibility they had left.
And that’s being charitable.
You can't live in the swamp as long as the Reason staff has done and not become swamp creatures. They are every bit as reliant on the swamp as the Biden crime family.
It's the cocktail parties!
So far all I've heard from the Reasonistas and the comment Democrats is either "Woah! Pump the breaks! No changes until congress gets off its ass" or else "It's been two whole months and they haven't cut two trillion yet!".
No actual discussion about the findings, just how it's all wrong and they should stop.
If you do not completely solve all problems, it not worth solving any at all.
If you do not completely solve all problems--immediately, at zero cost, and without any disruption at all--...
Also Reason: "See, I told you so!"
Granted, Musk has Trump hyperbole factor, too. But Reason has fought tooth and nail right alongside everyone suing the administration trying to stop each and every action along the way. Oh sure, an occasional "Maybe getting rid of *this* is a good idea, but he's doing it all wrong!".
DOGE claims to have saved $150,000,000,000 and the federal government spends $16,000,000,000 a day.
That means that, at best, DOGE saved less than ten days worth of federal spending.
Ten days worth, if the estimates are correct.
That's between two and three percent. Better than nothing, but still pretty damn close to nothing.
Boy, if only Congress was on the job, think of the progress!
2 to 3 percent is not "pretty damn close to nothing"
It is when you're a dedicated ActBlue parroting, MSNBC-watching, Tesla-burning, card-carrying Democratic Party shill like Sarcasmic, who's having a hell of a time trying to pretend he's a libertarian.
He should try emulating a dead parrot.
He's gonna cut trillions! He's got a chainsaw! He's gonna balance the budget!
Less than three percent?
Mission accomplished! Shut up! I mean shut up!
3 months in, call a failure.
His goal was never even a trillion retard.
It was 500B.
The other 500B was tax revenue increases.
Even $150 billion is a lie.
Better estimate is $20 billion in this FY.
I used the word "claims" on purpose.
You don't even know what the claims are based on your above post dumdum.
It has been amusing you be against all cuts while demanding increased income taxes. Like a one true libertarian.
Where are you two clowns getting your phony numbers from?
Certain body orifices (orifici?), when not using them for other activities.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
So, in Reason/Fiona math, $600B.
Another way to look at it: they’ve allegedly saved 1/6th of the money spent since they started.
Another another way to look at it: if they’ve saved 150,000,000,000 over 60 days, that’s about 2.5Billion per day. At 365 days, that would be a little over 900Billion.
But I will concede those takes require a certain amount of optimism.
Optimism toward Trump/Musk is not allowed. Only Nazis prefer smaller government.
Even that is an unverified claim.
I think they are trying too hard to keep the size and scope of government. There are probably 1000 agencies that can just die.
There are probably 1000 agencies that can just die.
I agree 100%. Thing is, those agencies are mostly created by Congress, which means Congress has to change laws. Problem is that Trump has shown zero interest in working with the Republican majority in Congress to do things legislatively.
That means everything Trump is doing is just a show.
You were going to shit on any effort no matter what, Sarc, as you’re nothing more than a shill here.
"Problem is that Trump has shown zero interest in working with the Republican majority in Congress to do things legislatively."
Can you explain the basis of this claim? Because I have seen numerous meetings, tweets and there are in fact bills being drafted in Congress to "do things legislatively"- e.g. DOGE Acts Package and the DOGE Act.
You...you know this, right? It isn't a secret.
No, he doesn’t. He only knows what MSNBC and CNN tell him.
If your sole source of news is corporate media, it's a secret.
Do those bills have a chance of passing the Senate or can the Dems filibuster them?
The house/senate passed resolutions already have wording in there to make the process easier.
Bills that lower the overall spending rate are considered under reconciliation and don't require a 60 vote senate, just majority vote.
Even if they don’t have a chance at passing (granting the reconciliation route, it’s still possible there’s enough NeverTrumper RINO douchebags to tank such measures), the fact that they exist puts lie to the idea that the administration isn’t following every avenue.
If you can't be perfect, don't bother even trying.
A fine comment but we not talking anywhere near perfect here we are talking about a chaotic mess.
Yes, that is a good description of the Federal Bureaucracy.
Is that what Racheal Maddow told you?
No, your wife did.
Or you can claim imperfection and assert you were still somewhat successful.
There is no evidence that Musk has cut anything.
Asshole claims fraud. Not one fraudster has been indicted.
"There is no evidence that Musk has cut anything."
Well, that's surely because Musk has no authority to cut anything at all. Musk and his crew can and have only made recommendations, and the President and/or Secretaries have made the cuts or changes recommended. Or not, because not every DOGE recommendation has been acted upon.
Fine JS. You win. Nothing will get cut since it isn't perfect.
From the tone of the article Sullum is clearly pleased that DOGE is struggling to do more.
Why is that?
*Scratches chin*
What a puzzler.
It is a baffling choice of KMW to keep printing so many people who are antithetical to the magazine's stated mission. Sullum is one of their biggest contributors and has been absolutely terrible in 95% of his articles.
Time to realize the site's STATED goal is not their ACTUAL goal.
Is KMW any less swampy than Sullum? Doesn't seem like it.
Why?
Because he hates lying blowhards like Leon Musk.
How has he lied, you perverted child molesting fuck?
You’re a lying blowhard. You also traffic in child porn, and rape children.
The silver lining of reason destroying themselves is that it will make it very easy for me to eventually buy it out and take control. Once that happens, I promise that your information will fall into the hands of the rightful authorities and everyone in your community.
Enjoy your freedom while you still have it.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Are you intentionally misnaming him? I'm told that even mispronouncing a name is racist. Refusal to use him chosen name is even worse.
He’s a hypocritical shitbag?
JS;dr.
JS;dr
RMnGL;dr
(Reason Magazine not Good Liz; didn’t read)
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Good Liz is dead. There's only ReasonGPT now. Only topic choice separates the "editors" at this point.
Good Liz isn't Good Liz much these days.
JS;dr
yay? lolwtf
Embarrassing.
I wonder how much better DOGE would be doing if it didn't have to deal with the lawfare of the government critters?
“Only old Benjamin professed to remember every detail of his long life and to know that things never had been, nor ever could be much better or much worse—hunger, hardship, and disappointment being, so he said, the unalterable law of life.”
How far would he have failed had he never started?
A lot less.
Musk and The Orange One are just purging their enemies. There's no proper political theory behind anything they're doing. On the other hand, we Libertarians would have had a much easier and a far more principled time of it - if it's not mentioned in the Constitution as something the federal government is supposed to do, then shut it down. Easy peasy.
You'd still complain about it. I've never seen you actually cite the constitution.
Trump defenders, like leftists, look to the Constitution for what the president cannot do. They reject enumerated powers. Just like leftists. For Trump defenders, leftists, and other totalitarians, they feel their leader can do what which is not prohibited. Meaning power only limited by the Bill of Rights, which they claim means something other than what it says. Leftists and Trumpians are very alike. The difference is who, not what.
Even after an article that told you they were using the recission process on most of these cuts, you persist in talking points.
Alright Sarckles, you retarded drunken fuck, why don't you and your Shrike sock girlfriend tell us how an audit is going to purge enemies.
If you said "stop funding enemies", yah okay, but purging? Fuck off.
How many times does someone have to bang their head off concrete before they can achieve your IQ?
Far more than the tootsie roll owl.
Anastasia Beaverhausen is a lying pile of steaming lefty shit.
we Libertarians
You wouldn't know Libertarian if you were choking on it.
December 6, 2024 6:00am EST
By Breck Dumas | FOX Business
When Elon Musk was asked on the campaign trail how much he believes the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) could "rip out" from the Biden-Harris administration's $6.5 trillion budget, he said, "I think we could do at least $2 trillion."
The guy is such an obvious failure. Will never get anywhere in life.
I wish there were emoges here. 😀
The Bluesky missionaries on X are actually trying to claim this right now.
And, by their retarded criteria, he probably has.
Which reveals more about the total failure of the left than Elon.
Hey, shit-for-brains, tell us about PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering they bloated up the budget using the supposed one time Covid spending as their new baseline, he wasn’t fucking front that there is at least $2Trillion that could be cut.
You know, because America wasn’t some hellish landscape where roving bands of children ate garbage in 20fucking19.
I could cut about $4.5T, but people would be mad and lawsuits would fly, and Congress would have to man up and approve the cuts that need legislative authority. Assuming some judges don't tell Congress that they can't pass laws the eliminate or at least stop funding medicaid, SS, medicare, pretty much every Cabinet department...
Amazing, the waste, fraud , and abuse goes evn past his imagination and the protections for it are deeply entrenched.
And no one indicted for all this fraud.
Better we didn't try at all, eh Sullum?
You know what is really important though?
U SAID is gone.
Hey look, everybody! A "libertarian" is cheering on the fact that reducing the size of the federal government is hard and is tacitly rooting for DOGE to fail!
Admit it, Sullum: you're just a left-wing big government globalist pretending to be a libertarian because it's fashionable and you can use it to cover up your Stalinist/Maoist views.
This^
Not to mention a steaming pile of TDS-addled lying shit.
Sullum is a regime cuck.
It's not like it's a secret. We've known this for a long time.
To reduce government spending, Calvin Coolidge cut every federal employee's pay by 25%. That's what we need.
I’m pretty sure the current crop of government employees got sweetheart contracts through their unions and then got Dems in Congress to pass laws to make it harder to do that (let alone fire them).
And they will 'judiciary-shop' to find a TDS-addled judge willing to claim that Trump is in violation of some invented 'constitutional issue', until it's pointed out it's nothing of the sort.
Repeating myself: The swamp critters have sucked the wealth of the nation for at least 50 years. There are billions of dollars at stake here; look at the Biden crime family as an example.
Sullum, as a TDS-addled slimy pile of swamp-dwelling lefty shit, is simply defending his backsheesh.
Sullum produces nothing of value; it's not like the slimy pile of shit even offers lemon aide.
Fuck off and die, Sullum; the world will thank your family, shit-stain.
It is harder than he thought, given that nearly every pig at the government trough is fighting tooth and nail to keep spending, spending, spending.
JS;dr.
DOGE is a joke and has been since the start. The idea is that you put this known person in charge and he lets a bunch of computer rugrats loose and you get something worthwhile Well, what do you get chaos for starts. Musk's efforts reminds me of the Cat in the Hats, except for the clean-up at the end. Cutting Federal spending is not a willy nilly thing it takes hard work, something I suspect Musk, and his crew are not really up for.
Yes, musk has a well deserved reputation for being lazy , afraid of hard work and never accomplishing anything.
I won't speak for Musk's private enterprises, but there is no evidence of hard work being done on DOGE. For example, DOGE reported on a large number of people in the SS system over 100 years old. It never really took the time to understand why this occurred and the complexities of getting those names out of the system. It never understood that those people are not really collecting checks. So, Musk did the easy work of calling out the problem, a problem already publicly known. He failed to do the harder follow-up work that would be needed to correct the problem.
You make the same common mistake of assuming that a person running out and moving a lot is actually working when they sometime are not.
For example, DOGE reported on a large number of people in the SS system over 100 years old. It never really took the time to understand why this occurred and the complexities of getting those names out of the system. It never understood that those people are not really collecting checks. So, Musk did the easy work of calling out the problem, a problem already publicly known. He failed to do the harder follow-up work that would be needed to correct the problem.
What a load of horseshit. "Everybody knew the system was fucked up. Musk only shined a light on it. They can't/won't fix it."
2 months. Almost 3. It's not fixed yet, better give up.
The guy who catches rockets out of thin air couldn’t possibly figure out how to correct entries on a computer database, because it’s so complicated.
Jacod Sullum, what it the point and how would you act?
Eliminate DOGE?
To me identifying 1 million dollars of waste, abuse or fraud, while just a drop in the bucket is a move in the right direction. I don't get my undies in a bunch because a politician makes a claim that is unrealistic. If you haven't noticed it before then shame on you for keeping your head in the sand. Reality is that all politicians are liars or grossly over exaggerate to communicate. Trump is no different and neither is Elon Musk who as a special employee acting on the behalf of Trump.
Will some errors be made, sure, however the previous entity that Obama created than was transformed by Trump into DOGE, didn't have much of a track record of success. I'm not faulting any efforts to reduce waste, abuse or fraud from the federal government, not even if the efforts were set into place by either Obama or Trump.
When I say all efforts to reduce waste, abuse or fraud are welcome, I really mean it and am not being a partisan hack who opposes an effort because the other side is making the effort. Frankly, we simply can't expect to remain as an intact country with the levels of waste, abuse and fraud that exist coupled with the fiscal insolvency we have even if it is masked because the dollar is currently the reserve currency.
DOGE is a good thing, and being loud about it is a good thing. Actually, DOGE is a GREAT thing, and needs to be LOUDER. Will they hit their goals, not likely, however the goal is more to reset the mentality of reigning in government spending. Hopefully Trump will not spend the savings on other priorities, which is more of a fear for me.
$150 billion is still a greater reduction than anything else that didn't involve ending a major war or entitlement program.
Greater by orders of magnitude.
As others have said, without legislation to actively reduce the scope of departments, there are hard limits.
A few years ago, senator Rand Paul suggested the "Penny Plan", where we shrink the federal budget by one penny on each dollar of the government's spending till it balances. Then three years ago he formulated the five year "Six Penny Plan". Reason loved them both. But somehow; what is admitted to be a 2% reduction in federal spending is now not good enough, here at "Reason".
My own plan is to simply not INCREASE the budget by even one penny for about 5-6 years. Look at revenues vs expenditures, and the lag is about 5-6 years going back 30+ years.
Sullum is an unrepentant liar so I'm certain he is distorting or omitting truth, but even if this were true, so fucking what?
Cost savings and cutting Federal spending should not be the goal of "DOGE" whatever DOGE might be. Their original tactic of firing everyone in a Federal office or department regardless of court orders forbidding it was a good one. It is the tactic they are pursuing in the balance of trade tariff war and the throwing people out of the country effort. Why are they pulling their punches on cutting government bureaucracy now when they don't have to?
I'm not convinced DOGE's mission is what they say it is.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-one-billion-dollars-doge-163003613.html
The Department of Government Efficiency’s website quietly removed nearly one billion dollars in what it claims to have “saved” through canceled contracts, grants or leases this past week.
In the latest example of altering figures on the agency’s website, staffers at DOGE seemingly updated its claimed savings overnight on Tuesday, erasing approximately $962 million, according to NOTUS.