Brickbat: Let's See Some ID

The Colorado House of Representatives has passed a bill to raise the minimum age to buy ammunition to 21 from 18. It now moves to the state Senate, which is expected to pass it. Gov. Jared Polis is expected to sign the bill into law. The bill would require stores to stock ammunition so customers cannot access it without the help of employees. The Colorado State Shooting Association says it will challenge the bill in court if it becomes law.

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[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Polis is so dreamy and libritarian

[Fist of Etiquette]

His libertarianism was too beautiful for this world.

[Spiritus Mundi]

I'm sure Chase has a poster of Polis over his bed.

[Adans smith]

We will only let you have a gun when you sign up to go kill people.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Finally, a measure that will stop those Venezuelan gangs from taking over apartment buildings.

[Vernon Depner]

Just a FEW apartment buildings.

[mad.casual]

State expands "No porn for minors" ID check law to the internet: 1-3 articles a week for months about the impending collapse of free speech.

State raises Age/ID law for ammunition purchases from 18 to 21: Brickbat.

[Spiritus Mundi]

They are also banning most semi-auto firearms. Not a peep from the Polis fluffers at Reason.

[Brandybuck]

> The bill would require stores to stock ammunition so customers cannot access it without the help of employees.

So just like cigarettes and alcohol and porn. The last is clearly protected by the First Amendment to the same extent that bullets are protected by the Second.

[B G]

Keeping ammo out of reach of customers is about the only part of Newsom's Prop 62 which hasn't been injuncted or repealed by the Federal Courts so far. Even the mag capacity limit got declared invalid for a week at one point (which led to 10million or so new standard and high-capacity mags being sold legally in CA in 7 days).

[Will Nonya]

It seems like there is a more fundamental question. What is the national age of majority? At what age are people legally adults with full access to their rights under the constitution?

[Longtobefree]

The national age of majority varies.
For constitutional rights it is somewhere between 18 and 26.
For invented rights, like killing babies and self mutilation, it seems to be between 7 and 115.

[B G]

Wouldn't true self-mutilation be technically protected by the 9th and 10th Amendments? At least at the Federal level.

[mad.casual]

I would go even further. The question is more fundamental than that, "Why are the people who oppose children being unable to get tattoos or buy ammunition of their own volition or at the behest of their parents at 12 all the way up to, and in some cases past 21, supporting, e.g., institutional sexualization of K-3 students?"

Even the tattooed, socially-detached freakshow families don't tattoo swastikas on their children's faces, but the people chopping off kids' genitals fly flags from their homes pronouncing their support of it.

It's almost like they don't care about free markets or free speech or individual rights or public education or age of consent or families one way or the other and just want to fuck with people, destroy lives, and blame other people when the chickens inevitably come home to roost.

[Longtobefree]

. . . in the face of a recent supreme court ruling that 18 to 21 year olds have second amendment rights.
Only in Colorado; you can't make this stuff up.

Reese v. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives:
"In January 2025, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the federal ban on 18-to-20-year-olds buying handguns is unconstitutional. "
"The court also analyzed history and tradition, noting that the history of firearm use contradicts the premise that 18- to 20-year-olds are not covered by the Second Amendment."

[mad.casual]

Right. Again, on the books for at least 50 yrs. and going back over 100 yrs. and even across contemporary cultures are the popular notions that "Children can't consent." and "The more women are promoted as prostitutes, the less advantageous it is for them to contribute as equals in (e.g.) Engineering, Math, Science, Finance, home ownership, domestic partnership..." but a law that says, "Websites need to put forth the least possible effort to make sure that either children aren't accessing porn or are intelligent/aware enough to be circumventing the law to do so." is the end of The West as we know it.

But a law that makes no sense in the context of things explicitly laid out in The Constitution and contemporaneously in The Militia Act of 1792, that the courts struck down, and that Polis and the State of CO is now defying, is just a foible of mundane State over-regulation.

[Rick James]

Wait a minute, this gets a brickbat, but we'll get 12 5000 word thinkpieces a week on age verification laws for porn?

[Rick James]

Gov. Jared Polis is expected to sign the bill into law.

I thought he just wanted to leave us alone?

[Zeb]

They forgot to mention that only applies to people who don't live in Colorado.