Trump Revives Biden's Failed Proposal To Remove Palestinians From Gaza
Trump wants Arab countries to take in Gaza’s population. The Biden administration already tried, and failed, to bribe and cajole Egypt into doing so.

President Donald Trump's envoy brokered a ceasefire in Gaza and a prisoner exchange that is bringing Israeli hostages home. Now Trump is considering emptying the territory of its Palestinian population.
"I'd like Egypt to take people, and I'd like Jordan to take people. You're talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing," Trump told reporters on Sunday. "It is literally a demolition site right now, almost everything is demolished and people are dying there."
He added that Palestinians could be moved "temporarily or could be long term."
The plan to empty Gaza of Palestinians—while insisting that it's a temporary measure for their own good—is an eerie echo of former President Joe Biden's approach to the region. In the first few days of the war, the Biden administration tried to push Egypt to accept a mass exodus of Palestinians. Bringing up that possibility again, now that the bombs have stopped dropping, is seen by both Arab and Israeli figures as an attempt to restart the war.
The Egyptian government released a statement on Sunday rejecting "the transfer of uprooting of Palestinians from their land, whether in a temporary or long term way, which threatens stability and heralds the extension of the conflict." Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi also told reporters on Sunday that "Jordan is for Jordanians, and Palestine for Palestinians….Our rejection of displacement is unwavering."
It's telling that former Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir, who initially called Trump's ceasefire a "national humiliation" and resigned from the government to protest it, is now praising Trump's openness to empty Gaza.
Ben Gvir wrote on Monday that images of Palestinians returning home after the ceasefire are "another humiliating part of the reckless deal….The heroic Israel Defense Force soldiers did not fight and give their lives in the Strip to make these images possible. We must return to war—and to destruction!"
Ben Gvir's faction has long wanted to expel Palestinians to other Arab countries, even before the war that began with Hamas' October 7, 2023, attacks.
After those attacks, the Biden administration called for open "humanitarian corridors" for Palestinians to leave for Egypt's Sinai Desert, while insisting that it did not want a permanent expulsion.
"We believe that people should be able to stay in Gaza, their home," then–Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters on October 15, 2023. "But we also want to make sure that they're out of harm's way and that they're getting the assistance they need."
Blinken's suggestion may have come with a serious financial offer behind closed doors. On October 14, 2023, The Economist alluded to diplomatic discussions about paying off Egypt's debt in exchange for taking in refugees. That following day, the independent Egyptian news outlet Mada Masr reported that Egypt was "coming under pressure from western countries who are also offering economic incentives in an effort to come to a deal" over Palestinian refugees.
Although more than 100,000 refugees from Gaza have come to Egypt on an individual basis, the Egyptian government rejected the idea of evacuating hundreds of thousands of Palestinians en masse, arguing that such a plan would move the conflict onto Egyptian soil.
"Transferring the refugees, the Palestinian citizens, from the strip to Sinai would simply be transferring their resistance, the fighting, from the Gaza Strip to Sinai, turning Sinai into a launch pad for operations against Israel and making Israel within its rights to defend itself and its national security by conducting strikes on Egyptian land in retaliation," Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi warned in a speech on October 18, 2023.
Sissi suggested that if an evacuation were really necessary, Palestinians could be housed in the Negev Desert, within Israel proper. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kusher, agreed that a "secure area" in the Negev would be "a better option" than Egypt for Palestinian refugees in a March 2024 speech.
Arab fears of losing land to an evacuation were not exactly unfounded. The Israeli intelligence ministry was drawing up plans for the establishment of a "sterile zone of several kilometers" on Egyptian soil and "the construction of cities in a resettled area in northern Sinai," which were leaked to Israeli media.
Jordan is also sensitive—perhaps even more than Egypt is—about the possibility of a mass exodus. Around half the kingdom's population has Palestinian roots, due to refugees fleeing previous wars in 1948 and 1967. The latter wave led to the Black September crisis of 1970, a civil war between exiled Palestinian guerrillas and the Jordanian government.
Jordan signed its 1994 peace treaty with Israel in order to put the Palestinian issue to rest within the Palestinian territories, according to former Foreign Minister Marwan Muasher. Any mass expulsion of Palestinians by Israel will be considered "a declaration of war and constitutes a material breach of the peace treaty," then–Prime Minister Bisher Khasawneh stated in November 2023.
And Palestinians themselves are wary of being asked to leave, given that hundreds of thousands who fled the 1948 and 1967 wars were not allowed to return home.
"The idea that [Palestinians] are some kind of spillover from other countries in the so-called Arab world—that they are just interchangeable with other 'Arabs'—is a false but routinely employed rhetorical device to erase their history on the land," wrote Rep. Justin Amash, whose father was a 1948 refugee and whose cousins live in Gaza, in response to Trump's comments. "Any effort to force them out or to pressure them to leave under threat of force is simply ethnic cleansing."
Josh Paul, a former State Department official who resigned in protest of Biden's approach to Gaza, says that Trump's approach "remains an outsourcing of U.S. policy to [Israeli Prime Minister] Benjamin Netanyahu." Netanyahu's goal, Paul adds, is to empty out Gaza, whether "through killing, forced deportations, or simply making it unlivable and then creating an exit route for those who are in urgent need."
The reconstruction of Gaza will be a difficult and costly affair. The oil-rich Arab monarchies, the most likely investors in reconstruction, want to see an independent state of Palestine that is not run by Hamas. Just keeping the ceasefire in place, let alone muscling Hamas out of power and getting Israel to accept Palestinian independence, will be a heavy political lift.
But there's no good reason to expand the conflict into other countries, by threatening or bribing them at the U.S. expense. Biden has already demonstrated the folly of that path.
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The Arab nations have adamantly refused to admit the "Palestinians" into their countries for decades.
What is it the Arabs know that we don't?
Everywhere they've gone has seen a surge of terrorist acts?
Except the ones they’ve kept in “refugee camps” for generations.
That the Palestinians want to live in their own home - not to be refugees in someone else's?
80% of the people in Gaza are already refugees. But their homes are in one of the 500 or so towns that were obliterated by Israel in 1948 and 1967. Not in Egypt or Jordan.
It's not at all surprising that Israel believes that Egypt and Jordan should be cleaning up Israel's mess.
Why does Egypt hate food trucks?
OK, I like you better now. Totally on point. Looks like Trump needs to read up on the history of the region, including how dearly the Palestinians value the right of return.
Right of Return and Law of Return are the two most difficult things for the parties to reconcile in the conflict. The two that every outsider can figure out how to solve. And the two that are used to poison the conflict and stroke hatreds.
You're aware Muslims were not the original inhabitants of that region.
Jews were there long before Muslims.
Muslims just conquered the land.
Just you demand a "right of return" with only a small window of when it is relevant.
Canaanites were there before both. And genetically - living Samaritans and Palestinian Christians are the closest genetic links to Canaanite archaeology. Druze and Palestinian Muslims have a closer genetic claim than the closest living Jewish claim (Mizrahi/Iraqi Jews). IOW - people who lived in Palestine for millennia CONVERTED to whatever religions came through. They married (and passed their genes to) locals who also converted (over many many generations that adds up). See Ivanka Trump. She has no legitimate ancient claim to Israel (at a Palestinians expense) merely because she converted.
Judaism and Islam are religions. There is no 'Jew' gene. Culture can certainly be an important part of religion - but that is NOT inherited. If a rabbi (v a dog on the comment threads here) tells me 'Jews don't have to believe in God but they do have to believe that God gave a specific patch of land to Jewish atheists and their descendants' - well I won't believe him - and I actually have seriously studied the Biblical jubilee concept which is the only way the land is supposed to cross generations.
At any rate - since the issue is what should Americans be doing, I'll go with Thomas Jefferson - I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’ that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by any individual ceases to be his when himself ceases to be, and reverts to the society. God does not enter into it. Neither do the dead. The living do - which, now, means both Palestinians (but not Saudis or Jordanians) and Israeli Jews (but not Brooklyn Jews).
As recently as 1919 with the first American Commission/Investigation (the King-Crane Commission) into what the US should do re the Palestine Mandate, Americans understood the basic silliness/injustice of this argument you imply - For the initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a “right” to Palestine, based on an occupation of two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered.. Further - Zionism originated in Central/Eastern Europe - but very obviously most Jews there did not believe it either since 95% or so emigrated from there to the US and Western Europe - not Palestine. The Ashkenaz migration to Israel was mostly a migration because of a European injustice - to be 'resolved' by creating an injustice upon Palestinians.
What people are believing/spouting now is simply horseshit and propaganda. I have no interest in going along with any of that shit simply because people have effectively silenced dissent by weaponizing BS accusations of anti-semitism. And I sure as fuck ain't gonna quietly accept complicity in genocide simply because assclowns here are clapping like seals at that being done on their dime.
The palestinians are a stiff-necked, Judeocidal rabble that no one wants anything to do with. They are the canker sore of the ME.
The Gaza strip was Egyptian territory. The West Bank was Jordanian territory. The "Palestinians" were Egypt's and Jordan's countrymen. Their disposition is, in no small part, Egypt's and Jordan's mess.
So from 1948 to 1967, there was a two-state solution. Until Israel conquered the land and decided that they wanted that land not a two-state solution.
"It's not at all surprising that Israel believes that Egypt and Jordan should be cleaning up Israel's mess." The Palestinians became Egypt and Jordan's mess in 1948, when these countries encouraged them to leave their homes and trail the armies attempting to "push the Jews into the sea." Of course Israel would not accept those who intended to murder the Israelis and loot their home back - but the Arab-Muslim countries who had put their fellow Arab-Muslims in that situation also would not accept them.
And now there's several generations of so-called refugees who have been raised as psychopaths, and NO ONE can afford to let them within their borders. Depopulating Gaza and the West Bank would have been a good idea in 1949. Now, it's too late.
Isn't this a hard sell ? Last time Egypt took in Gaza refugees, Hamas infiltrated with them and went on a years long killing spree trying to overthrow the government and cause chaos. It took years to weed them out, and once gone Egypt swore 'never again'. I don't see how anyone is going to change their minds.
Same in Jordan.
It will be a useful test of POTUS Trump's ability = move the arabs in gaza elsewhere
"It is literally a demolition site right now, almost everything is demolished and people are dying there."
Trump seems to be consistent, at least with the value of human life. He said similar about Ukraine and Russia.
Worst Nazi/fascist/racist/dictator ever.
Trump seems to be consistent, at least with the value of human life.
As long as they have papers. Otherwise fuck 'em.
I sincerely hope you don't have papers.
I sincerely hope you never have children
Your children hoped that too.
'"I'd like Egypt to take people, and I'd like Jordan to take people. You're talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing," Trump told reporters on Sunday.'
Only a million and a half? We can resettle them here. And by here I mean all the college courtyards, student unions, and faculty lounges, with spill-over in Martha's Vineyard.
This is why we should take over Greenland, and ship all the Palestinians there. Plenty of open space and conditions to test one’s faith.
I have said this before. And send the drug addicted homeless there, too. And nonviolent criminals. Exile those who won't respect the rights of others.
Do you want another Australia? Because this is how you get Australia.
I'm sure we can do better than poisonous spiders and snakes though.
And Georgia too
Greenland has useful resources.
Ship them to the Vatican. The Pope LOVES refugees et al.
The Biden administration already tried, and failed, to bribe and cajole Egypt into doing so.
Weird of Egypt to turn down all those entrepreneurs and CEOs after being offered money to resettle them up front.
I guess Egypt is being altruistic here, allowing Gaza to enjoy the enrichment instead of selfishly keeping it for themselves.
Weird of American 'libertarians' to object more to Egypt turning down a shitty bribe from the US government than to object to an American president offering a shitty bribe from American taxpayers to a corrupt Egyptian government on behalf of a corrupt Israeli objective.
Egypt helped make the mess. They can help with the cleanup.
Israel made the mess. Stop playing fucking victim. Even if Hamas made a mess of Gaza, that means go to war with HAMAS - not Gazan civilians. And when you break it, you fix it. You don't just steal it.
Hamas *is* Gazan citizens. They live among them, are protected by them, and hide among them. They intentionally base in civilian buildings so Israel won't bomb them ... or will look like the bad guys if they do. They launch rockets from residential areas and intentionally tell citizens to ignore air raid warnings and stay in bomb warning zones for the same reason.
You are repeating well-worn Israeli propaganda that NEVER provides evidence. Hamas does nothing much that's useful and a lot that is evil or near-evil. But Israeli propaganda with an agenda is NOT a source of valid information. Why are Americans so fucking gullible and lazy?
Are you kidding me?
NATO Strategic Communications Center of Excellence
https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
The Biden administration already tried, and failed...
I think you might want to save that phrase as a hotkey and save yourself some typing down the road. Other than disregarding the Constitution, historians will struggle to come up with any Biden successes.
Be fair. He did use the big boy stairs a couple of times.
Why do we never hear Arabs called colonizers? Egypt and Gaza should belong to the real Egyptians, the Copts, instead of the Arab colonizers, be they Egyptians or Palestinians
We are seeing a literal genocide going on in Sudan, Arab colonizers killing the native Africans, but somehow no one cares, even though it's a real genocide and not a fake one like in Gaza
There are very few Arab colonizers. The DNA of Canaanites - long predating Arabs and ancient Israelis is most closely matched to - in order:
Samaritans
Palestinian Christians
Druze
Palestinian Muslims
Levantine Shia
Iraqi Jews (Mizrahi)
Other Levantine groups
.....
Everyone else in a 500 miles radius including Egyptians, Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Bedouin, Greeks, Turks, etc.
Sephardim
.....
Ashkenaz, Italians, Armenians, etc
At core - the people who were there in 1900 - are also the ones who have the strongest genetic claim to the land dating back thousands of years. People did not move much. Nor is there a scintilla of real evidence that people were expelled. Religions moved a bit - but mostly people converted where they lived/married. Culture is not inherited.
Which also comports with the Jeffersonian notion that the Earth belongs in usufruct to the living. The dead have neither powers nor rights over it. Now that everyone there is there of course - that doesn't justify the living eliminating the claim to the Earth by making the living dead.
Israel is just decolonizing their ancestral homeland.
"The Egyptian government released a statement on Sunday rejecting the transfer of or uprooting of Palestinians from their land" Let me guess: Trump's response will be, "Okay ... heeeeere's your tariff!" And then Egypt will be all, like, "Oooh! Not a tariff! Okay, we'll take a million Palestinians to go, please."
Seriously, some people never learn! NO ONE else wants to take on the Palestinian problem. The refugee camps become one big open sore that never goes away. The rest of the Arab world does not WANT the Palestinian "problem" to be solved. The Palestinians don't want the problem to be solved. The entire reason for their existence after two complete generations has been a never-ending struggle to destroy the Jewish state. They blame all of their self-inflicted problems on the Jews and they would cease to exist without the ebil Joos to blame.
" . . . due to refugees fleeing previous wars in 1948 and 1967"
Gee, I thought this "refugee" mess all got started in 1948 when the Arab nations refused to honor the UN resolution and take in the displaced.
And, oh by the way, Trump is a better negotiator than Biden.
(as if Biden actually did any negotiating)
Does Trump see the irony?
The deporter-in-chief just can't help himself.
Trump's new advisers are fools. They think that they can appease Hamas. Hamas' goal is simple -- murder all the Jews. it is not to build condos on the seashore. Why did Trump switch from the brilliance of the Abraham Accords to these blithering idiots
To save the Abraham accords? While Israel is actively fighting Hamas, Saudi Arabia and Oman have put discussing signing them on hold. And the UAE isn't thrilled with Israel right now. Behrain recalled their Ambassador to Israel. Arab country leaders are rightfully worried about revolution at home for being on the side of Israel instead of Arab Muslims.
So it’s been revealed for all to see.
Trump will do all he can to facilitate the creation of a greater Zionist Nazi State through his support of the genocide of the Palestinian people and all who oppose him doing so.
Aren’t we proud of our new President?
Zionist Nazi? Do your ears whistle in a high wind?
No but I’m guessing yours seriously flap and hurt your head.
About that Genocide...
The sight of Hamas out and about over the past few days should have surprised no one. After all, they’re the reason Israeli forces have been waging a painful, brutal military campaign there for the past 15 months.
Those images should have surprised no one precisely BECAUSE Israel has been 'fighting a war' against everyone BUT Hamas soldiers armed with AK47's. They were fighting from underground shelters before the ceasefire. Israel was not fighting them in some ugly painful brutal war on the ground or through tunnels. They were playing a video game war. Dropping American bombs on Gazan civilians. Supposedly 'in hopes' that buildings would fall down on Hamas soldiers in tunnels way underground. Looking at the aggregate damage, mostly as carpet bombing with enough AI 'adjusting' to make it look like targeting if you can only see trees rather than forest. While IDF soldiers spent their war posting tiktoks of themselves prancing around in women's underwear.
it is coming from those same press outlets that have spent the past 15 months of this devastating conflict erasing Hamas from the picture.
They have been erasing GAZA from their picture. To their shame because it will make the Western media fully complicit in what truths will soon emerge as to what happened there. It would have been very possible for the world's journalists to get pictures of an actual war of the IDF v Hamas. Just like every other fucking war in history. The reason that didn't happen is because the IDF prohibited journalists after their PR clusterfuck at Shifa Hospital. So instead of even embedded journalists/propagandists (as often happens with Western countries who want to prove that they are fighting a real war against an armed enemy), their goal shifted to killing journalists. Which can only have one purpose - to hide war crimes.
If you feel bad for your hamas homies, join them in gaza.
>Trump wants Arab countries to take in Gaza’s population. The Biden administration already tried, and failed, to bribe and cajole Egypt into doing so.
"Tried. And failed." is the mantra of the Biden Administration.
There's lots of stuff no one else was able to do that Trump then went and did or is doing.
You’re thinking Trump might be better at genocide than feeble minded Biden, huh?
You might be right.
You. Are. A. Retard.
Fucking useless jackasses, both you and Biden.
Gaza is a shithole, and has been for a long time. The people of Gaza should be given the choice as to stay or go elsewhere. No coercion.
Their neighbors don't want them for obvious reasons. Welcome to why freedom of movement isn't a universal right.
Ya, I know. The Palestinians have a long history of destabilizing every country they are in. How many civil wars have they started?
Well they don't have a history of destabilizing the 22% of now-Israeli Arabs who weren't Naqba'd. Mostly in Galilee because a)those were originally slated to be part of the Arab side of Palestine so they were last on the list and b)because Naqba'ing Nazareth would have proven to be a real problem with American Christians.
So maybe the issue has to do with what happened to them in 1947-8. Not some genetic predisposition.
The Arabs, mind you, rejected the entire deal in the first place.
Fuck the lot of those Jordanians --- sorry, "Palestinians".
You're an idiot who understands nothing. You're a useful idiot precisely because you understand nothing, don't care to understand anything, but will repeat whatever shit someone sticks in your mouth to utter.
The Arabs did reject partition. Had they accepted it they (group we now call Palestinians) would have their own state on more land. Then after 1948 they did not make efforts to establish a state on the land they did have.
No. They would still have nothing. The purpose of David Ben Gurion in 'accepting' the 'partition' (which was bogus to begin with and designed to be rejected) was to prepare for war after the British evacuation.
a)To identify the specific places/villages on a map where Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi would begin to obliterate villages and ethnic cleanse.
b)To identify the specific ports that would be entirely evacuated by the Brits by Feb 1948 (months before both independence and the 1948 war began) so that 'a substantial immigration' could occur
Without a map that will become "Israel' - and one that is 'assigned' Arab - where do you set priorities for obliteration and expulsion? Without a mass immigration where do you get a rapid military build up when you are outnumbered? And WTF kind of idiot would accept a 'peace plan' when the entire purpose was to get the Brits out rather than to have them hang around thinking things are peaceful now.
Mandatory conscription started ten days BEFORE the partition resolution. In preparation for making sure the new immigrants could immediately step off the ships into military training. Some of the basic requirements for expulsion and ethnic cleansing - identifying village elders for execution, etc - had been done in conjunction with the Brits in the 1930's. Some relating to cultural takeover (turning place names into Hebrew words to associate them with Biblical stuff) had been done in the 1920's with the development of secular Hebrew.
Plan A was produced in Feb 1945. Plan B in 1946 when it was adjusted to include likely UN involvement. Plan C in late 1947 as a tweak. Plan D was what became the full fledged Naqba - four weeks after the militarized immigration and a couple months before independence and the 1948 war.
Zionists have NEVER accepted any territorial lines drawn by some UN. They got their territory lands granted by God, fought for in blood by Joshua ben Nun, delineated by Abraham (from the river to the river), and the Christians among them think that this all leads to Jesus' return. Seriously - the UN?
They were given a choice to stay there. How do you think Gaza got there. But they chose to elect Hamas as their leadership and Hamas chose to do what they did on October 7th.
I have a lot of sympathy for the minority of palestinians who didn't choose Hamas and want nothing to do with terrorism. If someone finds a way to pick those people out of the greater whole, maybe those people can have Gaza and the rest of them can go... somewhere else (e.g. hell).
Yeah, I don't think that this proposal is going anywhere. It's too lucrative for the other Arab and Muslim states to have the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank to maintain some Arab claims to the land, and it's far too dangerous to bring them into the neighboring countries. (for the neighboring countries in question)
Trump wants Arab countries to take in Gaza’s population. The Biden administration already tried, and failed, to bribe and cajole Egypt into doing so.
The interesting story is not why Biden OR Trump wants this to happen, but why the surrounding Arab countries refused to do so and maintain their border walls between themselves and Gaza.
Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi also told reporters on Sunday that "Jordan is for Jordanians,
Ouch...ies... OUCH... IES.
Egypt, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon have thrown those terrorists out once. What makes anyone think they want a second go around with them? Biden was hell bent on importing them here until Trump got in the way. No one wants them so how about Siberia and build a wall around the entire place so they can just kill each other off.
What a waste of a conversation and resources. What have so called "Palestinians" ever contributed to the world as a whole, besides sadistic terrorism? Olive oil can be grown and produced lots of places. There are glaring reasons why Arab nations won't take them or even help them. They are a collective stain on humanity, and the entire region knows it. Iran simply uses them for their own evil devices.
You keep saying "Palestinians" like that's a thing. Why?
You know what would be refreshing? For the Israelis to come out and say, hey, we conquered you. Be happy we didn't massacre you. Every other gd country on the planet was conquered, why are you singling us out? At least that would be honest.
You know what would be refreshing? For the Israelis to just massacre them.
But somehow they're the bad guys in it all for showing restraint, tolerance, and forgiveness.
Hell, they asked Arabs to not leave Israel in 48.
The Arab states TOLD the Jordanians to leave.
They left by choice.
They made a poor one. One of the near infinite ones they have made over time.
A better, more humane alternative: Incentivized, voluntary emigration.
That is a considerably better deal the Jews got back in 1948 when they were expelled from their home countries to Israel, under threat of death, with their money and holdings stolen.
No give backs.
- Egypt
Yemen has room.