Trump Declares Tesla Vandals 'Domestic Terrorists'
It's far from the first case of terrorism inflation.

In recent weeks, numerous disaffected activists have protested Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk and the actions he has undertaken as the nominal head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). Amid nationwide protests that organizers have dubbed the "Tesla Takedown," some demonstrations have turned destructive: Activists have set fire to Tesla charging stations in Boston, fired gunshots into a dealership in Oregon, and vandalized vehicles and dealerships in numerous locales.
This week, President Donald Trump made a public show of faith in Musk. At the same time, he threatened to use the full force of the federal government against demonstrators by deeming them "domestic terrorists." If Trump follows through on his threat, the action would be a significant overreach, but it would also be consistent with recent American history.
In an appearance on the White House lawn with Musk in tow, Trump tested out five Tesla models and said he would buy one. A photographer snapped a picture of Trump's handwritten notes for the press event, which "read like a Tesla sales pitch," as Business Insider put it.
Trump also said his administration would crack down on the violence committed against his friend's business. In response to a reporter's question about calls to label the offenders "domestic terrorists," Trump said, "I will do that…because they're harming a great American company."
"You do it to Tesla, you do it to any company, we're going to catch you, and you're going to go through hell," Trump pledged.
Indeed, prosecuting offenders for destroying private property is fully within a government's power—though in the cases cited above, local authorities are better suited to the task than the feds.
But Trump's willingness to tar the offenders as terrorists is a bridge too far. Unfortunately, it's also perfectly consistent with American history in the 21st century.
Trump's allies within government jumped on the designation: "Ongoing and heinous acts of violence against Tesla by radical Leftist activists are nothing short of domestic terror," White House spokesperson Harrison Fields said.
In a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, eight members of Congress—led by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.), the chairwoman of the House DOGE Subcommittee—deemed the acts "domestic political terrorism" and suggested that "Antifa, known for their history of domestic terrorism," as well as certain non-governmental organizations affiliated with the Democratic Party, may be somehow involved. (The letter provided no evidence or citation for either claim, other than "reports suggest.")
Terrorism is a famously amorphous term, with no clear definition. "It is now a cliché to observe that, despite innumerable efforts to define terrorism, scholars are no nearer to arriving at a consensus," Martyn Frampton wrote in 2021's The Cambridge History of Terrorism.
The FBI defines domestic terrorism in particular as "violent, criminal acts" committed "to further ideological goals." But "violent, criminal acts" are by definition already illegal, and punishing them more severely because of their ideological motivation potentially constitutes viewpoint discrimination by the government, a violation of the First Amendment.
In fact, the FBI admits as much, preferring the term violent extremism instead. A November 2020 memo referenced the federal statute defining domestic terrorism but noted, "This is a definitional statute, not a charging statute," and "each of the FBI's threat categories…uses the words 'violent extremism' because the underlying ideology itself and the advocacy of such beliefs is not prohibited by US law."
It is for this reason that the U.S. still does not have a criminal domestic terrorism statute at the federal level. In a 2020 article for the Northwestern University Law Review, Francesca Laguardia noted "the lack of a generalized terrorism statute and the failure to designate right-wing organizations as 'terrorists.'" She concluded, however, that "the arguments for a domestic terrorism statute are compelling, but so are the risks of misuse."
Still, federal sentencing guidelines allow for a significant "enhanced penalty…if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism." When high-ranking members of the far-right Proud Boys were convicted for their actions during the Capitol Riot on January 6, 2021, U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly sentenced them each to more than a decade in prison.
Kelly disagreed with the government's position that the violence that day was, in the words of an assistant U.S. attorney, "no different than the act of a spectacular bombing of a building." But he nonetheless held that "the constitutional moment we were in that day is something that is so sensitive that it deserves a significant sentence."
Over the past couple of decades, the government has applied the terrorism label very broadly. In 2000, two environmental activists blew up three vehicles at a Chevrolet dealership in Eugene, Oregon. Jeffrey Luers was sentenced to more than 22 years for the crime—even though nobody was hurt and the total damage was only estimated at $28,000 ($51,006 in 2024 dollars). The Oregon Court of Appeals later overturned his sentence, and a judge reduced it to 10 years, allowing Luers to leave prison in December 2009.
"I am sorry if my actions instilled fear or the sense of victimization in the [dealership's owners]," Luers said in a statement to the judge. "That was never my intent."
We should condemn acts of violence against private property, and local authorities should investigate and prosecute the perpetrators. But the federal government has no business getting involved unless the facts very specifically warrant it. Designating individual offenders as "domestic terrorists" has no basis in federal law, and for good reason.
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But praying or writing in chalk on the pavement outside an abortion clinic or a gay bar.....
Or maybe wandering inside the US Capitol after the guards have taken down the velvet ropes and opened the doors on one side, while you are unaware what is happening on the other....
Remember this little nugget of democrat authoritarianism from my hometown last year?
https://my.spokanecity.org/police/news/2024/06/06/multiple-arrests-make-after-downtown-pride-mural-is-vandalized/
And that was for scuffing graffiti painted ON THE STREET ITSELF.
Cowardly bully Trump snipes from behind the uniquely American self serving definition of terrorism.
That by US definition “state governments” cannot be considered “terrorists”
Coined so the United States could get away with the nuclear bombing of the civilian targets Hiroshima and Nagasaki without themselves being the worst terrorists on earth.
"Cowardly bully Trump snipes"
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Unlike like those brave souls that Misek is behind. The ones that wear masks and hide at night. Hey, it's ok to wreck federal property if you have a D right?
Glad to see your two brain cells still haven't met
I do not get how intentional targeting Elon nationally is NOT terrorism.
Because it's all about the cause. Remember, Covid ignored BLM because the cause is just. Cities burning but it was fiery but peaceful.
I mean sure if you look up the word terrorism - it's exactly what is being done to Elon but that's beside the point.
terrorism
/tĕr′ə-rĭz″əm/
noun
The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.
The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.
The practise of coercing governments to accede to political demands by committing violence on civilian targets; any similar use of violence to achieve goals.
Ignorant or lying you fucking hack?
Yeah, but it's (D)ifferent when the right people do it.
When you agree with terrorism, its called "peaceful protesting". We have seen this playbook before
True terrorism involves feet on desks.
Poor BAYBEEZ... being bullied by the girls Republicans crave to bully some more with Long Dong's "gavel". Sad.
Nobody wants democrat “girls”.
Trump is getting even with them uppity selfish boycotting bitches! With every purchase of a Tesla Stretch Limo, Trump Prime subscribers will get a free South-African-American lawn jockey charging station and a ticket to the Trump Family Whoorhouse Pussy Dinette in British Columbia: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/trump-family-fortune-began-in-a-canadian-brothel-hotel/
For these acts to be terrorism, by any of those definitions, they have to instill fear in people that they will be or could be harmed. If the fear is that they will have their property damaged and suffer a loss of property? Expanding a definition of terrorism to include that would weaken the ability of the word to draw justifiable outrage when people are being threatened, harmed, or killed.
Think about how everything being racism, socialism, fascism, or whatever makes using those words appropriately lose their impact.
For a specific example that you might agree with, environmental activists that pounded spikes into trees so that lumberers might be seriously injured when their chainsaws hit those? That is justifiably referred to as "eco-terrorism". If they instead had snuck into their facilities and broken the chains so that the saws wouldn't work at all? That is a property crime, not terrorism.
Does writing letters to people threatening them if they don't get rid of their Teslas make it terrorism? Cause that's happening too.
Yes.
It’s terrorism you Marxist idiot. It was done to hurt Musk and instill fear into anyone business owners who might show support for Trump.
Case closed.
Serious question: are you retarded?
You might have a case for the vandalism of cars and charging stations but you don't think that shooting randomly into a dealership will instill fear in the people who work at that dealership? Or for any related company?
I agree that we should be very cautious about definition creep of serious words like "terrorism" - but I think in this case, you're bending over backwards to avoid it.
My property cost part of my life to acquire.
Destruction of my property is destruction of part of my life.
Most of the Tesla owners are well off liberal environmentalists who are now uncomfortable with their purchases.
"Ignorant or lying you fucking hack?"
Lying. It's what he's paid for.
The crimes committed against Tesla dealers are nothing less than domestic terrorism (as the only reason the attacks occurred is because Elon Musk is helping to implement Donald Trump's policies, which were/are strongly supported by most voters.
Why do Democrats always resort to violence and property damage to prevent the implementation of common sense policies of Republicans?
... the only reason the attacks occurred is because Elon Musk is helping to implement Donald Trump's policies, which were/are strongly supported by most voters.
Most Republican voters, maybe.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/03/12/more-than-half-of-americans-view-musk-negatively-poll/
Good job. Using a Forbes link to hide the fact that it's a CNN poll.
Your poll showing Trump at -9, at 45% approval and 54% disapproval is definitely the outlier.
Rasmussen has him at +4, at 51% approval and 47% disapproval
The Economist has him at -1, at 48%approval and 49% disapproval, and they're as orangemanbad as it gets
Emerson has him at +2, at 47% approval and 45% disapproval
Trafalgar/InsiderAdvantage has him at +5, at 50% approval and 45% disapproval
Reuters/Ipsos who just lost their USAID funding has him at -7, at 44% approval and 51% disapproval
I&I/TIPP has him at +3, at 46% approval and 43% disapproval
Daily Mail has him at +8, at 54% approval and 46% disapproval
NPR has him at -6, at 45% approval and 51% disapproval
CBS News has him at +2, at 51% approval and 49% disapproval
CNN, NPR, and Reuters, DNC party organs who have all had their USAID funding stripped, are the only ones showing big negatives. Funny that. I can't imagine why.
And I'm pretty sure the same thing applies to the grifter's Musk numbers.
Source: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
Most Americans disapprove of everyone in Trump's cabinet. Who cares?
Goddamn lying shitweasel.
Because they have no ammunition for a battle of ideas.
Why do Democrats always resort to violence and property damage to prevent the implementation of common sense policies of Republicans?
Almost every single act of actual political violence in the past decade has been blue on red.
1. Absolutely is terrorism, using the 20 century definition. See Ted Kysenski(?, unibomber). Only difference is thank god no one has been seriously injuried, yet.
2. These cases may or may not need federal involvement. I don't think the feds should have arrest powers but the FBI should help when a case that involves multiple jurisdictions and may need some of their investigative tools.
Terrorism is defined as violence in pursuit of political aims.
Anyone who thinks vandalizing a Tesla will achieve political aims is a moron.
Likewise, anyone who equates vandalizing Tesla cars with terrorism is a moron. Or a Trump defender. But I repeat myself.
See my response to Jason above, you Marxist drunk bitch.
So... we were right about Nixon and God's Own Prohibitionists way back in 1969 already. Nice to know.
This is clearly meant as an intimidation tactic, and is not mere vandalism.
Vandalizing is keying it or spray painting “fascist” on the sides, not firebombing or spray and pray at a dealership.
Donnie just pardoned about 1000 Jan 6 domestic terrorists. I guess if you’re a MAGA domestic terrorist it doesn’t matter.
He flip-flops on this just like he does tariffs.
The Democrat Floyd rioters (and they were all rioters, no protesters were involved) didn't face prison.
The Republican J6 protestors (and they were all protesters, no rioters were involved) were prosecuted.
See the difference?
The Democrat Floyd rioters did not face prison time.
The J6 rioters did.
The Democrat Floyd protestors that did not riot did not face prison time.
The J6 protestors that did not riot did face prison time.
Get the difference?
He doesn’t.
As SPB points out below, it's a lie to say no Floyd protesters faced jail.
What you and every other Trump defender denies is that there's a difference between street marches against police brutality and trying to stop the certification of the fucking election for the fucking president.
This is the definition of false equivalency.
Then again if you stopped fellating fallacies you'd have no sex life.
Do a search for BLM charges dropped.
Some of them even got paid tens of thousands for arresting them.
Does the law against rioting care where it is?
The "street protests" killed people and caused billions in damage.
Slight difference.
1/6 was ACTUALLY a mostly peaceful protest.
The Floyd riots were funded by USAID.
https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7
10,000 BLM arrests during the riots.
You won’t read it on Wingnuts.com though. AP has the real news.
10k arrests? Out of how many hundreds of thousands of violent rioters across the country. How many were actually prosecuted, and not released within hours with no charges? And how many prosecuted were undercharged?
Fuck off Kiddie Raper.
He purposefully chose a statistic for "arrests" because he knew the stats for "prosecutions" would annihilate his argument.
I’m not sure he’s smart enough to think that strategically. Especially since he has a habit of not read of his own citations.
>>AP has the real news.
dear lord no.
That’s possibly the most absurd thing about his post.
"arrests"
lol
Don't forget people who didn't go into the Capitol building or were even there got prosecuted too.
""Donnie just pardoned about 1000 Jan 6 domestic terrorists. ""
You must be lying because there wasn't that many domestic terrorism charges.
What terrorist groups did J6 belong to? What group or ideology did they target?
Don't worry, we'll make sure to hang J6 over your heads for the rest of your life. Starting with that Muslim terrorist set to be deported.
Violent MAGA extremists are the terrorist group.
And fuck that Muslim piece of shit. I would never defend a religious fundamentalist of any shitty religion. I despise all religion. Not equally of course. Islam is the most despicable followed by Xtianity.
The FBI?
It's far from the first case of terrorism inflation.
I remain unconvinced of the superiority of a mostly peaceful tyranny.
Jackass.
I'm sure there are very fine people on both sides of Tesla vandalism.
Nah. Just execute the terrorist vandals. They’re all Marxist democrats anyway.
Funny how equivocating always lines up with people's priors. I realize this makes me unwelcome in libertarian cirlces, but I want as many prisons as it takes to hold every piece of shit in the country for as long as it takes. Fuck you, BLM. Fuck you, antifa. Fuck you, neo-NAZI. Fuck you, violent J6er. Fuck you, illegals. Fuck you, gangbanger. Fuck you, eco-terrorist. And fuck you, professional Democrat agitator. Society doesn't need you.
I thought domestic terrorism was something for people who disrupt school board meetings.
Lancaster needs to go. This is peak stupidity at Reason.
Setting fires and shooting up buildings IS terrorism by any definition of terrorism.
Many Reason staffers should be on watch lists for their Marxist/Islamist advocacy. Which definitely includes Lancaster.
I know it's boomerish to type "LOL", but, at this crap, I actually did.
It's the problem with giving the executive the ability to classify things as such.
School board protestors or Tesla vandals.
Elawn Lawn Jockey bought the Don an illicshun for about the bucks he's lost as women--reenslaved by Long Dong, Palito and Mutterkreuz Mom (Appointed Court Supremacists)--abolished individual rights the LP got them in 1973. That was the year Comstock was trashbinned after robbing, jailing and killing babes for 100 years. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2024/04/15/women-tank-tesla/
Bro, we would know you are crazy without the made up words. Put some pants on and go get help.
Didn't they identify multiple right wing groups as domestic terrorists?
And that's purely based on their ideology, and we dont have evidence of them burning down cities / businesses?
I would think that the BLM/antifa riots would be enough to categorize them as domestic terrorists, and same here with the current crop (lets be honest, its the same people).
If you are burning down businesses due to your political ideology.....what would that person be if *not* a terrorist?
Choor ting menh. Imagine trying to convince a Christian National Socialist that their boy Hitler ever sent conscripts to burn down someone else's city. Hitlerites then and now are long on Faith and real short on facts...
They found PARENTS at school board meetings as domestic terrorists.
goose, gander
If I were a Tesla owner, I would cover mine in rainbow LQBTQI2MAP+ symbology, then wait for the harsh sentences to come down for vandalizing it.
Clever. I like it.
There ya go! Put a YUGE image of Bud Blight Boy on each door...
This was actually funny.
Ah yes, my city’s idiot woke mayor (who got her start teaching Soviet economic theory at Nicaragua’s state university under the Sandinista regime) and our woke majority city council. The good news is that Spokane has a long history of one ter, mayors. So this one is likely gone in a few years.
If leftist retards are attacking normal people and destroying property for political reasons, is that not terrorism now?
Let me explain something the author.
If some white guy beat me up in a drunken bar fight, that's just garden variety assault. If a white guy belongs to a hate group and assaulted 20 Asians, that is arguably a terrorist act. It's a threat against someone based on their race, religion, political affiliation, gender, etc.
If you want to stop enhanced sentencing based on hate or terrorism charge, make the argument. I might even agree. But it's ridiculous to suggest that this is some overreach of government. What these "vandals" did is no different than MAGA torching EVs to protest green tyranny. Hell, it's no different than racists torching a black church. Blowing up cars to intimidate someone over politics is the very definition of terrorism. No one should go to jail long term for hate graffiti and silly act of vandalism. We're talking about blowing up cars here. The vandals could have killed people.
Again, ridiculous. There was a mob calling for Elon's death. He's been marked for a while now. No green cards for bigots, and no mercy for terrorists who put people's lives are risks. I won't shrink back like some sheep at the government acting against real acts of evil "Well gee isn't this big government".
"If you want to stop enhanced sentencing based on hate or terrorism charge, make the argument. I might even agree."
This would have been the principled argument.
I hate to quibble but you're wrong in your definition. If a white guy belongs to a hate group and assaulted 20 Asians, that is arguably a hate crime but it is not terrorism until you add the intent to instill terror in more than just the people assaulted.
Racists torching a black church to kill just the people inside is a hate crime. Doing the same thing but with different intent - and specifically the intent to influence politics - could make it terrorism. But that intent cannot merely be assumed. It must be proven for a charge of terrorism to stick.
The legal (and most common) definition also requires the threat of violence to be against people. Blowing up stuff is a property crime but cannot alone be terrorism. And while I agree that the vandals could have killed people, "terrorism" requires that to have been their intent. Accidental killings in such a situation would be still serious crimes but not the crime of terrorism.
Words matter and overstating your case weakens it.
Salami here ought to stream Gene Hackman's "Missisippi Burning" for some terminological hairsplitting over the lilywhite intentions of faith-addled collectivist brainwashees dabbling in the initiation of deadly force. Most of the terminology was coined so the Hague could bless Teedy Rosenfeld's invaders laboring to murder entire villages of Filipinos after defining them as out-of-uniform "islamofascists and terrists." Torture was "the water cure." How's Duterte doing?
I agree. His examples were sloppy, and I agree with you in principle. However, I have a counterpoint.
We have had the left explicitly call for violence against Tesla and anyone who owns one. Explicitly because of Musk's political actions.
Political threats plus violent acts is sufficient that any claim that it isn't terrorism requires proving the negative, that these actions are unrelated to the explicit threats.
In fact, the explicit threats might be considered terrorism in and of themselves.
We have people openly telling us why they are doing this, so splitting hairs on academic examples isn't reasonable.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing that some of the anti-Tesla actions count as terrorism. Shooting into a dealership puts actual people at risk and meets even the stringent definition. But lumping in the vandalism of charging stations? That's a crime but it's not the same crime.
I'd love to get a Tesla but I'm afraid someone will light it on fire.
https://x.com/RealAngelaMc/status/1899932547749965913
This is yet another reminder that the left actually does not care about the environment, immigrants, the marginalized, etc.
Burning the Teslas and charging stations will release some very toxic fumes into the air. The victims of domestic terrorism might go back to gas powered cars. They do nothing but sabotage their green cause by terrorizing the most popular EV brand. All the angry wealthy libs can trade in their Teslas for Asian models, but most people don't have the time or money to do that.
Liberals don't think that far ahead.
Remember the 'Nuclear Option'? They don't think ahead at all.
It's weird we call them 'Progressives'.
"Indeed, prosecuting offenders for destroying private property is fully within a government's power—though in the cases cited above, local authorities are better suited to the task than the feds."
They are not simply "destroying private property", and the author knows this. This is clearly violence with political aims. Meant to intimidate.
Like these government power-wielders?
https://reason.com/2024/05/10/a-swat-team-blew-up-this-innocent-couples-home-and-left-them-with-the-bill-was-that-constitutional/
What was the political purpose of this Hank?
looks like "Trans Violence" ...it has become a problem
If someone tried to set my car on fire, I would have no problem eliminating them. Be they make, female, or an it.
It's not the dealerships. It's the threatening notes on ordinary people's cars. It's the burning and destruction of ordinary people's cars.
This is a planned terrorism campaign by the Democrats, bent on intimidating the public. Just like the Floyd riots.
They've been doing this since Tammany Hall and the Klan.
>It's far from the first case of terrorism inflation.
Yes.
We know.
'White supremacists'.
'Parents protesting at the PTA'.
These actions are clearly and explicitly done to make people afraid to support the President, or even tacitly appear like you support the president.
So violence, done for political reason, for the explicit reason of creating fear in the population so they do as you say.
That is the literal definition of terrorism.
This one got roasted on X more than most articles I've looked at. Interestingly Reason doesn't post the title, they use more neutral language, but it's not saving them.
https://x.com/reason/status/1899917532645274110
But Trump's willingness to tar the offenders as terrorists is a bridge too far.
OK MSNBC. (Now do "insurrection.")
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1899813952923574743
Let us not forget that Elon was the darling of the Left, until he wasn't. And now suddenly white liberal jihadists are specifically targeting that which is exclusively associated with him, and they do not discriminate when it comes to commercial or personal targets, in direct response to his political activity.
They are non-state actors committing acts of violence against non-state entities for political purposes. It is terrorism, a mild form, but still terrorism.
We have a political dispute and the Left resorts to violence and intimidation, these actions against Tesla owners and dealerships and earlier against pro-life oriented pregnancy centers, and the Left hides behind free speech rights of protesters.
The Right comes into a political forum, like school board meetings and has harsh criticism of Leftist government officials and this is domestic terrorism.
If it is meet and proper for, say, the Proud Boys to a proscribed organization, then why is it a problem for AntiFa?
We have a two tier system of judging these things where the Left gets indulged and the Right is beyond the pale just for being the Right.
ter·ror·ist
/ˈterərəst/
noun
noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
adjective
adjective: terrorist
unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"terrorism" = "violence committed by people I don't like"
There is a definition, whether you like it or not.
Joe, where did you come from? Huffington Post? I read your bio. You do San Fran proud!
What's a reasonable working definition of terrorism?
How about initiating violence against civilian targets for the purpose of intimidating those in the political process to accede to your political demands? I'd be surprised if this definition got much pushback as it is intentionally designed to omit normal criminality. Or protests that have gotten out of control.
By that standard, this clearly is terrorism. Musk and Tesla are clearly civilian targets. Setting fire to their property, shooting into their showrooms, etc. is pretty obviously initiating violence. It's intended to intimidate Musk to cut short his involvement with the administration or to intimidate Tesla's board or customers to put pressure on Musk to do so.
It's obviously not a free speech violation. Violence isn't speech. Otherwise, free speech becomes meaningless as the response to speech one doesn't like can be violence and still be "free speech". And political violence, particularly political violence intended to intimidate others isn't something that can be tolerated in a democratic or republican form of government. If people are making decisions based on fear of retaliation, rather than their personal judgement, you can't meaningfully say you have a democracy. Any more than you could if the leader assembled a gang of goons around the polling station telling everyone how they should vote, "if you know what's good for ya".