Will the U.S. Bomb Iran Over a Nuclear Weapons Program That Doesn't Exist?
Iran isn’t building a nuclear weapon, the Trump administration says. But this hasn’t stopped the march toward war.

Iran's nuclear weapons program is like Schrödinger's cat: It both does and doesn't exist at the same time.
Last week, National Security Adviser Mike Waltz told ABC that "Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. All options are on the table to ensure it does not have one. And that's all aspects of Iran's program. That's the missiles, the weaponization, the enrichment." But this week, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard told the Senate that "Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader [Ali] Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003."
The seeming contradiction in the Trump administration's line is actually a fine-toothed distinction. Iran is currently enriching uranium up to 60 percent, according to a leaked report by United Nations nuclear inspectors. It's far above the 2 to 5 percent enrichment level used to fuel power plants, yet below the 90 percent necessary to build a bomb. As Gabbard said at the Tuesday hearing, "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile…is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."
Still, buying a lot of flour isn't the same thing as baking a cake. Iranian elites are openly debating whether they should build a bomb, with some arguing that Iranian nuclear policy should change if the country comes under more serious threat. Should Khamenei give a green light to weaponization, bringing the uranium from 60 percent to 90 percent enrichment would take a little under a week, and assembling a working bomb would take additional weeks to months.
Despite the high stakes of nuclear proliferation, the issue isn't well understood by the public. Leave aside complex technical details like different levels of uranium enrichment. Even basic facts are garbled in the public understanding. U.S. policy since the Bush administration has been to go to war to stop Iran from building a nuclear weapon bomb, but a majority of Americans believe that Iran already has nuclear weapons, according to a poll from 2021.
The confusion has so far benefited hawks. Although President Donald Trump has said that the "only thing" he's concerned about with Iran "is that they can't have a nuclear weapon," Waltz has been pushing a wide definition of "nuclear program," as he alluded to in his ABC interview. Last month, Trump signed a National Security Presidential Memorandum defining all nuclear fuel processing and "nuclear-capable" missiles (read: almost all long-range missiles) as part of "Iran's nuclear program."
The same memo also includes a laundry list of complaints unrelated to nuclear weapons, including that Iran supports the Houthi movement in Yemen, launched (non-nuclear) missile attacks on Israel last year, and "bears responsibility for the horrific Hamas massacres committed on October 7, 2023."
In fact, the Trump administration may attack Iran simply for refusing to talk. Trump sent a letter to Khamenei with a two-month deadline to reach a deal. The letter warned that "there would be military consequences if there was no direct negotiation," Gabbard said at her hearing.
On the other hand, Trump administration envoy Steven Witkoff told Tucker Carlson over the weekend that Trump really just wants a "verification program" for Iran's nuclear development. "Hawkish think-tanks in DC are starting to panic that Trump will settle" for a weaker version of the 2015 nuclear deal, writes Gregg Carlstrom, The Economist's correspondent for the Middle East.
After Trump's letter, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said that "the way is open" for negotiations. While Iran is still preparing a response to the letter, it may propose indirect talks mediated by the United Arab Emirates, reports Amwaj.media, a British news site.
The standoff over the Iranian nuclear program began in 2002, after Iran was discovered to be secretly enriching uranium. The Iranian government quickly shut down its research into nuclear weapons, but insisted that it had the right to keep enriching uranium for civilian research and nuclear power plants. In 2015, the U.S. and five other world powers agreed to lift economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for strict limits on the Iranian nuclear program.
Trump tore up that agreement in 2018, hoping to get a better deal. But his advisers introduced poison pills into diplomacy. Much like Waltz's demands, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a 12-point ultimatum that added up to total disarmament and regime change. Meanwhile, now-disgraced National Security Adviser John Bolton opposed efforts by Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) and French President Emmanuel Macron to get Trump in the same room with the Iranian foreign minister.
Bolton also undermined Trump's diplomacy with North Korea by demanding the "Libya model" of nuclear disarmament. (In case you've forgotten, Libya fell into civil war in 2011 and its leader was tortured to death by U.S.-backed rebels after giving up its nuclear program.) The Washington Post last month reported that Trump administration officials were demanding a "Libya-style abandonment of [Iranian] nuclear facilities."
If some aspects of U.S. policy today are reminiscent of the first Trump administration, others are an echo of the Bush administration. The National Security Presidential Memorandum accuses Iran of supporting Al Qaeda and trying "to embed sleeper cells in the Homeland" for "terrorist activity." These are vague, dubious accusations—as Carlson points out, zero "Americans have been killed by Iran on American soil" over the past two decades—and almost exactly the same ones that were lobbed at Iraq during the buildup to the 2003 war.
Just as in the Iraq War, hawks now seem determined to get their war whether or not they have the evidence to back their grievances. Carlstrom reports that Israel is on track to bomb Iran "within six months," at least according to U.S. intelligence.
"The absence of evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iran is not necessarily the evidence of absence," Jason Brodsky, policy director at the hawkish United Against Nuclear Iran nonprofit, told Israeli television on Tuesday. That line could have been lifted almost exactly from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's 2002 press conference making the case for war with Iraq.
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know," Rumsfeld said at the time. "We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."
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Get an act of war declared by congress before doing so.
Congress is already bought and paid for re a 'war' or aumf on Iran. Nor does any of your ilk even give a damn about how the govt can maneuver us into war. That would require holding Congress and govt accountable for a foreign policy based on knowledge rather than agenda/ideology - and that's the last thing you people care about. Hell - your ilk doesn't even accept street/campus protests against wars we fund and engage in absent congressional declarations.
Lot of ilk in reply to a single sentence.
His ilk diddles kids.
Ilk apparently has a high birth rate.
JFree is a sock for Molly.
What is my ilk?
Provide specific detail about me not giving a damn, especially in the context of my post; strawmen and other logical fallacies included is such response will be called out.
Who are “you people?”
Cite where “my ilk” have opposed war protests.
Thanks.
Everyone who has used the weaponized and cliched 'antisemitic' or other epithets against me personally when I post protests about the US, CURRENTLY and without a US war declaration, engaging in and funding acts of war - and yes genocide - against the people of Gaza - via Israel - is ilk. You don't give a shit about what the US is currently doing. You won't hold your own party or your own critters accountable for ANY act of war or genocide. The use of the epithets is for the sole purpose of stifling others via a form of hecklers veto. You will happily oppose any war protest - and presumably also support any deportation of anyone deportable on any flimsy legal anticonstitutional pretense whatsoever. Whatever you say about how the Constitution says we go to war is meaningless bullshit. Well there's a fucking reason the Constitution puts that war making and war funding power in Congress and it ain't intended to be a bureaucratic box-checking exercise.
I make one exception of not sticking people into the ilk category for that. That would be Jews of a certain age who somehow formed their ideas around 1967, who think Rabin is still alive and influential in Israel, who have ignored everything since then, and where my posts may have been hyperbolic. But I don't think that's you.
Don't get me wrong. I think you are a very clever wordsmith and I appreciate your posts. But I don't think you are worth a shit when it comes to getting the US in to or out of perma war - or understanding how the Constitution was structured to make that happen.
Please provide cites where I have taken the positions you allege. Thanks.
I don't record when others called me antisemitic or similar. But I don't invent that shit. Or forget it.
I’m asking for cites for all of your claims. So far, you have provided nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Ok. You're on mute.
JFree ; DR
>>Iran's nuclear weapons program is like Schrödinger's cat: It both does and doesn't exist at the same time.
you seem to be pretty fucking certain one way
Trump realized that his failure to start new wars during his first term made him look weak. He's not making that mistake again.
And yet another pathetic trolling attempt. Yawn.
"TRUMP WANT'S WW3!!!!... Also, Slava Ukraini!! Attack Putin!"
Team Trump looking to bring Russia back into SWIFT.
Russia needs to be able to buy more bombs for taking over more of eastern Europe, and for abducting more children! The is very SWIFT of Team Trump to support that!
"Will the U.S. Bomb Iran Over a Nuclear Weapons Program That Doesn't Exist?"
You may want to ask the Israelis if those wonderful, tolerant, and understanding humanitarians running Iran are building nukes.
At a minimum, they are keeping the option open. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/iran-nuclear-weapon.html
This article seems to have no point. It just wanders all over, repeating political statements as if they were truth. 60% is no big deal, it's way more than the 205% necessary for fuel, it's only a week away form 90% weapons grade. Bush said this, someone else said that, an Ayatollah said something, promised something, the regime did this, that and the other. We should believe this disgraced political hack but not that one.
What is this article trying to say, other than Orange Man Bad?
Mike Pompeo good!
If Iran isn't working on developing nuclear weapons, then they are morons.
Still, buying a lot of flour isn't the same thing as baking a cake.
How glib.
Don't want to bomb em, but also think we shouldn't have anything to do with them. Leave the sanctions on, and hell we are doing them a favor, they shouldn't want to do business with the Great Satan.
Despite the high stakes of nuclear proliferation, the issue isn't well understood by the public.
Screw you too, Matthew.
We understand it just fine.
Iran: bad.
Nuclear Iran: worse.
Bomb Iran. They hate us. They're openly calling for our deaths. The Sino-Russian alliance is taking full advantage of that.
Someone find Valerie Jarrett, lop off her head, scoop out her brains, pack the skull with high explosives, and mail it to Ali Khamenei.
The issue isn't well-understood by "Reason." It never seems to sink in that, although nuclear weapons are clearly "high risk," having nuclear weapons serves to reassure those nations who possess them as a deterrent to being pushed around by more powerful nations. For references, see also "Ukraine" and the "Colt Peacemaker."
Exactly. Notice which countries we feel perfectly fine bombing and invading, and pushing 'regime change' in - and which ones we tip-toe around.
For references, see also "Ukraine" and the "Colt Peacemaker."
Don't forget Moamar "look, guys, I got rid of my nuclear program just like you asked" Qaddaffy.
There is also a great deal of confusion inside "Reason." Apparently, the editors have not yet come to grips with the fact that what Trump says and what Trump does have very little to do with policy and a lot more to do with public relations and bargaining.
Lol. Trump sucks at public relations and bargaining.
Lol. Molly sucks at trolling. And by the way. It's claimed by some around here that you are a reincarnation of commenter Tony. I've lurked around here for quite a while and the Tony I remember was a gay guy from Oklahoma who I rarely agreed with but who actually made thoughtful good faith arguments on occasion. You on the other hand post dishonest cut and paste bullshit that just stinks the place up. If you are in fact Tony all I can say is get some fucking help. You're spiralling down the drain.
That was old Tony. New Tony seems to be just insane. I can believe that these are all socks of the same person today.
I've lurked around here for quite a while and the Tony I remember was a gay guy from Oklahoma who I rarely agreed with but who actually made thoughtful good faith arguments on occasion
And, credit where it's due, as infuriating as he can be, Tony is actually funny. Molly is not.
So is Molly old Tony new Tony or not Tony at all? I actually liked old Tony. So confusing.
I don't think Molly and Tony are related in any way. Certain people here are very invested in thinking that there's only like two left-wing trolls around who spend all day sock-puppeting elaborately invented personalities for some nefarious reason. There's one guy who thinks there's no one here but him and a bunch of sock puppets being run by Dave Weigel.
For my part, I'm pretty confident that Molly, Tony, SPB2, ModerationForever, Liberty_Belle, and charliehall are all different people.
charliehall reminds me of 'joe from lowell' for old-timers here.
It might be possible we are just civil-rights loving liberals.
Hahahahahahahahaha
That's my overall impression. I've muted most of those because it's just too tedious reading their rants. Still have Molly because her posts are short.
Thank you for recognizing that I am not Tony.
Tony was a lot more fun. But carry on.
JFree
Delicious lulz!
I'm no expert on the subject but I'll throw out some general speculation for debate. Trump hired and then fired John Bolton and has written a lot of mean Tweets about him. But he has also said he liked having him in the room when meeting with foreign leaders because he is batshit crazy and nobody knew what the fuck he would or could do. It's part of the art of the deal. Tulsi is the cooler head this time around and Waltz is the batshit crazy hawk. Trump has, I think, made it pretty clear that he prefers a deal that might include something like normalization. But carrots and sticks all the way down. This is typical Trump. He may or may not get the deal he wants but trying to analyze the minutia of every statement by every cabinet member at this point is a fool's errand. Trump is playing the long game for better or worse.
But sitting and waiting to see where the chips land takes too long in this 24/7 news media cycle.
Better to just speculate and be completely wrong 90% of the time. It’s not like they have to apologize for it later.
I think you may be on to something there.
What Trump is playing is for the worse. He is simply not credible at negotiating any deal that will involve follow through. He is too transactional and too focused on the signing ceremony being the only important element of 'the deal'.
Don't get me wrong. I do think his instincts in this are ok and he is imo very willing to go outside the box to negotiate. But as can be seen with what happened to Boehler - can't trust him to make a deal or follow through on anything with honesty.
He is too transactional and too focused on the signing ceremony being the only important element of 'the deal'.
I think there's something to that, yes, but I tend to agree with Martin Gurri's assessment that the chaos is actually what's positive about Trump.
Example: Trump wanders into the Israel-Palestine conflict and says "hey, I've got a great idea, let's just relocate the Palestinians to Egypt and Syria! We're already working on how we're going to make that happen!"
On the one hand, the suggestion itself shows a near-total lack of awareness of the history of what to do about the Palestinians that makes one want to facepalm.
On the other hand, it engenders a global "oh shit" moment where all the existing players realize that he's a bull raging through a China shop and that they need to get off their asses now and try to formulate a sane alternative rather than just continuing to let the situation fester like it has for 75 years, because Trump really is going to do something, and it may not be something existing players are comfortable with.
The Gaza proposal was not imo him wandering into the Middle East making a bold out of the box proposal. It was him being sold - by Netanyahu - on the 100 year Israeli objective of ethnic cleansing. And then Trump putting lipstick on that pig for a US audience.
No one in the Middle East is scrambling to do anything. They do not want ethnic cleansing or genocide but they know they can't stop it and they knew long ago that that is Israel's goal and only the US can stop it. Now it's the US overt goal too. So they will restate the 2003 solution again and add inshallah - إن شاء الله
>Still, buying a lot of flour isn't the same thing as baking a cake.
Certainly. But it is indicative that you're planning on baking *something*.
You stockpile fuel oil and ammonium nitrate - someone's gonna wanna take a look at what you're doin out there.
The thing is the use for MEU is pretty limited - are we expecting Iran to start deploying SMR's in the near future? Do we think they're going to try to build a nuclear submarine/ship? If not . . . well, the only other practical use is as a stepping stone to be able to more quickly produce HEU.
What's he building in there?
Oh shit. Are you a TW fan?
I can't believe one of you might actually have good taste in music.
I can't believe one of you might actually have good taste in music.
Maybe stop assuming everyone is a manifestation of some group you either like or hate everything about.
Dude, like Dubya said, "Yer either for us or agin' us".
Thus is the internet after 9/11.
You have shown that you are very much for children.
This one shocked me
That’s greatness.
Why not.
As Gabbard said at the Tuesday hearing, "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile…is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."
It is not at all unprecedented for a state that has nuclear power plants and has been the object of existential hostility (with wars against it) waged by the most powerful country in the world. Now by an administration that broke the nuclear agreements Iran had negotiated and that has proven itself to be incapable of ever delivering on any agreement it makes in future. With FIVE nuclear-armed enemies/neighbors.
The most rational thing in the world is for Iran to stockpile as much as they can. To research the miniaturization/etc to get those nukes into usable format. So that the nanosecond, that hostile superpower (or any of its five nuclear neighbors) attacks, Iran can defend itself. And it will be justified in using those nukes in that scenario.
They're not as stupid as North Korea - overtly waving their tiny little dick around even after they have 'proven' their nuclear status. South Korea should go for nukes in response - quietly and a bit more diplomatically than the NorKs. Not as stupid as Libya - who gave up their nuke program only to find themselves killed literally as the 'reward'. Not as stupid as Ukraine (or anyone in NATO) which relied on 'agreements' and 'security guarantees' from the US in order to give up nukes. You can bet Poland, Romania, Turkey, and possibly Germany is learning that lesson.
The US goal is explicitly to prevent Iran from ever even using or growing its use of nuclear power. It is a major reason 'nuclear power' as a 'green option' is bullshit. If small countries must get their energy future stamped 'approved' by superpowers first, then it ain't a green energy option.
""The most rational thing in the world is for Iran to stockpile as much as they can. To research the miniaturization/etc to get those nukes into usable format. So that the nanosecond, that hostile superpower (or any of its five nuclear neighbors) attacks, Iran can defend itself.""
The very opposite of a country that plans no nuclear weapon interest or ambition.
They are under existential threat from the US and have been for decades. We are still threatening them - after 23 years of them 'behaving' re their 'nuclear program's.
There is literally zero evidence of them having offensive intent. Or of 'ambition'. They have no nuclear program.
Self defense otoh legally allows for many actions that are not allowed in the absence of threats.
"There is literally zero evidence of them having offensive intent. Or of 'ambition'. They have no nuclear program."
Except for that whole "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" thing...
The author seems to have forgotten that Israel hauled off an entire truck load full of documents that outlined Iran's nuclear weapons program. IIRC, Iran wasn't currently 'building' a nuclear weapon, but the end goal of enriching all of that uranium is to someday have a working nuclear weapon.
Overall I agree with you. Libya was a lesson learned by the rest of the world and I would even go back to Noriega. The nuclear threat is paste out of the tube for a long time now and the idea that it can somehow be contained if we can stop Iran from enriching uranium seems more like theater than reality. There will always be bad actors somewhere. In fact we might be the bad actors. I personally believe that Muslim culture is dangerous to liberty. But it would be irrational for Iran to not pursue nuclear weapons based on the promises or threats of the US as a practical matter.