West Virginia Voters Passed a Constitutional Amendment Prohibiting Assisted Suicide
But the amendment won't prevent the state from killing you.

West Virginians narrowly approved a ballot question to constitutionally prohibit people from seeking medical help in ending their own lives—while preserving the state's power to kill convicted criminals.
The race was not called until more than a week after Election Day, with 50.4 percent of the vote in favor of the constitutional amendment, which bans "the practice of medically assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing of a person."
The ban applies to both the individual seeking to die and any physician or healthcare providers who assist the effort. It does not prohibit palliative care or the medications that might be distributed to ease pain and suffering—for example, doses of morphine delivered during hospice care. The ballot initiative does, explicitly, preserve the state's power to use capital punishment.
In both cases, the amendment might be unnecessary. Assisted suicide is already illegal in West Virginia, and the death penalty was banned in the 1960s. Still, if you're going to elevate one of those bans into the state constitution, why explicitly exempt the other?
The main outcome of the election is to bind future West Virginia lawmakers' hands. With the newly approved constitutional amendment in place, state lawmakers will not be allowed to legalize physician-assisted suicide without first passing another constitutional amendment.
Physician-assisted suicide was already illegal in West Virginia, but the constitutional amendment put on the ballot there was a response to legalization efforts in other states. Oregon was the first state to legalize assisted suicide in 1997, and it is now legal in eight other states and Washington, D.C., via a combination of legislation and ballot initiatives. This was the first time voters had been asked whether to ban physician-assisted suicide, rather than being asked to legalize it.
The ballot question was by far the most competitive statewide race in deep-red West Virginia. President-elect Donald Trump carried the state by 42 points, and Jim Justice, the Republican candidate for Senate, won by 41 points in the race to replace retiring Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.). Republicans also won the state's gubernatorial race, both congressional races, and supermajorities in the state House and state Senate.
That suggests that the physician-assisted suicide question cut across partisan lines for at least some voters—even though the West Virginia Republican Party officially endorsed a "yes" vote on the issue.
Opponents of the ballot question said a constitutional prohibition on assisted suicide was unnecessary and an attack on the rights of West Virginians to die with dignity.
The West Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) highlighted the contradiction of a supposedly pro-life amendment including a special carve-out to protect the death penalty. "Constitutions exist to safeguard individual freedoms from government overreach," the group said in a statement about the ballot initiative. "This amendment does the exact opposite."
Unlike other hot-button culture war issues, the right to decide when to end one's life has not (yet) been consumed by partisan politics. In a different state, or even in a different election in West Virginia (given how close the results were), the outcome may be different.
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Sarco Pod might need to use a Sarco Pod, but just not in WV.
Sex offenders can only find dignity in death.
What are they supposed to do now?
Getting repeatedly raped is prison is a viable option.
Great point! I could ask this on Quora.
Legal assisted suicide is the sort of thing so ripe for the grossest of abuses, if you are desperate to have it, you need to make sure it is in the most limited of circumstances.
Otherwise it eventually becomes a license to murder the depressed.
Look at Canada where they permit it for virtually any reason whatsoever.
Especially if government is involved with paying for medical care. Suicide then becomes a cost saving measure.
They will also eventually start talking people with down syndrome into agreeing to die.
Not just permit, encourage.
Is DYI still ok?
The DIY Store had rope in aisle 5. Prospective suiciders like to hang out there.
Maybe IKEA can introduce a low price assemble at home self operated gallows? You can pay extra for assisted assembly. I recommend the name IKEA Träd. Rope not included.
It will be missing a critical piece and then collapse with your weight.
If you DIY you'll be sentenced to death.
West Virginians narrowly approved a ballot question to constitutionally prohibit people from seeking medical help in ending their own lives—while preserving the state's power to kill convicted criminals.
What does one have to do with the other? They're completely - and I mean entirely - separate issues that share no crossover whatsoever.
They are separate for now.
I fully believe it is your right to kill yourself. I would like for there to be a less messy way for someone to make that decision.
I don't trust the government or mental health professionals. We see the results in Canada. They are pushing people to kill themselves.
If you are really determined to minimize the mess, there are already ways to let people know to come get your corpse that won't be fast enough to save you. The preposterous idea that killing people needs to be a whole medicalized thing is driven 100% by people who stand to profit from killing people on the government's dime.
Murderers get killed because they are trash that needs to be disposed of.
The only thing that this does is prevent someone else from helping you.
You can still eat a bullet, or buy a mask, hose, and a bottle of helium. I'm sure Amazon will deliver that right to your door, within 5 working days, even if you order all that at once.
I fully believe it is your right to kill yourself.
Yea, but we're not talking about the right to kill yourself. We're talking about the right to medical assistance in killing yourself. You want to kill yourself, go for it - I'd like the chance to talk you out of it but, if I can't, then at the very least you should have to go it on your own.
No doctor, let alone a politician, should be in the business of intentionally taking the lives of their citizens. And any that is has no business in either profession.
Boehm's logic is childishly simplistic seeing that some one is causing another person's death is superficially similar.
Moral relativism is the idea that a man shoving old ladies in front of a bus and a man shoving old ladies out of the way of a bus are morally equivalent because both push around the elderly.
Retards like to pretend that people who are pro-life are pacifists on crime. They cannot fathom that inhabiting a womb isn't a crime, unlike actual heinous crimes that merit the death penalty.
+1
I’m also confused as to why I or libertarians give the least bit of shit about any of it.
Killing someone who wants to die is still kind of a murder. Even if the "victim" asked for it, aggression was *arguably* initiated. It’s not unreasonable for one of our 50 states to find and treat it as murder. Don’t like it? Suicide the next state over. When we get to 25, 35, or 45 out of the 50 states declaring it illegal, then call me. There are plenty of completely harmless acts that are no-shit enshrined in The Constitution with “Shall not be infringed” that don’t enjoy *that* level of freedom.
But yeah, Boehm's inclusion of state executions is a vacuous virtue signal that actually reveals the preference that he doesn't give a shit about libertarianism or individual liberty or agency and wants his readers to be actively-stupified puppets. Otherwise, as you indicate, there would be no confusion between (e.g.) state executions, self defense, and assisted suicide for anyone roughly above the age of ~7 and certainly above the age of ~14.
There's one crossover in that the government has an interest in both. In the case of the death penalty, that interest is entirely from a judicial punishment perspective. In the case of assisted suicide, that interest is monetary since the majority of those who want it have medical conditions which the state assists with or are over the age where they can collect various government benefits aimed at old people. Thus, every person who can be convinced to remove themselves or is incapacitated enough that records can be fudged to make it seem like they want to remove themselves is one less person trying to get money from the government programs in question.
Oh, no!
The masses should never be allowed to vote.
They are not enlightened as our obvious better ruling us.
Only the ruling elites should make decisions regarding the health, wealth and welfare of the peasantry otherwise freedom and all its cancerous ideas will flourish and destroy any proletariat paradise.
If this ugly concept of allowing the great unwashed to vote for public policy continues, the world will end in an a very ugly manner.
You've been warned.
Eric, if you are reading this please listen to Tim Pool's short rant on the amendment. He voted in WV. He did not know the amendment was on the ballot before he went to vote. The question at the ballot was phrased horribly. (He did not know whether a yes or no vote was for the ban or not). And there was no way to read the actual text of the amendment while voting.
I have no problem with people offing themselves. I have much more problem with fraud and dereliction of duty.
The libertarian solution to Assisted Suicide is to ensure that an assistant is held accountable as an accomplice in cases where fraud and dereliction of obligations occurs.
Many people who kill themselves are escaping debts and obligations to others- including the law, family or business associates. If you help a person suicide and it can be determined that they had such binding obligations, then yeah you should be held accountable as an accomplice just as if you had helped them escape out of country.
The elderly who have fulfilled their obligations to family and friends, filled debts, or otherwise "settled all accounts" should be allowed to do what they wish, and seek help in doing so.
That said, the opposite is true. We need clear ethical and moral standards that present the opposite- government or private concerns foisting an "obligation to die" on especially the elderly and less capable.
Look, don't be hyperbolic. It's not like bodies are being removed from Swiss suicide pods with strangulation marks on their necks.
"Strangulation mark science is junk science." - Reason
This is bullshit. Preventing suicide because the person may have outstanding debts is beyond bullshit.
If it makes you feel better, think of suicide as the ultimate form of "declaring bankruptcy".
How illogical. You have no problem with... ---Who gives a sht what you have no problem with !!!! That dumb statement : "[Those who have ] “settled all accounts” should be allowed to do what they wish"
Yet if you can't express yourself or are not in your full faculties, people like you will say "She settle her accounts, she MUST be put to death"
Think of this when you reach the nursing home and somebody like you shows up to send you 'on your way"
When you make it legal for a physician to "assist " in ending the life of another, you will soon get the scope sliding into the physician taking it upon themselves to decide for the patient whether their life is worth living?
Also, a logical question if suicide is a legal option, why all the angst over peventing people who have conditions making them especially prone to suicide?
>>The ban applies to both the individual seeking to die and any physician or healthcare providers who assist the effort.
what if I watch a buddy do himself in?
You'll be sent to prison if you offer moral support. Maybe they'll offer clemency if you scream at him or her the whole time.
"I was ... begging her to stop."
West Virginians narrowly approved a ballot question to constitutionally prohibit people from seeking medical help in ending their own lives—while preserving the state's power to kill convicted criminals.
That's ok. In Europe, the state refuses to kill a terrorist who slaughtered a bunch people at an airport but happily kills one of the surviving victims.
So it's all swings and roundabouts.
Sad and fked up. I also don’t really believe everything about that woman is being disclosed.
As a Canadian who lives under the oppressive threat of MAID, good for them.
The thought people dying in unbearable agony from things like bone cancer have always bothered me, and I thought that with their permission letting doctors to give them a little too much morphine or something was a great idea.
But as with everything, give the government an inch and they will take a mile. I don’t need to tell you guys all the horror stories we have here now. It is now the second leading cause of death, and the stories of seniors going in with a broken hip and not coming out are terrifying.
The wonders of socialized medicine.
Exactly. I have no problem with someone of sound mind choosing a clean, legal, and relatively painless death. I don't trust the system to not guide people into the decision.
Depressed Kamala voters really have no other choice than this.
Well. Actually. This is a good choice. All of your anxiety will just go away. No more tears. You will never hear the name Trump mentioned ever again.
If morphine was simply over the counter and the insert listed the side effects at different doses, then it is a simple matter for the individual to make their own choices.
The only exception would be people too disabled to do it themselves. None of the people I see in these right to die videos look like they couldn't manage it themselves. Are these people just looking for some last validation? "You are a good person for letting us kill you."
"Suicide by cop" seems a bit problematic now.
Yeah, sure. If it were law in New York, I'm sure we'd have the Federal Agents in charge of watching Epstein up on charges by now.
>But the amendment won't prevent the state from killing you.
Yeah. Because they saw what Canada was doing.
As much as you (and I) hate capital punishment, its usage is severely limited to those who have at least been through the CJS meatgrinder. Yes, there are a fuck-ton of problems there. From lying cops to prosecutors deliberately withholding exculpatory evidence to shitty juries.
But at least its not something that a single-doctor can get the authority to do. Its not something that you can make policy and have it as standard practice to push MAID onto everyone.
Like they're doing in Canada. Its ironic - Canadians have said they're not cool with the state executing convicted criminals, but they're totally cool with the state executing old people, depressed people, people with disabilities, etc.
>The West Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) highlighted the contradiction of a supposedly pro-life amendment including a special carve-out to protect the death penalty. "Constitutions exist to safeguard individual freedoms from government overreach," the group said in a statement about the ballot initiative. "This amendment does the exact opposite."
This just goes to show how crazy the ACLU has become.
This is explicitly to protect individual freedoms from government overreach. That it doesn't go far enough (eliminating death penalty for crimes) doesn't change that.
"the death penalty was banned in the 1960s"
As in most civilized places. Judicial murder is still murder.
I am sure that WV folk are caring people that will want to keep their loved one suffering as long as possible.
Moderation, you never heard of Terri Schiavo -- and the horror it was for her family.
CHIEF JUSTICE WATIE
" Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices. Suppose one believed that human sacrifices were a necessary part of religious worship, would it be seriously contended that the civil government under which he lived could not interfere to prevent a sacrifice? Or if a wife religiously believed it was her duty to burn herself upon the funeral pile of her dead husband, would it be beyond the power of the civil government to prevent her carrying her belief into practice?"